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Wednesday, June 17, 2009 Chrispy asks

Q: Am I Crazy, Reaching A Higher Level, Or Manic? I Need Some Advice...

Hi, my name is Chris (female). And I'm looking for some advice. I really appreciate this. This is my story/question/concern:

 

My new goal in life is to work on my personal growth and NEVER stop. There's 17 levels of consciousness and it's only possible to reach one at a time in order. Right now I might be in the level of Courage, which is special because it's the "gateway level". But I‘m not for sure if that‘s the right level I‘m on right now from just what I‘ve learned so far. I want to get to the highest level of consciousness possible by the time I die. I think that way my life will be worth living. When I die people will say, "She lived a meaningful, fulfilling life." I'm going to do a TON more of reading and studying about it and find out as much as I can so I can do this.

 

This is one of the things me and my sister were talking about earlier when I was convinced we could read eachothers minds when we were having a really deep conversation. We don't strive for good grades and we don't care about holding down a good job, or any for that matter (we're both 18). And we're not really interested in the whole college thing. It sounds like we're just lazy and don't care about life. But we just care about OTHER things. We both agreed we want to be here on earth for our own personal growth and to learn as much as possible about ourselves, reality, people, and the world around us.

 

IDK how to explain it. It's like the world is the big puzzle and each puzzle piece has a clue to what life is about. I have all the puzzle pieces right in front of me. I can figure it out if I sit here and focus on it even though it will test my attention span and take me much longer than I want it to and other things. I just have to keep thinking hard and study and research and find and ask and never stop asking and I can put all the pieces together in my head.

 

I've learned so much lately, I mean in months off and on, mostly when I‘m manic (I was diagnosed bipolar 1, rapid cyclling, by just searching the web. I've learned what the levels of consciousness are, I learned all about quantum physics and our reality, I have many theories on bipolar disorder and other "mental illnesses" from all perspectives, I've started meditating, I learned about the Kundalini awakenings, a little about Buddhism, I've been "pondering the meaning of life", I've been so open to others' perspectives, I think about death and afterlife, and I've been questioning the meaning of life along with doing tons of research on it. I've never been so into all this, at least not at once! But it's all coming together all of a sudden. Damn, I just want to figure everything out. I don't really know where to start. I guess I'll continue learning about the levels of consciousness first because that's most important and most interesting right now.

 

Am I going crazy, or will I feel differently when I come down? Am I even manic, I can't really tell anymore. I definitely have been feeling like I'm losing my mind and starting to wonder if other people are too. Do you think I've reached another level of consciousness and maybe I'm just thinking differently? I don't want to ever stop feeling like this. Is there a way I can make it last forever? IDK... my twin sis and I are going through the same things almost. She's paranoid just like me and says strange and weird things are happeing to her too. She doesn't live with me, but I know I can feel her emotions when we're apart. IDK... I just want to know if anyone knows what's going on with me cause I'm so lost and just really confused. I won't even lie... I'm half just looking for some reasurance that I'm NOT crazy and that this IS temporary. But at the same time, I'm hoping I am getting higher and reaching another level. I think this is long enough. THANK YOU so much.

 

- Chris

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John McManamy, Health Guide
6/17/09 9:38pm

Hi, Chrispy. Knowthyself has lots of words of wisdom in her answer. Here is my personal perspective:

 

Yes, mania or hypomania may be driving your spiritual quest, but that's okay, providing you keep things in perspective. I can well relate to what you are feeling. At various times in my life, I have wanted to know all the answers all at once, and all I kept seeing was a puzzle where the pieces wouldn't go into place.

 

Like you, I have explored Buddhism and Kundalini and drawn a lot of benefits from both. No doubt, you are looking into other areas, which I did (and still do), too.

 

Here's one thing I learned:

 

We are not meant to know the answers in advance. Rather, we are meant to struggle. From our struggles the answers emerge, and when they do they can either emerge in the form of eye-popping realizations or very subtle "Aha!" moments. In this regard, your puzzle metaphor is spot on. We don't expect to open the puzzle box with the pieces completely assembled, seeing the whole picture. We're meant to struggle with each piece of the puzzle.

 

If someone were to just give you the answers, it wouldn't be the same.

 

Let's extend the metaphor to: Life is a puzzle. There will always be pieces that don't fit. So the trick is to relax into meeting each daily challenge and in gaining wisdom from those challenges. Bit by bit, pieces fall into place. We learn, we grow, we become better people.

 

If you rush things or try to force the pieces to fit, you will become frustrated, which will impede your quest. Keep in mind, the Buddha stressed equanimity and the middle way. Also, keep in mind that Buddhism is all about applying reality to all that is around us.

