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Personality traits of the bi-polar genius

ruby Community Member March 17, 2007
  • I would like to hear of anyone else's experience of characteristics of the bi-polar person who is very intelligent.  A couple of friends and a relative have this.  One common trait is they can call you but they are unavailable or leave the phone off the hook all the time.  "Getting into religion".  Saying inappropriate things about sex around children, even though they wouldn't do anything just the shock value.   Becoming obsessed about other peoples lives or motives.  These people I know are great to ask advice from.  They can be the most charming funny person in the world, then change just when all is well.
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  • Kevin K
    Jun. 23, 2011

         Now, there is a big difference between staying in a homeless shelter and actually being a homeless "street person". I've never sat on a street corner with a cardboard sign or asked a stranger for money ("panhandling" as it is known). I've never gone through a dumpster looking for something valuable to sell to the scrap yard, or collected...

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         Now, there is a big difference between staying in a homeless shelter and actually being a homeless "street person". I've never sat on a street corner with a cardboard sign or asked a stranger for money ("panhandling" as it is known). I've never gone through a dumpster looking for something valuable to sell to the scrap yard, or collected aluminum cans from trash cans on the street ("scrapping" in homeless parlance). I've never slept in a "squat" (abandoned building) or camped out in a tent in the woods on some undeveloped land. I've never gotten drunk, caused a public disturbance, and been thrown in the "drunk tank" by the police. In fact, to look at me you would never even know that I was homeless. But for several years, I ate at the homeless soup kitchen and stayed at the shelter, and spent a great deal of time around the homeless. I am a quiet person and generally keep to myself, but I am a great listener, and the homeless love to talk and tell stories, since there's not very much else to do when you have no place to go and nothing to do. Just as an aside, the community where I live hates and despises the homeless. They are looked upon as a blight on society. As lazy, shiftless layabouts who are just looking for a handout, and always have a "sob story" about why they can't work, and just need a few dollars to get by. Indeed, the homeless "problem" became so bad downtown, that the city removed almost all the benches from every street corner and bus stop to keep the homeless from sleeping there, enacted draconian "panhandling" laws (for instance, the homeless can not use any container for people to put money in, like a cup, hat, or tin can, nor can they verbally ask people for help but must simply sit mute holding a cardboard sign which can only say "homeless, please help" - otherwise the police can give them a citation for a one hundred dollar fine, plus court costs - have you ever heard of such a thing? And don't forget the "3 strikes" laws, between Panhandling, Vagrancy, Tresspassing, Public Intoxication, Disturbing The Peace, etc. there are plenty of ways for the police to harass the homeless - either to leave town, or keep them in jail). And not only that, but there was a huge publicity campaign with pictures of homeless people and the caption "I don't need a hand-out. I need a hand up." The message being: Don't give these people any money, they'll just spend it on booze.

         But back to the subject at hand. So there I was, living with undiagnosed BPD, clinical depression, and severe emotional trauma. Going from a professional office setting, wearing nice business attire to work every day, and being not only a valued employee, but a standout in the company, to eating in a soup kitchen and being surrounded by people who society considers "the dregs" was traumatic. I coped by "turtle-ing". I found a college-type coffee house, took a seat in the back corner, and tried to distract my mind from my depression by reading constantly. This went on for over a year, during which I was mugged at knifepoint, beaten and robbed, and witnessed horrors amongst the homeless which made me question the very existence of God. I discovered that there is a level of society which actually preys upon the homeless as cheap sources of "day labor", domestic live-in servants, and a source of "food stamps" which the homeless, in their desperation, sell to unethical people at a discount, for cash. One day, while in line at the soup kitchen, a man came in who instantly caught my attention because he was actually smiling (something I hadn't seen in time forgotten) and he was laughing and joking with one of the workers. I asked one of the homeless guys who the stranger was and why he was so happy. I was told "Oh, he's from the mental health center. He's a good guy. You can talk to him." I thought, why would I need to talk to him? After all, I'm not mentally ill. And I dismissed it from my mind.

