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Monday, October 27, 2008 peacock, Community Member, asks

Q: can ADHD medication show positive for meth on a drug test

I am being told that medication I take for ADHD wont show positive on a drug test

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miescherMD, Community Member
12/12/08 12:48am
Adderall is a mixture of dextro-amphetamine and amphetamine. Crystal meth is methamphetamineYan active ingr. in Desoxyn). Adderall will show up POSITIVE for AMPHETAMINES or A-AMPHETAMINE(aka legal amps). Now, methamphetamine will come up separately because of it being methylized, therefore having a diff. metabolite from Adderall amps. Usually they test for "AMPHETAMINES" &"METHAMPHETAMINES" separately. If by any chance ur Adderall( and u ONLY have taken legally prescribed Adderall) tests Positive for METHamps, RAISE THE HELL AND MAKE THEM confirm it with GC/MS. Reply
douche2, Community Member
5/ 4/11 7:24pm

I take a generic of dexedrene called dextroamphetamine.  I too have been turned down from 2 jobs in the past year because of a positive for both meth and amphetamines showed up on both and was told meth will show up  in both meth and amphetamines test but amphetamines will only show up only in amphetamines category.  I tried crank once when i was in high school and pulled the hair out of my head (just kidding) when i was up for 3 days straight and never did that again so i am confused as to why i test positive for meth.  When I questioned testing agency about the false positive i was told that they would send my other vial of urine to a different place to be tested for $250(my cost).  Well i dont claim to be a genius or chemist  or master urine specialist but im pretty sure that if we take a bottle of coca cola and pour it in too cups I could pretty much send that anywhere and it will come up coke not pepsi. when i was testing prescription drugs(provigil,rittalin,etc)   to see wich one worked best for my hyper somnia i was prescribed desoxyn which when i picked up at the pharmacy i was surprised to see the label which said methamphetamine generic for desoxyn.  however that was a good three years ago and i didnt finsihed the script because it had made me very pissey and easily annoyed.  I think my next step is to hire a lawyer and sue drug testing agency for 9 months salary of a new jersey union fitter.  Having served on jury duty 3 times now i realize lawyers can find expert witnesses on everything somewhere and let the jury and judge sort it out. 

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Ashley c, Community Member
5/ 8/11 4:03pm

If you or anyone you know has had a false positive drug screen for meth and wasnt using meth at the time. If you are prescribed adderol or any add or adhd medication, than that is what triggered the false result for meth. Myself along with many others have dealt with this very issue and so forth I have typed up a petition that Im sending to the highest offices in order to get something done about this havoc issue. Awareness is the main key and our lives depend on the outcome of drug screens.

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adhd mom, Community Member
8/24/11 4:19pm

bring the prescription to the attention of whoever is arresting you. a valid rx shows that you prescribed the med and a public defender could advise you of your rights.

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lee, Community Member
11/14/12 10:11am

i dont use illegal drugs and this just happened to me yesterday with potential of serious conciquences at todays hearing to get my daughter from her dad that kidnapped her from school over a month ago. if u can send me anything asap u found u could really be a part in saving my daughter.   BTW THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" THANK U FOR SHARING UR EXPERIENCE>

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Bobbie jean, Community Member
1/ 9/13 10:00pm
How can we get evolved with what your doing. We just got custody of our Grandkids because my son used adderal and it came up as meth. CPS says there s nothing wrong in the house but they still want the kids away from him. Thanks bobbie Reply
heatherjo, Community Member
5/ 5/13 6:54pm

hello ..this has recently just happened to me and i have nowhere to turn ..i need help so if anyone can plz respond to this and give me advice on my situation ..i am currently on probation and i am prescribed adderall ...i had took my monthly drug screen on march at the end of the month and it was sent to a lab and i passed ..i then had to go to court on april first to take another drug screen for the judge because i had been prescribed methadone for nueropathy and the judge did not allow this medication to be taken in his county so i was forced to come off the methadone in one month ..i took the test before court and the methadone did not show up i was negative but my prescriptions did come up as i knew they would and showed them my pharmacy paperwork so he did not put me back in jail as when he did when the methadone had come up prior to the month before because my doctor said it would make my condition worsen ..the judge won and i had to stop the methadone...but i was allowed to still take my adderall ..the court released me on april first because i was negative ..they sent me a letter staing they did not take action upon me since i did pass..probation decides to send my urine into the lab and they hav put a warrant out for my arrest claiming that meth had shown up ..i do not use meth and would not jeopardize losing everything over such a drug ..but now i cant seem to get probation to retest my urine screen or call the lab to ask exactly what my level was for the so called meth in my system ..i know there is no possible way that this drug showed up because i do not use meth but i am prescribed adderall ..can u plz give me advice on who to contact ..im losing my life over this and i now im innocent and did nt use meth in any way at all ..i need help and i would also like to sign ur petion ..thank you -heather 

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twyatt, Community Member
11/ 8/13 10:21am

My name is Tony Wyatt and i would love to sign it

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jinajamm, Community Member
2/16/12 12:34am

"Usually they test for "AMPHETAMINES" &"METHAMPHETAMINES" separately."

