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Q: why has brand-name adderall changed formula, and now has 'dp' imprint, rather than 'AD'?

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Eileen Bailey, Health Guide
2/11/09 5:29pm

Sophia

 

I am sorry, I do not know the answer to your question. I will continue to look for an answer and let you know if I find out.

 

Eileen

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sophia, Community Member
8/21/09 3:18pm

The pharmacy where I was getting the original formula adderall IR that WORKS has just stopped carrying it!  So, I did call Barr pharmaceuticals, division of Teva, here in the US, in New Jersey, and spoke w/a very attentive and caring person who emphasized the importance of calling them!  She said they don't read the message boards, that the ONLY way any change can occur is by us calling.  I could tell she was VERY aware of the situation, said the new pills do have very different inactive ingredients, that it was a proprietary decision, etc.  I told her these new pills are like the generics, and asked why in the world they would lower the bar (no pun intended) by basically making their name-brand medications exactly like their generics...  Also Barr recalled their generic Adderall stock recently...  Anyway, PLEASE CALL BARR/TEVA!!  The call didn't take long, was answered immediately, and the woman w/whom I spoke REALLY seemed to care!  I told her that not only did these 'new' pills not work, they also have a negative feel!  I said they were ineffective and negative to the degree that I would rather take NOTHING than take them.  So, here's the numbers and address and website again ~ PLEASE CALL THEM!!

 

suggest contacting Barr Pharmaceuticals regarding this change in brand name Adderall.

 

Barr Pharmaceuticals
225 Summit Ave.
Montvale, NJ 07645
United States 
Phone: 201-930-3300
Fax: 201-930-3330
Toll Free: 800-222-0190
http://www.tevapharm.com/contact/

 


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Eileen Bailey, Health Guide
8/23/09 7:45pm

Sophia

 

Thanks so much for letting me know how the phone call worked out and why the medication is different.

 

I appreciate you taking the time to let me know.

 

Eileen

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very upset, Community Member
8/30/11 2:55am

i feel the same i take 4 30mg tabs a day the orange round suck the orange footballs r a little better but the pink round made byCorepharma r the best i hav had in the generic i hav no insurance only a familywise discount card i use at walgrees and 120 r 33.05 saving of 114.00 i stll want to try the real adderall because my tolerance is getting higher on all these Shire Manufacture makes the real adderall i am going to see if i can get a discount or even free from them. I hav been on these since 2003 and started with the xr i didn't like them.

 

 

very upset 

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Nightingale755, Community Member
7/ 5/13 7:43pm

I feel that the 2 Co. are illegally selling off the Generic as the Brand. Pharmacist said it has the same formula. NOT , I can tell the difference between the Brand vs Genetic. I will call Teva-Barr on Monday and give them a piece of me.  Brand works better, lasts longer than the crappu Generic pills they are pushing on patients. The Generic pills do not last as long as the Brand. The FDA should ne notifide about what they are doing. Also tell the FDA Teva/Barr are pushing pharmacys to sell people the Generic. Someone is getting a big kick back. Also FDA should shut down ALL THE MAIL ORDER PHARMACYS, they always get the orders mixed up, your lost in the system, and the LIE BIG TIME. Now that is a CLASS A TION LAE SUTE.  

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laura, Community Member
11/17/09 5:48pm

Has anyone else had any allergic reaction to the new formula? I started getting hives about a month ago and I can't figure out why. I had allergy tests and they discovered that I am allergic to a lot of things, but nothing about my diet or living or working environment has changed, nor have any of my other medicines. Hives is listed as a possible side effect of Adderall, but I have been taking it for years and never had a problem before. Has anyone else found themselves itching since they started taking the new formula?

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MedsMakeMeSick, Community Member
7/20/10 6:46pm

Could be an allergic reaction to Sulfa, which can be found in a number of generic forms of Adderall. The allergic reaction can be very dangerous, even life-threatening.
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FrankPSH, Community Member
3/ 3/11 4:44pm

Original Adderall, by Shire Pharmaceuticals, is nothing more than a combination of 2 generic medications, but that combination was patentable, so a proprietary medication was born In 2009 the patents ran out and a Generic of original Adderall became available. Adderall instant-release is manufactured today by Teva and Barr Pharmaceuticals. The active ingredients  of Adderall include a combination of equal parts dextroamphetamine and racemic DL-amphetamine salts.

