I struggle on a daily basis trying to keep my health up to par. With high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and acid reflux it's difficult to stick to a diet or to find alternative means to help with acid reflux.
I try to keep most of all acid out of my daily menus.&nb...
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Non medication treatments
Jan Gambino
Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 07:05 AMre: Non medication treatments
ladyisis
Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 08:06 AMHello Jan,
I like the list that you have prepared. I have read a lot about acid reflux and your list is very valuable.
I am in the mist of stop smoking. I am trying to lose more weight that could reduce my cholesterol and blood pressure levels. I like the idea of loose clothing around the waist. I just bought some wonderful pillows that are wonderful and firm. Thanks for this tip as it tells me I am doing something right :)
I try daily to think before I take too much acid in my foods. I am glad to know that I really don't eat too much fried foods. The fat foods only sometimes. Ouch! I love my coffee, but I know I have to cut back. Don't drink cola or carbonated drinks at all, and not due to acid reflux. Just don't like them.
Getting tested for lactose intolerance/gluten intolerance. Did not even think of getting tested for that. I am going at the end of January to see my doctor, will ask for this test. Thanks a bunch on this note.
I will also try to avoid eating a big dinner before bed. HOW MANY HOURS BEFORE BED SHOULD I NOT EAT? I got a great tip for not drinking water 3 hours before bed. I was thinking maybe there is a rule of thumb for eating also.
Thank you again Jan for such wonderful and helpful ideas.
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Jan Gambino
Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 12:42 PMDear Ladyisis,
Thank you for your reply. And good for you taking steps to reduce your need for medication and improve your health. I think many people just want to pop a pill and go on with their old habits. It is so much harder to change habits and routines but sometimes the changes can lead to a better outcome.
Take it slowly and try not to change too much all at once. Make sure you keep a diary or journal so you can track your progress. Even just marking a calendar with the number of cigarettes each day can tell you how far you have come along.
Regarding eating before bed: it might make sense to eat 4-6 small meals rather than breakfast, lunch and dinner. I am not sure if there is a rule about it but I would say a 2 hours or more if possible. Again, if you are eating 6 small meals, you might be able to eat 1-2 hours before bed without a problem. The biggest problem is when you go out to eat, wait for a table for 1-2 hours, get served at 10pm and then go home and to bed. Especially with the monster sized servings at a typical restaurant! I always eat a small meal at the restaurant and pack the rest to go home.
Keep up the good work and let me know what the doctor has to say. Jan
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ladyisis
Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 02:24 PMHello again Jan,
One of my problems is taking on too much at a time. I will try to center on the biggest issues and tackle the littler ones later.
When I go to restaurants also I take the left over to go. They serve huge meals and can't eat it all.
Small meals rather than 3 sounds good.
I will also let you know what the doctor says.
Thanks again Jan.
Susan
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Vicki M
Tuesday, January 08, 2008 at 09:41 AMHi Susan,
Thank you for sharing your experiences here. The wonderful thing about a forum like this is you can get information from the experts (like Jan Gambino) and also share ideas with people who live every day with GERD like you do.
One of the articles I read sometime ago talked about foods that actually reduce the acid reflux through natural chemicals. Papaya is one of those foods. You can read what Joy Buchanan has to say about papaya and other acid redusers in a posting here. Acid reflux episodes can be caused by many things, not just food. Stress can also cause acid flair ups! Tracy Davenport says a bit about stress in an article located here.
Good luck on quitting smoking! I know that is hard and adds to the stress of everything else! Stay in touch and let us know how you are doing!
Vicki M
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Living With Combination Diseases Plus Acid Reflux
ladyisis
Tuesday, January 08, 2008 at 11:23 AMHello Vicki,
This is quite interesting. First of all, I did not know that papaya could help with acid reflux. I printed the two recipes that were quoted.