 

Does this mean if the box next to "amphetamines" is checked on a order for a drug screen, that they are only testing for amphetamines?

 

(what if there is no option on the order slip for methamphetamines, only an option for amphetamines? would that then mean to test for both?

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janerama, Community Member
4/ 1/12 11:41pm

hey there, I am hoping you can answer this for me.....why would someone who is taking adderal/rittilian ue baking soda as well? does it make it last longer, turbo charge the drug or what?......I am not a drug user so I am so totally in the dark....if you can 'splain it to me, it would help me lots....:) thanks

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Bobbie jean, Community Member
1/ 9/13 10:05pm
Our son is going through the same thing. He just lost custody of his kids because of adderal. This is horrible Reply
5150KAT, Community Member
10/28/08 3:14am

Depends on which one you are on.  Adderall is an amphetamine, so is concerta, and ritalin. I dont know how sensitive the tests are, some are really general, some are detailed.  If you use meth, it is a separate result for amphetamines, vs methamphetamines.

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evilangel121178, Community Member
10/ 4/10 5:48pm

but i do know that adderall does show up on a drug test as an amphetimine and have had mixed answers on the possiabilty of it showing up as both amphetimine and also as a methamphetimine. I take 2 diff. types of adderall for a sleep disorder one is a non generic and the other is in genaric form, i have been told that there is a possiablity of the genaric to show as both on a drug test but also no possitive answer just a bunch of mixed answers answers from many people so i finally today called the company that manufactors the adderall and they said to go to the lab for blood test called gc/ms and this test will break down the meds and be able to give me a positive answer. so im gonna make an appointment because i need to know because my medication is the only possiable reason for my urine drug test to be possitive foe both of these things. then i will report back after i get the blood test results with an answer finally.

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Stacey, Community Member
9/ 7/11 1:58am

Depending on what generic Adderall preparation you get from the pharmacy, you can test positive for both meth and amphetamine. The one that contains l. amphetamine will test positive for amphetamine, the one containing d. amphetamine will test positive for both meth and amphetamine. 

Hope this info will help.

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jinajamm, Community Member
2/16/12 12:30am

How do you know this? (I'm not doubting you, you just seem certain of it, like you know for a fact.) Can you please post a link to any information that you got your resources or facts from please? Thank you. I appreciate it very much.

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Deana Heflin, Community Member
10/21/10 8:26pm

Methamphetamine is an ingredient of amphetamine. It is composed of an amphetamine molecule with an additional methyl group, so, naturally, the test results will show a positive result for methamphetamine. Adderall is nothing more than a mixture of d/l-amphetamine. The results  may also show positive for amphetamine.;

 

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shay, Community Member
3/ 3/11 2:28am

I am overl famiiar with this question. Desoxyn is the only ADHD medication that shows up a Methamphetamine and Amphetamine on a drug test. All others show only Amphetamine. It can not be differientialted from street meth. The drug  test actually only shows the metabolites of the presence of these drugs . Not anything is going to show up a Meth, Except Meth and that is Desoxyn. There also is not a generic for Desoxyn and expensive. Most insurance plans do not pay for the item in normal percentages as other meds.

So dont try to cheat the test if you do not take it, cuz it will not work. They will send it off and break it down and if said taking Ritalin or Adderell these drugs do not show up under Meth and Amphet. Only Amphet. Like said Desoxyn show meth. metab's.

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chris327, Community Member
7/25/11 10:24pm

You are absolutely wrong. I have Narcolepsy an d am taking prescription adderal for it and am on probation. I tested positive for meth last week after it was sent to a lab. I have not used meth for over 5 months. Only adderall. Period. Fact. I am going to get locked up tomorrow at 1pm and I am looking at web sites to explain why this is happining and I come accross this posting about how it is not possible to test positive for meth while taking adderall. I dont care if you are a phd or have worked for a testing facility for 50 years. You are as wrong as you could be. I will be in jail for 90 days for having a disorder that requires the use of an amphetamine. You should do some fact checking because something you can believe is that I have things to get in order before I go to jail for this bs and worrying about leaving a posting on this site is not one of my major concerns. It is not even among them until I noticed your uninformed posting.  Sorry, Yes I am really bitter but I am also being 100 % honest.

