Has anyone had Triglyceride numbers like mine? (1909) please help

paymark64 Community Member December 07, 2008
  • NEED HELP!!!   

     

        How do i , as rapidly as possible, lower this scary number for my triglyceride levels at 1909.   I just got the numbers on Friday and as I was leaving my doctor said I should look out for symptoms of pancreatitis OVER THE WEEKEND!  Freaked me out, and i DID have a bad headache last night, which IS a symtom.

     

    If anyone has been in my postion or knows someone who has, can you please tell me ANYTHING that I might need to and want to know>??

     

    I take Tricor145 and a water pill currently along with vasotec for my high blood pressure.

     

    I'm 44 years old and realtively active and healthy.

     

    Binge eating is my problem.  I don;t have to be hungry when i get the cravings to eat, and i ENJOY the eating of the food, to the point of possibly having some OCD issues maybe.

     

    Anyway, I appreciate any solid help I could use in these next crucial few weeks....

     

    Thanks.

     

    Mark P. (NYC)

46 Comments
  • M.D.
    Aug. 27, 2014
    It's imperative that you lower your triglycerides ASAP! If you drink alcohol of ANY KIND stop immediately! If you use ANY KIND of recreational drugs, including cannibus, stop immediately! Consume NO refined sugars. No desserts. No ice cream. Cut your carbohydrate intake DRASTICALLY. Eat vegetables and fruits LOW IN FRUCTOSE. Berries are excellent. No bananas,...
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    It's imperative that you lower your triglycerides ASAP! If you drink alcohol of ANY KIND stop immediately! If you use ANY KIND of recreational drugs, including cannibus, stop immediately! Consume NO refined sugars. No desserts. No ice cream. Cut your carbohydrate intake DRASTICALLY. Eat vegetables and fruits LOW IN FRUCTOSE. Berries are excellent. No bananas, grapes, papayas, plantains, watermelon. Your physician should have requested another level drawn in 4 weeks. If not, I'd strongly encourage you to seek out an Internal Medicine Specialist or a different cardiologist! You need to be on a good medication to help faster reduction. All "Statins" get a bad rap, but are the lesser of the two evils in this case! Good luck to you my friend! M.D.
  • dattashri
    Jun. 16, 2014

    Dear Mark,

     

    Today I just checked my tg count and it is 1450.

     

    really im not worried about that. Im not taking any medicine at present.

     

    I will consult my doctor on 20 th and accordingly will start to have a medicien.

     

    Im 55 from India toal uncontrolled diabetis.

     

    Have u diabetis. Start garlic for redeucing tg. it makes miracles....

    RHMLucky777

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    Dear Mark,

     

    Today I just checked my tg count and it is 1450.

     

    really im not worried about that. Im not taking any medicine at present.

     

    I will consult my doctor on 20 th and accordingly will start to have a medicien.

     

    Im 55 from India toal uncontrolled diabetis.

     

    Have u diabetis. Start garlic for redeucing tg. it makes miracles.

     

    I dont care much for TG as garlic takes care of the same.

     

    Lets be in touch

     

    Shrikrishna

     

     

  • Anonymous
    Tim
    Jan. 10, 2014

    On July 1, 2013 my pancreas shut down due to toxic levels of trygylcerides. My blood sugar was also toxic. 12 days in ICU was enough to motivate me to change everything. I only use sesame, canola and olive oil to cook- no exceptions. Mayonaise is out. Helman's makes a good hybrid that I use spairingly. I use Brummel and Brown as a butter substitute.  I...

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    On July 1, 2013 my pancreas shut down due to toxic levels of trygylcerides. My blood sugar was also toxic. 12 days in ICU was enough to motivate me to change everything. I only use sesame, canola and olive oil to cook- no exceptions. Mayonaise is out. Helman's makes a good hybrid that I use spairingly. I use Brummel and Brown as a butter substitute.  I strive to have 60g of carbs per meal and about 15g per snack. I don't always make that, though. I've cut out pork and red meat. Ground turkey is a slightly sweetier alternative to beef, and turkey bacon is surprisngly good. I have built in a few exceptions with my doctor's permisson. I have 1 desert a week and 1 no-no meal a week, too- never at the same time. Spacing them out means every couple of days I can have the occasional bacon cheese burger or ice cream. I work out 5-6 days a week. Its time consuming, but so is a 12 day hospital stay. I usually swim, ride an bike or work a punching bag for cardio. Hope this helps!

