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Thanks Karen, I loved your post. Actually, our inner lives/inner worlds are so subjective, aren't they? I respect EVERYONE'S inner reality as reality, no matter if they are a saint or a madman. Sometimes there is a very thin line, anyways. I know a schizophrenic who has spiritual warfare going on inside all the time. I respect what he's dealing with, and while most people say it's hallucinations, it's actually real to him and so it's real. The only downside is that he can't control it, can't turn it off for a while and rest. But it's been said that the psychotic is drowning in the same ocean that the mystic is swimming with ease. At times I have had a "dark night of the soul", where I certainly feel crazy and am in a hell of sorts. It's very very spiritual and more real to me than the "real" world that we all share in common (the outer world).