 

Chris

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Ashley c, Community Member
7/27/11 12:48pm

Chris, I really wished you could have came to this site before now.  Of course we dont go searching for answers until we are dubbed as a meth head when in reality all we were actually trying to do is live a normal life and choke down the meds that help us do so.  What we have been diagnosed with isnt any different than any other condition such as heart failure or diabetes that has to be medically treated in order to live a normal healthy life. But because the medicine we have to take is a stimulant and abused like any other drug we have to deal with the chaos from all the negitivity that controversal people have implied toward the medicine.  If you have read any of my blogs you know by now that your not alone in this havoc predictment.  I dont know 1st hand what state your probation is in or the conditions of such sanction but I can be more informative to you in reguards to how you may have time to help your situation now or non the less in the near future once your placed back on your meds.  Please do not disreguard my reply as a joke nor as an out of time out of luck reply.  There is steps that you can take to prove your not on meth.  They dont tell you this info b/c if your jurisdiction is anything like the one I reside in than money is their only concern.  There is a test that you have to request in order for them to perform it and its only checking for the illegal substance that differenciates  between the 2 amphet, & meth. Its called a GCMS 

Gas chromatography-mass spectrometry -

Applications of GC-MS include drug detection, fire investigation, ... A specific
test positively identifies the actual presence of a particular substance in urine. Please email me or messege me thru here letting me know you recieved this time sensitive reply. angelsinmorn at yahoo dot com 

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Chris, Community Member
10/29/11 11:50am

Can the person who answered this email me some information and your credentials? I am working with someone who had a positive hair follicle screen for methamphetamine and had been on Desoxyn a couple months ago. Her son was removed from her home due to this screen. She denies drug use and there has never been in suspicion of drug use in her history.

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bobby, Community Member
12/ 2/11 4:32pm

ok but did your sample get sent to a lab or was it a on the spot test. I HEAR THEY PUT IT THROUGH ALL KINDS of crap at a lab

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amandaaaron, Community Member
6/10/11 4:22pm

onmy drug screen methamphetamine andi dont touch that crap all itake is adderal

 

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Ashley c, Community Member
6/11/11 3:50pm

Amanda have u read any of my post on this page, A lot of us are aware from personal experience that adderol does indeed show FALSE POSITIVES for methaphetimines on a drug screen. Please inbox me if you are willing to sign my petition in hopes of getting something done due to the negativity such results bring forth upon us in our life. Thanks for sharing your personal experience with us all. There are always some people that believe human error isnt possible, God forbid they find themselves in our predictiment!! Mabey they'll come to believe it then.

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j d gericke, Community Member
9/28/12 5:30pm

I just tested positive for meth and amps while taking nothiing but adderall and vyvance with occational xnax. I am on probation. I took a UA two days ago and it showed nothing at a clinic for my DOT medical card and I dropped today for my PO and was dirty for both amp and meth amp, I really dont get it???

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Samanthab, Community Member
11/29/12 5:04pm

Hello, i'm prescribed amphetimine salts and also clanozopam. I am on probation and I have failed twice for meth. when I know I do not take meth, she believes me. but it is just very irratating. take that shit to the man. ive done my best to recover and this shit is happening to me? its just blahhh well I understand where you are coming from. I told her, send that to the lab because I know I have not been doing meth. well thank you.

                                                  -Samantha

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Drowningrose, Community Member
1/ 8/09 2:15pm

I am currently on probation and give urine samples once a week. I also am taking Adderall.  The drug screen that is used on the samples I submit test for:

1) THC

2) Cocaine

3) Benzodiazapine

4) Opiates

5) OxyContin

6) Amphetamine

7) Meth

 

The Adderall flags both the Amphetamine and Meth test strips.  They had to send my test to a lab for further analysis due to my addamance that I had not consumed any illegal drugs.  My doctor told me that when a person consumes Amphetamines, that the body metabolizes them into Meth Amphetamines.  Being a recovering addict and doctor who treats addicts, I have full confidence in his knowledge on the subject.

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catch 22, Community Member
11/12/09 5:47pm

I too am on adderall and am having the same problem-so much that they are trying to revoc my probation. I have not used meth for almost 3 years but my urine tells a different story. I realize that methamphetine metabolizes ato amphetamine and amphetamine metabolize to amphetamine. They have sent some of my tests to another lab and the results are 5000 nanagrams of meth and 5000nanagrams of amphetamine. I am confused to my eye this would be an unconclusive result-however they tell me this means I am dirty or am abusing my perscription. But by them saying that either I am abusing my perscription this makes me think that what I believe is true. I have been takiing adderall for almost 5 years now and I imagine there's some sort of chemical reisidue built up in my system. I'm not a chemist let alone knowledgable enough to try to defend myself. I just know I have not been using meth for 3 years period. The only time I ever tested clean for meth or amphetamines is when I came off of my medication. I was clean twice according to the test standards,however I cannot leave my life with untreated adhd. I cannot catch myself, let alone hold a job of any sorts. The only way I will give up my adderall is if I am court ordered to do so. Help is what I am asking for.