          It is interesting how the subconscious mind works. It is well known that when a person is suffering from clinical depression, commonplace everyday events can have a much larger emotional impact than usual, and my thoughts kept returning to the face of that laughing, smiling stranger. Finally, I had to take stock of my situation. I thought to myself, look here, you've been unemployed for over a year and staying in a homeless shelter, you keep thinking about suicide and death, maybe you better see a therapist. So I started asking the soup kitchen workers when the guy from the mental health center was coming back. I had to keep at it for a few weeks, because as I mentioned, many people really hate and loath the homeless, especially soup kitchen workers who have to put up with them day in and day out. But finally someone told me that there was an outreach worker who visited the kitchen every so often and told me his name. It took me a few more weeks to work up the courage to talk to him, but he was very nice, gave me his business card and told me to call the mental health center and set up an appointment.

         And that began my nightmare experience with the mental health care system. Not the real one, the one for people with insurance. The one for people with jobs. The one for people from the middle class suburbs. Oh no, not the mental health care system designed to help people manage their disorders and live normal lives, administered by caring, dedicated medical professionals whose primary concern is the best interests of the patient. But the other one. The one designed for lazy homeless alcoholic bums who don't want to work and are trying to get on "disability" for mental illness and the drug-seeking addicts who are faking mental disorders to get their hands of medications that they can sell on the street. 

          This was the mental health care system which I fell victim to, and which would, over the next few years, completely destroy my life and leave me homeless, crippled, and unable to access medical care of any sort.

         END OF PART TWO

  • Kevin K
    Jun. 23, 2011

         Here's my experience with BPD. My parents were both undiagnosed manic-depressives-which is what they called it back in the 70's. My father was Type I, and my mother Type II. They were brilliant, charismatic, opinionated, moody, empathetic, caring people, but they argued over some trivial thing and divorced when I was 5 years old. My...

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         Here's my experience with BPD. My parents were both undiagnosed manic-depressives-which is what they called it back in the 70's. My father was Type I, and my mother Type II. They were brilliant, charismatic, opinionated, moody, empathetic, caring people, but they argued over some trivial thing and divorced when I was 5 years old. My mother soon remarried, moved to another state, and severed all contact with my father's side of the family whom it turns out has a history of mental illness, but is kept as a deep dark family secret.

         Growing up, my mother was rather "eccentric" to say the least. But she was one of the nicest, most generous, loving, compassionate people one may ever hope to meet. Now, one thing common to most people with BPD is a refusal to admit that they may have a problem. This is not surprising for several reasons. To begin with, the social stigma of "mental illness" is unendureable and completely destroys a person's self-esteem. Secondly, the primary treatment for BPD is drugs, drugs, and more drugs. I ask you, who wants to spend their entire lives doped up on drugs? They are expensive, addictive - both physically and psychologically - and have terrible, sometimes perminant, side effects. Then there's the issue of unethical doctors prescribing inappropriate or unneeded medications for various reasons of their own. Unsurprisingly, it's been estimated that people with BPD will go 6 to 15 years before being diagnosed and receiving medical care.

         So at the age of 18, I had an arguement with my mother and, perminantly estranged, I set off to make my way in the world as a young man of great expectations. Obviously, having undiagnosed Type II BPD, I thought it would be no problem to make it on my own. I was prepared with an excellent work ethic, a strong moral compass, and an optimistic, earnest honesty that I thought would carry me through any situation.

         Oh, how wrong I was.

     

         You know the old saying "sink or swim"? Well, I sank. And then I swam, and then I sank again. In retrospect, it was a classic case of rapid-cycling Type II BPD. But the idea of mental illness never even entered my mind. I excelled during periods of hypomania, and blamed myself during bouts of (clinical) depression. Unreasonable feelings of guilt and shame, lethargy, sadness, mood swings, thoughts of death haunted me for weeks, even months. But then I would enter a hypomanic phase, find a new job, save my money and get an apartment of my own. I had plenty of friends to help me out with a place to stay while unemployed, who were very sympathetic and offered many suggestions. They said "Maybe you should see a therapist," to which I would reply "What good is that going to do? They can't actually DO anything except sit there and ask 'well, how does that make you feel?' I may as well be talking to a wall!" One friend suggested I see a doctor, which infuriated me. I said "Why bother? All they are going to do is throw a bunch of drugs at me and tell me to go away. I'll be damned if I'm going to become a 'pill-popper' even if it IS legal! That is just simply NO way to go through life. Drugs can NOT be the answer!"