  • Anonymous
    noof
    Apr. 29, 2012

    hello

     

    my brother who is 25yrs old has triglycerid of 4000. he had suffered from pancreatitis . he was on medication before and it lowered it for awhile but it came back again, he is not on a proper diet but doesnt eat much of junk food.

    we tried many things but they were of not much help

    can some one tell me a very quick remedy i can use to prevent this...

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    hello

     

    my brother who is 25yrs old has triglycerid of 4000. he had suffered from pancreatitis . he was on medication before and it lowered it for awhile but it came back again, he is not on a proper diet but doesnt eat much of junk food.

    we tried many things but they were of not much help

    can some one tell me a very quick remedy i can use to prevent this from happening. and what i can do soo it doesnt return

    i am really scared that it would return

    i want a proper solution which can help us fast

     

     

    thank you soovery muchSmile

  • jassen
    Oct. 27, 2010

    i have chol levels in the 500-600 and trygly's in the 1500's i am in good shape no other problems i am wondering if anyone has knowledge of an article written about 15 years ago about a group of people in italy with extreme levels and live to be in their 80's with no meds. it was in their genes. i am trying to locate this news article.

  • Anonymous
    George Richardson
    Jan. 15, 2010

    My doctor found the issue about 35 - 40 years ago. I have been taking meds since then. When my blood was first checked for Cholesterol the lab said we know it is 1,000 that is as high as we can check. Since it is not recommended that you take both meds I have my blood drawn every 4 - 6 months to check for liver issues. Once in a blue moon I have been asked...

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    My doctor found the issue about 35 - 40 years ago. I have been taking meds since then. When my blood was first checked for Cholesterol the lab said we know it is 1,000 that is as high as we can check. Since it is not recommended that you take both meds I have my blood drawn every 4 - 6 months to check for liver issues. Once in a blue moon I have been asked to stop for 6 weeks or so to check for my unmedicated levels. My doctor who started me on meds and treated me for many years is retired. I see him around and he and I talk about how no one will believe how high my test were. With meds my Cholesterol is within limits and my Triglycerides are high about 250. My doctor says that is not an issue considering where it has been. My last unmedicated test was only 3 - 4 weeks and they shot up but not to the levels of past test.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Dec. 14, 2009

    Just got back from the doc's office and she's telling me I need to lay off meat,carb's, sugar, and eat some oatmeal every morning. Does anyone know what are the risk factor's with level's lie mine? Am i a ticking timebomb?

    • Anonymous
      Crys
      Mar. 24, 2010

      Hi I am 29 and was just released from the hospital with acute Pancreatitis two days ago. Come to find out my Trig levels were 3,350. It was the absolute worst pain I have ever been in and the longest week of my life. Take care of those levels ASAP or you could experience the same fate.

       

  • Anonymous
    Steve
    Oct. 14, 2009

    Hi, I have very high triglycerides (over 3000). The very first thing to do is cut carbohydrates. Your ability to metabolize them isn't working right. The next is definetly cut fats as much as possible. Next, Excersise, this will help your body to utilize your insulin the way in which it is intended. Lastly, no sweets they do not react well with high triglycerides. ...

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    Hi, I have very high triglycerides (over 3000). The very first thing to do is cut carbohydrates. Your ability to metabolize them isn't working right. The next is definetly cut fats as much as possible. Next, Excersise, this will help your body to utilize your insulin the way in which it is intended. Lastly, no sweets they do not react well with high triglycerides.  Medications help but will not probably get you to normal. I'm 50 and having been fighting this since 28. The really important part of this is to watch out taking too many meds!!!! My liver is now permanetly messed up because of meds. I was on in the past.

