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When family becomes toxic...

By Karri28 Monday, June 13, 2011

I have a strange family, I'm sure I'm not alone there, but I feel that way sometimes. I am estranged from my brother and sister, I tried to shrug off their hurtful snipes at me as part of the grief process, my oldest sister had just died due to cancer (before that, they had cut all ties with her... seeing a pattern..) The emails turned ugly, as they tried to dredge up everything I may or may have not done in the past 10 years. 10 years of them getting closer, 10 years of my oldest sister and I getting closer. I was already deep in grief when the emails started, then the kicker came, an eight page numerically listed page of things I'd done, things I was to do and not do. Full of contradictions, such as how tired they are of me being the helpless little baby, and then telling me I d@mned well better do as they say. My husband intervened, told them to stop emailing me, all contact would go through him until I was doing better. I guess upon seeing fresh blood, they attacked him, viciously. My husband, having already been tired of what they were doing to me and not about to stand for it, pinged right back at them with a last warning to leave me alone. That started more drama, and supposedly my husband attacking them for no reason.

 

My family loves drama, it's taken me over a decade to realize that there didn't have to be constant drama going on, that it was normal to not have drama. I didn't get along with my husbands family at first, which was one sided, they adored me. But it was because I was still living by the rules of my family. Smile pretty and watch your back. I can't explain the rules to anyone, my oldest sister knew what I was talking about. Being with my family is exhausting. It's like doing an intricate gymnastic dance constantly. I get along with my husbands family now, I know that 'the rules' are BS. Even talking to my Mom, she apologized for how she had been, but we both know my father, and both understand why.

 

My father is a conflict all in himself. I love him. I hate him. I despise talking to him. I can't go more than a few days without talking to him. He's manipulative. If he does a favor, it's because he expects something in return. Nowaday he feels it gives him the right to poke into my life - all of it. I was raised to obey/fear adult males, elders. I still struggle with that. You can imagine how much fun that was in the military *sigh* He lives in his own world, and there is no way to tell if what he is saying is truth or his own version of it. When I was a teenager, acting out and sneaking out because such anger burned inside of me (I had been sexually and physically abused from ages 9 to about 12 memories are fuzzy on times, my parents didn't know, but my faith in my parents at that age was amazing and I thought they knew) I won't go into details but during a painful confrontation with my parents I exploded the truth at him. That I had been abused, that some of it had happened in his house, and I was furious with him. I don't know what I expected. Before the last words left my lips, my father exploded as well, on me. I was strangled and beaten. As the world blacked out, I hoped to die. My friend, who knew what had happened, saw the bruises the next day and called her mom, who called social services, and I was taken away. My oldest sister stepped in and I lived with her for months. Small town, small politics, my fathers political clout, I was returned, but was never the same. According to my father and other sibblings I had decided I didn't want to live at home any more, and he truly remembers it that way.

6/13/11 7:17pm

Karri,

I'm sure you know this already and have put some of it into practice...stay away. NO CONTACT!! They just bring you down. You've worked for over a year to get to what I assume is a much healthier place with your health, and your relationship with your husband and your girls.

 

I'm sure it's really difficult especially with your dad...do you all live in the same town? As much as humanly possible you have got to let go of the relationship with your dad. Yes, you can always love him...pray for him...bless him, but it won't come back in kind. It sounds like he suffers from delusions...wanting events to remain as he remembers when it wasn't how it happened at all. Your truth is yours...even if it doesn't match his.

 

You are too precious of a person to be beaten down repeatedly with what your family says and does. Remember it's THEIR problem and issue...don't buy into it...don't believe it. Take care of you!

 

If you don't already have one, seek out a therapist to help you through the feelings and help you learn coping skills. You don't want to compromise the mental health that you are working on.

 

I had to limit contact with my mom for a time and still do to some extent. I put up a strong boundary and repeat affirmations when I have to be with her. I've learned to appreciate who she is, what she had been through herself and have much more compassion rather than annimosity now. If I'm feeling vulnerable with too much stress and my bipolar symptoms are coming to the forefront, I steer clear as much as possible because it's at those times that my copeability is less and I take things too personally. I communicate by listening to her and what's going on in her life. I don't share much about me because I do feel judged even if it's only my perception and not reality. We can honor our father and mother even though we aren't 'close' to them or have a relationship like we would relish. It's a matter of expectations. I don't expect to ever have a 'normal' relationship with my mom...my dad I can get along with better because we have more of the same temperment. My mom is domineering and her way or the highway...and it's always because it comes from 'god'. How do you argue with that? My mom suffered terribly after her own mom died when she was 13. My mom never learned how to parent effectively so I can't expect her to meet the needs that I have in a mother/daughter relationship. I have compassion for the little child within her that is still missing her own mom as I have learned to have compassion for me for not having the relationship I desire.

 

I'll be praying for you, Karri.

God Bless.

 

 

 

6/16/11 4:33pm

Thank you for sharing. I had a long appt with my p-doc and re-adjusted my meds and got an appt with a new therapist. I like the one I had been seeing, but he is only doing groups now, and I'm not in need of that at the moment.

