Well, first, thanks for downloading my program. I do appreciate your taking the time.

Now the rest. I am a businessman, true. I am not altruistic in that respect and to think anyone is, is foolish. To do a favor, here and there is altruistic. To give constantly and expect nothing in return is foolish and a great way to go broke. We cannot pay our rent with good deeds. We can't eat karma or clothe our children in our altruistic efforts. If no one got paid, not even non-profits would exist. Foundations that give away money would never come to have existed in the first place.

The fact that my program is free is a BIG plus for many. Take my own situation. Before I even had a program, I knew nothing of the products and steps I now endorse and it took me two years to learn it all. This does not include the many ripoff companies and garbage supplements, New Age tactics, etc. that I also tried and failed at, or got nothing for, as I learned.

I personally beilive that the meds ARE killing us. I know they are. But I not only have no problem with a doctor knowing of my methods, I look forward to it. They need to know what I know. And legally, I must say that. But if you go to www.truehope.com and read how their products work, you'll see that to stay on meds and take their supplements could do you grave harm. That is is because the supplements are repairing what the meds only coat or quiet. The net effect is to potentiate the meds. You become overmedicated on a normal dose, or any dose, after awhile.

And I have worked in two settings (3 years total) where I saw endlessly, the results of sticking to meds as the key way to treat bipolar and similar ills. I worked a nasty ER and an even nastier Psych Lockdown ward and later, a spinal and head trauma institute. I saw the good the meds were doing. Little to none and in most cases more harm than good. And again, I saw and felt what happened to my own mind and body as I was guinea-pigged through every med known to man that might help a bipolar person. I gained 100 pounds, lost my sex drive for over a year, couldn't think straight or remember, couldn';t stay awake, couldn't sleep and was pushed numerous times into psychosis by the sleep meds, and on and on.

The way I see it, if your meds work, that is good, to a point, but it is still a coating-over of the true problems beneath and they allow you to accept a certain level of being, not your BEST level of being. I exclude crises totally. A crisis is a crisis and needs to be stopped and if, for some reason, I were to flip out, instantaneously, I would want a hefty tranquilizer, I'm sure. But it's been 3 1/2 years now and I'm doing great. I DO NOT think I'm cured. Just not actively bipolar.

Now, I am an affiliate for Centerpointe, and why not? I totally believe in them so why should I not gain from referring anyone to them? The price is the same to the future customer. No one gets harmed, I just get paid for my time and efforts, and I apply a lot of time and effort in sharing what I know. I spend a lot of cash to run it all too. But that's how a business works. So, I should be compensated.

If anyone took the time to investigate www.truehope.com, they would find all the evidence of which you spoke. The stats, the reports, the doctors who support this and why, the institutes that back Truehope, etc. Dig, people, dig! To avoid this discussion in the future, I'd have to present a 500,000 word document to try and cover it all in the first volley. That's impossible and you wouldn't read it anyway. This is a process. I lead people to the sources of info but I can't hand walk everyone through every single step of discovery. Not for free, anyhow. That would be foolish to ask of anyone.

I can see someone thinking that this approach worked for me and maybe won't for all. And this may be true but I think it comes down to intensity levels and varying weak spots that are what separate us from one another. Something that may have caused me severe illness might not be a big issue in another's life and vice-versa. Something I easily overcame, might be a major problem for another.

It should be noted that Truehope is a non-profit and beyond supporting them and thanking all that is holy that I found them, which saved my life, I have no connection to them.

I had hesitated to start on another forum because these types of remarks and questions always come up and I see them as a complete missing of the key point. And the altruistic angle is always mentioned as if it's a sin to earn for your work. That is insane. I took my entire life, to include the two years of intense study to build my system, and condensed it into two books, one of which is the system itself and free!

Originally, I hadn't even known that's what I'd done. I had to be convinced after the fact, to write a book about it and share it. I wasn't even aware of what I'd done and was just happy for the health and peace of mind I'd attained. My family and friends pushed me to share it all as they'd seen my incredible turnaround.