 

Adderall XR consists of the following amphetamine compounds in equal proportions: dextroamphetamine saccharate, dextroamphetamine sulfate, racemic amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, and racemic amphetamine sulfate. Since the components metabolize at different rates, an XR claim is made. There are current legal actions in that regard.

 

By slightly changing the formulation, Shire Pharmaceuticals again patented a new, proprietary version Adderall. The new formulations is still made up of a new combination of generic drugs, but the new combination formula is also patentable.

 

It is all about money and profits. Your money and Pharmaceutical companies' profits. The new formulation Adderall is aggressively marketed through doctors, who then push it, and through media advertising. This is a common marketing ploy not exclusive to pharmaceutical companies. But the new formulations are sold at mush higher proprietary prices.

 

Caveat Emptor, Let The Buyer beware.

 

The "dp" imprint explanation can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall

 

In reality, any consumers with a mortar and pestle and capsule shells can illegally formulate their own Adderall or Adderall XR. But I don't recommend it.

 

 

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hs, Community Member
10/26/12 4:27pm

I too am sufferring due to the changed formula.  Headaches, feel crappy, completely ineffective!  why would the government do this to so many that are suffering from this?  We didnt ask to have ADD/ADHD.  So why would they change something that was working so well for us?  To save money?  Seems like they will be paying alot more money to those who need these to focus etc...so we can work and pay our bills, feed our families.....Looks like its time for a class action Lawsuit!   

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piris, Community Member
6/27/09 2:42pm

no idea....trying to figure it out too....

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sophia, Community Member
6/27/09 5:14pm

Strange thing is that I switched pharmacies and now get the old kind...  Works much better.  I don't know how they get away w/2 different 'name-brand' medications!

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piris, Community Member
6/27/09 8:18pm

i hope its a new stock  -- I think there is a new company that makes it...and guess what? It was the company making the generics... not sure if its going to be the only one.

 

Also, found this posting More Walgreens Shadiness

In any case, these pills are 'fake', my money went to waste and does not help with my problem.

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sophia, Community Member
6/27/09 11:24pm

Would that be barr?  Walgreens and CVS have the same fake pills... I agree with you 100%, they are a complete waste.  I found the old ones at a Rice Food Market, in an upscale neighborhood.  Everything comes in very small batches.  They do help.

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laura, Community Member
11/20/09 5:30pm

Who manufactures the old ones? How can I find out if a pharmacy has the old ones? What do I ask for?

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tomlinson, Community Member
6/29/09 5:03pm

This morning I spoke on the phone with an individual at Barr Pharmaceuticals' USA headquarters in Montvale, New Jersey with respect to Adderall.  (Barr Pharmaceuticals, a division of Teva Pharmaceuticals, is the manufacturer of brand name Adderall.  Barr also manufactures a generic version.) 

 

The individual I spoke with confirmed that brand name Adderall does have a new, different formulation.  She indicated that pharmacies might still have some stock of the old formulation - but as it runs out, it will be replaced by the new formulation.  She indicated further that the original formulation will no longer be manufactured.

 

She stated that she would relay my concerns about the new formulation's "ineffectiveness" to the appropriate department within the company.

 

The new fomulation of Adderall is problematic because in my view, it does not work nearly as well as the original formulation.  (And apparently I am not alone in my feeling that the new formulation has decreased efficacy compared to the original formulation.)


I suggest contacting Barr Pharmaceuticals regarding this change in brand name Adderall.

 

Barr Pharmaceuticals
225 Summit Ave.
Montvale, NJ 07645
United States 
Phone: 201-930-3300
Fax: 201-930-3330
Toll Free: 800-222-0190
http://www.tevapharm.com/contact/

 

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Fran, Community Member
7/ 1/09 2:26pm

I recently also got my RX filled , and noticed that there were two different imprints on the pills, one with the old AD on it and the other the dp mark or it also looks like a figure 8 with a slash through it .

 

I called the pharmacy to make sure these were the correct medication and they informed me that yes this was the new imprint for the Adderall pills.

 

I agree , that they do not work as well as the older pill .  Wonder why they would change it without some type of notification a head of time , since this new formula has not helped me control my ADD symptons as well as the older formula.

