Please help. I'm new to this share post thing but I am in dire need of support. I have been married 17 years to my husband who has only been diagnosed with BP within the 4 years. I'll try to make a very long miserable story short...where do I start? Lets see, multiple affairs, lost 3 consecutive j...
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freeda
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 02:56 AMre: :hug:
hopeless
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 03:01 AMSometimes I can convince him that he needs help (a different med). This time however, I can't seem to get through to him. I'm just a bitch...it's all my fault. I'm very mean to him...show him no respect. Same story, different day
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freeda
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 03:22 AMHonestly hun, I think you should go to some individual counseling and figure out what you want for yourself and your child. (I do have a biased opinion.) I know it's hard to leave someone who has a medical issue.
My ex-husband has a brain tumor and brain damage that impair his personality and has him on a lot of the same meds as people here! But in the end it boiled down to the life I had with him just plain wasn't good enough. I didn't want my daughter growing up in a volatile, unpredictable environment. I wanted a man who could be faithful, and a good provider. The infidelity, instability, abuse, etc... it wasn't the way I wanted my daughter to think of as "normal".
Now I have all those good things = a husband who offers me love, stability, fidelity, etc = for myself and my daughter, and my ex, after many years, is getting his own medical/mental issues dealt with.
Starting over was hard. It always is. But it was easier than facing the next 50 years having his disorder rule my life and my daughter's life.
I'm sure some here will think I'm cold, like I should side with the husband since he's bipolar and I'm bipolar, etc. But I think we all have to take ownership of the impact our disorders have on the lives of the people around us. And if that impact is destructive, we have to understand if they need to leave us in order to be healthy themselves.
Sorry for going on.... it's something I feel strongly about and I feel for you.
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hopeless
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 04:48 AMI THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN. THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION THAT IM DEALING WITH. THE REASON I'VE BEEN WITH HIM FOR SOOOO LONG IS, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL FAMILY. ITS JUST ME AND HIM AND OUR SON. ITS THE ONLY FAMILY MY CHILD HAS AND TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM HIM WOULD BE TRAGIC. I'VE BEEN ENDURING THIS HELL JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MY CHILD. DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE IS A SORRY EXCUSE FOR A HUSBAND...HE IS A VERY GOOD FATHER! OOH GOD, I AM SO MISERABLE I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO.
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tabby
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 06:18 AMyou say you are only staying because of your child and taking away his family would be tragic - okay, so let me ask a couple of questions:
how tragic is it going to be when your son grows up and starts mimicking the behavior or his father because that is how he was raised or how he saw his mom treated?
how tragic is it going to be when your son is sitting in a therapist's chair having troubles with his marriage or better yet, self-medicating to ease life's stressors cause he has a warped sense of coping mechanisms?
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you, exhibiting high levels of stress and let's face it - staying for the sake of your son's welfare in a home where you are miserable and dad is totally off (I have Bipolar) without a care - is a piece of crock. It's because you are afraid of the unknown possibility that you & your son will be on your own.
There is absolutely nothing you can do to make this situation any better for the 2 of you while your husband uses his illness as an excuse for behavior that through proper treatment can reduce and/or relieve his symptoms. HE HAS TO DO IT!
YOU have to stop allowing him to use his illness as an excuse for behavior that through proper treatment can reduce and/or relieve his symptoms.
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Staying for the kids.
Hopeful mom
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 06:45 AMMy sister learned her husband had been cheating after 7 years of marriage. She decided to "stay for the kids". They worked it out and stayed together for 3 more years. Until she found a cell phone bill that showed him calling and texting the same woman about 5 times per day. Then she had to decide whether to just close her eyes and let him keep doing it, or get out. She chose to get out. Now she'll tell you that divorce sucks and to avoid it if you can. This man is losing jobs and giving away money for sex. He's not apologetic and calls you "the bitch". He can still be a father to your son whether or not you two are married. My sister's divorce attorney told her that she was entitled to half of any money her ex spent on women. If you have proof he's spending money on women, you can get half of it.
Leave him now and save your self-respect. A man who cheats once and is sorry may be worth keeping. A man who makes a habit of it and blames you, isn't.
Good luck to you.