  • Anonymous
    mefromhere
    Aug. 03, 2009

    Trig down from 1700 to 200 in one month on 135 mg Trilipx and 20mg pravastatin.  After 4 months trig down to 83.  My doctor said that was almost unheard of.  I also lost about 10 to 15 lbs. and have cut out quite a bit of fat from my diet.  The only bad thing is some muscle cramps.

  • Anonymous
    Particle Shift
    May. 14, 2009

    If your trigs are high most likely that means your hdl is low (low hdl is linked to memry loss)  An easy way to get everything under control is to take the proper steps.  There is a new drug that came to the market this year (Trilipix 135) it will get your 1900 tgs down to prob about 700 or so, if hdl is low you want to take Niaspan 1000mg not...

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    If your trigs are high most likely that means your hdl is low (low hdl is linked to memry loss)  An easy way to get everything under control is to take the proper steps.  There is a new drug that came to the market this year (Trilipix 135) it will get your 1900 tgs down to prob about 700 or so, if hdl is low you want to take Niaspan 1000mg not any of the over the counter niacin due to not knowing exactly what you get in itl.  If your LDL or bad choletsrol is not at 70 or below then a statin such as crestor 10mg would be perfect.  Its more important now to look at each cholesterol number independently not as a total.  The reason is that each class (LDL, HDL, and Trigs) are all independent risk factors.  There is know need to pay for an expensive fish oil that is prescribed to you, there are tons of other fish oils out there that are just as good that would save you a ton more.  Ideal levels you really want to go for is LDL 70 or below, HDL 45 and above, Tgs 150 and below. The edicine will do what it is suppose to do than the Lord will take care of the rest.  Hope this helps God bless

    • Anonymous
      Bill
      May. 21, 2009

      Is it Okay to take tricor and fish oil pills together daily. I guess i'm worried side effects with combining both of these.

       

      Thanks in advance

      Bill

       

       

    • Anonymous
      IM/IT
      May. 23, 2009

      After 6 weeks of niacin therapy my trigs dropped from over 8500 to just over 150.  My cholesterol went from 1265 to 156.  I was taking 1500mg when I got up in the morning and 1500 at bed time.  Occasional flushing occured, they were slow release.  The flusing, though annoying, was harmless.  Please have Dr. run tests on liver before...

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      After 6 weeks of niacin therapy my trigs dropped from over 8500 to just over 150.  My cholesterol went from 1265 to 156.  I was taking 1500mg when I got up in the morning and 1500 at bed time.  Occasional flushing occured, they were slow release.  The flusing, though annoying, was harmless.  Please have Dr. run tests on liver before attempting this and any other therapy.  now eat salmon and mackeral 3-4 times per week.  I feel better and now stad a chanc of seeing my kids graduate highschool!  My doctor says that tricor and fish oil are a good combination.  I like the fish.  Try flax!  It is good if you don't like the fish.  Also,  if your Doc says it's OK,  try toincrease your niacin.  It worked a miracle for me.  It also didn't hurt that I had 3 church groups praying for me.  Gods blessing on your endeavor to get healthy.   

    • Anonymous
      Particle Shift
      May. 24, 2009

      Hi Bill,

       

      there is a new medicine that is a little easier on the liver called Trilipix.  It is the next step of tricor. Tricor is already pretty safe with combining it with medicine but trilipix is a little better due to its safety profile and that new FDA indication to use with a statin (Crestor/Lipitor/Simvastatin).  You can can combine...

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      Hi Bill,

       

      there is a new medicine that is a little easier on the liver called Trilipix.  It is the next step of tricor. Tricor is already pretty safe with combining it with medicine but trilipix is a little better due to its safety profile and that new FDA indication to use with a statin (Crestor/Lipitor/Simvastatin).  You can can combine trilipix or tricor with fish oil and will most likely not have any side effects due to it not going through the same pathway in the body. If the fish oil is too expensive for prescription, over the counter or eating fish twice a week are the same thing. 