I checked the recipe for "Spring Fruit Salad" that had an ingredient of Papaya, but it also contained pineapple and orange juice. Are these fruits not acidic. I thought they were as I try not to eat them.
I do believe that stress affects acid reflux as when my father died it was really pronounced.
I used to eat a granny apple and the affects would disappear. I don't know if its the pepin in the apple, or what? But it does work for me. It may not work for everybody.
Thanks for your advice concerning acid reflux.
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Vicki M
Wednesday, January 09, 2008 at 01:36 PMHi Ladyisis,
One thing I am amazed about is how every day I learn something new here at healthcentral. I did some research on your question about the acidity of pineapple and orange juice in the fruit salad being a less than optimal choice for sufferers of acid reflux. Did you know that according to wikipedia, since about 2000, all pineapple in the US and European markets is a lower-acid hybrid? (link to quote here)
Also, Tropicana makes a low acid orange juice. So for this particular recipe, there are alternatives. Now that is not to say that you can eat pineapple. It might be a trigger for you, but apparently the fruit currently grown for US consumption is a low acid hybrid developed in the 1970's in Hawaii.
As far as your low acid vinegar, also according to wikipedia, table vinegar is only 5% to 8% acetic acid by volumn. The balance is distilled water. You can probably dilute the vinegar with some water, or try a vinegar substitute like Umeboshi vinegar which is not a vinegar at all, but the brine from pickled plums. It does contain salt, so be careful.
Please do stay in touch and let us know how you are doing!
Vicki M
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ladyisis
Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 09:28 AMHi Vicki,
Thank you for your reply to my post. I searched the internet and also came across information that pineapple is low in acid and it is a "alkaline fruit". This is such good news -- love my pineapple.
I suppose eating more alkaline fruit is superior that acidic fruit? What do you think?
One other point I must check at my supermarket for "Umeboshi Vinegar" as this is totally new to me. I will also check the label to see the percentage of sugar and other ingredients.
Thank you so much for this valuable information. I am learning so much here and it gives me inspiration.
Susan
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ladyisis
Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 09:33 AMOne quick note: I checked in Wikimedia dictionary and it states:
Umeboshi (Japanese: 梅干; literally "dried ume") are pickled ume fruits. Ume is a species of fruit-bearing tree in the genus Prunus, which is often called a plum but is actually more closely related to the apricot. Umeboshi are a type of tsukemono, or traditional Japanese pickled food, and are very popular in Japan.
Umeboshi are usually round, and vary from unwrinkled to very wrinkled. They taste salty, and are extremely sour due to high citric acid content - they have been known to corrode their way through aluminium lunch boxes if kept in the same spot every day.
Umeboshi are often cited in Japan as being extremely healthy. The standard Japanese folk remedy for colds and flus is okayu (Japanese congee) with umeboshi.
I am sort of confused now because after reading this it would seem that Umeboshi Vinegar has a very high acidic content.
What do you think? Where did you see when you did your research that it was not high in acid?
Maybe I was wrong and did not do enough research.
Susan
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Vicki M
Friday, January 11, 2008 at 11:25 AMHi Susan,
Keeping me on my toes!! I found the Umeboshi vinegar by doing a google search and there was a reference on the wikipedia entry about pineapple although now I can't seem to find that :( I did another search a moment ago, and found many sites that say it is common for people to treat the occasional instance of acid reflux with a tablespoon of cider vinegar. To that, the Umeboshi vinegar was considered to be better than cider. Most of these sites were organic food, homeopathic and natural food sites, not necessarily the work of medical professionals. I am going to ask the experts to weigh in on this particular issue to see if we can get some definative answers about good acids versus bad. Stay tuned!!
Vicki M
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ladyisis
Friday, January 11, 2008 at 12:39 PMThanks Vicki,
When I did my search I did not really look into organic foods. Maybe I should in the future. It would seem by what you are explaining is that most organic is much better than store bought.