 

 

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tomlinson, Community Member
7/ 1/09 4:41pm

I have no idea why the company would change the brand name formulation - apparently without any notice.   And IMO the new formulation is nowhere nearly as effective as the old one.  (Many others evidently feel the same way.)  I think that changing the brand name formulation of an obviously important medicine is not only outrageous, but highly irresponsible.

 

Also, I'm surprised that there's so little information on the internet and elsewhere about this change in brand name Adderall - but perhaps that's because the new formulation is just beginning to get to the pharmacies.  As more and more people who rely on this medicine experience the new formulation, I think that there will be more information about it - and many more people highly displeased about it.

 

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Natalie_Angel, Community Member
7/11/09 2:05pm

I completely agree! The new pills do not work near as good as the old pills. I will catch myself just staring off, and have a VERY hard time staying on task, even shortly after I take my pills. I have also oticed that I have become more nervous...constantly biting my nails. It sucks! There is a reason that my doctor ask for brand name only (on my prescriptions), and I kind of feel like I have been cheated by the drug industry. If anyone has any more information reguarding the change in the medication, please e-mail me and let me know.

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Jules0924, Community Member
4/ 2/10 2:38pm

Wow Ya thats exactly how I feel. My doctor writes brand medically necessary on my prescription each month because the generic has never really worked (I could tell a huge difference with the generic). And now I go and get my prescription filled at Walgreens and I noticed the new dp on the back, this is the second time I've gotten this dp pill and it NEVER works as well as the one with AD. The dp is just like the generic that my doctor did not want me taking, this is such crap.

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no, Community Member
10/11/12 12:57pm

I agree with all of you.I called teva,Barr and they were interested in what I had to say,but??Do not go to main Street haverehill that pharmacist tried to sell me generic 3 X.I got sick and I have an awefull reaction,headaches etc.She insisted it was brand name two times.I just recently got a new perc. for brand name and I again have a different pill.Orange,round and shinny,20 mg with dp on one side and 20 on the other.Again nothing like the Shire brand that they do not make anymore.We should start a petition and go directly to Shire/Teva for answers on WHY they changed the formula;and why we were not informed.Why did they change something that worked???

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Natalie_Angel, Community Member
7/16/09 6:35am

Barr told me the same thing...the formula has changed, but I find it funny that every pharmacy that I have talked to about this says that the pills are the same, just a different manufacturer. The man I spoke to at Barr told me that I could be seeing a difference in the way the medicine makes me feel due to an adverse reaction (to one of the other medications that I am taking). But, I am not taking any different medications.

 

My mom spoke to one pharmacy that told her that in order for a drug company to change the formula, it has to be approved by the FDA, so how come nobody knows about this except the company that makes it???

 

My suggestion to those of you that are seeing a difference in the way the "new" pills are making you feel is to contact the FDA and file a report at http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/ucm053074.htm . Hope this helps!

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tomlinson, Community Member
7/16/09 3:11pm

I also think that it's a great idea to contact the FDA about this change in brand name Adderall IR.  The more of us that do so, the better our chances of making an impact.

 

Here's another link; it's a list of FDA telephone numbers for complaints: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/ReportaProblem/ConsumerComplaintCoordinators/default.htm

 

Let's make ourselves heard on this!

 

 

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sophia, Community Member
8/21/09 3:38pm

re: why has brand-name adderall changed formula, and now has 'dp' imprint, rather than 'AD'?
sophia
Friday, August 21, 2009 at 03:18 PM

The pharmacy where I was getting the original formula adderall IR that WORKS has just stopped carrying it!  So, I did call Barr pharmaceuticals, division of Teva, here in the US, in New Jersey, and spoke w/a very attentive and caring person who emphasized the importance of calling them!  She said they don't read the message boards, that the ONLY way any change can occur is by us calling.  I could tell she was VERY aware of the situation, said the new pills do have very different inactive ingredients, that it was a proprietary decision, etc.  I told her these new pills are like the generics, and asked why in the world they would lower the bar (no pun intended) by basically making their name-brand medications exactly like their generics...  Also Barr recalled their generic Adderall stock recently...  Anyway, PLEASE CALL BARR/TEVA!!  The call didn't take long, was answered immediately, and the woman w/whom I spoke REALLY seemed to care!  I told her that not only did these 'new' pills not work, they also have a negative feel!  I said they were ineffective and negative to the degree that I would rather take NOTHING than take them.  So, here's the numbers and address and website again ~ PLEASE CALL THEM!!

