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Friday, December 12, 2008 Sherry, Community Member, asks

Q: One of my allergy medications, Stahist, is currently unavailable and I'm trying to find a substitue.

I've taken Stahist tabs, manufactured by Magna, for several years.  It has always  helped my congestion, drainage and allergies but now is unavailable.  I'm searching for a substitute. 

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12/15/08 4:08pm

Hi Sherry,

 

Stahist was a combination medication that contained pseudoephedrine, scopoloamine, atropine, chlorpheniramine maleate, and hyoscyamine. It is probably no longer available because of the pseudoephedrine, which has been taken off the market in most areas.

 

You might look into one of the second generation antihistamines that are far superior in most respects to the old cold & allergy medicines like Stahist. Drugs like Claritin, Zyrtec and Allegra work well for controlling allergy symptoms. If nasal congestion is still bad, you can try one of the combination meds that contain a decongestant, such as Claritin-D or Allegra-D.

 

Also, ask your pharmacist, who may be able to tell you of equivalent medications. Finally, any medication decisions should always be made in conjunction with your personal physician who knows you, your health status, and any other medicines you may be taking that could interact in a negative way with allergy medicines.

 

To your health,

Kathi

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Barbie, Community Member
10/25/11 2:21pm

I disagree with Kathi.  I tried Claritin, Zyrtec and Allegra for my chronic sinus drainage caused by allergies.  Claritin was the best, but it stopped being effective after only a few days.  Then a new ENT in my area gave me a script for Stahist.  I loved this medicine, except for the fact that it stopped working after 8 hours.  I only wish that I could have taken it twice daily.  Now the FDA has pulled it from the market due to a need for more research on it (along with 500 other drugs), the FDA says.  As a substitute, I am presently taking Sudafed PE, but I still miss Stahist.

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Kathi MacNaughton, Health Pro
11/ 4/11 6:04pm

Barbie... As I've tried to communicate throughout this site, there is no one best medicine for everyone. Allergy medicine seems to vary in effectiveness from person to person. It's great that you had such good results with Stahist, but there is no denying the fact that medicines in that class often have more side effects than second generation antihistamines like Claritin, Zytec and Allegra.

 

But choosing the right medicine for an allergy sufferer sometimes entails weighing risks of side effects against potential benefits and comfort, so there will always be a market for these "older" meds too, I suppose.

 

Unfortunately, many of the combo meds and the first generation antihistamines are not as available as they once were, and that frustrates people who have come to rely on them. Not a lot we can do about that, however.

 

To your health,

Kathi

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jallen, Community Member
2/10/12 5:29am

I am right there with you. I have found otc stahist. It works quite well. But not as well as the original.

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Barbie, Community Member
2/10/12 7:34am

Since posting, I was retested in my hometown by my original allergist.  She said that if I need 2-3 Stahist daily, a steroid mist would be more effective (and more cost effective).  She was right.  The AstePro she gave me provides better and more instant relief.  The only downside is that it tastes absolutely terrible.  But for the relief, it is worth those 2-3 minutes of discomfort in the mouth.

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Sherri, Community Member
2/19/12 9:35pm

Where did you find the otc stahist? I useing stahist 3 years ago. I have atyipical trigeminal neuragia. part of the "atypical" is chemicals, perfumes and cologne, air freshener, fumes, anything that would just tickle your nose trigger severe pain attacks like nothing I could have ever imagined. I have tried everything out there. The stahist helped control situations that would be "a little tickle" for most. I don't know how, but I didn't care. I am grateful for any relief I can get.  Long story short if there is an otc stahist please let me know.

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jallen, Community Member
2/20/12 1:48am

My Kroger Pharm; I had to ask for it.  Good luck.

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Sherri, Community Member
2/19/12 9:38pm

Where did you find the otc stahist? I useing stahist 3 years ago. I have atyipical trigeminal neuragia. part of the "atypical" is chemicals, perfumes and cologne, air freshener, fumes, anything that would just tickle your nose trigger severe pain attacks like nothing I could have ever imagined. I have tried everything out there. The stahist helped control situations that would be "a little tickle" for most. I don't know how, but I didn't care. I am grateful for any relief I can get.  Long story short if there is an otc stahist please let me know.

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Beans, Community Member
10/12/12 12:58am
Hi Sherri, I just read your comment and it is the first I've heard of trigeminal neuralgia. I've been having sensitivity like you describe and don't know where to go. Did your allergist diagnose you? I've thought about going to a neurologist; would that be the way to go? Any advice is much appreciated. Thank you! Jaime Reply
SCLady, Community Member
3/ 7/12 2:34pm

I have non-allergic asthma (total bummer) and Chlor-mes worked great, then that was removed - switched by Doctor to Stahist about 2 years ago - seemed to do very well also - now that has been stopped - went to get OTC Stahist AD and Walgreen's said that there was a recall on THAT - before I finally went to an Allergist - I had been miserable in the spring-summer & fall for as long as I could remember (50+) finally found out what was wrong - got relief and now they keep stopping the drugs that worked. 

   I too tried Clartin & D/ Allegra & D/ Zytex etc. etc. - nothing really helped - we who like the old drugs need to see if we can put pressure on companies and the FDA to let them be remade for us!!!