       

      There are a couple test out there that really break down your cholesterol. 

      CIMT - tests the plaque in your artery by doing an ultra sound on your neck. 

      NMR - tests partickle size...the bigger particle the better. 

      KIFF-6 - this is a genetic test to cut to the chase on which therapy would work best for you.  Hope this helps and God bless

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Apr. 24, 2009

     have documented tryglyceride level over 8500 .  Yes .  No typo.  Over8,500. cholesterol over 1,200.  I'm still walking.  The Dr. is working on it with niacin therapy and tricor among other things.  Good luck and keep on top of it with your Doctor.

    • Anonymous
      particle shift
      May. 14, 2009

      see if the dr will swicth you over to trilipix 135, it has less liver enzymes which means its nicer to your liver, see if you can bump your niaspan up to 2000mg, get on Crestor 10mg or 20mg,  This should help out and even out your lipids.  I would also encourage you to stay away from alcohol and meat and eat fish(salmon) twice a week not fish oil...

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      see if the dr will swicth you over to trilipix 135, it has less liver enzymes which means its nicer to your liver, see if you can bump your niaspan up to 2000mg, get on Crestor 10mg or 20mg,  This should help out and even out your lipids.  I would also encourage you to stay away from alcohol and meat and eat fish(salmon) twice a week not fish oil pills

    • Anonymous
      IM/IT
      May. 23, 2009

      I'll ask my Doc but my insurance usually won't pay for the new stuff.  Thanks for the suggestion. Last liver check wasstill good!

  • paymark64
    Jan. 03, 2009

    Hi everyone and thanks much for sharing your stories and for your suggestions.   I have eliminated red meats and dairy from my diet, eating only soy, veggies, and fish.  Excercise is a bit more difficult since I mostly ride a bike and it's Winter.  But I have been walking alot more.  I lost 12 pounds in less than two weeks and to my...

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    Hi everyone and thanks much for sharing your stories and for your suggestions.   I have eliminated red meats and dairy from my diet, eating only soy, veggies, and fish.  Excercise is a bit more difficult since I mostly ride a bike and it's Winter.  But I have been walking alot more.  I lost 12 pounds in less than two weeks and to my surprise I did not gain any over the holidays while I was home with the family.  So thats good news.

     

    I get my Tri's tested again in about 2 weeks.

     

    Here's hoping.

     

    Thx again for your responses.

     

    Mark

    • Anonymous
      TS
      Jan. 29, 2009

      Mark,

      I hope your aggressive changes in diet and exersize are continueing and helping! How are you trigs now? I am a medical assistant in a family doctors office right now and a pre-med student at a large university as well. We have many patients that are working on this same issue. The biggest thing that seems to help with the dozens of people we help out...

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      Mark,

      I hope your aggressive changes in diet and exersize are continueing and helping! How are you trigs now? I am a medical assistant in a family doctors office right now and a pre-med student at a large university as well. We have many patients that are working on this same issue. The biggest thing that seems to help with the dozens of people we help out is a complete change in diet. One big thing with trigs is carbohydrates. There are the simple carbs and the complex carbs. Simple carbs are your sugars and fats. Complex carbs are your breads and pastas. You might want to drop the simple carbs completely if you haven't already, and then do not exceed the suggested intake of complex carbs. With meats, fish is better than chicken, which is better than pork, which is better than beef. Basically stay as light as possible with meat and eat in extreme moderation until those trig numbers come down. If you lost 12 pounds from December 12 to January 9, you are doing great with the work outs. Definetely keep that up! I hope youa re doing great now and hopefully you had a lower number this last time you got it checked. Best wishes to you man!

    • Anonymous
      Rhonda
      Feb. 23, 2009

      You can bring your numbers down, I'm a diebetic, cholesterol 750 try's 4,400. this was 1 1/2 years ago in 6 months I lost 25 lbs I work out daily and watch what I eat most of the time now My last reading was cholestrol 99 and try's 79 WOW waS that a shock . Med's...tricor, lipitor and lavaza. I have sinced dropped tricor and getting ready to drop more....