 

suggest contacting Barr Pharmaceuticals regarding this change in brand name Adderall.

 

Barr Pharmaceuticals
225 Summit Ave.
Montvale, NJ 07645
United States 
Phone: 201-930-3300
Fax: 201-930-3330
Toll Free: 800-222-0190
http://www.tevapharm.com/contact/

 

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RJ, Community Member
9/25/09 11:36am

The Adderall with the DP print on it are total crap.... They are the same as generic, bottom line is do not waste your money on the real AD's..... The generic AD's have a very speedy feeling where you can not focus.... The original  adderall's would allow you to have a consisitant focus and concertration through out the day.

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Becky, Community Member
10/26/11 1:15am

I am on the close to the coast in NC and can not find any drug stores that have any and have not even been told why they can't get it. When i do get mine again and it's not the same i will be contacting FDA.

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Sharposts, Community Member
8/23/09 6:17am

 

There is another generic company (Eon labs owned by Sandoz owned by Novartis who manufacture brand ritalin) who make adderall generic. I switched to it and its awesome.

 

here is the link for details:

 

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56460&page=3

 

 

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yellowbus, Community Member
10/ 5/12 3:46pm

you mean your taking the ritalin then??   or there generic adderall?  How do you get this manufactures product? I live in Minnesota & the phars I have gone to all have the round pink & they do nothing for me. Switching would be great.

 

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jade, Community Member
2/23/10 7:27pm

I for one,take Adderall 20 mg,and have noticed the change. The AD formula is the ONLY brand adderall, which was made by Shire(DSM). The formula with dp on the back was put out by Duramed, a subsidiary of Barr, and it is a Generic.The other formula of Adderall 20 mg, has b/973 on back ,2/0 on front is in fact another Generic put out by Barr. Teva pharmacuiticals has bought out Barr/Duramed, and they plan on putting the b/973 20mg tablets out as their Brand name Adderall. I have hard copy  proof of this info and may be using it against Teva.

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smokedank, Community Member
2/26/10 10:08pm

How do you have hard evidence of this? Don't get me wrong I believe it, but how can we do anything to stop it? It really sucks I hate this bs formula..:(

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tomlinson, Community Member
3/14/10 11:02pm
Please use the hard copy evidence! I've contacted Teva several times, and finally received a letter stating essentially that they looked into the situation and discovered nothing. I also contacted the FDA, and actually filed a complaint with them. The FDA representative I spoke with seemed completely uninvolved and disinterested. Again, what's happened here is that Teva, the world's largest manufacturer of generic drugs, has purchased a brand name drug (Adderall IR) and unilaterally changed its formula. And the new formula is simply not as effective as the old one was. It's entirely outrageous. It affects a huge number of people who rely on the medicine. In my view, whoever is in a position to do something about this situation should act promptly. Reply
TruthFirst, Community Member
10/10/11 7:45pm

I suggest you contact major media (CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, Fox News, NPR and PBS) to report Teva's actions. Everyone needs to know how Teva has taken advantage of patients by selling what is supposed to be the name brand formula of Adderall, but in truth is the same formula as the generic, which has proved to be ineffective for many patients needing this medication. What's more, they are hiking the price of this product beyond belief! This is an outrage! The FDA may not control price, but they are responsible for approving the formulations in these products and making sure the pharmaceutical companies are honest and accurate in disclosing information about their formulations.   

 

Everyone of us should be well informed about the medications we take. If we let big companies like Teva can take advantage of us, all will suffer.  

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vtomica, Community Member
2/26/13 1:12pm

I am very interested in this hard copy proof of this infor to use against Teva. My email: vtomica@verizon.net  and vtomica@elwd.com

 I have phone or address if needed.  Thank you so much.

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Patsy, Community Member
5/20/10 11:58pm

I am taking 'Adderal Brand' from Barr Laboratories. I believe this is their generic formula. I have taken this same pill before (light blue),when I was trying generic pills to save money.

I did not do well on the generic adderall. But I do very well on the Brand Adderrall ( a dark blue, pill). What Barr Laboratories is selling now ($225.00)  is a generic formula (light blue).

