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Water Brash

sqwakvfr Community Member February 09, 2008
  • Here is my story in a short summary.

     

    Endoscopy in Oct 2007.  Positive for H. Pylori and treated with Aicphex and two antibiotics in Nov 07.  Also diagnosed with Mild Gastritis.  H. Pylori neg in Jan 08. 

    Suffering from Water Brash(excess salivation) since Nov 10, 2007.  The GI said he does not know why I am suffering from this. 

    So far I have  been to two ENT's.  The second ENT did a videostroboscopy on my mouth and throat.  He feels I am suffering from acid reflux which is probably causing the water brash.  I finally got another appointment with the same GI.  This time I am going with some more information about water brash.  I have tried Prilosec and Prevacid(both did not help me).  I am taking Aciphex and Zantac this time to treat for the Water Brash(so far they appear to not be working).  I have also done the GERD lifestyle measures(smaller meals and elevating my head while I sleep).  I am at the end of my rope about this water brash problem. I am unable to work because I have to constantly spit out this frothy white saliva out of my mouth all day and night.  Can anyone recommended something else I can do to get relief for this problem.

     

    Thank you

15 Comments
  • Anonymous
    anu
    Aug. 27, 2013

    hello every one

    Its been 6-7 months ive  been having this problem of exess saliva...in the begining it was very bad ,i had to spit it out every min.. but now  i have to keep sawllowing

    I went to may doctors ,as i have allergic rihintis also  i checked with my allergy specialist he said,it an be some food alergy and i have been put on allergy...

    RHMLucky777

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    hello every one

    Its been 6-7 months ive  been having this problem of exess saliva...in the begining it was very bad ,i had to spit it out every min.. but now  i have to keep sawllowing

    I went to may doctors ,as i have allergic rihintis also  i checked with my allergy specialist he said,it an be some food alergy and i have been put on allergy medicine but its not helping...I dont get acid refulx...and I dont think its acid comming from my oesophagus...but its saliva getting produced in my mouth...

    I can see most of your post are from few year back and I belive  you all have got through this phase...so please and please help me...and tell me how did you come through this.... I will be very grateful to you all... God bless you alll  

     

  • Anonymous
    Elaine
    Aug. 04, 2011

    Hello, I too, suffered from water brash. I had two edoscopies done which showed severe inflamasion of the esophagus. I was put on aciphex and was told I would be on it the rest of my life. I went to  see a homiopathic Dr. and she prescribed aloe vera juice for healing and I also went to a chiropractor who is a certified neurlogist. He did laser treatments...

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    Hello, I too, suffered from water brash. I had two edoscopies done which showed severe inflamasion of the esophagus. I was put on aciphex and was told I would be on it the rest of my life. I went to  see a homiopathic Dr. and she prescribed aloe vera juice for healing and I also went to a chiropractor who is a certified neurlogist. He did laser treatments on my esophagus 2 times a week for 2 months. By this time I was doing and feeling better. I have since learned that taking a small spoonful of applecider vinegar in 3 ounces of water before going to bed has a better effect than anything else. No more aciphex and no more problems . I hope I have helped someone in their problem.

  • Beth13
    Mar. 30, 2010

    I empathize with your problem, which I experienced as well and had to stop working and it is unnerving and unpleasant to deal with. I found that in time, it lessened, but it took a few months. I am now on 80 mg daily of Prilosec (my 2nd month) and the waterbrash has almost completely disappeared except some days I get a little but it is swallowable. You have...

    RHMLucky777

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    I empathize with your problem, which I experienced as well and had to stop working and it is unnerving and unpleasant to deal with. I found that in time, it lessened, but it took a few months. I am now on 80 mg daily of Prilosec (my 2nd month) and the waterbrash has almost completely disappeared except some days I get a little but it is swallowable. You have to give the Proton pump inhibitor time to work and 20 mg of Prilosec will do nothing. I also believe this condition is very stress related because I went on Zoloft 100 mg and take Atavan 1mg daily which seems to have helped reduce stress which has reduced the waterbrash. I wish I could tell you it's easy to deal with, but it sounds like you have lpr reflux and it is not an easy condition, takes time and alot of unpleasant annoying suffering.

     

     

     

     

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Nov. 04, 2009

    Dont know if you are still checking.......

     

    I have developed this symptom myself, however, for me its just at the annoying stage, and even then mostly in the evenings. 

     

    I have read documentation that in severe cases, a dose of Atropine can be used to lessen the flood.  This is similar to the Atropine used in general anesthetic to decrease...

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    Dont know if you are still checking.......

     

    I have developed this symptom myself, however, for me its just at the annoying stage, and even then mostly in the evenings. 

     

    I have read documentation that in severe cases, a dose of Atropine can be used to lessen the flood.  This is similar to the Atropine used in general anesthetic to decrease secretions.  No, it wont cure you.  But, it could improve qualilty of life. Worth considering?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Sep. 21, 2009

    I have this trouble and use 40mg of nexium a day . Takes care of the problem.Ask your doctor for a prescription. I know what you are going through.     B.