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Your responsibility in this
HeyJude
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 07:45 AMYou cannot hold yourself personally responsible in any way regarding his mental health/wellness. How stressful you life must be right now. Freeda and Hopeful Mom offer some very good insights into a very difficult problem.
The man needs to take responsibility for his illness/wellness. There's no way you can do that for him. Give him an untimatum - get some real help or get out. At least that's what I would do. Nobody should have to live this way. You must love him very much to have stayed with him this long.
Tell him to find a support group. Go with him to doctor visits - he may be sabbotaging the doc and himself, which gets in the way of getting well.
God bless you - please take care of YOU. You will find the right path.
Judy
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orrb4
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 11:08 AMDear Hopeless,
I am both bipolar, and the survivor of an traumatic relationship with an abusive alcoholic spouse (MANY years ago). I am also a Psychiatric RN and addictions counselor.
My first statement to anyone who reports a situation such as yours is....
Take a deep breath. Every misdeed, every affair, betrayal, lie, theft or mistreatment has been done already. Take a deep breath. You cannot undo your own past. Take a deep breath. You can not control his behavior; past, present or future.
Ok, so its not your fault. Now take another deep breath. Say, out loud, either that this IS the life you want, or it is NOT. Take a deep breath. You cannot choose what has happened to you in the past, you cannot choose what will happen to him in the future, but you CAN choose what you will tolerate, and what actions YOU will take.
So take another deep breath. Pick one, and say it out loud. either I choose to live this way......or I choose to start my life on a different path. Take one long last deep breath, and repeat that statement, whichever it is.
Now. Where do you want to go, or stay, from this point onward? Which of your own behaviors are you willing to change, however frightening that might be, in order to alter your situation? Help is out there.
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hopeless
Saturday, June 14, 2008 at 07:36 PMI am so glad to speak with someone with psychiatric training. How do you get someone to listen to you when they are clearly manic and out of control. Everytime I approach him, its always my fault for every little thing that goes wrong no matter what. When I try to tell him he is cycling in and out of mania, he responds by saying...I can't express my feelings,why are you so mean to me. He just went to the doctor the other day and when the doc asked how he was doing (clearly in full mania) he responded by saying he was having problems with his wife being out of control. Luckly the doctor saw right through this and doubled his meds! So my response is...if I'm the problem,why is HE swallowing the pills!!! Any insight would be appreciated.
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orrb4
Monday, June 16, 2008 at 05:53 AMWhether or not he takes his medication, doesn't take, it is manic, depressed, or in any other mood state, for as long as you choose to live in that situation, it seems you should be asking yourself what is REALLY your reason for staying ?
His crazy behavior may be the result of his illness. What would you attribute your choice to stay and put up with it to?
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Honestly….something doesn’t smell right here.
Eric
Monday, June 16, 2008 at 04:51 AMFirst, you haven’t had any trained psychiatric people here giving you advice because any therapist or psychiatrist worth a grain of salt would only be telling you to get into counseling with someone that can get a good read on you with one on one, in person sessions.
Here is my advice even though I am pretty sure you will pay it no attention as you have with Jude, Tabby, Mom, Freeda and Orrb that have already offered good sound advice. It wasn’t your fault in the beginning, but I would have to say after the known affairs, rage fits, money sprees and placing you and your son in harms way for a number of years… now it is, because you continue to stay.
You have allowed this behavior to continue in plain sight of your son. Short answer…you can’t make your husband do anything from taking his medications to his outright arsine behavior with other woman. Do you and your son a favor by packing your stuff and moving out.
My suggestion is if he is truly full blown manic….call 911 the next time he threatens you or your son, have a pick-up and detain order carried out where he will be forced to have a brief stay in an acute mental health unit and while he is there….move out.
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It (the rollercoaster) only ends when he takes responsibility and becomes an active participant in his own recovery, just as with any other condition or addictive behavior.
17 years of this - why are you still married? Honestly, it sounds very destructive, and not a relationship you should tolerate. Whether or not he is able to control these things is debatable, and not within *your* locus of control. If he chooses not to change, or is incapable of change -- is this how you want to live the rest of your life? 17 years is a long time, but you also have a long time ahead of you as well.
Did his behavior change any after he got a diagnosis? Has he been making an effort towards recovery?
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