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Don't know what to do

By chellbel82 Monday, December 17, 2007

I need help! I have a partner with bipolar disorder and things have been aweful recently. Between finances and her disorder we have been fighting constantly. The things she says and does are so horrible that it has set me into a serious depression. I know it's supposed to be the disease talking when she has her rages but there are things that she has said to me that I wouldn't say to even my worst enemy. So I'm sitting here with a dilemma... is it her or is it the disease? And if it is the disease and she can't control it, then how much is a partner supposed to take??

 

I guess I should provide a little more background. She had a terrible childhood (her parents are abusive junkies who are also bipolar), her adolescent years were equally as bad, and before we got together she was living in her car. She had been hospitalized a couple of times for her depression and risky behavior (ie drug overdose). The hopital said that maybe she had bipolar disorder, but they weren't going to look into it any further. I don't know if this was due to her age as she was a minor. They prescribed her antidepressants, that didn't work, and she of course discontinued them.

 

She and I got together and I knew there were issues (her demons as she calls them) that she had but didn't know about her mental history. They became more obvious as time progressed and I asked her if she ever been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. We made her an appointment to see because she couldn't take her head spinning and her rages all of the time. Not to long after, was diagnosed about a year ago with bipolar disorder.

 

We have been on the long road to recovery since, however the only thing she is compliant on is the meds. And even then there are times when she flat out refuses to take them because they aren't helping her. She doesn't see the need to go to a therapist because "they don't work." They are also terribly expensive. She has not held a steady job since she was diagnosed, so we have been really tight on money. As a matter of fact things are so bad that we may even have to forclose on our mortgage soon.

 

She will not go to support groups and has even skipped many pdoc appointments because she didn't feel like going. I would hold her hand and take her to her appts but I have to work 2 jobs right now and it's just not possible. She constantly wants me to call her pdoc to make the appointments and wants me to keep tabs on when she is supposed to go because she won't. She sleeps all day practically and says that there is no way that she can help it. She just got a job at McDonalds last week and I think lost it today because she decided she didn't feel like it. This of course led to a nasty little fight that has left some bruises on my heart and on my person.

 

I guess at this point I'm sad and I'm scared and I can't stop crying. I don't know what to do with her anymore. She is the love of my life and I don't ever want to leave her. She doesn't think that she is responisble for her illness and acts like the victim. I work dilegently to give her a roof over her head, emotional and financial support, and anything else that she needs, but I'm worn so thin. I just don't know what to do! Sometimes I get so mad about all of this because I'm doing everything on my own and trying to carry her and I'm only one person. She doesn't see that. If I don't do something for her then she gets incredibly insecure and is cruel to me. Like if I don't do everything under the sun for her that I don't love her anymore. I try to tell her that she's pushing me away and that she's really hurting our relationship and she just says "if you don't like it, leave."

Anonymous
lin
12/17/07 5:45pm

chellbel82 -

This is my first visit here to this forum.  (I usually go to classic film forums to escape.) But as a bipolar affected person's partner, I was so moved by our mutual sadness that I had to register so I could write to you.   I have been married to a bpolar sufferer for 20 years, diagnosed and medicated for 7.  Most people would say I'm lucky, he never misses work (although he has caused himself a few problems there), he doesn't cheat or gamble and most of his spending can be rationalized.  He doesn't beat me and the hypersexuality and severe paranoia are under control.  Still, all I have to report are 20 years of sad memories.  What sets him off?  Every holiday and season change.  Every change in life.  No, he doesn't hide in Aruba or under the covers but sometimes I wish he did.  Sometimes I wish he would cheat or beat me so I would have the excuse to leave.  No one tells a woman she has to put up with physical abuse, right?  But being cussed out regularly and made to put up with stupid obsessive compulsive rules and made to feel stupid are abusive in ways others can't see.  He puts on a pretty good act in public.  So we have given up on having children and every day is a battle in which I am the one who has to decide whether to fight or hide, which is not easy to do since a bipolar person won't let you off the hook and my spouse's style is to chase you all over the house lecturing about energy consumption and how it's my fault he doesn't have enough toys and how I put everyone else first.  (Don't ask me how I could, I can't get away from him long enough.)  I often wonder if I should release him because according to him he would be happier.  He threatens divorce all the time, yet we've never even been separated.  I just wish he'd shut up or leave.  Of course, why would he give up his scapegoat?  I think I am suffering from PTSD at this point and it is not helping our household.  And my point is?...If you're not married and you don't have kids - I'd think long and hard.  Life's a long time to be sad.

12/17/07 6:03pm

Stand up for yourself.  I don't let anyone talk to me like that and you shouldn't either.  My case is different.  The one I care for is my child and I can't really release him and wouldn't even if I could.  I don't put up with him verbally abusing me or cussing at me though.  Nobody deserves that.  They do have control. 

Still you have to pick your battles.  Abuse shouldn't be tolerated no matter what "illness" that person has.