    • unknown
      Sep. 02, 2010

      I have been having this very same problem for about a month. My mouth would produce so much saliva that I had to keep a trash can by my bed to spit. My throat hurts and my Voice Box feels closed. I just went to an ENT doctor yesterday. He presribed me 60mg DEXILANT or NEXIUM. He gave me some free samples of Dexliant, and it has worked so far. I am...

      RHMLucky777

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      I have been having this very same problem for about a month. My mouth would produce so much saliva that I had to keep a trash can by my bed to spit. My throat hurts and my Voice Box feels closed. I just went to an ENT doctor yesterday. He presribed me 60mg DEXILANT or NEXIUM. He gave me some free samples of Dexliant, and it has worked so far. I am only a couple of days in, but it has made a huge diffence in one day. My throat feels better and I didn't get the "spits" last night. If you have these same sypmtoms, I highly reccomend that you talk to your Dr. about theses presriptions.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Mar. 15, 2008
    Ask your doctor to evaluate you for a condition called eosinophilic esophagitis, which has overlaping symptoms with GERD.
  • sqwakvfr
    Feb. 24, 2008

    It appears the treatment for Water Brash symptoms is not working.  I took 40 mg of Aciphex for one week and I developed some serious side-effects(muscle aches, muscle twitches, and headaches).  I called my GI and he switched me to 40 mg of Protonix twice a day.  I have been on Protonix for 6 days and at times the water brash symptoms are worse. ...

    RHMLucky777

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    It appears the treatment for Water Brash symptoms is not working.  I took 40 mg of Aciphex for one week and I developed some serious side-effects(muscle aches, muscle twitches, and headaches).  I called my GI and he switched me to 40 mg of Protonix twice a day.  I have been on Protonix for 6 days and at times the water brash symptoms are worse. 

     

    I usually sleep about 2 to 3 hours a night(I have to get up and clear my mouth and throat of the frothy saliva).  I don't know what to do next.

    I can't believe this is still happening. I don't have heartburn but if I do not spit out the saliva I feel a lump in my throat.  The quantity of the saliva is great that I would have to constantly swallow it.

     

    In Oct 2007, I was diagnosed with mild gastritis and was successfully treated for H. Pylori infection.  Since Nov 9, 2007 my life has been a nightmare. I can't go anywhere because my mouth is constantly fills up with saliva. 

     

    At this point the only complaint I have is Water Brash.  Can anyone offer some advice as to what else I can do?  My GI is less than cooperative.  My next appointment with the GI is in late March 08.

     

    Could I be suffering from Bile Reflux along with acid reflux?

     

    • Vicki M
      Feb. 26, 2008

      Hi sqwakvfr,

       

      I did not find alot of information about water brash and it's not listed as a result of bile reflux, but here is a posting that talks about bile reflux and has some good information.

       

      You can read the posting here.  Hope this helps!

      Stay in touch and let us know how you are doing!

      Vicki M

    • Anonymous
      unknown
      May. 22, 2009

      I have the same thing.  It started to happen after taking PPI's.  I recommend you get off of them.   Yes, they reduce acid, but the relax your lower esophageal sphincter muscle, causing stomach contents to wash up.  You might get acid rebound, just stick with it.  Also, I've just started to try apple cider vinegar.  Believe...

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      I have the same thing.  It started to happen after taking PPI's.  I recommend you get off of them.   Yes, they reduce acid, but the relax your lower esophageal sphincter muscle, causing stomach contents to wash up.  You might get acid rebound, just stick with it.  Also, I've just started to try apple cider vinegar.  Believe it or not, acid stimulates the LES to close at the right time.  It's unfortunate that GI doctors don't know or don't tell you those side effects.  They just recommend that you take a double dose.  I'm a nurse by the way, and I'm very upset that I had to learn the hard way.

  • sqwakvfr
    Feb. 11, 2008

    Saw the GI today.  This is what he told me.  Apparently the H. Pylori bacteria thrives in an acid enviornment(stomach).  After H. Pylori is eradicated the stomach is behind and still is pumping out the acid to feed the H. Pylori.  As a defense mechanism your body will produce extra saliva or even mucous.  This makes sense to me. ...

    RHMLucky777

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    Saw the GI today.  This is what he told me.  Apparently the H. Pylori bacteria thrives in an acid enviornment(stomach).  After H. Pylori is eradicated the stomach is behind and still is pumping out the acid to feed the H. Pylori.  As a defense mechanism your body will produce extra saliva or even mucous.  This makes sense to me.  The GI told me to take Acihpex twice a day (40mg) for the next 4 to 6 weeks.  So far I have been taking Aciphex once a day and the amonut excess saliva has decreased slightly.  The GI also told I can take Zantac as needed during the day.  M

     

    My problem with Water Brash started on the third day of H. Pylori treatment.  I believe this bacteria in my stomach was eradicated very rapidly.  So far I haven't had any other GERD symptoms except for the Water Brash. 