          Well, over the next ten years, I ran out of friends who had been the safety net during the depressive times, and (being estranged from both sides of my family) I eventually found myself staying at the local homeless shelter. Since I'd never had an alcohol or drug problem, I was able to stay there for months until a hypomanic period, when I would get a job, save my money and get an apartment, thus beginning the cycle once again.

         END OF PART ONE.

  • Anonymous
    DefEddie
    May. 08, 2010

    I am Bipolar and I believe most probrably are heightened mentally.

    For my part I believe it to be because of the frequent manic stages.

    When there is nothing else to do,I can read and learn. Being a speed reader I can go through a whole lot of material quickly while understanding most of it.

    I am not a genius,my last IQ test was when I was 14 and comitted to...

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    I am Bipolar and I believe most probrably are heightened mentally.

    For my part I believe it to be because of the frequent manic stages.

    When there is nothing else to do,I can read and learn. Being a speed reader I can go through a whole lot of material quickly while understanding most of it.

    I am not a genius,my last IQ test was when I was 14 and comitted to an institution-it measured me at 167.

    No meds or control ended up with me dropping out of high school,only to end up taking my GED.

    I scored in the top 5 percent of the state in my GED score (99 percentile for comprehension) and top 5% in the state/10% country on my SAT's.

    I went on to become an EMT,scoring at the top of my class while being a drug addict/alcoholic and working the entire time.

    Dropped that as quick as I picked it up.

    People with Bipolar aren't necessarily smarter,we just need something to do.

    I have so many hobbies it's pathetic,I learn a new one every time i'm manic.

    From Ham radio to Hydroponics,if it catches the eye at the right time then I can do it or figure out how.

    Normal people just don't have the drive that screwed up brain chemistry will give you I guess.

     

    Of course,you have to remember that alot of the time we cannot function also.

    Regardless of all the specialized knowledge I have,it can be wiped within minutes with a single negative event or trigger.

    I can be instantly overwhelmed by the smallest task,or disregard important precautions due to being preoccupied in my mind.

    I am not currently on medication,it is not worth the crappy baseline you become from what I remember years ago.

    With medication my thoughts could not run free,right now I could design a complicated wiring schematic in my head if I wanted-the medication restrict's free thinking ability.

     

  • Anonymous
    valcingetorix
    Nov. 18, 2009

    I am manic-depressive on treatment (limited success).  My IQ is around 140 to 145.  I write poetry and compose classical style music.  Creativity has an established, researched link to manic-depression.  As to personality traits, I can offer this:  mood has everything to do with it.  When "up", I am extremely social, even playful,...

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    I am manic-depressive on treatment (limited success).  My IQ is around 140 to 145.  I write poetry and compose classical style music.  Creativity has an established, researched link to manic-depression.  As to personality traits, I can offer this:  mood has everything to do with it.  When "up", I am extremely social, even playful, mischevious (I enjoy "shock-value" behavior as the questioner put it).  When I am engaged in music composition, I hate any disruption, regardless of mood.  When depressed, which is too often, I want nothing to do with most anyone.  I will not answer the phone and I become angry if people force themselves on me.  Socialization skills fall to the wayside and I become withdrawn, even rude.  Even when "normal" there is a certain amount of "mental baggage" that comes along with a lifetime of bipolar disorder.  My behavior is at best somewhat unpredictable, mercurial, and eccentric.  This is true for a great many sufferers of bipolar manic-depression.  This should explain to the questioner why there are quirks in a bipolar's behavior.   mark

  • Lori83
    Oct. 09, 2009

    My heart, it bleeds for people/the world.  It bleeds for the little old lady struggling in the grocery store to walk with her cart, it bleeds for a dog I see tied up in a back yard...all alone and no-one paying attention to him.  It bleeds when I see a lonely looking elderly person sitting alone in a resteraunt, eating slowly and staring off into...

