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Q: How do I talk with my Dad about his memory issue? And convince him he needs help?

I'm 31 and my fathers only child, my father is 75, I'm not close to him. I received a call today from my cousin and his best friend expressing concern about his memory and behavior. He is making irrational decisions buying things he don't have the money to buy. He is about to lose everything including his business which isnt making any money in the first place and he thinks he can still work. He can barely drive safely. My fiancé and I are planning on going to see him soon to talk to him but I don't know how to talk to him about this. He lives on the same property he grew up on and his sister lives on the property but the property was put up for collateral for his business and he's in danger of losing it. I don't think he's paying his bills correctly according to his best friend who told me what he's been doing with his finances. I need him to let me look at all of this before its too late and the bank takes it all and he has nothing. My dad has always as far as I can remember had an memory issue but its progressed really fast in the few months according to his best friend. I need some advice. How to talk to him about his memory, his bills, and his poor decisions? Oh yeah and the fact that his wife isnt coming back and he needs to divorce her Thank you
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Dorian Martin, Health Guide
3/31/13 7:26pm

Hi, Jillian,

 

I think everyone has provided you with very wise answers. In our case, our family tried multiple ways to Mom to deal with her memory issues. I was the one who calmly reasoned with her to get tested about her memory issues and once we had a date for the battery of tests, my brother came down so we both could provide support to her. Driving was particularly difficult. I turned to Mom's beloved pulmonologist, asking him to write a letter so I could wave it in front of her whenever she tried to grab her keys. She wasn't happy about it, but loved that doctor so much that she didn't drive.

 

Mom also had other health issues - chronic obstructive pulmonary disease -- that sent her to the hospital quite often. When I started seeing some really radical behavior, I talked to the EMTs and asked them to talk to the emergency room doctor about getting her a geriatric psychiatric evaluation. That was how we finally got the diagnosis -- and how Mom was ultimately placed in a nursing home in a locked Alzheimer's unit.

 

So I'd suggest pulling out the stops, going to the people he respects (a doctor, a minister) to see their help, and also seeking out social workers and the area council on aging where your father lives.

 

Hang in there! And keep us posted!

 

Dorian

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3/29/13 11:51pm

Hello. You do have a lot to think about. Perhaps check into the social services in his area to see what kinds of support systems there are for people in your father's financial and physical condition. Knowing what's available will help assist with deciding how to approach the issues you will be approaching with your father. He might not be as oblivious as others think he is about his situation; fear might be causing him to clutch to the status quo, even though that is no longer possible. We all fear failure, change, and the loss of our mental and other powers, and your father seems to be on the verge of having to face all of these issues at once. People in agencies for elders in his local area will help you figure out where to begin, and how.

 

In my mother's case, it was relatively easy (surprising to see, but undeniable): she had a seizure while surrounded by family at a holiday meal. The gig was up. The Alzheimer's diagnosis came within two months of her seizure. She was visiting, anyway, and so not driving.  It was easy to say to her "Do you really think you should be driving, if you could have a seizure when doing so?" Appealing to her sense of ethics - thinking of other drivers - worked on her. And once there would be no car, it meant the closing down of all of her activities, even down to getting her mail, because of her rural location.

 

Others will come here to make good suggestions. Hang in there with this site, check out its search function, and you'll find some good advice will come your way.

 

Best wishes with your situation.

CJ

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3/30/13 12:59am

Jillian,

 

I am so sorry that Dad is losing his house and etc. I don't know his stage but it could be moderate stage if he could not handle the bills and business. Who is taking care of his finance so far? Him? Do you have any way to get info. from his house such as the bills and etc.? You have to take over. He needs to give you POA for finances as well as medical/health directive. Living will and etc. He also needs to be diagnosed by a specialist. About taking to him, you need to be tricky. It depends on his attitude. More likely he will deny it and blame other people (the wife, the companies and others.) If you can, it is best you just take over all the bills and pay them first or handle them first without talking to Dad about it in details. At this point, details are not good to Dad, and you need to deal with the finances for Dad ASAP before he loses everything.

I don't think you can convince him that he needs help in a bigger picture. However, you can convince him in a small way that you need to pay the bills for him and etc. He will deny that he has dementia (diagnosed or not.) You need to find help for him - get a caregiver from a home care agency or move him to be near you (in an AL or your home.) You need to handle his business first. Talking to him will not help at all. I suspect his wife left because she could not handle it.

Talk to a social worker about this. If Dad is losing business and all, check to see if he could have Medicaid which can cover his health issues and nursing home if needed.

I am so sorry you are caught in the middle now. It could have been dealth with much earlier.

I would ask Dad for permission to see his office or desk for his financial stuff, and them deal with them quicklly. But you need to be his duralbe POA to do this efficiently. In the mean time, pay for the bills online if possible. Get your name joined in his bank account. Do it for him quickly. He can no longer do it himself.