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TT600, Community Member
1/ 6/10 10:30pm

 I too am having this same problem. I have been back on my adderol for onr year and just failed a drug test for meth! Now my job career is in danger. I went to. ask doc web, and he said "Thats pretty crazy because they can cross react on the test pallate VERY EASILY. That would not stand up in court at all. you obviously are taking an amphetamine and methamphetamine is only different by one methyl group and the test isn't that sensitive anyway. I would talk to a lawyer if they really want to fire you over this, and let them know that you intend to do this". Then he sent "The active ingredient in adderol will show up positive for methamphetamine! They cannot fire you for taking a drug that is perscribed to you"! I hope that this information might help you in some way.

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Tom Lewandowski, Community Member
6/23/10 9:21pm

I'm pretty sure that's backwards...

I'm a Med Tech and recently looked this up due to my taking Adderal. 

 

Our test is a Syva RapidTest d.a.u. which includes Methampletamines (but NOT amphetamines.) It doesn't pick up my Adderal. 

 

The accompnaying test info states that Methamphetamines are metabolized and excreted in the urine as amphetamines. HOWEVER, 10-20% of the Meth is NOT changed to amphetamines and that's what the test will detect.

 

Tom L.  MT(ASCP)

 

 

 

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just Me, Community Member
2/ 5/11 12:24am

since you're a med tech maybe you can answer some questions for me. I'm going to be taking a drug test in a few days. In December I took a few pills of Aderall will they show up in a test now after 2 months? and then there is a question of hydrocodone I have a prescription for it now But i was using it long before I got the prescription will that be something they can check for how much is in your system? I would really appreciate an answer as I am sweating it out over the drug test  thank you

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woweliky, Community Member
1/15/11 12:27pm

you say amphetamines metabolize as meth amphetamines and  a guy in this same forum says its the other way around, which is it

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valynda, Community Member
7/22/13 7:22pm
Hi my name is vinnie my husband is going threw some bs for a drug test he did for his work it hadcame back positive for both as well he is on adderall an has been taking cold sinus meds. The lab guy said it doesn't work for him that the meds are reason for positive result it wnt show as such I've looked up so much info an all says damn near the same answer that it can an does show as amphetamine an methamphetamin it would b nice to prove them wrong if ur doctor actually said what u stated wld it b possible to get his name for a referance in regards to my husband an him keeping his job an proving to dot tht it is not always illegal drugs playing the part I am trying to beat dot so he may stay employed an get out of the problem Reply
twyatt, Community Member
11/ 8/13 10:08am

Thank you very much for that answer to the question so many of us needed to clear up with alot of so called Doctors that get you hooked on there drugs and when they want to get you off there list of pataiences all they have to do is run a false test of the drugs you have in your system ,knowing you have listed adderall as one .SO, they know you will test positive for amphetamines and METH! Now all they have to do is wait for your next appoinment and show you the results and then tell YOU SINCE YOU TESTED FOR METH ,HE WILL NOT TREAT YOU ANYMORE .THEN HE LEAVES THE ROOM TO LET HIS NURSE TO TELL YOU TO LEAVE HIS OFFICE .Thats the end of my true story . Which we all know is a bunch of bull because we are the only one that knows the truth ...we have not TOUCHED THE METH !!!!

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evilangel121178, Community Member
10/ 4/10 5:47pm

there are some brands of ADHD meds that are non-narcotic and will not show up on drug tests. but i do know that adderall does show up on a drug test as an amphetimine and have had mixed answers on the possiabilty of it showing up as both amphetimine and also as a methamphetimine. I take 2 diff. types of adderall for a sleep disorder one is a non generic and the other is in genaric form, i have been told that there is a possiablity of the genaric to show as both on a drug test but also no possitive answer just a bunch of mixed answers answers from many people so i finally today called the company that manufactors the adderall and they said to go to the lab for blood test called gc/ms and this test will break down the meds and be able to give me a positive answer. so im gonna make an appointment because i need to know because my medication is the only possiable reason for my urine drug test to be possitive foe both of these things. then i will report back after i get the blood test results with an answer finally.

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travis berg, Community Member
11/ 4/10 10:23am

 

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Ashley c, Community Member
1/26/11 12:54pm

I was precribed adderol back in november of 2009. I have drug screens once a month, the past 3 months 3 drugscreens have tested positive for meth. I have not touched meth, so the only thing I believe that could have possibly failed me for meth is my adderol. I just got out of jail 2day after a wk of being locked up for just that failing for meth when I dont do it. Howis it that my med adderol showed up for meth. I was almost sent to prison just by being honest and holding my ground when arguing that meth has not been in body to have failed for that. Please believe me when I say I have not touched it. why is this happening and is there any link i can get to informing that it does indeeed show up as meth b/c no lawauthority believes me, they think im not being honest with myslf when i know for fact im i am

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peacock, Community Member
2/11/11 6:11pm

will adderall show as meth on a drug test?