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    My heart, it bleeds for people/the world.  It bleeds for the little old lady struggling in the grocery store to walk with her cart, it bleeds for a dog I see tied up in a back yard...all alone and no-one paying attention to him.  It bleeds when I see a lonely looking elderly person sitting alone in a resteraunt, eating slowly and staring off into the distance they feel - in the room.  I feel like I want to "fix" everything and everyone.  I notice everything that goes on and analyze it.  On the other hand - I become moved very easy.  The way a flower blows in the wind, the way geese instinctually know how to make formations, which keep changing mid-air while flying south for the winter.   Which ones will make it to their winter destination and which ones won't?   I am Extremely musical.  Majored in Vocal Music - am a gifted Soprano.  I feel every beat, every chord, every harmony - it flows through my blood like an endless river.  I laugh often, but cry easily.  I want the world to be perfect, but it isn't.  I am very Christian.  Every day I have to remind myself to give it all to God.  I am one person.  Jesus already saved the world.  Jesus already saved the world.

  • Lori83
    Oct. 09, 2009

    I am bi-polar.  I have good days, bad days and great days. I am very antalytical, having worked in the Insurance Industry for years.  Sometimes, it takes one silly thing to change my mood in an instant.  It can be as simple as a smell or even the way I perceive someone looking at me to things like the weather, or what will I fix for dinner tonight?...

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    I am bi-polar.  I have good days, bad days and great days. I am very antalytical, having worked in the Insurance Industry for years.  Sometimes, it takes one silly thing to change my mood in an instant.  It can be as simple as a smell or even the way I perceive someone looking at me to things like the weather, or what will I fix for dinner tonight?   I "dwell" on things - get stuck on them and then can't move on.  Until I move on - I'm pissed.  When this happens - I don't want to be bothered.  Right now, my house is too cluttered and I am stuck on how to un-clutter it.  My 24 year old daughter and my grandson are back home living with us - and that doesn't help.  My son is 17 and at a crazy stage.  Some people can deal with all this just fine, but I struggle.  It's really throwing me off.  My husband has a ton of stuff from his deceased parents and I just want to rent a dumpster and throw it all in.  He is going to have to choose a few important items to keep soon, or the dumpster just might happen.  Being on my meds is helping...but there probably needs to be a bit more adjusting.  All in time.  I do the same - call people, but sometimes when my phone rings...i ignore it, don't want to be bothered.  I'm not sure why I do this, but I feel as if I want to talk to them when I want to talk to them - it's not right....i know.  But, if I'm in a bad mood, it is best I don't answer their call.   We bi-polars are smart people, maybe too smart and that is a big part of the problem.  Hang in there and just give them love.  If they are having a bad day, it is best just to leave them alone. 

  • Wits End
    Aug. 13, 2009

    it is out of the darkness, solitude and in those moments that you were most alone that you probably gained some tremendous insight and perspective to what is truly meaningful in life. It is during this journey through the dark night of the soul that we evolve and become more spiritually inclined.

    Nevertheless, it is a place which we must evolve past because...

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    it is out of the darkness, solitude and in those moments that you were most alone that you probably gained some tremendous insight and perspective to what is truly meaningful in life. It is during this journey through the dark night of the soul that we evolve and become more spiritually inclined.

    Nevertheless, it is a place which we must evolve past because to intensely focus on that which is painful after a while it will deplete all of your constructive energy. That state of mind is not a place you want to live full time. Many artists and writers create their greatest works from channeling depression and their sadness and that is good. But to live in a dark cold place too long will drive one mad.

    Reach for the sunshine and the light with every ounce of your soul. It is a much healthier place to live and ultimately necessary to survive!

  • Anonymous
    kevrocks
    Dec. 07, 2008

    I have lived with a "bipolar genius" for years now. I would describe him as more than life. I have never seen someone who can be so extreme about everything and anything. If you were to ask, "John, Do you like this book?" he couldnt give simple no, he would respond, "No i want to burn and ttravel in history and take out the writer before he could publish it."...