I don't know about his business, but talk to his friends about it to see what is going on and if you can help it.

Good luck!

 

Hugs,

NC

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Carol Bradley Bursack, Health Guide
3/30/13 7:03am

Hi Jillian,

I just read Nina's answer to you and I want to endorse what she said. She's very wise and I believe she hit the nail on the head with her advice. Please try to do what you can in small, non threatening ways.

 

His best friend may get farther in talking with him about giving you POA than you can. Often, non-family members aren't resented as much for "interfering."

Good luck with this tough situation. My heart is with you.

Carol

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AFA Social Services, Health Guide
4/ 2/13 2:45pm

Jillian,

 

It sounds as though there are a number of complex, emotionally laden issues at hand, each of which seems urgent and time sensitive.  It may be useful to try to break down and prioritize the steps of what needs to happen.  I would suggest addressing the issues in the following way:

1)      Alzheimer’s Evaluation

2)      Driving Issues

3)      Financial and Legal Issues

 

Alzheimer’s  Evaluation

Given the fact that your father is showing several signs of Alzheimer’s disease or a related dementia (poor judgment, difficulty with complex mental tasks such as paying bills or managing his business and memory problems) it would be important for him to have a proper evaluation.  Broaching the subject of Alzheimer’s disease can be a complex and challenging process. You may want to start out by providing reassurance or support.  Try saying, “I understand you have had some forgetfulness in the last few weeks. I care so much about you and want to make sure that you are well. How about we make an appointment with the doctor, just to get it checked out? Don’t worry, I will be by your side the whole time.” Alternately, if your father still has some of his reasoning capabilities intact you may want to try the following approach: Consider sharing with him that sometimes symptoms that appear to look like dementia can be attributed to other medical conditions (thyroid imbalances, vitamin deficiencies, urinary tract infections, medication interactions or side effects, etc.), which may be reversible.  If he still has some ability to think rationally, you may be able to get him on board with going to the doctor to test for the potentially treatable conditions.

 

Also, you may want to consult with your dad’s sister and friend about what they think the best strategy is for getting him to the doctor.  In some families, it is difficult for a parent to engage in this kind of a conversation with a child, but may be more open to discussing it with a peer (i.e. a sibling or friend).  Alternately, some individuals may be more likely to follow the advice of a person in authority (i.e. a doctor or clergy member).  If this is the case, you may want to reach out to your father’s doctor and provide information about the changes in his behavior and request that the doctor reach out to your father and request an appointment.

 

Driving

Driving represents a sense of independence so it is challenging to take away an older adult’s keys.  It  is important to note that in most cases it is not safe for an individual with overt symptoms of Alzheimer’s disease to drive. First, operating a vehicle safely entails dozens of smalls steps, any one of which a person with Alzheimer’s disease can forget and put himself and others in harm’s way. Second, your father is at risk for getting lost since confusion or disorientation in familiar places is a common symptom of Alzheimer’s disease.  Given your description of your father’s impaired judgment, he will most likely be unable to participate in a discussion about the risks of his driving.  Consider bypassing the need to convince your father to stop driving, and focus your energy on simply stopping the risky behavior.  This might include asking the doctor for a “prescription” that advises your father that driving must be stopped. Similarly, many police departments or motor vehicle departments offer a driving assessment program,, which will take away a license if the participant is too impaired to pass the assessment.  If these interventions do not stop your dad from driving, you may want to consider hiding or removing keys to the car, dismantling certain features of the car engine system so it is inoperable, or removing the car entirely.

 

Financial and Legal Issues

Given the complexity of your father’s financial and business situation, I would encourage you to consult with an elder law attorney, a lawyer that specializes in issues relating to the older adult population (i.e. guardianship, power of attorney, estate planning, benefits enrollment, etc.).  Power of attorney laws vary from state to state, and each type of legal document requires a certain level of decision making ability.  If your father has not yet signed power of attorney paperwork an elder law attorney can help pinpoint what level of legal capacity is required for signing such documents.  Additionally, if your father is deemed incapacitated and unable to sign power of attorney paperwork, an elder law attorney can advise you on guardianship issues.   Often, having an neutral outsider can help diffuse the resistance and difficult emotions that can arise during the process of handing over control of finances to a child.   An elder law attorney may also be able to assist you and your father with his divorce as it relates to an Alzheimer’s disease diagnosis.  Elder law attorneys can be found in the local phonebook, or on the Web site of the National Association of Elder Law Attorneys www.naela.org.  The American Bar Association can provide referrals to local groups in each state www.abanet.org.  In addition, can visit the web site for the National Legal Resource Center at www.nlrc.aoa.gov

 

Sincerely,

 

The AFA Social Services Team

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By Jillian— Last Modified: 04/02/13, First Published: 03/29/13