Sorry to keep you so busy. I do appreciate all your input and help. I did go to see my doctor and he prescribed "Nexium" for me in 40mg tablet. I try to stay away from medications as much as possible. Going the natural way has always been my way of life.
I know sometimes life throws you a cure (like acid reflux) but I am going to try the natural way unless I have no other alternative.
I will stay tuned for your input.
Thanks again.
Susan
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Acidic Levels of Vinegar
ladyisis
Tuesday, January 08, 2008 at 02:09 PMI am wondering which of the vinegars is the least acidic.
I love my fresh beans and salad and I need to make a vinegrette but which type of vinegar should I use?
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ladyisis
Wednesday, January 16, 2008 at 11:15 AMThanks Vicki,
I enjoyed the article and I will include payaya in my menus. Thank you very much for your hard work.
Susan
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List of Vinegars and Their Acid Content and Uses
ladyisis
Wednesday, January 16, 2008 at 12:13 PMHello all,
I thought I would share this information that I got while surfing the internet.
A list of Acid / Alkaline Forming Foods http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm
You will see in this chart that Apple Cider Vinegar is an alkalizing acid. White vinegar is a acidifying food.
http://www.greathealth247.com/ph-acid-alkaline-food-chart.html
I am keeping track of what I eat in comparision to acid and alkalizing foods. More towards the alkalizing foods.
White
Most commercial white vinegars are 5% acetic acid solutions.
Malt
Malt vinegar is made by malting barley, causing the starch in the grain to turn to maltose. The acetic acid is less than 4 percent.An ale is then brewed from the maltose and allowed to turn into vinegar, which is then aged. It is typically light brown in color.
A cheaper alternative, called "non-brewed condiment," is a solution of 4-8% acetic acid colored with caramel (usually E150). There is also around 1-3% citric acid present. Non-brewed condiment is more popular in the North of England, and gained popularity with the rise of the Temperance movement
Wine
Wine vinegar is made from red or white wine, and is the most commonly used vinegar in Mediterranean countries and Central Europe. As with wine, there is a considerable range in quality. Better quality wine vinegars are matured in wood for up to two years and exhibit a complex, mellow flavor. Wine vinegar tends to have a lower acidity than that of white or cider vinegars. There are more expensive wine vinegars made from individual varieties of wine, such as Champagne, Sherry, or pinot grigio.
Apple cider
Apple cider vinegar, otherwise known simply as cider vinegar, is made from cider or apple must, and is often sold unfiltered, with a brownish-yellow color; it often contains mother of vinegar. It is currently very popular, partly due to its alleged beneficial health and beauty properties. Due to its acidity, apple cider vinegar can be very caustic, even burning the throat. If taken straight (as opposed to usage in cooking), it should be diluted (e.g. with fruit juice) before drinking. Others dilute it with warm water and add some honey.
Fruit
Fruit vinegars are made from fruit wines usually without any additional flavoring. Common flavors of fruit vinegar include apple, black currant, raspberry, quince, and tomato. Typically, the flavors of the original fruits remain tasteable in the final vinegar.
Most such vinegars are produced in Europe, where there is a growing market for high price vinegars made solely from specific fruits (as opposed to non-fruit vinegars which are infused with fruits or fruit flavors). Persimmon vinegar is popular in South Korea, and jujube vinegar is produced in China. Umeboshi vinegar, a salty, sour liquid that is a by-product of umeboshi (pickled ume) production, is produced in Japan but is technically not a true vinegar.
Balsamic
Balsamic vinegar is an aromatic, aged type of vinegar traditionally manufactured in Modena, Italy, from the concentrated juice, or must, of white grapes (typically of the Trebbiano variety). It is very dark brown in color and its flavor is rich, sweet, and complex, with the finest grades being the end product of years of aging in a successive number of casks made of various types of wood (including oak, mulberry, chestnut, cherry, juniper, ash, and acacia). Originally an artisanal product available only to the Italian upper classes, balsamic vinegar became widely known and available around the world in the late 20th century. True balsamic is aged between 3 - 12 years. One can sometimes even find balsamics that have been aged for up to 100 years, though they are very expensive. The commercial balsamic sold in supermarkets is typically made with red wine vinegar or concentrated grape juice mixed with a strong vinegar which is laced with caramel and sugar. However produced, balsamic needs to be made from a grape product.