 

Similarly, Kundalini is all about harmony and balance, and integrating ourselves into wholeness.

 

Many people - and this happened to me - can literally get "lost in space." So it is important at all times to be grounded. And one of the best way of keeping grounded is to not lose sight of things like school work and your career. Trust me, these things are important, and are not at all divorced from your spiritual path. Quite the opposite, they can be incorporated into your spiritual path. An example:

 

A teacher who is giving you a hard time is a perfect opportunity to practice bodhicitta, loving kindness. Don't worry about getting it perfect - no one does. But working on your loving kindness serves two purposes - you move your spiritual journey forward, plus you are better able to handle day-to-day dealings with people. And when that happens - guess what - you pick up a certain aura, a certain calm, a certain equipoise.

No blinding light revelations, perhaps, but you are beginning to become a master of yourself.

 

Also, with Buddhism, I stongly urge you keep reading and re-reading those opening lines from the Dhammapada. It's all about who's in charge of your mind - you or your random thoughts.

 

Trust me, you are far more advanced at your age than I was or than I was at a much older age or than perhaps I am now. I encourage you to keep exploring, but I also strongly urge you to stay grounded.

 

Also, if you feel that you are hypomanic, chances are your enthusiam will diminish as you cycle down. But oddly enough, in mildly depressed states your introspection will take your quest in new directions and add new dimensions.

 

Another thing: You have already met the criteria for courage. Our illness challenges us in ways that others can't imagine. Trust me, you have met this test, though you will be re-tested from time to time.

 

And finally: Your illness is part of your spiritual quest. It is a burden that we must contend with. But it is also like a mystical third eye that allows us to see things others don't. In a way, it is the gift of fire. A very powerful gift that needs to be used wisely.

 

Please keep checking in ...

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6/18/09 7:13am

  No.   I dont think you are crazy, actually i think you are smart in having

 alot of questions that are quite normal about life.

      you have the right to choose your own religion, to see life as you see it.

     Here signifies , to me, that you are going through a happy time , like a mania

  which makes us very sharp indeed.

              as long as you don t get too   ' high '  (too many racing thoughts)

 then i would just say,     enjoy it.

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6/17/09 12:49pm

Chris,

 

Let me respond to each of your paragraphs, so that you have a point of reference for my comments.

 

My new goal in life is to work on my personal growth and NEVER stop. There's 17 levels of consciousness and it's only possible to reach one at a time in order. Right now I might be in the level of Courage, which is special because it's the "gateway level". But I‘m not for sure if that‘s the right level I‘m on right now from just what I‘ve learned so far. I want to get to the highest level of consciousness possible by the time I die. I think that way my life will be worth living. When I die people will say, "She lived a meaningful, fulfilling life." I'm going to do a TON more of reading and studying about it and find out as much as I can so I can do this.

 

You have a new goal and it seems increased goal-directed behavior.  This is associated with hypomania and mania.  It is a common for individuals with Bipolar Disorder to report subjective feelings of increased awareness.  You are talking about conciousness here and with levels of consciousness comes a new perpective of yourself and the world around you.  It is much like learning a new paradigm, a new way to view the world.  These levels can be likened to developmental levels that are a natural part of growth and learning.  They cannot be forced.  With Buddhism, ascending consciousness comes form intense study and practice.  Here again, is growth and learning.  There really is no way to force the proccess.   If you are not already aware of the American Buddhist, Ken Wilber and his works, "A Brief History of Everything" is a good source for an insightful explanation of the deveopment of consciousness.

 

This is one of the things me and my sister were talking about earlier when I was convinced we could read eachothers minds when we were having a really deep conversation. We don't strive for good grades and we don't care about holding down a good job, or any for that matter (we're both 18). And we're not really interested in the whole college thing. It sounds like we're just lazy and don't care about life. But we just care about OTHER things. We both agreed we want to be here on earth for our own personal growth and to learn as much as possible about ourselves, reality, people, and the world around us.

 

Often with individuals that are very close and have had a lot of interaction is the perception that mind reading takes place, when it is more likely that intimate knowledge leads to correct anticipation of resposes.  As twins, often with the same temperament, growing up in the same environment and sharing some of the same experiences, lends to and increases understand of each other.  Personal growth is a good thing but is is best used to to better the world around you, the community at large.  To do that, going to college to pursue and avenue to do this will be more rewarding than sitting in a box and becoming enlightened.

