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My most important job in the world is to parent my two boys. My...

Merely Me

Monday, August 17, 2009
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It seems that whenever someone tells you that they or their child have ADHD, there seems to almost always be an "and" which follows.   As in, "I have ADHD and Depression" or "My son has ADHD, Bipolar Disorder, and a learning disability.  It seems more unusual to just have ADHD and noth...
  1. ADHA and problems
    Katherine
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    I understand about having other disorders with ADHD but how do I know if it's something or just being 17.  He is treated for depression and I know that's a problem but he is lazy ,he can't really talk to other kids his age because he really smart but also he still lives for video games or WOW on the computer and won't go out of his comfort zone.  I live in a small town so I don't have alot of resources.  He has been bullied at school and last year I had to take him out in fear of a melt down.  Now his senior year the school wants to make him to go community college at night instead being in the class he had problems with that go to the college during school hours.  I know parents everywhere are tired of your kids being treated different.  Someone please tell if there is anything I can do so this doesn't happen to someone else.  Also is this legal????

    hanks for listen

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    re: ADHA and problems
    Anonymous
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 01:33 PM

    Katherine,

     

    I sorry your son and you have to go through this difficult time. Take it one day at a time and try and stay positive. Maybe your son should try a therapist. Someone different that will listen to him and not judge but give sound advice. If he doesn't like the first therapist try someone else. I have been through some difficult times with my son and a therapist seemed to help. My thoughts are with you.

    Take care,

    Noreen

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    re: ADHA and problems
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:09 AM

    Hi Katherine!

     

    It is good to meet you.  May I ask...what was the reason given by the school for sending him to the community college instead of having him remain with the other kids?  And was this a suggestion or a mandate that he have to do this?  What would your son prefer doing?  I would think that they need to have the reason substantiated in writing to make such a drastic change for your son.  You would need to talk to the school to find this out.

     

    I am hopeful for you and your son that once he does leave high school...things may improve for him in that he will be exposed to new people who are hopefully more mature and he will have greater independence. 

     

    One thing I was going to suggest...but if you don't have a good relationship with the school...I don't know...but to get him evaluated by the school.  Another option is to get him to see his general practitioner doctor and give him a list of concerns you might have about his behavior or difficulty in school and....see if you can get a referral to get him evaluated.

     

    I am sorry your son is going through this.  And I am sorry you are having to witness this. 

     

    It really might be good for you to get your son evaluated at this point so that he can get the help he needs to progress further on into the college years.

     

    Thank you so much for writing here and reaching out.  Please feel free to write a sharepost about your experience parenting your son...I am sure a lot of other parents are in the same boat as you are.

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  2. ADHD and other disorders
    Anonymous
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 01:42 PM

    What about ADHD and OCD?   My daughter bites her fingernails and picks on her toenails until there is nothing left - I am concerned that she will permanently damage the nail beds and cannot get her to stop.  Her pediatrician does not have any suggestions and we've tried every type of bad tasting concoction to get her to stop.

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    re: ADHD and other disorders
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:24 AM

    Hi there!

     

    Did I leave OCD out of my list?  It definitely should be there...and yes OCD can be a co-existing condition to ADHD.

     

    I want to give you some links to some resources we have on Health Central to OCD information.

     

    On our Anxiety site we have a guide to OCD and treatment options which you may find here.

     

    And we have an article here about a medication used to treat OCD.

     

    I believe that there are certain medications that can help with this.  I am thinking you may need to seek another opinion from another doctor or specialist who knows about OCD.  But too...I have to ask...has your daughter been officially diagnosed with OCD?  She may need to be evaluated to determine a cause for her behavior.

     

    Here is a site I found which offers help and suggestions to chronic nail picking.  They seem to have some good ideas there.

     

    I wish you the best of luck with this...I know it must be hard to watch your daughter engage in this behavior.  Thank you for reaching out here and I do hope you stay on with us here at ADHD Central.

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    re: ADHD and other disorders
    Merely Me
    Monday, August 24, 2009 at 01:35 PM

    Hi there!

     

    Just wanted to let you know...I have written an article in response to your comment about compulsive picking at skin and also pulling out hair.

     

    You may find that article here.