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      You can bring your numbers down, I'm a diebetic, cholesterol 750 try's 4,400. this was 1 1/2 years ago in 6 months I lost 25 lbs I work out daily and watch what I eat most of the time now My last reading was cholestrol 99 and try's 79 WOW waS that a shock . Med's...tricor, lipitor and lavaza. I have sinced dropped tricor and getting ready to drop more. Also a insulin dependant 12 years. I no longer depend on it I just take a pill, no more shots.  The KEY lose alittle weight EXERSIZE and watch the bread and desserts. It REALLY WORKS

      RhondaWink

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Dec. 25, 2008

    Mark,

     

    When my hyperlipidimia it was over 3000.  It took a while to manage it and now my levels are all within norms.

     

    I suggest you find a good heart lipid clinic.  The one that provided me my success is the Midwest Heart Lipid Clinic located in the Chicago suburbs of Naperville and Bolingbrook.

     

    Here is a link to their website...

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    Mark,

     

    When my hyperlipidimia it was over 3000.  It took a while to manage it and now my levels are all within norms.

     

    I suggest you find a good heart lipid clinic.  The one that provided me my success is the Midwest Heart Lipid Clinic located in the Chicago suburbs of Naperville and Bolingbrook.

     

    Here is a link to their website and the doctor that brought my levels under control.  http://www.midwestheart.com/physician?id=m9J8hOnRp8HjBM5Ky-2x6g

     

    I moved away from the area 6 years ago but fly back once a year for my annual visit.  The nursing staff is fantastic and keep regular tabs on me.

     

    Good luck!

     

     

  • Sue
    Sue
    Dec. 15, 2008

    Hello Mark and thanks for posting.  Welcome to our community.  It looks like you have gotten many responses to your question - which is great!  It definitely sounds like diet is something you are going to have to focus on.  Here are a couple of links that might be helpful:

     

    Low Cholesterol Diet

    Posts by our Expert Dietician

     

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    Hello Mark and thanks for posting.  Welcome to our community.  It looks like you have gotten many responses to your question - which is great!  It definitely sounds like diet is something you are going to have to focus on.  Here are a couple of links that might be helpful:

     

    Low Cholesterol Diet

    Posts by our Expert Dietician

     

    Please check back with us so we can see how you are doing.

     

    All the best, sue (moderator)

     

     

  • Anonymous
    MIracle cured
    Dec. 14, 2008

    I had high Triglycyrides..1286 ..did not want to take chemicals to avoid side effects.

     

    omeopathic treatment

    colestrinum 3x 3 times a day 4 pills

    Porridge oats for breakfast

    herb medicine shuddh gugullu twice a day

    and cut out fried or oily foods

     

    it worked like a miracle...in 4 weeks i am at 158

    good luck..

    MIRACLE

  • Anonymous
    Ragamuffin1002
    Dec. 11, 2008

    My husband and I both have high triglycerides also, not as high as yours.  But our doctor told us to take fish oil caps, you can get them over the counter any where.   just follow the directions on the bottle, usually twice a day for the 1000 mg.  We just started this ourselves so I cant say how well it works but I thought it was worth passing...

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    My husband and I both have high triglycerides also, not as high as yours.  But our doctor told us to take fish oil caps, you can get them over the counter any where.   just follow the directions on the bottle, usually twice a day for the 1000 mg.  We just started this ourselves so I cant say how well it works but I thought it was worth passing on since it is a fairly cheap and safe way to start trying.  Hope it helps you.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Dec. 11, 2008

    My husband had high triglyceride over 1000.  Nothing seemed to work until he started taking Lavaza (2 pills twice a day) and a strict diet with exercise.  His results are now around 200.  Good luck! 