5/20/08 11:01am

Smile I was reading your response to Chellbel82 and I couldn't agree with you more. There are times when I am so down I think of ways to get out of the situation I find myself in. Getting in my car and going far, far away is always a quick thought and then I realize that leaving my daughter to be someone else's problem would be so unfair. I know if she is going to get the help she needs it will be me who makes sure that she gets it. I love her with all my heart and I can't bail on her. I have a son who tries to help me with her, but he is a truck driver and is out on the road a lot. I would really be afraid of what would become of her if I were not here. I am almost positive she would end up in a state school because she just sucks the life out of you trying to help her. I have decided to let myself out of the prison I was living in and take on a better attitude. I will make it my mission to help her in anyway I can. At the same time, I have decided that no matter what her problem is, you do not treat people the way she had been treating me and I will no longer put up with it. No more emotional or verbal abuse from her or anyone else. I will also try to take better care of me. I can't give anyone everything I have and still expect to have any left over for me. You have to take care of yourself or you have nothing to give anyway.

Anonymous
Lin
12/17/07 6:20pm

I do try to stand up for myself - he does know the difference between right and wrong but doesn't always act on it.  Thank you for your support.

 

PLEASE TO OTHERS - DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY TO MY POSTS - I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD GET AN EMAIL NOTIFICATION.

 

Anonymous
tabby
12/17/07 9:10pm

You are not married, you have no kids between you, she is not your daughter - so, you have no real legal obligations.  She is your partner for whom you live with.

 

Her struggle with Bipolar is drowning you as a unfortunate casualty.  If you allow her to drown you then what good will you be to her, to anyone else in your life, and more importantly - to yourself?

 

You can't make her go to therapy, you can't make her go to pdoc appointments, you can't even make her take her meds.  She has to be the one to do those things.  If she is playing the "oh woe is me..." victim role then it is because you and others have allowed her to do so.

 

Before you drown, move out.  Find yourself a place nearby, set up boundaries and limits and keep the consequences, find yourself some peace, and love her from a distance. 

 

This is lifelong my friend and you have to be prepared to ride the roller coaster life long if this is who you see yourself with life long.  So, if you stay - shore yourself up, look after yourself health and mental wise, and be sure you want to go this - lifelong.

 

If she settles down, stays compliant with meds, chooses therapy, goes to pdoc appointments, etc... then there is a chance she can maintain stabilization for life long.  She has to choose though, you can't make her.

12/18/07 5:16am

Tabby hit the nail on the head as far as giving great advice. I would say the majority of what you have written could have been written by a number other caregivers including myself. I sit on both sides of the fence of living with the illness and a partner that is also bipolar.

 

My guess is that she is suffering from a mixed state mania when she goes off on you. Any paranoid delusions or hearing voices during these times she is berating you? If so, good chances she will remember none of it and doesn’t mean what she says. The problem stems from the fact you don’t get to have the luxury of forgetting it all like it didn’t happen.

 

With her not being med compliant, not getting any for of therapy (medications can only do so much) and her unwillingness to take responsibility for anything is only going to lead to more of the same.

 

Even with knowing the fact that she doesn’t mean what she is saying doesn’t take the hurt away. She is an explosion waiting to happen and my advice is to move away from the blast site as quickly as possible. As a caregiver I know just how easy it is to enable people by being overly protective and doing everything for them to get them well.

 

It might actually get her headed in the right direction if there was nobody willing to do it for her making it her responsibility to take care of her business of pdoc appointments and work to get by. You’re in a tough spot and only you can make that call.

 

I would also suggest to you to vent here to get things off your chest with people that do in fact understand your situation and get in to see a therapist to help get you through this period of your life. The worst thing you can do is to hold it all inside thinking you are alone with it.

12/18/07 9:49am

Thank you for you reply. She does have points where she does get so enraged that she really doesn't remember anything she said or did and then she feels terrible afterwards.  I really do love her with all of my heart and I guess I need to step back and set the boundries so that she sees that she is the only one who is going to get her better.  I guess given her history she is extra scared of losing me because now she finally has security.  She never had anyone really love her or look after her before so part of her flipping out when I don't do things for her is because she's scared that I'm going to walk away too.  I don't want to walk away from her at all and I guess it's hard for her to see that since everyone else who said they would never abandon her did. 

 

But you are right, I do need to look out for myself and give myself what I need.  I can't be any good to her or anyone else if I don't. Its really hard to see that when I'm in front of her and I see so much pain and suffering in her.  

 

Thank you for your response and thank you for reminding me that I can call on the support of the people here. I do feel alone a lot because when I express my own feelings and fears to my partner they make her insecure.  And this is the first time I have ever been a caregiver so I'm new to this.  The advice and support gathered from the people here has helped tremendously!   

12/18/07 4:46pm

Then set the first boundary of …if you really want to continue this relationship, the first hurdle has to be that you need to take your medications as directed by your psychiatrist and see the people you need to in order to get better (therapist included).

