I am at the end of my rope

Thanks for the information.  The water brash appears  almost like a white, frothy saliva.  It has small bubbles but is odorless.  When I spit it on  my hand it will dissolve into a clear saliva.  My throat at times feels hoarse but I do not have a burning sensation in my throat. At times I do have a slight burning sensation in my esophagus.  But this is rare and very minor.  It does not feel like the buring sensation I used to have before the H. Pylori Treatment.  This all started while I was taking Aciphex and two anti-bitoics back in November.  What I eat and how much I eat does not effect the water brash symptoms. I did an experiment and drank some coffee and had some wine with dinner.  There  was no change in my symptoms.

I have been taking 80 mg of Nexim for the past 3 days.  My symptoms have not improved and lately the symptoms seem to get worse about 30 minutes after I take the Nexium.

Thanks

Vicky, thanks for your concern.  No real improvement in my symptoms.  I have been taking a PPI for the last 6 weeks(Aciphex, Protonix and now Nexium).  So far the only good news is Nexium seems to give me the least amount of side effects.  I've got about another week and a half supply of Nexium left.  I see my Gastro in two weeks.  I don't know what comes next. 

So far chaning my diet, the amount I eat and the frequency of eating seems to have no effect on my symptoms. I've tried coffee and then stopped without a change in my symptoms.  I've also tried a glass of wine with dinner but my symptoms did not get any worse. 

Even though my H. Pylori breath test came back negative I suspect I could still have this bacteria.  I'm afraid I might need another Endoscopy(I just had one in Oct 07).

Once again thank you for your concern and thoughts.

Yong Park

Chuck, thanks for your thougths and prayer.  I've tried a brief experiment with food(eliminating some and then reintroducing them back into my diet). So far no luck on that end.  It looks like my problem is GI related. 

I'll keep working on it and hopefully it will be resolved soon. I haven't been able to work since this problem started.   I pretty much stay home most of the time. 

Thanks,

Yong Park

Hi Barbara, I've been to the GI twice and I really don't think he knows what I have.  I have classic symptoms of Water Brash.  The GI did not say I had a hiatal hernia or even Acid Reflux. On my visit in Feb 08, the GI said I was very acidic because the H. Pylori had been eradicated and my stomach was still producing a lot of acid to feed the H. Pylori.  Apparently H. Plyori thrives in a high acid enviornment.

In the last 8 weeks I have been on Prilosec, Aciphex, Protonix, Nexium and finally Zegerid.  These drugs did little to improve on my water brash.  Aciphex gave me horrible side effects and Protonix seemed to make the water brash even worse. 

This monday I went back to the GI.  He gave me a presecription for a drug called "Hyoscyamine".  This drug is a anti-spasmatic which is suppose to decrease my salive output.  But the listed side effects of this drug are very scary.  Apparently this drug affect the central nervous system.  Therefore, I am taking this new drug very carefully.  The GI prescribed the lowest dosasge available (0.125mg).  I am taking it twice a day(before dinner and before sleeping).  I have been on it for a day and half.  This new drug seems to dry up my mouth, throat and esophagus.  But I am now having moderate burning sensation above my navel(classic gastritis symptoms).  Also, this morning about 90 minutes after a cup herbal tea, soy milk and a banana I started to have the same burning sensation above my navel and sever water brash.  I took a 75mg Zantac and this surprisingly relieved my symptoms.  I called the GI yesterday and asked if I could take Zantac along with the Hyoscyamine, but he has not returned my call. 

To me it appears the best way to deal with this is to take the Zantac in the morning to reduce the acid and then take the Hysocyamine later in the day and night.

Hopefully, this will work because at this point I am functionally disbaled because of the water brash.  I have not been able to work and being on those PPI's for last two months has but my GI system on a violent roller coaster(constipation, hard bowel movements, and abdominal pain).

I've mentioned the possibilty I am suffering from Bile reflux or  bile gastritis but the GI didn't seem interested in hearing about any self-diagnosis on my part.  It might be time for me get a second opinion or even a new GI but my medical insurance limits this.

Take care and I'll be in touch.

Yong Park

Hi Joanie22, it is generic hyoscyamine (with insurance the cost was $6.45 for 60 pills).  The GI told me not to take any acid reducing medication while  I take the Hyoscyamine.  It was really tough the first two days.  I had really bad gastritis symptoms(deep burning sensation above my navel).  But the symtpoms have decreased a lot.  I called the GI and he told me to try and hang in and take  just the Hyosyamine until my next visit in 8 days.

I am starting to  think the saliva  I am constantly spitting might contain some bile?  I am now getting a sour taste in my mouth and throat.  The water brash has not really got any better.  I have been on Hyoscyamine for the last four days(3x 0.125mg).  Apparently this is the smalled dosage of this med you can get.

I'll let you know how things go.  I can't take much more of this. 

Yong Park

Southern California.