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    I have lived with a "bipolar genius" for years now. I would describe him as more than life. I have never seen someone who can be so extreme about everything and anything. If you were to ask, "John, Do you like this book?" he couldnt give simple no, he would respond, "No i want to burn and ttravel in history and take out the writer before he could publish it." jesus. nothing seems impossible to this kid. rules dont seem to apply. They honestly are sort of mean and rude people but they are hard to turn from because you can tell they know something you dont. just my personal opinion, i dont think its a curse, i think these are gods chosen people.

    • Wits End
      Aug. 13, 2009

      I'll keep this short....i've heard the genious/bipolar comment alot recently...actually some of the most intelligent people (aka: artists, poets, writers, healthcare etc) suffer more from this and i'm not sure why...Maybe in our darkest moments we become our most creative??  I'd rather be a simpleton personally.

    • Wits End
      Aug. 13, 2009

      I'll keep this short....i've heard the genious/bipolar comment alot recently...actually some of the most intelligent people (aka: artists, poets, writers, healthcare etc) suffer more from this and i'm not sure why...Maybe in our darkest moments we become our most creative??  I'd rather be a simpleton personally.

  • Anonymous
    Liszt
    Aug. 20, 2008

    I have always felt different than most.  It is, however, in my mid-20s that I began to understand myself and became interested in my own minds, trying to understand why such overwhelming feelings of love and why enormous suffering in my heart at the mere sight of an injustice or cruelty.  In my experience, I see the miracles of life, I hear the Voice...

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    I have always felt different than most.  It is, however, in my mid-20s that I began to understand myself and became interested in my own minds, trying to understand why such overwhelming feelings of love and why enormous suffering in my heart at the mere sight of an injustice or cruelty.  In my experience, I see the miracles of life, I hear the Voice of God in the new found words of my nephew, in the wind that caresses my skin and in the songs of the birds in the early morning...I hear nature and I feel the love in the lights of the moon and the winks of the sun as the clouds pass by covering it for a mere second...I feel loved, for whomever created me allowed me to secrete tears and burst a laugh to express the joy and the wisdom of the earth and the trees...

     

    I hurt, and I cry as I write this, for my heart burst in love and in complety awe to my own body, my own design and others...to see how magnificently the flowers bloom or the night falls just as I fall and gloom with the seasons...I hurt and fall to my knees looking for rhymes and verses so that others can benefit from my sight, from my heart and from my humble passion towards creation and the very salt in my tears, which I often taste as I see the universe unfold before me...

     

    I crave knowledge, i long for love and I break everyday when someone suffers.  I am connected to everything around me...and I want everyone else to see the wonders I see...to see the beauty in simplicity and the complexity of our very own minds...I want us to share this vision, but it pains me when it is often dismissed by society's veil of corruption and skepticism, managing to blur our perceptions and indocrinate our population..

     

    I suffer, I cry, I close my eyes and feel the world around me, I feel you, I feel someone across the sea, across the land..I feel the very wind as it passes through, greeting me, wrapping me in its everlasting hello...I feel all these things, and I can only cry in both joy and sadness...joy for I exist, insignificant yet magnificent creature, and sad because i feel alone in my visions for I can only utter nonsense wisdom...

     

    I wish I could explain how the heavens open before me, how the sea showers me in all its mysteries and how the cosmos blankets me at night...I wish I could only find the words to describe the visions, the emotions and tell you how I love you and recognize even the insects in our planet, but I only wish to find the words...this is my experience, my calvary, my gift...I am forever changed...

  • Anonymous
    Theresa Lockwood
    Mar. 24, 2008

    ...genius doesn't have to have some accessive amount of other peoples knowledge and discoveries outside of your world . All bi-polor genius is. Is having understanding from both sides of both worlds. You may be more septable to be least bias minded .and less discrimating.You may see more clearly beyond the circumstance .you will make judgements justly most...