 

Assure her that you are willing to stay and stick it out (what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger) and see it through together. You only want the best for her and you can’t do it alone. This way she gets a choice and a chance. Hope that helps.
12/19/07 1:01am

I feel for you tremendously and it sounds like your getting a lot of good advice from the folks here.  One of the best things you could have done was to post on this message board...it has helped me tremedously and the people here are experienced and wonderfully supportive of each other.

 

My partner has also had a lifetime of "too much" support to the point where he does not take care of himslef and doesn't feel as if he is able to.  His most recent breakdown I believe may be his saving grace, though it is unfortunate that is the way it had to be... my point is he now realizes that he must take control of the situation to live healthily.

 

You can continue to support your partner while setting boundaries of your own.  If a person is not willing to admit they have a real dissability and take action to gain control of their lives then there is nothing you can do to help them.  the old saying you can't help someone who won't help themselves rings true...aand trying to means a life sentence of uncertainty and most likely unhappiness.

 

Everything I've learned since I began my journey with my bipolar partner tells me that a "normal" and successful life is possible.  But as with any disability, physical or mental, it takes living a certain lifestyle.  Those who seem successful are the ones that not only take there meds and see their docs, but meditate, exercise, journal, attend support groups, play music, play sports...whatever works for them.

 

As someone who loves a person with bi-polar, I believe it is OK to say I love you and I want to be here for you always, I will always be your friend, but I cannot support you as your life partner if you are not ready to do what it takes to try and support yourself.  If you are ready to adjust your lifestyle to help your partner be healthy (which is something you should be willing and ready to do if you are going to commit to someone with a disability) then she needs to step up to the plate and do the same.  Otherwise she is committing herself and you to a lifetime of instability that I know she doesn't want anymore than you.  Bi-polars often seem to be very intelligent, and are certainly capable of viewing their illness with a degree of rationality if approached at the right time (ie not during a rage) I have focused on my partners past medical history to help him accept that he has a real disability that is nothing to be ashamed of anymore than if he were blind.  It will never go away, but it can be faced head on and life can be good if it is taken seriously.  This line I told him(over and over) seemed to really sink in: 

 

"If you were blind I would always put the same clothes in the same drawers, and would not rearrange the furniture in the house...but if you insisted on going out without your walking there would be nothing I could do for you."

 

Good luck, try to be strong, and take care of yourself.

 

Tasha

12/19/07 2:46am

I should be the first to say this as I know very well how terrible it can be to hear stuff from the lips you just kissed ten minutes ago.You know what welcome to the ride of your life cause Eric is so right about this they do not remember what they have said or done sometimes and that is sad ,So you expecting her to comply and own up to her suffering right now is gonna hurt you more than her.

A person with an abusive history and no real security who has just been diagnosed is going to feel more rejection if she cannot get a grip on her spin outs.And she will always blame you for the out come ,that is tough it will be real baby steps if you stay you have to really read about this and stay on line where you can talk .I am a Caregiver too and I cannot believe I am in this sometimes it blows my mind on the other hand I am aware of the no fault finder and little advances on my part.I give my spidy man a good look and realize more and more I cannot cure him only God prayer and him taking some responsability for himself ,Tha is where they do get better but it is a tough one and you got to be real you are only human .I am sorry she says so many bad things take it easy and keep us informed.Ninja

5/20/08 10:23am

Smile My heart goes out to you and my prayers will be with you, I very well know what you are up against. Even though it's my 20 year old daughter and not my spouse giving me problems, it amazes me how similar our situations are. In addition to her, I have two older sons to raise. I have always tried to be her soft place to fall and take care that I provided her with what she needed and I find it strange that I am the one who gets the rages and am her target with the aweful things that come out of her mouth. I can't say anything that she doesn't argue with me about. I have given to the point that I don't have much left to give and I have gone through a really rough time trying to figure out how to help her. I take her to see her doctor and she pulls the "I am not a minor child anymore, I don't want you to be in the dr's office with me" and she makes sure I am not allowed in to talk to her doctor. I am doing everything I can for her. I am trying out some good old Tough Love right now. I expect her to be respectfull in the way she speaks to me and to be considerate of me and my 32 year old son who lives with us. Until she can treat me with more respect and pull her weight around here(her idea of helping with chores is to put the bathroom trash in the can outside), I will not give her a ride anywhere except a dr's appt. and I will not give her one penny to do anything for her enjoyment such as going to the movies at the mall. I know it's hard for you and there probably isn't a whole lot you can do except take good care of your-self and make sure you find something you can do that YOU enjoy. Go out and have a beer or a cup of coffee with a friend, go to a baseball game or anything that gives you a break. I am betting you never get any me time. Can you talk to her doctor, either on the phone or in their office(by yourself), to find out what options you have? I know it is very hard caring for a person with bipolar, you cry, you get depressed, you want to walk away but you have to work through those feelings and hang in there with every thing you've got. You will find a way to make it through all this and I am praying for you that it happens soon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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