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Tuesday, May 26, 2009 at 08:58 PM -
Bipolar has 2 poles
tabby
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 11:54 AMYou focus on your depression and glad that you can manage your depression symptoms as well as you claim you do, which by the way you still admit to having so... you haven't fully recovered from. Yet, what you practice is what is commonly taught in many therapeutic modules ie., CBT, DBT, etc.. - mindfulness, offsetting negative with positive, not judging the emotion just allowing it to be an emotion, etc..
In that Bipolar has 2 poles, otherwise it would all be Unipolar and thereby, no Bipolar - how do you manage your manic phases of your Bipolar illness?
In that you are not a doctor, psychiatrist, or a professional of any sort and can only share how you yourself deal with your individual Bipolar illness... would you share how you manage your manic/mania/hypomanic symptoms especially without medications?
See there are a lot of folks who claim to be "recovered from" Bipolar who share their coping strategies here. Most come to sell a program they developed, program they bought themselves, supplements they just insist are the answer, or try to convert everyone to their religious beliefs.
ALL tout their recovery from depression and recovery from depression is a feat for which needs to be said and being that I am one who struggles primarily with suicidal depressions, it is something I find most interesting. However, in that I have Bipolar - I also have another side, another pole as it were - I have mania or Mixed Mania, that is high mania with low depression at the exact same time most of the time when my Bipolar is most debilitating.
So, in that you label yourself here as "recovered from" which means you have returned to a normal healthy state of being, cured, healed from - it would be nice if you could share your strategies for dealing with the mania/manic side of the illness. How do you deal with your "soaring" side or hypomanic side if you have lessor forms of the illness? Because my life can be altered by either side at anytime.
re: Bipolar has 2 poles
dodgyomni
Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 02:55 PMTabby,
I thank you for your response, and do agree that "recovered from" could be a misleading statement, but by that I mean that depression is no longer the dominiant emotion in my life. I further don't believe that having a life without depressed/sad feeling would be idealic or realisitic, and I do believe there is legitimate reasons for having a spectrum of emotions.
In regards to manic periods. Well, honesty I have always been a bit of an energizer bunny, and I am primarily manic with sometimes prolonged and deep depressive phases. (Though through the methods I explained previous these phases of depression have become fewer and further in between, and more situationally motivated, that is more "reasonable" emotional responses to external stimuli) I, personally enjoy my manic moods, I just channel them into actions that benefit myself, trying to keep them constructive. For example, my job is dispatching vehicles for Paratransit, so I use my vast energy reserves to keep track of vehicular resources, answer phones, communicate with our drivers via radio. I'm lucky that I have a fast paced job that allows me to keep both a big picture in my head while using my energy in being scatter-brained keeping track of individual variables. And when not at work, I try to do things at home that keep me happy/content, like cleaning my living space, gardening, and hanging out with my cat.(whom I probably talk to more than is healthy, haha)
I was always told by my parents growing up to set goals and work toward them. I unfortunately never did and was often crushed with feelings of purposelessness, and a sense of not having direction. As I got older these feelings lent themselves to severe depression, especially when alone. But I have made the effort to actively work toward having goals and meeting them. I've have found that goals help me dispel depression by being able to affirm to myself that I am "doing things" and gives me a place to channel my manic energy into.
Now to risk myself becoming one of those "preachy" people you spoke of, I have also found philosophy to be a deeply satisfying persuit, especially when I'm feeling less than with it. A lot of people debunk it, but I have found objectivist philosophy to be the most congruent with my beliefs and lends personal responsibililty to my emotional state, which lets me keep perspective that it's not hopeless if I don't let it be.
I hope you were able to get something out of that!
Most Sincerely, 22 male in California
re: re: Bipolar has 2 poles
tabby
Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 10:38 PMI wasn't necessarily infering that you were being "preachy" but quite a few folks do come here with cures, conversions, alternate therapy sales, etc... and all focus solely on the depressive side. They all label themselves as "recovered from" and well... in that the illness has 2 sides, no one really focuses on how they manage their "upper" side of the illness.
From your description of your illness, because Bipolar is different to each individual, it seems yours is more depressive than manic whereas others are more manic than depressive.
My take on all this is and I'm 42.5 years:
Bipolar is not something you truly "recover from". You can have long periods of stability depending on several factors, one being the type of Bipolar you struggle with and another is how you look at the disorder.
If you see it as disabling, then likely you will be disabled by it. If you look at it as a part of life that is included but not have your life consumed by it, then you will more likely develop positive means to manage your respective symptoms and episodic flares.
In either regard, you must accept it as being truth - seek help when need arises - accept help that is offered - and learn learn learn while practicing practicing practicing what you've learned.
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axis74
Thursday, November 19, 2009 at 12:29 PMThanks dodgyomni, that was probably some of the best bipolar depression info I've heard since I was diagnosed 3 months ago. It hard for me to believe I will have to stay on medications my entire life. Even with medication i still dont feel good. Anyway, I have 3 friends that were once diagnosed bipolar and on meds get off meds and say they're living a completely normal life. If biplar is a life long illness, then how could these people possibly be without their medications and still be functional members of society. At this point I dont know who to believe, doctors that say its life long, or my friends who are living proof one can overcome bipolar.
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Actually i'm bipolar nos (I don't get depressed, only hypomanic, manic or mixed. But I have a son and a male friend who can benefit from your insite. I'm going to print this out for them and hand them a copy when appropriate. You have more insight and self discipline than some 50 year olds.