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    ...genius doesn't have to have some accessive amount of other peoples knowledge and discoveries outside of your world . All bi-polor genius is. Is having understanding from both sides of both worlds. You may be more septable to be least bias minded .and less discrimating.You may see more clearly beyond the circumstance .you will make judgements justly most of the time instead of siding with one or the other or yourself.just because it'll benefit you .genius can be something that stays insdie of your own family.So if you have a genius that cooks soul food .with the art of love.- to battling with greek philosophers. and opressing societies .I mean some people come out of high schools and can't even laugh with thier children. People have high degrees of high places .but yet can't talk to people outside of thier own kind. Some people are mathmaticians but can't tell you much about people .What is a genius ? But, understanding . Of life around you . and its troubling to me because people who don't have traits of some of bi-polor. are very boring .No you don't have to be a philosopher,a poet,a painter,an inventer,a religous fanatic. Or might I say You do not have to understand these things .They are other peoples things .Just understand you are part of lifes plan. Just as you are.When you become something your not .Like I always tell people someone with no intellegence is someone trying to be or speak something they don't understand .Understanding can only be contained in something you recieved .And its your genius. And love is the truest genius and its to give it away what you were given .Whatever that is .

    • Anonymous
      Daz
      Jan. 21, 2014
      I believe bipolar to be a form of genius, unfortunately this has severely affected my life experiences and had distressing repercussions, because there are an awful lot of normal people out there who do not possess the ability to see things so clearly and easily but whose position and want of money or power causes them to lay claim to the work of people like...
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      I believe bipolar to be a form of genius, unfortunately this has severely affected my life experiences and had distressing repercussions, because there are an awful lot of normal people out there who do not possess the ability to see things so clearly and easily but whose position and want of money or power causes them to lay claim to the work of people like us. I have always had incredible problem solving ability, I have gone into numerous new jobs in different types of business and been able to not only learn things incredibly quickly and transfer skills seamlessly, but I have been able to see what people in these businesses for years have been unable to. In sales I have made millions of pounds for businesses, but that hasn't necessarily been a good thing as professional jealousy and people in higher positions in closed ranks companies . They have always welcomed my phenomenal input at first, taken credit for it from their peers unbeknown to me, bastardised evolving ideas to ruination to bring incredible frustration and then when I or other people in the business have spoken out about where the success is actually coming from, things always turn incredibly nasty! Being a bipolar genius in today's world is incredibly depressing
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    Theresa Lockwood
    Mar. 24, 2008

    Oh .I have been studying on the field of bi polor for years .I have been diagnosed with bi-polor .And I refute against it. I believe it is a control or mere destruction of a type of people with great traits .For one ,what we are is an opened mind in a world that is unthinking and asleep .Which leaves us vulnerable to exclusion and attacks .and why ?why are...

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    Oh .I have been studying on the field of bi polor for years .I have been diagnosed with bi-polor .And I refute against it. I believe it is a control or mere destruction of a type of people with great traits .For one ,what we are is an opened mind in a world that is unthinking and asleep .Which leaves us vulnerable to exclusion and attacks .and why ?why are we attacked and looked at like we have to change ,we have the problem,we have abnormalities that can't be understood .and then some group of people come along .Tell us there is something wrong with who God designed us to be .and they are going to give us a pill to make us normal like them .Because they think (or don't think)they have all the answers to humanity .and its intersting .They have all this power to make us into them .The dead soul .Oh,but they are guiding humanity .Can the blind lead the blind ? Psychiatrists are dangerous .and you wil rarely see an opened eye one .