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Ashley c, Community Member
2/17/11 1:50pm

Yes if u read my post right above urs from 1-25-11, I describe how Ive recently been done by the court system due to falsely failed drug screens. I dont know exactly why Adderol is indeed showing up as meth on a drug test but im living proof that it is as well as many others that has dealt with this same issue. I mean there is people out there that is losing their jobs, going to jail, and not to mention just flat out embarrased from the false results. Im still on a hard core mission in researching any and all info I can to give and make some kind of sense out of this havoc issue. Of course I feel as if the legal system could care less about  determining why it is or believeing it truly is false results b/c a failed drug test to them means more money in their pockets, so its almost lik fighting a losing battle. Now if adderol wasnt a behavioral medicine I might could understand them not having any concern to how it falsely failing for meth would effect the average joe. But a person that has been diagnosed with adhd with out a doubt needs this medication in order to lead a normal life. And so forth, its like a slap in the face when whosoever conducts a drug screen and determines it to be a positive screen for meth w/o considering the adderol the subject has been prescribed treating behavior issues. Exspecially if that subject is found guilty and punished for the falsely failed drug screen. I pray there is someone out there reading or is made aware of this life destroying fact who has some authority and does something/anything to establish why its shows up, how it can be fixed, and most certainly put an end to the ones who hold office within criminal law who are taking advantage of the situration by getting rich off the ones who are in drug court, court refferals, or on probation. Im sure there is people out there that abuses this medication, b/c for every drug theres abusers but in the case were a person clinically needs it, well in my opinion they shouldnt be treated any different than someone who has to take insulin or heart meds in order to stay alive, So yes ADDEROL shows on (a) Drug Screen as AMPHETAMINES and METHPHETAMINES. Ive found information informing of a certain test that has to be conducted in order to determine that it is not Meth. So I guess in reality its up to the test conductor to have the final judgement and say on whether or not you are a METH HEAD or somebody thats just trying to live as normal as you can even if it takes a medication to help you do that. 

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panzer420, Community Member
2/15/11 9:27pm

can adderall show up on a drug screen? and what will it show up as? cocaine?

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Ashley c, Community Member
2/28/11 10:20am

If you or anyone you know has had a false positive drug screen for meth and wasnt using meth at the time. If you are prescribed adderol, than that is what triggered the false result for meth. Myself along with many others have dealt with this very issue and so forth I have typed up a petition that Im sending to the highest offices in order to get something done about this havoc issue. Awareness is the main key and our lives depend on the outcome of drug screens. 

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trophymommy, Community Member
3/ 8/12 11:41pm

send me a link to your petition. I will happily sign it. I too have tested positive for meth and have not touched the shit in 5 years. I am prescribed adderral  and was horrified when my probation officer showed me the positive test strip! I am lucky she is giving me the benefit of the doubt and sent it off to the lab but legally I could have gone straight to jail. This is a very real serious problem that needs to be addressed immediately. 

 

 

 

 

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Ashley c, Community Member
3/19/12 10:47am
Trophymom, I am so sorry for the delay in my response to your post, I hope Im not to late. Believe it or not the same test that are ran on ur urine in any drug testing enviroment where ever performed will detect the same substance, making the results no different than the original. With that said, reguardless of it being sent to a lab its not gonna come back in your favor unless a certain test is performed on the medication that you take that triggered the false positive up against the street drug metabolites itself. The test im referring to is called a Gcms test. Its a send out from a send out in your case. It has to be solely requested from you when the test result is positive, it is helpful to confirm it with gas-chromatography mass spectrometry (GC-MS). In some cases, a test will register a false positive. This can result from interfering factors such as some foods, prescription medications, and other drugs. The GC-MS will help tell the difference between a false positive or a true positive, resulting from the presence of an illegal drug. Reply
shay, Community Member
3/ 3/11 2:36am

Desoxyn is the only adhd med that will show meth and amphetamine. All others show only amphetamine. The test actually only shows metabolites and actually note specifically meth or amphet, even though the card does print these names on the drug present labeling. Do not try to say taking Adderell or Ritaline is taking a test. They do not show meth. Desoxyn is meth and meth will only show meth.

They will send off and break down on a heat chanber test so dont risk talking or saying something and find you take the wrong durg if doing for this reason.