9/ 9/11 12:38am

No contact is a good idea. It sounds like you have a lot of people with borderline personality disorder in your family (or worse, what your father did hurting you physically was disgraceful). You seem to be the scapegoat for all of their issues and it doesn't sound like that's going to change - so you have to change and the only way to do that is to remove yourself from these situations until (or if ever) you are strong enouigh to deal with it. I think most of us would understand those "family rules" and how much they can hurt your relationship not just with your own family but with other people. Look after yourself, life is way too short to be worrying about things you are never going to be able to change. Pity them for being that way and live your own life. You might well find that your bipolar is helped when you do as this kind of muck just destabilises us further. Have you ever done any CBT or Mindfulness based therapy - that could be realy helpful when trying to get these rules and feelings out of your system and being able to recognise how thinking in old patterns can also make you sick.

Take care

Narelle

9/ 9/11 12:40am

No contact is a good idea. It sounds like you have a lot of people with borderline personality disorder in your family (or worse, what your father did hurting you physically was disgraceful). You seem to be the scapegoat for all of their issues and it doesn't sound like that's going to change - so you have to change and the only way to do that is to remove yourself from these situations until (or if ever) you are strong enouigh to deal with it. I think most of us would understand those "family rules" and how much they can hurt your relationship not just with your own family but with other people. Look after yourself, life is way too short to be worrying about things you are never going to be able to change. Pity them for being that way and live your own life. You might well find that your bipolar is helped when you do as this kind of muck just destabilises us further. Have you ever done any CBT or Mindfulness based therapy - that could be realy helpful when trying to get these rules and feelings out of your system and being able to recognise how thinking in old patterns can also make you sick.

Take care

Narelle

6/15/11 7:33pm

My family is my husband, my son, my adoptive son, and my friends.

 

My relatives are everyone else who could be blood related. I mean everyone. For exactly the same reason.

 

Drama, lots of on my mom side of the family. My dad passed away and we have no contact with his family (they are in MX). I sometimes feel like they want bad things to happen to me so they have something to gossip about. They don't like to see me happy.  They find my misery entertaining.

 

I keep all personally stuff to myself and only share with my friends and husband. I'm the youngest by the way.

 

My sister is evil. She is always mean, envious, poisnous. My grandma is well off and my sister is her favorite so I don't understand why my sister is so mean to me or what I can possible have that she can't. Grandma hasn't died but she gave my sister her inhertiance already- a house. Paid off. She doesn't like it because it's small and ugly. Damn. She resents me because my mom went to my band concerts, award ceremonies and never did anything with her. Like I had control over that, plus it was like 12-15 years ago....my brother agrees with her that I had it good because I wasn't punished and hit like they were...it didn't make me any less scared.

 

My mom, I hate her, I love her, I don't know what to do. She likes to control me, she does with guilt trips and other manipulative ways. I'm her favorite but her idea of showing love, even I must admit is bizzar. If she knew I were bipolar she'd flip. I'd never hear the end of it. I'd be weak, stupid and childish.

 

My husband can't stand them but put up with it for my sake. If he could he'd keep them away from, he does as much as he can. Its been terrible, they make things for me so difficult.

 

One thing is for sure:

I would rather forgive my husband for  cheating on me 20 million times over than forgiving them for anything or divorcing and letting them win.

6/16/11 4:43pm

Your Mom sounds like my Dad! My husband is the same way as yours, it would sound controlling to anyone who doesn't know the whole thing, but he'd be more than happy if I cut off all contact with that part of my family.

I agree about your not telling your family. I did, and they tell me I don't really have it. They can't stand that I'm doing well with my family and that I won't do whatever they want anymore. I stand up to them and they beat me down, but two years ago I stood my ground and they gave me hell for it. It's infuriated to deal with, and it's hard to explain to others. My family has this whole set of rules, that are unspoken but known, and they play stupid mind games. Part of me just wants to give up and say to hell with them, but it isn't that easy, I wish it was! I don't think I can stop talking to my Dad. It's so hard to even put into words.

I'm the baby of the family too. I wasn't hit as much, but like you I lived in constant fear.

My p-doc thinks that the reason that we haven't gotten my bipolar meds working well is b/c all this family stuff keeps me thrown out of whack, and that is why I'm going back to a therapist that specializes in trauma.

 

Ack! I'm rambling. I hope you are doing well, and pray that you find a way to deal with your family too. If you ever need someone to talk to, you can email me on here and I'll send you my IM address

6/16/11 5:21pm

Yes, my family can be toxic, too.  But in subtle ways.  Constantly correcting me, for example.  Believing I willingly choose not to work, instead of understanding I cannot work.  Picking fights where I have, in the past, tried to mediate.  I'm giving up on that job.  They can have it.  Sticking me with taking care of my mother all the time instead of doing their share.  Do I set myself up for these things?  Yes, at times merely by being around them.  I'm already thinking about next Thanksgiving and Christmas and wondering if I can work out a way to avoid them all together.  Like you, I'm giving therapy a go and hoping that it helps.

By Karri28— Last Modified: 10/26/11, First Published: 06/13/11