     Bi Polor has the charachteristics ...of creativity which is exspressed from the frontal lobe of the brain .(I believe the brain is the hard ware of hallways for the spirit of the mind to exspress itself.)some are more stimulated than other ..like they have wider hallways than most in that of the person with the more intellect .The more intellect comes from more feeding .Enough of the parablic stories ...Which is another trait of those of the gift of bi-polor. The denouncing of the use of metaphorical language.So often found in poets .Such the same as those who can ryhme .Puns are another ..the catchy phrases in advertizement today .On sign, magazines,school literature .The Holy Bible consists of metaphores,puns,ryhming,poetry. Flight of ideas.This would be your philisophical thinker.Such as Plato,Aristotle,Rene Descrates,Sir Issac Newton,Albert Einstine,Leonardo Devincci,and many saints. Flight of ideas are building blocks in the mind as it learns from trial and error. Its a mental playground.So then what about the outburst of expression.Or the low times ..well my friend we understand most and more feelings of a confused world .We carry more insight of emotional intellegence. For those who realize when they are lost .and in those who realize they are lost .Do they then not begin to see and walk as though they are not dead.They can mourn for those who hurt .They travel to many places to where people have never gone .The thing is ...There is a price,there is a demand ,there is a responsibility.The thing is these people suffered and carried great burdens .Many of them were enslved in societies .To be what people exspected them to be .Used,ridiculed ...and if the didn't provide..humiliated,tortured,exaughsted,some killed. today they have laws ..but you still have the same mind. Many are in institutions ,throw aways.Never to be heard. and be them and make a mistake .The world is cruel ..Nowadays ..The have a diagnosis .That this is a disease .But it is we that carry others diseases .They have defence mechanisms in bi-polor .Mental play I call it . Another back up ..Is they are argumentative,assertive,talkative. This is what they exspress what they know ...because these minds will unveil a whole lot more than what people want them to .They are sensative,seeing,discerning.They mostly read between the lines .Many grow up in religous enviroments ..so they have other words .some told they are bipolor with Axis1 which is bi-polor with psychosis .Believing they are chosen,being persecuted ,and they have to save the world .Well guess what whos to say its not real .It happens often .any of them do have specail gifts .and its all again a religous battle between the seeing and the blind .Bi-polor is a system to pick and choose its geniuses .almost like Holucost...the inferiar and superior by charachteristics chosen .with no insight to true natural laws ,people ,Gods design.Just self power .From tlaking to people I realized there are some people who were diagnosed with bi polor who do not have these traits. Don't know what is going on with that. But needless to say .,..When medication is distributed ,it is destroying parts of the brain that are capable of producing these great things .Which another so called symptom .Is grandiosoty.well that is the mind of every leader .Especally the Psychiatrist.The thing is there is a typer of observance ..there is one who stands up .,there is those who choose to serve,and those who just want to cntrol .and if you express, you know things they never heard of .Your definately grandiose ,to them .and don't have to much fun having sex with your spouse because if you do ...Its definately a manic episode.(sarcasm )... the thing is .What and where is the illness and where does it come from .The people who try to supress us ...so why should we not laugh and cry.

    don't let anyone tell you .You are a mistake and there is something wrong with you.you don't want to conform .You weren't meant to.Rebel ,but don't rebell against truth.Don't lose yourself. If we are given a gift its for humanity not aganist humanity .even though they may be against us .Be the light of the world . 

    • omegatron
      Oct. 02, 2010

      This is an awsome analysis. I need to keep this short as I am in a manic episode currently and need to capture my own thoughts before they fleet me on a different venue.

    • raj006
      Oct. 19, 2010

      that's sound nice...keep writting

    • Jane doe
      Oct. 18, 2012
      I feel Exatley the same way as you as I am the same as you describe and I will only take the bare minimum of meds extremely low dose and I choose which ones! I am so happy to hear your story because you are indeed bang on and I relate to your story 100%
    • Shawn AMKR Dickinson
      Jun. 26, 2013

      You encapsulated how I feel about all these personality/anxiety/depression disorders - including most of all bi-polar, the schizoid, schizotype and schizophrenic, aswell as manic depressives. It's all about balance in this world - the greatest thinkers learned how to use these blessed gifts to reinvent how we think of the world. No one escapes diagnosis of...

      RHMLucky777

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      You encapsulated how I feel about all these personality/anxiety/depression disorders - including most of all bi-polar, the schizoid, schizotype and schizophrenic, aswell as manic depressives. It's all about balance in this world - the greatest thinkers learned how to use these blessed gifts to reinvent how we think of the world. No one escapes diagnosis of some type (unless you avoid the doctor, and think of this all BigPharma Lobbyists with Free Samples, clocks, pens, paper, etc etc - they're trying to sell products just like any other buisness - they don't care what the long term effects are on a persons psyche. Just out to make a buck and when they can't they synthesize something similiar (ie patent ran out so they make an XR version) or repackage things like SSRI's being used as treatment for nicotine addiction (yeah sure-greaaaat until they run out and realize you had them on an SSRI antidepressant without them knowning it and the black box warnings become even more important). 