You'd better believe I am looking to earn. Your doctor does, right? Do you ever question him when he bills you? He learned, studied, worked. I learned, studied, and worked. He has a degree but I have direct experience.

I also go to bed at night knowing I did my best to help others.

I love helping people and I have helped turn many lives around when they had no hope. I have no problem being compensated for that. None. I only wish I'd have met someone like me years sooner than I did.

Please don't nitpick these off-to-the-side matters when they're not what matters most. Getting people out of the hole of bipolar is what matters most. Even if all we can do is dull the intensity of the symptoms, that's all I'd prayed for when I began. I literally begged God for 5 minutes of piece per day, and I'd handle the madness of the other 23 hours and 55 minutes, gladly. This is what I offer along with my personal time to specifically help if someone needs it. And that help is not free. And I have no need to apologize for that.

I hope this wasn't perceived as too savage or attack-like but I get tired of the obviousness of this particular perspective. The combat Marine in me gets fed up sometimes. I just want people to win, like I did, and to win, a proper fight must be had. I believe the system's way is improper. I believe that once people gain some stability, as they can with my steps, they should then look into attaining whatever their personal level of excellence is. Not the best or greatest of everyone. Just their best and greatest and I believe meds won't let that happen.

I don't see bipolar as a separate box illness. It's the face of our times that some of us are unlucky enough to bear. But many bipolar people carry the ability within them to do things no one else in society can. IF they're not medicated to the gills and IF they can get their symptoms under control.

i really am a nice guy. I used to be very ugly, very scary. I grew to hate that way of being and bipolar drove most of it. So I constantly strive to be a good egg but I can only take so much.

I hope this shows what I'm all about and what I stand for. I doubt I've ever said it clearer than this. I never wanted to offend anyone in the past but enough is enough.

Hi Ken,

I have looked at Truehope's website, at the studies and still I could not advocate individuals with bipolar to go off their medication.  The individuals in one of the studies were able to reduce their level of medication, while taking the supplement.

The studies were done with a relatively small number of subjects.  I did not see double blind or cross-sectional studies, and a longitudinal study would be nice.  There is just not quite enough evidence to ask individuals to completely trust in the prooduct.  We are dealing with the lives of people.  The site even had this statement offer which further back up what I have said. "As encouraging as these studies are, however, the results need to be proven in a large scale, double-blind placebo controlled study."  Prove the results and then make the claims.

I am not saying that your program does not have its merits and I also am not saying there may be some benefit from nutrients and supplements.  What I am saying is that before claims are made that give individuals hope and faith in a product to the point that they are willing to go off their medications in the process of taking EmPower, be sure to a high degree of probability that they will remain stable through the process.  These are people and there are lives at stake.

I know this is not your product and that you seem to have had good results with it.  I know there are others that have had positive results.  I have also read of individuals who have not had good results.  I also know that d-l phenylalanine should be taken with antidepressants and that doing so could risk and episode of mania.  I do understand while taking the supplement, it may be neccesary to reduce or eliminate medications.  So, if you can, along with your discalaimers, advice that there is a degree of risk involved and encourage them to see and involve the psychiatrist throught out the process.  This way you will be decreasing risk and involving the medical community, so they can observe and monitor the results for the person.

Thanks for the link to your program.  There are some parts of it that I feel are worth exploring.  For now, I will stay away from EmPower until there is further data to ensure its safety and efficacy.  I already take a nutrient and mineral supplement that compares in amounts and sources to EmPower.  The only parts of the proprietary blend, provided in EmPower, that I do not have are d-l phenylalanine, glutamine, grape seed extract, ginko biloba, methionine, germanium sequioxide, boron, nickel and phosphorous.   I also get about 1500mg of EPA/day.

Thanks again for providing the information Ken.