     

    The thing I learned from this experience is:  Even after completing the treatment for H. Pylori one needs to take acid reducing medication for at least another month.  I stopped taking Aciphex as soon as I took my last antibiotic.  Apparently this was a big mistake on my part.

     

     

    • Vicki M
      Feb. 13, 2008

      Hi sqwakvfr,

       

      That is good news! (That the GI knows what is going on and you have a plan to cure it) I found very little information about the cause of water brash, only that it exists and is essentially over production of saliva.


      I never knew I had H Pylori either till the doctor did a test for it. I don't have bouts with acid reflux unless I do something...

      RHMLucky777

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      Hi sqwakvfr,

       

      That is good news! (That the GI knows what is going on and you have a plan to cure it) I found very little information about the cause of water brash, only that it exists and is essentially over production of saliva.


      I never knew I had H Pylori either till the doctor did a test for it. I don't have bouts with acid reflux unless I do something to cause it (mexican, thai, tons of diet soda, all the usual suspects)  During a routine physical, my doctor tested for H Pylori. However, the treatment for the H Pylori resulted in my having an adverse reaction to the antibiotics. An overload of antibiotics. 

       

      Well now that you have a plan, please stay in touch and let us know how it's going. If it works for you, there may be someone else who has a similar situation and they can speak to their doctor about it using your experience as information.


      Take care, be well!

      Vicki M

       

       

    • Anonymous
      misemile
      Jun. 28, 2009

      I found this comment very useful!  I was recently diagnosed by my doctor of having h polori.  I went on antibiotics for about 2 weeks.  Afterwards however, i noticed my neck would feel stiff and i feel like there is something i cannot swallow.  I am also experiencing heartburn more frequently.  Perhaps this is because i did not take...

      RHMLucky777

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      I found this comment very useful!  I was recently diagnosed by my doctor of having h polori.  I went on antibiotics for about 2 weeks.  Afterwards however, i noticed my neck would feel stiff and i feel like there is something i cannot swallow.  I am also experiencing heartburn more frequently.  Perhaps this is because i did not take the proton pump inhibitors after i finished using the antibiotics, such as you suggested.  I only took the acid relieving medicine during the treatment.  I definitely will get a refill of my prescrpiption and see if this helps.  Thank you! And I can not tell you how much I think this will help me!

  • Vicki M
    Feb. 11, 2008

    Hi Sqwakvfr,

     

    This is really an unusual situation. I haven't found alot of information about "water brash" at all and sent your question over to the experts for an answer, but here is what I did find. Certainly your doctor knows best and you should always defer to what he says, but here is some information that I found that might help a little. ...

    RHMLucky777

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    Hi Sqwakvfr,

     

    This is really an unusual situation. I haven't found alot of information about "water brash" at all and sent your question over to the experts for an answer, but here is what I did find. Certainly your doctor knows best and you should always defer to what he says, but here is some information that I found that might help a little. 


    While the water brash is a great inconvenience, it apparently is not a bad thing for someone who may have acid reflux. According to this article, smoking reduces saliva causing GERD. So saliva production is good for keeping acid reflux at bay. I am not finding any information about what the causes of water brash are. Excessive salivation, and drooling are a possible symptom of GERD in babies.  

     

    There are also other considerations for the drooling (the only search term I could find for excessive salivation) and some of them are kinda scary! Here is a posting about drooling that says excessive drooling could be a symptom of poisoning or reaction to venom from snakes or insect bites. Have you looked into the insect bite possibility? (I would think you would know if you had been snake bit! :) )

     

    Hope things go well for you. Stay in touch and let us know how you're doing!

    Vicki M

     

     

     

     

  • Vicki M
    Feb. 11, 2008

    Hi Sqwakvfr,

     

    This is really an unusual situation. I haven't found alot of information about "water brash" at all and sent your question over to the experts for an answer, but here is what I did find. Certainly your doctor knows best and you should always defer to what he says, but here is some information that I found that might help a little. ...

    RHMLucky777

    Read More

    Hi Sqwakvfr,

     

    This is really an unusual situation. I haven't found alot of information about "water brash" at all and sent your question over to the experts for an answer, but here is what I did find. Certainly your doctor knows best and you should always defer to what he says, but here is some information that I found that might help a little. 


    While the water brash is a great inconvenience, it apparently is not a bad thing for someone who may have acid reflux. According to this article, smoking reduces saliva causing GERD. So saliva production is good for keeping acid reflux at bay. I am not finding any information about what the causes of water brash are. Excessive salivation, and drooling are a possible symptom of GERD in babies.  

     

    There are also other considerations for the drooling (the only search term I could find for excessive salivation) and some of them are kinda scary! Here is a posting about drooling that says excessive drooling could be a symptom of poisoning or reaction to venom from snakes or insect bites. Have you looked into the insect bite possibility? (I would think you would know if you had been snake bit! :) )

     

    Hope things go well for you. Stay in touch and let us know how you're doing!

    Vicki M