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  3. my daughter
    stressedmom80
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 02:32 PM

    my 8 yr old was diagnosed with adhd when she was 4 but she was to young for the medication so they waited until she was almost 5 to put her on it.   She has severe violent out bursts occasionally and could careless who she hurts or about the consequences of her actions in second grade the school almost called the juvenile authorities on her because of an assault on 3 boys with a jump rope she blackened one of their eyes.  She was commited to the hospitals psychiatric ward once for her agressive behavior, they assured me that if she has anger problems that she would not be able to hide them for more than 24 hours , however she only had one minor flair up in the nine days she was there, the nurse caught her hitting me on a visit.   The hospital said she is extremely manipulative and hyper verbal , thats it they did not help me much.

          She got a little better for a while but now she is getting back to being mean, hateful, and violent again, I wish there was more her doctors and couslers can do . She is going into third grade this year and I don't want her to be sent to the alternative school for the badly behaved kids, she could get hurt there , she constatly picks fights with people.    The one thing her doctor did tell me is that it is unusual for a girl to have the violence and aggression that girlls usually have the lack of concentration and the spacing out, (which my daughter does not have.

        She also has mild ocd, she has to have everything lined up perfectly and color organized. she has sensitivity to the seams of her socks and it will take her a half hour just to put her socks on, I have to cut the tags out of her clothing.   She took some kind of test and it says she has symptoms of depression, ODD,OCD and bi polar but who knows.

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    re: my daughter
    stressedmom80
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 02:37 PM

    oh one more thing, she sits there with her fingernails and digs in one spot on either side of her head constantly it will scab over then she starts digging again, I have tried everything to get her to stop she won't those two spots on her head are scarred and i am afraid she will ahve permanent bald spots there if she doesn't stop. she also picks at her toes, bites her finger nails and constantly stretches out her shirts

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    re: my daughter
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:44 AM

    Hi Stressed mom!

     

    You certainly are going through a lot here.  Okay so you are telling us that your daughter's behaviors include:

     

    *  Anger issues

     

    *  Aggression

     

    *  Possible OCD behaviors

     

    *  Sensory Integration Disorder issues (this is most likely the cause of the problems with clothing, etc.)

     

    Anything else?  Problems academically?  Problems communicating?  Social skills issues?

     

    There is so much here to tackle...let me just give a few things to read for now.

     

    Here is information that I wrote about Sensory Integration Disorder which may be helpful to you.

     

    Here is information about ways to help your child with Anger Management issues.

     

    It sounds like your daughter may not have clear or firm diagnoses to know exactly what you are dealing with here.  I think that is going to be so important in getting her the right treatment and being pro-active.

     

    When is she at her best?  What circumstances make for her best behavior?

     

    About the scalp picking...I am giving you the link to an organization which deals with this form of OCD behavior called Trichotillomania Learning Center which you may find here.

     

    Please do keep writing here and reaching out.  We are here for you!

     

     

     

     

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  4. ADHD and Tourette Syndrome
    EJ
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 04:31 PM

    Tourette Syndrome also occurs with ADHD.  My 9 yr. old son has both, although I often wonder if the TS is the main disorder and the ADHD -like symptoms are just part of it.

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    re: ADHD and Tourette Syndrome
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:30 AM

    Hi there!

     

    You are absolutely right.  Tourette's Syndrome can definitely be a co-condition to having ADHD.  And yes...it is often hard to tell which is the primary condition. Your child's ADHD symptoms might take a backseat to the symptoms of his Tourette's 

     

    Our Eileen Bailey did write and article about Tourette's Syndrome which you may find here.

     

    I was wondering if you might want to write a sharepost about experience parenting your son who has Tourette's.  I think so many parents here would be interested.  There is so much we do not know about this mysterious disorder.

     

    I thank you for contributing to our discussion here and I do hope you stay on with us at ADHD Central.  Your input and insights are very valued here.

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  5. Untitled Comment
    elizabeth
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 05:52 PM

    My son is now 10yrs old.  Was dx with severe ADHD at the age of 3 and then 3 yrs ago it came up that he also had Asperger's, ODD, and mild OCD; so I completely understand the multiple diagnosis and how hard it is for dr.s to pin point just the one.  My son was in Special Education for 2 yearsand the school system has decided that he no longer qualifies for that program based on his test results, which they did while he was on his ADHD medication, instead of his diagnosis.  He has been in school for a total of a week in a 'mainstream' classroom and is already complaining of having no friends and that the work is overwhelming to him.  He can not write nor read cursive and still has difficulties with multiplication.  I am at a loss at what to do so am considering homeschooling him and have been researching heavily the curriculum available.  Thank GOD i have such a wonderful dr. who  also agrees with me... 