SCLady

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troy, Community Member
5/22/09 10:44am

I take stahist and it is still available.  Some doctors won't prescribe it they would rather give you zyrtec or claritan.  But its 5/22/2009 and walgreens still filled my prescription

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sanmc, Community Member
2/14/10 9:32am

I have taken Stahist  daily for over six years and it is the only med. that has stopped my runny nose, sore throats, etc.----I think I had tried every allergy med. on the market-------- yes Walgreens was very good in keeping me supplied, but now Medicare won't allow you to have this drug-----very frustrating!

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jallen, Community Member
2/10/12 5:31am

I have found it at Kroger Pharm. it is over the counter but you have to ask for it.

 

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tommy, Community Member
9/29/11 9:02pm

Hi my name is tommy,I live in tennessee, and you can still get it here, it really works. I don't know if there is a substitute or not, I would ask your doctor!!!!

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Jennifer RN, BSN, Community Member
12/21/11 1:16pm

The reason that Stahist works so well for people with a large amount of sinus drainage is that it contained several medicines called anticholinergics, which essentially "dry up" all the secretions. The antihistamine and decongestant in Stahist are the same as Chlor-Trimeton D (at the pharmacy counter) in a higher dose. However there is no other anticholinergic medicine available on the market. So unfortunately all of us who relied on Stahist to make our lives bearable are basically screwed.

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Mary, Community Member
6/28/12 7:03pm

Hi Sherry

I work for MAGNA Pharmaceuticals. After 54 years of being on the market STAHIST is off the market until the FDA deems it is safe and effective. Imagine that ! No it was not taken off the market due to pseudoephedrine. We hope to have it back soon. In the meantime we have Stahist AD which is PSE and our new drying Chlorcyclizine...many patient prefer it to the old STAHIST. It is available at Walgreens OTC, Kroger OTC, some CVS, Walmart and all the others with prescription. It is 30 pills for around $15...hope that helps you.

Mary 

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Billy, Community Member
7/29/12 1:10am

Sherry, thank you for this information. I suffer from vaso motor rhinitis and Stahist is all that has helped. When do you expect it to be available, and how will we know?

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Billy, Community Member
7/29/12 1:11am

Excuse me, Hi Mary (instead of Hi Sherry); when will Stahist be available and how will we know?

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Mary, Community Member
7/29/12 7:00am

The regular old STAHIST will be available again in about a year. We are working with a company to conduct more clinical trials and thus we have our fingers crossed. When the old STAHIST is back I will notify this site.

 

In the meantime Stahist AD is loved by many patients more that the old. It is now available at any Walgreens or Kroger without a prescription by asking your pharmacist. It is kept behind the pharmacy counter as it contains pseudoephedrine..Thanks.  

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Billy, Community Member
7/29/12 9:14pm

Mary, thank you so much! And, I look forward to learning when the old will be available, as well as trying the AD.

 

Billy

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Mary, Community Member
1/ 4/13 12:42pm

We have a meeting in two weeks, Jan 16th in Washington DC with the FDA to represent STAHIST for a new drug application number. I suspect that will want more clinical trials on this 54 year old drug but will let you know. Thanks

Mary

 

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wayne, Community Member
3/ 7/13 2:20pm

any updates on the 01/16/13 washington d.c. meeting with the FDA?   wayne 

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Mary, Community Member
11/ 9/12 5:14am

Stahist AD is available to without a prescription at Walgreens, Kroger, Rite Aid, Walmart...CVS cannot sell it OTC....it is behind the pharmacy counter due to PSE and if your pharmacy does not have ask them to order...they can get overnight...give them NDC 58407-0625-30...many of the old STAHIST users prefer it to the old ....it works well for myself and my family....

Liz

 

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Patti, Community Member
1/ 4/13 12:35pm

Hi Mary,

 

Is Stahist AD available in liquid form?  I am looking for the chlorcyclizine/pseudo. combo in liquid form.

 

Thank you....Patti

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Sue, Community Member
1/18/13 11:27am

Dear Mary,  Is their someone @ FDA we can contact in support of putting stahist back on the market?  I have low immunity level issues and the newer antihistamines do not work for me.  I am an Rn & find it hard to work with patients with a constant runny nose.  Stahist is the only thing that work.  Thanks, Sue

 

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Sarah Turner, Community Member
3/28/13 9:46am

Is there an update on the Stahist situation?  I consider that my miracle drug.  My doctor subbed Flo something for it and it is absolutely no good.  I couldn't even tell I had taken it. From all of the responses I read on the previous page, Claritin and others like it aren't really that good.

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Gayle, Community Member
3/29/13 2:21pm

I just spoke with someone at Magna. She said they are trying to get the prescription formula back on the market, but it won't be any time soon.  I asked if it might be in the next year and she said it could be longer than that.  Unfortunate, because the non-prescription Stahist AD is worthless.  Might as well not even take it.

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Sarah Turner, Community Member
3/29/13 2:26pm

Thanks for the reply and the advise.  My pharmacist switched it over to Flo-Hist and it's practically worthless also.  A total waste of my money.

 

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