      Anyway - I've always had idea that the great thinkers, Shamans, mystics, christ/buddah archetypes reincarinating in the past - we're all of these spectrum of disorders (and these are all theories - no one can prove a damned thing - becuase we live in a relativistic universe). Like einstein said - energy never dies it just transmutes - (changes) - thus you can transmute all your manic/skizo/whathaveyou energy into something beautiful, and revolutionary. Wether taht be poetry, music, writing or something else completley innovative entirely. Most of the geniuses of the world we're considered lunatics at their time, now we revere them. There is a reason for these things - and they can be channeled into greatness. Do you have the will power and courage to do so? That's the real question. 

    • Shawn AMKR Dickinson
      Jun. 26, 2013

      Ah a fellow thinker - its so refreshing to see. You encapsulated how I feel about all these personality/anxiety/depression disorders - including most of all bi-polar, the schizoid, schizotype and schizophrenic, aswell as manic depressives. It's all about balance in this world - the greatest thinkers learned how to use these blessed gifts to reinvent how...

      RHMLucky777

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      Ah a fellow thinker - its so refreshing to see. You encapsulated how I feel about all these personality/anxiety/depression disorders - including most of all bi-polar, the schizoid, schizotype and schizophrenic, aswell as manic depressives. It's all about balance in this world - the greatest thinkers learned how to use these blessed gifts to reinvent how we think of the world. No one escapes diagnosis of some type (unless you avoid the doctor, and think of this all BigPharma Lobbyists with Free Samples, clocks, pens, paper, etc etc - they're trying to sell products just like any other buisness - they don't care what the long term effects are on a persons psyche. Just out to make a buck and when they can't they synthesize something similiar (ie patent ran out so they make an XR version) or repackage things like SSRI's being used as treatment for nicotine addiction (yeah sure-greaaaat until they run out and realize you had them on an SSRI antidepressant without them knowning it and the black box warnings become even more important). 

      Anyway - I've always had idea that the great thinkers, Shamans, mystics, christ/buddah archetypes reincarinating in the past - we're all of these spectrum of disorders (and these are all theories - no one can prove a damned thing - becuase we live in a relativistic universe). Like einstein said - energy never dies it just transmutes - (changes) - thus you can transmute all your manic/skizo/whathaveyou energy into something beautiful, and revolutionary. Wether taht be poetry, music, writing or something else completley innovative entirely. Most of the geniuses of the world we're considered lunatics at their time, now we revere them. There is a reason for these things - and they can be channeled into greatness. Do you have the will power and courage to do so? That's the real question. 

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      Daz
      Jan. 21, 2014
      This place is great, the op really made me laugh and smile as I'm currently undergoing CBT, but it doesn't work for me, because I know there is nothing wrong with my patterns of thought or the conclusions I draw. We analyse more than most and have incredible ability to easily see through problems or issues to the solution, in my analytical processes I will...
      RHMLucky777
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      This place is great, the op really made me laugh and smile as I'm currently undergoing CBT, but it doesn't work for me, because I know there is nothing wrong with my patterns of thought or the conclusions I draw. We analyse more than most and have incredible ability to easily see through problems or issues to the solution, in my analytical processes I will look at issues from numerous different perspectives (many more than most normal people) and draw better and more reasoned and balanced conclusions as a result. I stopped my meds today, serotonin whatever's as they to me seem to block the passages of clear thought and attempt to make you as brain dead as many normal people. Please don't worry, I've only been taking them for about 3 weeks and not a high dose so I don't anticipate any significant withdrawal symptoms (I must stress I do not recommend anyone else follow my actions) my experience of the Meds has been I have felt disconnected from the person I have been all my life, they have severely diminished some of my skills and that has made more depressed rather than less.
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    Matthew Chiarito
    Dec. 02, 2007
    Just as beauty lives in the eye of the beholder, so does Inteligence.