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Monday, August 31, 2009 suchachica asks

Q: Can I put bipolar spouse into treatment myself? Per his prior mood swing request?

If you decide to try again with a bipolar spouse, but he is not ready to admit he needs help... are there ways to force him to get help down the road?

 

Military, non-supportive family, and personal fears about what a bipolar diagnosis will do for his career and gun addiction. Not to mention, he loves being right. Though he admitted to being bipolar prior to going off Seroquel, he now insists I made up his previous diagnosis, and that the meds helping him was just a fluke.

 

He asked me, just before coming off the Seroquel to help him if he ever did something like this. He knew his condition would end up forcing him to leave the military, and tried a different anti-depressant as a last hope. He swore he would get out if the medicine did not work. Two weeks after beginning the drug, he left me. That was not very long ago, and he has cycled too many times to count. I promised him I would force him into treatment, yet that is not even possible. For one, I don't know if the guy I promised was the real man, or if this new, detached guy is his normal character.

 

The whole situation sucks, and after a two month separation, I have almost moved on. I told him two days ago that I hated hearing from him, did not want to be friends, and was tired of him screaming at me for hours at a time about how horrible I am. He only calls to yell and fight... then expects me to listen to his ever-changing career plans, etc... Soon, he will complain about having to talk to me at all, though if I do not contact him about a joint matter I get in worse trouble for not calling. He says he wants a divorce, and stopped loving me months before our separation. Then he will get jealous for no reason, really, over nothing, and tell me that if I want to stay friends I have to change, etc. If I tell him, fine, let's just not talk, he tells me that I am saying that because I am immature, and that he will not be my friend if I continue to act impulsively... No, I did not mess up the wording. He turns the conversation around, and makes it seem like I am still begging. He tends to do that a lot.

 

In general, my question is just an "in case". I can't say I wouldn't take him back, assuming that is what he has been getting at with the mood swings, but I if I did... I could not live like that again. I went to therapy after we separated, and my goal is to acheive stability. Not quite synonymous with a bipolar guy. On the off chance that his mood is heading back to the same place it was in before he quit Seroquel... I would like to know my options, legally, before agreeing to care for him again.

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8/31/09 6:22pm

Hi: First of all, this is not legal advice. For that you need a lawyer. But I can speak from the bipolar person's perspective. Unfortunately you have no idea what's really going on in his mind.  If he's hearing voices or delusional (sounds like he's at least delusional), he's probably being directed to act in a certain way. To get an idea of how things might be appearing to him in a delusional state, you might want to check out one of my delusions I had when I was manic (pre-medication) at my blog,crazymer1.wordpress.com. There are three posted there to choose from. Remember that you're not dealing with the real guy you love(d). And he won't admit to you what's really going on in his mind if he's delusional. Kind of a a "catch-22". Assuming that you have no idea what delusions he's operating under, that's where the guns become a problem. The point people miss sometimes is that the person who is mentally ill is not thinking straight. Really bizarre thoughts that would scare you to death if you were sane seem ok and normal. Get the guns out of the house. Maybe someone else can store them for you.

 

The only way to get your loved one back is to get him some help (meds and counseling). If he makes threats to hurt himself or others, then its relatively easy. You can have him committed involuntarily. BUt if he doesn't then the best thing would be if you can get a flicker of the old guy back, you can try to talk him into admitting himself into a mental hospital. Mental hospitals are best because they give the patient the controlled atmosphere to get some heavy-duty stuff going quickly to get him back as soon as possible.  Out-treatment is more difficult, but as a final resort. The worst thing would be to do nothing. Again, you really don't know what kind of danger you or he might be in. 

 

The military has just started up a new program to help people with mental illness. There are a lot of resources out there for you and him. Just don't wait. Good luck.

 

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By suchachica— Last Modified: 10/26/11, First Published: 08/31/09