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    re: Untitled Comment
    stressedmom80
    Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 11:07 PM

    the school wanted to put my daughter in special ed also but her psychiatrist said she is to smart for that , she does not have trouble with the education part of school just the social part, she got mostly b's on her report card and 2 c's.

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    re: re: Untitled Comment
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:47 AM

    Hi again stressed mom

     

    Has Asperger's syndrome ever come up in the talks with doctors?  I don't know your daughter and I am not a therapist but just putting that out there as maybe something to look into. 

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    re: Untitled Comment
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:53 AM

    Elizabeth...I homeschool my son who is now 13...and has autism.  I absolutely think it was the right decision for us.  It is a deeply personal choice to homeschool but I want you to know that it is an option if you are able to stay home and teach your son. 

     

    If you want more information...I have tons of it.

     

    There is a lady named Tammy Glaser that you need to meet on-line...she has been homeschooling for years and years for her daughter who is on the spectrum and she has an on-line support group called Aut-2B-home which you can find more about here.

     

    If you need any more links to resources or information...just let me know!

     

    Thank you so much for your comment here.

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    rmy son
    wee robert
    Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 02:48 PM
    hi im carrie my son s 8 he has epilespy a d h d and querrying autism i find out on the 3 rd of nov he also has a learning disabilty and o cd he is obbssessed with bubbles
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  6. How did you find this article?
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 08:55 AM

    Hi everyone...just wanted to know how you all found my article here?  Was it through a search engine, because you already follow my posts, or was it the link I had placed on the depression site or other? 

     

    Just curious!

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  7. ADHD
    jglennon
    Sunday, August 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    As a former elementary school principal, I am quite aware that attention difficulties are just the tip of the iceberg. ADHD children can't filter out distractions, finish tasks on-time, use their memory optimally, etc. A pill doesn't teach these skills.

    My wife and I opted to use cognitive training for our son, Alex. We used Play Attention (www.playattention.com) and ADHD Nanny (www.adhdnanny.com). We've been very successful with these approaches. We also changed our parenting skills with great success.

    It's just important to know that medicine teaches nothing. Parents and teachers must actively participate to help change a child's life.

    I'm aware that 1 - 4 months of academic achievement are lost over the summer by the average student. It was far worse than that for our son, Alex. Thus, we began the next year with a big deficit. Not anymore!

     

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    re: ADHD
    Merely Me
    Monday, August 24, 2009 at 01:41 PM

    Hi there!

     

    Thank you so much for your comment!  Sounds like you are doing some great pro-active things to help your son.  I would certainly love to hear more specifics...if you ever have time...please do write a sharepost on your experiences helping your child...I know that so many parents would care to hear what you are doing which is successful.

     

    Nice to meet you and I hope to hear more from you on this site!

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    re: re: ADHD
    jglennon
    Wednesday, September 02, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    It seems that restructuring our parenting approaches and providing the proper tools were the catalysts that provided success.


    I've got to say, we struggled to find the right tools for our family. It takes a great deal of research and time. Most parents don't have the time or inclination to do this as life with an ADHD child is stressful.


    Since my background is in educational administration, I opted for an educational feedback based program call Play Attention. It actually allows my son to control their video games by mind alone! Kind of like Harry Potter as my son explains it. NASA inspired software and very effective.


    We also tried ADHD Nanny.com. It's specifically for younger kids, but it significantly increases organization, structure, and compliance with chores around the house. Very cleverly structured site. Points are awarded for chores (Nanny keeps up with which chores need to be done each day) and can be redeemed for Nanny rewards. It was very motivational.

     

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  8. Untitled Comment
    Laura B
    Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 08:41 PM

    My 8 year old son was diagnosed with ADHD 3 years ago and was recently diagnosed with CAPD. (Central Auditory Processing Disorder)

     

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    re: Untitled Comment
    Merely Me
    Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 08:03 PM

    Hi there!

     

    Can you tell us more about CAPD?  I know a lot of children on the autism spectrum also have this disorder.  How is your son being treated for this?

     

    Thank you so much for sharing here.

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