Balsamic has a high acid level, but the sweetness covers the tart flavor, making it very mellow.
Rice
Rice vinegar is most popular in the cuisines of East and Southeast Asia. It is available in white (actually light yellow), red, and black variants. The Japanese prefer a light and more delicate rice vinegar for the preparation of sushi rice and salad dressings. Red rice vinegar is traditionally colored with red yeast rice, although some Chinese brands use artificial food coloring instead. Black rice vinegar (made with black glutinous rice) is most popular in China, although it is also produced in Japan It may be used as a substitute for balsamic vinegar, although its dark color and the fact that it is aged may be the only similarity between the two products. Some varieties of rice vinegar are sweetened or otherwise seasoned with spices or other added flavorings.
There is no difference between rice vinegar and rice wine vinegar. Vinegar can be made from just about any fruit, vegetable or grain. It's a two-step process: first an alcoholic fermentation to covert sugars in the base material to alcohol; then an acetic fermentation to covert the resulting brew to (acetic) acid. Rice vinegar - which is lower in acid than many vinegars, is made from rice (obviously), and its subtle flavor is not only essential in East Asian cooking, it's great in salads.
Coconut
Coconut vinegar, made from the sap, or "toddy," of the coconut palm, is used extensively in Southeast Asian cuisine (particularly in the Philippines, a major producer), as well as in some cuisines of India. A cloudy white liquid, it has a particularly sharp, acidic taste with a slightly yeasty note.
East Asian black
Chinese black vinegar is an aged product made from rice, wheat, millet, or sorghum, or a combination thereof. It has an inky black color and a complex, malty flavor. There is no fixed recipe and thus some Chinese black vinegars may contain added sugar, spices, or caramel color. The most popular variety, Chinkiang vinegar, originated in the city of Zhenjiang, in the eastern coastal province of Jiangsu, China, and is also produced in Tianjin and Hong Kong.
A somewhat lighter form of black vinegar, made from rice, is also produced in Japan, where it is called kurozu. Since 2004 it has been marketed as a healthful drink; its manufacturers claim that it contains high concentrations of amino acids.
Flavored vinegars
Popular fruit-flavored vinegars include those infused with whole raspberries, blueberries, or figs (or else from flavorings derived from these fruits). Some of the more exotic fruit-flavored vinegars include blood orange and pear.
Herb vinegars are flavored with herbs, most commonly Mediterranean herbs such as thyme or oregano. Such vinegars can be prepared at home by adding sprigs of fresh or dried herbs to store-bought vinegar; generally a light-colored, mild tasting vinegar such as that made from white wine is used for this purpose.
Sweetened vinegar is of Cantonese origin and is made from rice wine, sugar and herbs including ginger, cloves and other spices.
Spiced vinegar, from the Philippines (labeled as spiced sukang maasim), is flavored with chili peppers, onions, and garlic.
Kombucha
Kombucha vinegar, also referred to as probiotic vinegar, is made from kombucha, a symbiotic culture of yeast and bacteria. The bacteria produce a complex array of nutrients and populate the vinegar with symbiotic bacteria which some claim promote a heathy digestive tract, though no scientific studies have shown this to date. Kombucha vinegar is primarily used to make a vinaigrette and flavored by adding strawberries, blackberries, mint, or blueberries at the beginning of fermentation.
Culinary uses
Vinegar is commonly used in food preparation, particularly in pickling processes, vinaigrettes, and other salad dressings. It is an ingredient in sauces such as mustard, ketchup, and mayonnaise. Vinegar is an essential component of chutneys. It is often used as a condiment. Marinades often contain vinegar.