 

IDK how to explain it. It's like the world is the big puzzle and each puzzle piece has a clue to what life is about. I have all the puzzle pieces right in front of me. I can figure it out if I sit here and focus on it even though it will test my attention span and take me much longer than I want it to and other things. I just have to keep thinking hard and study and research and find and ask and never stop asking and I can put all the pieces together in my head.

 

The world is a puzzle and it is from what perspective you view the pieces that determines what life is about for you.  The picture changes over time with learning new paradigms and from experiential leaning.  This is part of development, increased awareness, understanding and natural proccess of conscious evolution.

 

 

I've learned so much lately, I mean in months off and on, mostly when I‘m manic (I was diagnosed bipolar 1, rapid cyclling, by just searching the web. I've learned what the levels of consciousness are, I learned all about quantum physics and our reality, I have many theories on bipolar disorder and other "mental illnesses" from all perspectives, I've started meditating, I learned about the Kundalini awakenings, a little about Buddhism, I've been "pondering the meaning of life", I've been so open to others' perspectives, I think about death and afterlife, and I've been questioning the meaning of life along with doing tons of research on it. I've never been so into all this, at least not at once! But it's all coming together all of a sudden. Damn, I just want to figure everything out. I don't really know where to start. I guess I'll continue learning about the levels of consciousness first because that's most important and most interesting right now.

 

This new topic seems very exciting to you.  Consider that you are engaging in thoughts and behaviors that are giving you an emotional high.  It is rewarding to feel excited about what you are doing and engaging in it may perpetuate the positive emotions and escalate them.  This may lead to an emotional state you have no control of.  The reward of emotion may be part of what you seek and partly the motivation for your behavior.  Learning to disengage from this activity and come down to a normal level of emotion may be something you may consider.  It seems like this has become addicting.

 

Am I going crazy, or will I feel differently when I come down? Am I even manic, I can't really tell anymore. I definitely have been feeling like I'm losing my mind and starting to wonder if other people are too. Do you think I've reached another level of consciousness and maybe I'm just thinking differently? I don't want to ever stop feeling like this. Is there a way I can make it last forever? IDK... my twin sis and I are going through the same things almost. She's paranoid just like me and says strange and weird things are happeing to her too. She doesn't live with me, but I know I can feel her emotions when we're apart. IDK... I just want to know if anyone knows what's going on with me cause I'm so lost and just really confused. I won't even lie... I'm half just looking for some reasurance that I'm NOT crazy and that this IS temporary. But at the same time, I'm hoping I am getting higher and reaching another level. I think this is long enough. THANK YOU so much.

 

From your statement about your diagnosis, I am not sure if you have been diagnosed by a professional or not.  If you have not it would be good to know for sure.  What you are going through may or may not result in serious problems.  The emotion you are experiencing should not be equated with higher consciousness.  If you are seeking enlightenment you must not rush it, it is more of a natural proccess.  If you force the emotion and continue to seek the high, you may push yourself into an emotional state with more negative feelings of being lost, confused and paranoid.  If you continue to have these symptoms, do not hesitate to tell someone and seek help.  Bipolar Disorder can be serious.  Whatever the cause is behind your symptoms, it may be best to find out.

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10/14/09 11:06pm

here is my story:....Frowni think i  have been there. wondering about what is in the minds of others and the theory of life.  where i belong in this world.  i believe i have crossed many of the psychological "threshholds"  that there are and if i didn't, i don't want to.  now after 10 years of this or 1-3 more, i am almost "normal" so to speak.  so if you don't want to wait 10 years  start now.  Coolbut...i also believe  that you can use more than the 10% of your brain, like that the scientists know of.   think i am using alot more than that.  i am a psch major in my senior year for a batchalors dg.  i don't know what else to say except that i am bp to the max!

darkangel

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10/14/09 11:18pm

oh, yeah.  i forgot...i have grown so much scince i started dealing with bp, i am so different that if people couldn't see my bp they wouldn't recognize me!!! i am like a whole new and more exciting person.  i was reborn.  this could be due to as i just am  realizing as i write this, to my religion...?? i am so dif. that no one would be able to recognize my personality if questioned about it.  i had to use that courage to get over a big, the biggest obsticle...i have an illness and i made myself deaf to, well my soul/spirit/heart, deaf to "the voices" i don't have these hallucinations any more!!!  it took alot of courage to face it and let it go and...i was reading the word of god and use a scripture to pray and it went away...it seemed to have worked!!!?i am still growing and learing stuff after stuff.  i am almost done with the last peace of it.  the last piece is to fine-tune the minor symptoms of bp.  and hopefully be able to live better.  all of my major ones are in my complete controll!!!---i think?

darkangel

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By Chrispy— Last Modified: 10/26/11, First Published: 06/17/09