    • Anonymous
      angelalazarus
      Apr. 20, 2012

      im a 27 year old stay home mom. I got my results back from my doctor and he said my triglycerides were 2020. I am now taking Lovaza. Seeing your post has calmed my anxiety a great bit. I've been having panic attacks since i got told my result (which was tuesday). Im so worried about dying and leaving my family behind. I keep thinking im gonna die today or the...

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      im a 27 year old stay home mom. I got my results back from my doctor and he said my triglycerides were 2020. I am now taking Lovaza. Seeing your post has calmed my anxiety a great bit. I've been having panic attacks since i got told my result (which was tuesday). Im so worried about dying and leaving my family behind. I keep thinking im gonna die today or the next. I'm glad to know that im not the only one going through this. I'm just wondering, how long will it take for my results to go down? I take 4 pills a day and im eating veggies, fruits, oats, nuts, fish, etc. I try my best to exercise, but not to overdue myself. I've been looking for others like myself, who are dealing with this. I would like to continue to chat with as many people with the same situation im in, I guess for support, since my family really doesnt know how i feel. If you or anybody else would like, you can email me (SouthernGirl71067@yahoo.com. Hopefully all the positive feedback i've been reading will help keep my sanitly and calm my nerves so i dont keep having panic attacks everyday.

    • jillian
      Apr. 20, 2012

      My husband had good results in 6-8 weeks.  Now it is totally under control.  Smile  Don't switch to generic.  It doesn't work as well.  Stick with 4 pills a day.  Insurance may challenge it.  But your doctor can insist it is medically necessary.  It is worth the extra $$.  

  • Anonymous
    Lynne
    Dec. 11, 2008

    Prescription fish oil is unnecessary and expensive. Get See Yourself Well Professional Grade Fish Oil capsules. If you can't find them have a look at www.nutratecls.com. Take 3grams a day (3 capsules) and watch the TG reading drop within a few days. Has worked time and again for my patients.

    • Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Dec. 13, 2008

      I agree but I found the fish oil made by Allergy Research company through doctor advice by friends at work works very well.  My triglicerides have a count now of 68, and I take the pills twice a day.  I also take 250mg of SloNiacin once a day at night, which probably helps also.

    • mrs
      mrs
      Jun. 30, 2010

      Taking Slo Niacin at 250 mg per day is a waste. Two reasons: 1) Slo Niacin at that dosage is grossly indadequate. Nicotinic acid needs to be dosed @ 1-2 gms per day. 2) Slo Niacin can potentially bring about hepatotoxicity due to it only utilizes the oxidative metabolism pathway. Best bet is to use a prescription niacin in the form of NIASPAN. Niaspan is the...

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      Taking Slo Niacin at 250 mg per day is a waste. Two reasons: 1) Slo Niacin at that dosage is grossly indadequate. Nicotinic acid needs to be dosed @ 1-2 gms per day. 2) Slo Niacin can potentially bring about hepatotoxicity due to it only utilizes the oxidative metabolism pathway. Best bet is to use a prescription niacin in the form of NIASPAN. Niaspan is the only prescription Extended Release niacin on the market. Everything else is an unregulated dietary supplement. Niaspan utilizes two different metabolism pathways.... oxidative and conjugative. This lessens the 'flush' associated with 'initial' niacin therapy. This dual channel of metabolism also negates the hepatotoxic risk associated with products live 'Slo Niacin'. (products like "NO FLUSH" DO NOT WORK to reduce CV risk as the niacin absorption is effectively 'blocked' by the no flush inhibitor). Niaspan is a 'preferred branded prescription product' on > 95% of the U.S. Managed Care plans due to its efficacy in reducing 'recurrent MIs by 27% and ability to slow and regress atherosclerosis'. Both indications are FDA approved at dosages of 1 gm to 2gm per day.

    • mkatz2m
      Jul. 01, 2010

      Everyone needs to try things that suit themselves.  I usually have a very low tolerance to most drugs and minimal doses work just fine for me. The 250mg SloNiacin does a good job increasing my HDL chol. count by 20%. That product is also has a time release ability that is finished in 12 hours.  I have found out that it is not smart to take a Niacin...

