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Q: Breast pain lumpy breast

I have been having breast pain, the other day it was hurting because I kept examining them and pressing on them because I wad told I had fibrocystic condition and my arm started hurting on the side my breast is on. Is that bad arm pain? My breast always feels lumpy on the left breast. The lumps hurt when I touch them.... Are harder lumps cancer? And arm pain? I HAVE had a hArd Lump coUld that be fibrocystic? THANks.

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PJ Hamel, Health Guide
9/ 7/10 6:57pm

Naturally lumpy breasts, or breasts with a lot of cysts and fibroadenomas, can be quite painful; and these conditions make it difficult to feel/notice any new lumps. Please read our post on fibrocystic change, and our post on breast pain for information you might find helpful. Your best bet might be to ascertain, via whatever diagnostic screening your doctor feels best (mammogram, MRI, ultrasound), that what you're feeling now is normal for you. Then, become very familiar with how your breasts feel; that way, going forward, you may find it easier to detect anything new/different. FYI, arm pain isn't a typical breast cancer symptom, nor is pain. Best of luck to you - PJH

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9/ 7/10 11:05pm

BUT SINCE MY ARM IS HURTING WHAT CAN BE THE CAUSE?? THAT SOMERINES HAPPEBS WHEN MY BREAST HURT ALOT. WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS OF FIBROADENOMAS AND BREAST CANCER? DO YOU HAVE A LINK? I ALSO HEARD FIBROCYSTIC CAN TURN TURN TO CANCER? THANKS

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9/ 7/10 11:53pm

Hi first off the pain in your arm more than likely is what is termed "radiating" pain. Think of it this way. Have you ever recieved a pinch maybe your arm and actually felt it in your leg? this is a natural happening as all nerve tissue is inter-related, and the nerves running through your breast towards the nipple are also running through your arm pit.

With that being said. Concerning the "lumps" can you be more specific and answer if you experience this pain when your period is approaching. Many times the breast are very sensitive during this time, also another contributing factor is the stress levels you are under as elevated blood cortisol levels can have a great influence on lumps, and blood circulating calcium levels as increased cortisol will cause the calcium levels to increase as more calcium in women is broken down from the bones under the stress of cortisol and what is worse is that the calcium is inhibited from reentering the bones and deposited in the breast tissue causing calcified lumps in the breast tissue which is a precurser to cancer.

 Concerning the "fibroid" type tissue. This is a fungal vegitation. Yes, many women who have frequent yeast infections (fungus, mostly Candida) also have lump breast tissue which results in fibroid cyst or tumors, many of which are actually not cancerous, but still a concern. These are over growths of fungus or commonly mold within the breast tissue.

There are many fungal pathogens that can cause the fibroid lumps and some of them are:

Streptomyces

Candida 

Pseudomonas
Staphylococcus
Streptococcus
Brucella melitensis
Corynebacterium
Mycoplasma
Escherichia coli
Klebsiella
Enterobacter
Arcanobacterium pyogenes
Proteus

But there are many more, and a simple blood, saliva, and urine culture will help to determine which one, or even if more than one are involved.

Another fantastic test is to have a cortisol test performed. Very simple using salivia. If you have elevated cortisol levels I assure you that it is aggrivating the breast issue.

Another factor of excessive cortisol levels is the unability to get to sleep and stay asleep.

If you have any more questions please ask

 

 

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PJ Hamel, Health Guide
9/ 8/10 4:45am

Lilia, I don't agree with everything "helpfulone" says. Please read the post on fibrocystic change, the original link to which is above. Fibroadenomas are an overgrowth of breast tissue, not a fungus. They don't "turn to cancer;" they may increase your chance of cancer very, VERY minimally, but researchers disagree on this. Mainly, they're annoying. My advice would remain the same: go for screening to set your mind at ease that you don't have cancer; then become familiar with how your breasts feel, so that you can tell if anything changes in the future. Good luck - PJH

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9/ 8/10 12:28pm

Sorry Wrong answer. Here are the facts.

 

Epstein-Barr virus has been linked to an increasing number of nonhematolymphoid conditions. Epstein-Barr virus was recently described in association with fibroadenomas of the breast.

 

I will continue:

 

The vast amount of women with lump breast syndrome (my term) are also immune system depressed.