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Ashley c, Community Member
3/ 3/11 12:21pm

Hello shay we cross paths once again just a different post. Okay on the other post I reasoned with you somewhat on false triggers for meth, but now your really just stepping on my toes here. I dont mean to be ugly but REALLY? I gathered from previous post (hair strand) that you worked in some sort of field related to drug screening and that you yourself has been diagnosed with adhd, right? If Im wrong here please call me out b/c I have no problem doing just that when it comes to such a personal and life destroying issue such as this one. I dont care what your medical books taught you or what you were trained to believe b/c at this point we are well past that. But for you to come here and post what you believe to be hard facts I believe thats just what they ought to be is hard facts and honestly you need to do more research b/c alot of people just like myself come here for answers. And when (A) you yourself has not tested and failed for meth when you know good and well youve not ingested nothing more than a medicine that was prescribed to you in order for you to live a normal life or (B) have some hard medical facts explaining why adderol does in deed trigger false positives for METH, than really all your doing is making a mockery out of us individules who came here looking for help who is actually the true hard facts that it happens. Shay you might as well be slapping us in the face b/c thats all it is when someone goes looking for answers and they read post like yours that clearly states "Only Meth Fails for Meth", Even the experts show some compassion even if they cant answer why and how. At least they take into consideration. I didnt come here for you or anybody else to tell me that adderol CANT fail for METH on a drug screen, b/c I already know that it DOES. I came here to find out WHY and HOW. Again I appoligize if I come off as being ugly, I just want to help and bring awareness to the people who come here looking for things to make sence. So in the future would you try and put your trainings aside and consider that we are human beings and 9 out of 10 of us wouldnt be here searching for answers if we didnt need them that also goes for us even pouring out our souls and trusting that someone somewhere just might be able to give us what we are looking for and thats the knowledge in which we will be able to regain OUR LIVES BACK. I know it isnt easy believing what you cant see but with faith and hope we can at least trust the persons believe in thier self. Then maybe the answers will come to us all. Im sure I could find better things to do than to be sitting here jacking my jaws to someone who I know could careless, so there forth we are here for a reason please trust THAT.

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twyatt, Community Member
11/ 8/13 1:08pm

Hello Shay, SOUNDS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT .would you mind sharing a little about your info and how you came about it ,so, some of us that is accused of using meth and are not ,can prove our case to our DOCTORS that has gotten the wrong idea about us .Say that they are giving out this info.about a little infant chil who's life or death depended on there decision .Do you think for one minute that they would not hesitate one minute must lease months and years to get there results right.This decision is hurting adults and teenage kids also when they apply for a job or schooling that require a drug screen to be approved for college funds and entry .SO THEY ARE JUST GOING TO LET THEM SLIDE UNDER THE CARPET BECAUSE THEY THINK IT JUST ONE VOICE AND WILL NOT BE HEARD .IT'S TIME THAT WE GET TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN GET REFORM ON THIS DRUG BECAUSE THEY ARE THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS OF US THAT HAS BEEN DENIED SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAILED TO GET IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAILED A DRUG TEST BECAUSE THEY ACCUSE US OF USING METH...YES METH.....JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE FACTS ABOUT THE DRUG AND HOW IT REACTS IN OUR BODIES ....THANK YOU FOR READING THIS .I JUST HAD TO LET OFF SOME STEAM BECAUSE I WAS JUST TOLD THAT I CHECKED POSITIVE FOR IT (meth) and i along only know the truth ,BUT NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO ME AND BELIEVE THAT I AM INNOCENT . I AM GOING TO MY FAITH THAT SOMETHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE MY DOCTOR HAS TURNED ME AWAY FROM SOME OF THE MOST MEDICINES THAT I WAS RELYING ON THAT HE REFUSED TO GIVE ME BECAUSE OF THIS.HE DID GIVE ME A TEN DAY REFILL ON MY PAIN MEDS.UNTIL I COULD FIND ME ANOTHER PAIN MANAGEMENT DOCTOR.  I HOPE AND PRAY THAT SOMEONE OUT THERE WILL BELIEVE IN US JUST ONE TIME AND HELP US OUT .I WAS SITTING HERE LAST NIGHT JUST THINKING HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THERE OWN LIVES BECAUSE OF THIS ? MY APPOINTMENT WAS AT 3:00 ON 11/07/13 THE NURSE WAS VERY NICE AND TOOK ME IN THE ROOM LIKE ALWAYS ,NOTHING UNUSUALLY WAS GOING ON WITH HER EXCEPT SHE LEFT THE ROOM VERY FAST .THEN THE DR. came in right after .Ask me about my pain level now(7) and after i took it in about 5 to 6 hours  (9) then he gave me two pieces of paper to read and just as i started to read this long interpatation of these drugs he pops up and said ...THAT SINCE I CHECKED POSITIVE FOR METH THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE MY DOCTOR ANYMORE AND THAT WAS THAT.I don't wish no harm or pain on anyone espeacially no children ,but do you think he would have just rolled over and said thats ,that if it was his child ,HELL NO! He would have fought to the end of the world for his child,when his child would be in his arms saying Daddy please help me i am hurting real bad ,Daddy please help me as the tears roll down from his childs face .THIS REMINDS ME OF WHEN I WENT TO MY FIRST DRS. APPOINTMENT .IT WAS JUST BEFORE THEY WERE CLOSING FOR THE HOLIDAYS.THEY TREATED VERY WELL ,BUT THEY MIS DIANOSED ME SINCE I COULD STAND ON ONE FOOT ,BEND DOWN, RAISE MY LEGS UP .THEY ASK ME ABOUT MY PAIN LEVEL AT THAT TIME AND I TOLD THEM THAT MY NECK HURT AND MY FINGERS GOT NUMB AND LEFT ARM WENT NUMB SOMETIMES .WELL THEY ABOUT HAD ALL THINGS TURNED OFF BY THEN ,SO, THE DOCTOR SAID TO ME WAS ...SEEMS TO ME YOUR IN GREAT HEALTH MR........I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY SENT YOU TO ME .WELL NEEDLESS TO SAY THAT IT DIDN'T TAKE BUT JUST ONE FALL THAT I HAD TOLD THE OTHER DR.ABOUT THAT WOUND ME UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.FROM THAT POINT ON I HAVE BEEN IN AND OUT OF DOCTORS OFFICES EVER SINCE ,THANKS TO ONE DOCTOR THAT TOOK THE TIME TO RUN EVER TEST ON MY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM TO FIND A FEW MAJOR ONES OUT OF WACK. SO, SHE CALLS FOR US TO COME UP TO THE COUNTER FOR A VERDICK ON WHAT WAS GOING ON ,BUT SHE WANTED ME TO HAVE A MRI.... FIRST AND THEN GO.I HAD THE MRI DONE AND TOOK IT WITH US TO THIS NEOSURGEON NAME DR.JOHNSON.BEFORE WE GOT THERE HE WAS ALREADY LOOKING AT THEM FROM THE HOSPITAL.SO WHEN WE GOT THERE HE PUT THE DISK IN HIS COMPUTER AND SHOWED MY WIFE AND I WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ME AND WHY I WAS HAVING SO MUCH PAIN AND WHY I WAS FALLING ALOT.MY SPINAL CORD WAS BEING PINCHED BY TWO OF MY VERTABRA'S AND I NEEDED SURGERY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.MY WIFE ASKED HOW SOON BECAUSE SHE HAD SO MUCH THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE .THE DR.REPLIED IN A VERY SERIOUS WAY,DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT LIST ,A FUNERAL?MY WIFE REPLIED WHO'S...HE REPLIED VERY SIMPLY ,YOUR HUSBANDS.SHE SAID WHAT!THEN I SAID THE SAME THING ! HE TOLD US BOTH THAT IF WE HAD WAITED MUCH LONGER OR IF I GOT HIT IN THE  HEAD JUST ONE TIME THAT IT MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD HAVE KILLED ME. SO ALL YOU DOCTORS OUT THERE EVERYBODY DON'T ALWAYS CRY WOLF!!!! 