 

Now here is my question Does anyone know where I could go to have these pills tested? I want to know what is in them!

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newhere2011, Community Member
7/28/11 9:38am

I've been reading about these issues on different venues on the net and am just wondering the following: Wouldn't taking brand name XR Adderall, opening up the capsule, crushing the beads and making two doses out of, for example, a 20mg capsule be equivalent to having two brand name IR doses? Or is that fallacious logic?

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SleepingMyLifeAway, Community Member
8/19/11 6:25pm

In answer to your question, you would have to take the medication to a chemical laboratory for testing to determine the exact chemical formulation and then compare it to the original formulation made previously by Shire. The chemical lab would have to answer your question as to whether two capsules would be equivalent to one capsule. In other words, a pharmaceutical trained expert or possibly a compound pharmacist would have to answer your question regarding chemical composition of the brand name Adderall versus the generic formulation. I do understand your desperation to regain daily function and quality of life. Unfortunately, the FDA forces us to find our own solutions to medication formulary changes in order to maintain our health because it fails to properly regulate what happens to proven medication formularies once the original patent expires. As fellow Americans thrown into a healthcare system in which consumers are victims and pawns, it is no surprise that pharmaceutical company profits take precedence over human life.... and insurance company greed that demands consumers pay higher prescription plan premiums for prescription plans that limit plan coverage to second-rate generic medications.

 

I complained to TEVA/Barr Pharmaceutical regarding the ineffectiveness of the new Adderall 20mg IR formulation and asked whether it was the same formulation as the generic formulation it also manufactures. TEVA/Barr corfirmed that since the formulation change two or three years ago when it acquired the Adderall formulation rights from Shire, the brand Adderall 20mg IR tablets (that I am paying $225 for each month) that it now manufactures is identical to its TEVA/Barr's generic formulation (that I could purchase for $50). Sadly, I've been paying the high cost of a brand medication that is the same drug sold as a generic drug that doesn't work for me and TEVA/Barr told me it will not revert back to the old Adderall formulation Shire used to make. I was also told that the FDA approved TEVA/Barr's formulation change, and is aware the company sells the same formulation as both brand and generic Adderall, which to me, is alarming. There is not another medication that targets the hypothalmus gland, controls my symptoms, and allows me to function somewhat normally like the orginal formulation I started taking in 2003. It is sad that the government's watchdog agency expresses such indifference regarding this Adderall formulation issue, yet enforces its classification as a government controlled substance. The FDA obviously fails to control formulation changes that affect people's lives. What agency will protect those Americans that require a specific medication to maintain their health and daily function? What government agency will ensure brand name drugs maintain its original formulation and eliminate changes to formulations forced on an unsuspecting public once patents run out? The FDA mandates pharmaceutical companies conduct multiple levels of drug trials and years of research before it approves its release to consumers, yet fails to require the same drug trials when formulations are changed and sold under the same brand name. Evidently, the FDA doesn't even require that pharmaceutical companies notify physicians prescribing the medication, the patients taking the medication, and the pharmacists dispensing the medication that a formulation change has occurred, especially a medication that targets the brain. Despite the number of complaints to TEVA/Barr and the FDA, the voice of fellow American Adderall users remains unheard. Why does the FDA insist that Adderall remain a government controlled substance when the agency fails to control its original formulation and the years of research and development that support its use and its effectiveness? These are all questions I would like answered by the agency that dictates my quality of life but has no regard for it. 

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SleepingMyLifeAway, Community Member
8/19/11 4:01am

Thank you everyone that has commented on the ineffectiveness of the new brand Adderall. I too have felt cheated after paying $225 for a brand name medication that fails to work any better than the generic formulation. Although I discussed this issue with my doctor and pharmacist, no one seemed to take my complaints seriously and certainly never told me the brand formulation had changed. I also want to have the brand Adderall pills tested. The FDA has failed all of us that depend on this medication to function each day. It is difficult to accept that two years has passed since it was first brought to the attention of the FDA and TEVA/Barr Pharmaceuticals and nothing has been done to remedy this issue.  

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napedog, Community Member
12/10/11 9:09pm

I know of a website that has updates about the Adderall shortage

http://www.wehaveadd.blogspot.com

Good luck finding your addy's. It's tough, but can be done.

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