These pathogens are "opportunistic" Which means that they are normally not a threat and live symbiotically within our bodies; however, due to a lowered state of immune response they will take hold and colonize.(lumps) These organisms form dense fibroid (fibers like strands of string) structures which when seen under a microscope resemble root systems.

 

These types of lumps are usually found in a higher ratio in women of child bearing years and the symptoms can be aggravated at the time of menstruation due to hormonal changes. These organisms thrive on these hormones, which explains why many women will have yeast (fungal) infections prior to their periods.

 

Harrison et al. (1993) did in fact verify through mycological testing that these lumps do indeed contain large amounts of Aflatoxin. Aflatoxin is a very potent cancer causative that is generated by the Aspergillus genus of pathogenesis fungus.

They are among the most carcinogenic parasites known to man. These Aflatoxins were detected in benign mastitis or lumps in most cases, and if left untreated can develop into cancer. These lumps also displayed a calcification or depositing of calcium in the lump and surrounding areas.

 

Breast lumps or better termed Mastitis in 60-90% of all women so afflicted, are suffering from a fungal overgrowth.

 

Eldridge et al. (1992)

This study on 5 women with breast lumps showed conclusively that dioxins from chlorine and other such halogen type toxins accumulate in the fatty breast tissues and are an attractant to parasitic fungal organisms that feed on such dioxins. In the 5 women all 5 tested positive for Aflatoxins produced by fungal parasites within the lump tissue.

 

Going et al (1990)

In women who had lumpy breast the lumps were biopsied and  tested positive for extreme levels of Oxalic acid (Mycotoxin) in fibroid breast tissue.

This type of toxin is produced from Aspergillus niger also known as BREAD BLACK MOLD, or toxic black mold.

 

Baker's yeast is used to make bread, a documented cause of breast cancer in Japanese women. Brewer's yeast is used to make many alcoholic beverages, all of which are known to cause breast cancer in every country where the connection has been investigated, a fact which is well documented.

 

More cases worth reading:

Leszczyszyn (1986)

Gibel et al (1979)

Schoental et al. (1979)

Huff et al. (1991)

Boorman et al. (1988)

Dupont et al. 1994)

 

Please Google the fungal organisms that have been stated here and you will see images of these parasites with their FIBROID structures, and to all others of this thread please continue to learn and do not stop at the headlines. It is o.k. to disagree, but please DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

 

 

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9/ 8/10 12:35pm

In conclusion.

Print out this post and take with you to your doctor, and have your doctor perform a tissue test on the lumps to specifically perform a mycology profile on the lump tissue and also look for aflatoxin, mycotoxin, or T2 toxins, which can come from the Fusarium organism that lives in all wheat, grains, cereals, ryes, barleys, oats, and yes, even n rice.

for more info Google Fusarium and T2 toxins

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Phyllis Johnson, Health Guide
9/ 8/10 6:01am

Pain in the left arm can be heart related.  Since you say the arm pain started after a breast exam, heart issues are probably not the cause in your case, but it's important to throw that possibility into the list of important things to think about when you experience pain in the left arm.  

Although cysts are more likely to hurt and breast cancer tumors almost never hurt, it really isn't possible for a person who is not a doctor to distinguish for sure.  Often even doctors can not be certain.  That's why so many biopsies end up being done for benign lumps.  If your pain and lumps come and go with your monthly cycle, you can just mention it at your next check-up.  However, now that you have done the research to get the basic information, don't worry yourself with trying to self-diagnose lumps and/or arm pain that is constant.  See your doctor.

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9/11/10 9:19pm

the dr had said it felt like breast mass clogged together since my breast change during breastfeeding. idk that sounds odd to me and that it didnt feel like cancer. i had an ultrasound im waiting for response. My arm pain is on my hand like in the front..sometimes on my upper hand. im scared its a bad sign?? since it happens when i have breast pain!! the lil lumps i have hurt. im just hoping everything turns out ok. im very concern

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PJ Hamel, Health Guide
9/11/10 11:27pm

Hi - Hand pain isn't  breast cancer symptom, so don't worry about that, OK? As Phyllis said, pain such as you describe is seldom a breast cancer symptom; and chances are this will turn out to be cysts, clogged milk ducts, or some other troublesome issue - but not cancer. Good luck - PJH

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