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kmkmkm, Community Member
3/ 6/11 9:06am

 

I have a script for Desoxyn. My probation officer is refusing to recognize my prescription as methamphetamines and says the mcgs or msgc proves that I was on street drugs and revoke my probation throwing me in jail.

 

Can a UA tell the difference between Desoxyn and street meth??

 

Is there a DEFINITE way to prove the difference between my script Desoxyn and the street drug???? 

 

Are there any molecules or metabolites or any factor than they can point at and say this was street drug and not desoxyn~ from a UA?

 

I ask in three different ways hoping someone understands and will answer with facts, plz ty

 

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Ashley c, Community Member
3/ 6/11 4:54pm

Demand a hair folllice test!!!!

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Desoxyn_Dude, Community Member
4/ 2/11 10:41pm

"I have a script for Desoxyn. My probation officer is refusing to recognize my prescription as methamphetamines and says the mcgs or msgc proves that I was on street drugs and revoke my probation throwing me in jail.

 

Can a UA tell the difference between Desoxyn and street meth??

Is there a DEFINITE way to prove the difference between my script Desoxyn and the street drug????


Are there any molecules or metabolites or any factor than they can point at and say this was street drug and not desoxyn~ from a UA?

I ask in three different ways hoping someone understandsand will answer with facts, plz ty"

 

I am in a very similar situation with probation.  What your PO is referring to is the quantitiative component - meaning you have a much higher amount of d-meth in your urine than your prescription can cause.  Other than that, I don't know of any isomeric tests that can confirm street meth from Desoxyn, HOWEVER street meth is likely to be variably racemic - meaning L and D isomers, whereas Desoxyn may have a known range of D.

 

One tip: the day before your UA, mega-dose on Vitamin C (I take 1500mg a few times a day).  This makes your urine acidic, and you piss out like 80% of the metabolites and drug.

 

The day of the test, take about 3 tablespoons of baking soda in about a pint or half pint of water.  Drink it - it'll taste horrible and give you the runs, BUT it will make your urine alkaline (but not TOO alkaline).  Urine at pH of about 8-9 will contain less than 4% of the meth and metabolites (studies show only 1%).