- Condiment for fish and chips - Britons commonly use malt vinegar (or non-brewed condiment) on chips; it may be used in other territories where British-style fish and chips are served.
- Flavouring for potato chips - In the case of American-style chips or crisps, many manufacturers of pre-packaged potato chips/crisps feature a variety flavored with vinegar and salt.
- Condiment for French Fries, particularly in the Northeastern United States
- Vinegar pie - is a North American dessert made with a vinegar to one's taste.
- Pickling - any vinegar can be used to pickle foods.
- Cider vinegar and sauces - cider vinegar is not usually suitable for use in delicate sauces.
- Substitute for lemon juice - cider vinegar can usually be substituted for lemon juice in recipes and obtain a pleasing effect.
- Saucing roast lamb - pouring cider vinegar over the meat when roasting lamb, especially when combined with honey or when sliced onions have been added to the roasting pan, produces a tasty sauce.
- Sweetened vinegar (see Flavored vinegars above) is used in the dish of Pork Knuckles and Ginger Stew which is made among Chinese people of Cantonese backgrounds to celebrate the arrival of a new child.
- Sushi rice - Japanese use rice vinegar as an essential ingredient for sushi rice.
- Red vinegar - Sometimes used in Chinese soups
Cholesterol
A scientific study published in 2006 concluded that a test group of rats fed with acetic acid (the main component of vinegar) had "significantly lower values for serum total cholesterol and triacylglycerols", among other health benefits.
Blood glucose control and diabetic management
Small amounts of vinegar (approx. 20 mls or two tablespoons of domestic vinegar) added to food, or taken along with a meal, have been shown by a number of medical trials to reduce the glycemic index of carbohydrate food for people with and without diabetes.This has also been expressed as lower glycemic index ratings in the region of 30%.
Diet control
Multiple trials indicate that taking vinegar with food increases satiety (the feeling of fullness) and so reduces the amount of food consumed.Even a single application of vinegar can lead to reduced food intake for a whole day.
Miscellaneous
- When a bottle of vinegar is opened, mother of vinegar may develop. It is considered harmless and can be removed by filtering. Colloquially collected knowledge recommends an expiration / shelf life of 12-18 months , though no reference explicitly states its toxicity. Various record can be found warning of decomposition of flavoring elements, such as whole leaves, prepared in the vinegar.
- When vinegar is added to sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), it produces a volatile mixture of carbonic acid rapidly decomposing into water and carbon dioxide bubbles, making the reaction "fizz". It is exemplified as the typical acid-base reaction in school science experiments. The salt that is formed is sodium acetate.
Hope this helps for anyone who is wishing to lower their acid levels, especially trying to replace vinegar in their menu.
Susan
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ladyisis
Monday, January 21, 2008 at 10:35 AMGlad I could help Vicki.
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Vicki M
Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 09:00 AMHey There!
How are you doing? Any luck with finding a vinegar you can use without flarring up your acid reflux? Hope you are well!
Vicki M
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Vicki M
Sunday, March 30, 2008 at 11:55 PMHi Ladyisis,
I was thinking about you today and wanted to see how you were doing. Did you try any of the natural remedies? Anything working for you that you would like to share?
Hope you are well. Stay in touch!
Vicki M
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ladyisis
Monday, March 31, 2008 at 09:59 AMI decided to change my whole way of eating through my local hospital and through a dietician. I am eating more as a vegetarian and eating once per week red or white meat.
I have turned to legumes, vegetables, fruits, homemade bouillon. I have gone the whole nine yards, as guess what! My acid reflux is really good. Hardly ever have any problems.
I have found eating right, quantity and balancing of foods - from starch to protein to fruits and vegetables have helped me tremendously.
Not only for weight wise I have lost 11 pounds, but through proper eating I feel lighter and am following an exercise program - 3 times per week. I walk in between workouts.
My mind is much clearer and I seem to be able to focus more. This is a big change and at the same time a wonderful change.
This new eating habit will also reduce my cholesterol and blood pressure, so in essence I am helping myself to going the natural way and possibly reduction in medications.
For now I am still taking my medications, but I go to see the doctor in May and hopefully I will have good news concerning my blood pressure. The other medications I will be tested again in January 2009 so I have time to continue of this healthy path.
I am very pleased with all the help you have given me also. I choose very wisely when it comes to my health. I read all the labels as the dietician at the hospital had taught me. Quantity is very important also and I thought I would be hungrier but I wasn't and my sweet tooth is very rare and I am thankful I don't have those cravings because this was another area where I was putting on weight.
I get all the sugar I need from my diet. Thank the Lord :)
All in all, everything is going to plan.
Talk with you soon Vicki.
Susan
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Vicki M
Monday, March 31, 2008 at 08:50 PMSusan,
That is great!! Do you have a recipe for making your own bouillion? Do you use meat products? I love to sip on bouillion from time to time but always worry about the salt content.Do you have any yummy recipes to share? I would love some new ideas. I am not big on legumes mostly because I don't know how to prepare them fresh.
Thanks for letting us know how you are doing. I always look forward to reading your experiences.Be well!!
Vicki M
replyGot a few recipes for you Vicki
ladyisis
Tuesday, April 01, 2008 at 10:39 AMHi Vicki,
I decided to share my recipes with the world and I joined this recipe web site and posted a few for everyone to see.
http://www.recipezaar.com/recipes.php?chef=309903
Concerning a bouillon from scratch, it is quite simple. The trick of it is not to waste what's left in your frigedaire before restocking your refrigerator.
So, this is what I do.
I find some:
celery
carrots
broccoli
onions
cauliflower
I always keep a stock of these vegetables in my refrigerator. I eat them but when they are beginning to get a little old I use them to make my bouillon.
Take all of the above ingredients, with your favorite herbs and spices. I love my basil and oregano, and garlic to taste, a especially a bay leaf which give it the final touch. Add these ingredients to 8 cups of water.
Boil these ingredients for at least 2 hours. Pour through a strainer and put them into individual containers and freeze them. Keep one aside it you want to use it on the same day.
I use this bouillon for soups, stir frys, and sometimes I add a little to the water when I am cooking fresh vegetables.
I will try and post more recipes when I can.
Hope this will help.
Susan
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Dear Ladyisis,
Thank you for your message. I wanted to share some ideas with you. You can talk to your doctor and decide how to move forward. I imagine that the Nexium is one of several medications you need. That can really add up. Have you talked to the doctor or phamacist about getting the medication covered? Some pharmaceutical companies have special coupons and discount programs that might help. It is worth a try. The bottom line is that you MIGHT need medication and non medication treatments for reflux. Your doctor will tell you if you have signs of esophagitis or ulcers that need medicine.
If you are trying to decrease symptoms, there are many non medication approaches. I will give you a long list and you can see what makes sense for your situation:
Lifestyle: avoid tobacco smoke, lose weight if overweight, wear loose clothing around the waist, sleep on an elevated surface (pillows or wedge) to keep your head upright.
Diet: reduce or eliminate high acid foods, fried and high fat foods, caffeine, cola, carbonated drinks such as soda, chocolate, spicy foods. ONLY eliminate these foods if they are causing symptoms. some people go on a strict elimination diet and let their stomach rest for two weeks, then gradually add back one food at a time to look for a reaction. Get tested for lactose intolerance/gluten intolerance. Most importantly, eat small, frequent meals and chew well. Have a water bottle nearby and takes sips of water frequently during the day. Avoid eating a big dinner before bed.
Remember, you may not need to do each and every thing. I am giving you some ideas to think about so you can develop a plan that is realisitic for your situation.
Good luck! Jan
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