 

This trick will help you stay within the range of the expected amount of meth in urine.

 

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stelli, Community Member
1/30/14 11:11am

Your PO is wrong.  I too am a po.  Desoxyn is the ONLY drug that tests positive for meth because it is meth.  You should fight that drug screen

 

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Ashley c, Community Member
3/11/14 10:38pm
I'd give anything for just one of you Po's, judges, or cps workers to be a Ginny pig and just take one adderal then take a drug test & see whose laughing then bc I grant you won't be laughing when it shows meth in you specimen lol Reply
douche2, Community Member
5/ 4/11 7:35pm

I received a prescription for desoxyn a few years back for hypersomnia and wah shocked when i picked up at pharmacy and label read Methamphetamine generic for desoxyn.

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griffis, Community Member
7/25/12 6:09am

you are receiving incorrect information. until recently, i was on local probation for a minor misdemnor charge. during a routine check-in visit with my probation officer, i was asked to submit to a drug test. i complied without any concern yet tested positive for methamphetamine and arressted for viloating my probation. after speaking to the supervisor, my physician and pharmacist verified i was being treated for adult add and receiving adderrall which has the identical chemical marker's as the illegal methamphetamine. only then was i released from custody.

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griffis, Community Member
7/25/12 6:09am

you are receiving incorrect information. until recently, i was on local probation for a minor misdemnor charge. during a routine check-in visit with my probation officer, i was asked to submit to a drug test. i complied without any concern yet tested positive for methamphetamine and arressted for viloating my probation. after speaking to the supervisor, my physician and pharmacist verified i was being treated for adult add and receiving adderrall which has the identical chemical marker's as the illegal methamphetamine. only then was i released from custody.

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OCD DUDE, Community Member
1/12/13 7:28am

I have read hundreds of studies on amphetamine, Adderall XR and hundreds of post and I believe someone on this page touch of something I came across trying to understand how my GC/MS urine test was positive for meth and amp. I was pist because I had not used meth in 7 months and Adderall for only 2 months (25mg). I had a hair test done with a LC/MS/MS and it showed amp only. --SPECIAL NOTE--

Citalorpam, Lexapro are used for depression, and I found a study that made note of 3 medications that trap D-amp stimulants in the liver. A person may also give the thought that D-meth is also trapped. I believe it made not of 25% was. Look on Wikipedia, under Citalorpam or lexapro very carefully. Or it could be under Adderall. I will find my page I printed and post a link soon, I know how overwhelming probation n court can be. If you have positive test, ask for chain of custody, check PH balance, acidic acid levels BECAUSE HIGH ACIDIC ACID IN STUDIES HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE STIMULANT LEVELS OF ng 5 TIMES HIGHER. Find fault, ask for the test or several, look for fault very hard and you will or maybe able to show some doubt. Harris county Probation was mixing up drug test monthly (32) and this is on the internet. You need to take the Adderall and look online, fight.

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OCD DUDE, Community Member
1/12/13 7:28am

I have read hundreds of studies on amphetamine, Adderall XR and hundreds of post and I believe someone on this page touch of something I came across trying to understand how my GC/MS urine test was positive for meth and amp. I was pist because I had not used meth in 7 months and Adderall for only 2 months (25mg). I had a hair test done with a LC/MS/MS and it showed amp only. --SPECIAL NOTE--

Citalorpam, Lexapro are used for depression, and I found a study that made note of 3 medications that trap D-amp stimulants in the liver. A person may also give the thought that D-meth is also trapped. I believe it made not of 25% was. Look on Wikipedia, under Citalorpam or lexapro very carefully. Or it could be under Adderall. I will find my page I printed and post a link soon, I know how overwhelming probation n court can be. If you have positive test, ask for chain of custody, check PH balance, acidic acid levels BECAUSE HIGH ACIDIC ACID IN STUDIES HAS BEEN SHOWN TO INCREASE STIMULANT LEVELS OF ng 5 TIMES HIGHER. Find fault, ask for the test or several, look for fault very hard and you will or maybe able to show some doubt. Harris county Probation was mixing up drug test monthly (32) and this is on the internet. You need to take the Adderall and look online, fight.

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twyatt, Community Member
11/ 8/13 11:23am

YES ,YES, YES......

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twyatt, Community Member
11/ 8/13 11:24am

YES,YES,YES,......VERY WRONG BUT YES ....WHY I DON'T KNOW

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stelli, Community Member
1/30/14 11:08am

No.  Adderall does NOT test positive for meth.  It will test postive for amphetamines but, if confirmed by the lab, it can tell whether it is street meth or OTC amphetamine.  The ONLY medication for ADHD that tests positive, once broke down, for methaphetamine is Desoxyn, which is methamphetamine. 

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