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      Everyone needs to try things that suit themselves.  I usually have a very low tolerance to most drugs and minimal doses work just fine for me. The 250mg SloNiacin does a good job increasing my HDL chol. count by 20%. That product is also has a time release ability that is finished in 12 hours.  I have found out that it is not smart to take a Niacin product that stays in your system all of the time. I may increase the SloNiacin once-a-day dosage to 500mg if my HDL is still below 40, which will be tested later this year.  I know that no-flush Niacin does not work; the SloNiacin is not the same thing.

    • ruavol2
      Jul. 23, 2009

      I have been consistently shooting a 1050-1100 for the last 3 Tg tests. And 250-260 on Cholesterol. I have Flax seed oil 1000 mg (That is Omega 3 right) that I stopped taking and should not have.

      Is Flax seed as good as Fish Oil? or is fish oil better?

      I cook with Smart Balance oil for fish and eggs Smart Balance Light butter for everything...

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      I have been consistently shooting a 1050-1100 for the last 3 Tg tests. And 250-260 on Cholesterol. I have Flax seed oil 1000 mg (That is Omega 3 right) that I stopped taking and should not have.

      Is Flax seed as good as Fish Oil? or is fish oil better?

      I cook with Smart Balance oil for fish and eggs Smart Balance Light butter for everything that needs it.

      I eat Blue Cheese on my salads very little.

      My only vice is I go through about 1.2 gallons a week in milk with shreaded wheat and cheerios. I fear you will tell me to stop the milk......and I pray you don't. Mama said that they could have saved a fortune if they could have bought a dairy cow and hooked me up to a udder and left me out back to nurse.....?!

      Could 1% or Skim Milk be doing this? I do not drink anything heavier.

       

      I have also had in the last 2.5 years several Lyphomias (I think that is how you spell it) The first started in my neck and was a lump on my lymp gland or it just was my lymp gland that kept going from soft to slightly less than an large English pea not quite as hard as a pea though. At that same time had one pop up on my sternum as well. had doctor check 3 times and finally got a biopsy and after many many many many sticks to my neck the Onc said "All I can find is FAT" Okay So I am about 35 lbs overweight. 6'2" 235. I exercise 2-3 times a week and what I do in endurance impresses 90% of the YMCA in my small town. I do serious reps not just a hundred. I do 1000's It takes me hours. But I do them. I burn about 2200-2500 cals per workout.

      In the last 4 months I had one pop up on my inside left mid-calf area. The neck and the leg can ache at times and is very uncomfortable.

      I take Wellbutrin as it has helped my ability to focus. I drink lots of water...plenty.

      I did a CBC, Full Metabolic & Lipid Panel. Even tested a 3rd time for HIV. All Neg 

      These things are either too high or low.

      Chol 258, TriGly 1049, HDL is Low at 33, VLDL 210MG/DL, Chol-HDL RiskRatio=8, Gluc (Just over Ref 65-100) at 107

       

      I have been looking at this hyperlipidemia thing. Does this sound suspect to you. Please advise and thank you so very much for looking at this. What a wonderful world it is to have this site to ask and inquire.

       

    • Anonymous
      joe blo
      Apr. 07, 2010

      i see that you left your comments clear last year, but in answer to your question, there is a very significant difference between flaxseed oil and fish oil, although i can't remember the details.  i only remember that i had read about it pretty extensively because i was taking a combination of flax & fish and the conclusion was replace the flax with...

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      i see that you left your comments clear last year, but in answer to your question, there is a very significant difference between flaxseed oil and fish oil, although i can't remember the details.  i only remember that i had read about it pretty extensively because i was taking a combination of flax & fish and the conclusion was replace the flax with all fish because the flaxseed supplies your body with the ingredients necessary to convert into the HDL but the body doesn't convert it into very much.  plus in men if you take alot of it your estrogen levels can skyrocket until you're singing baratone (i'm exaggerating).  just go with more fish which provides your body with the HDL directly instead of vicariously.  there's really nothing you're missing by switching.

    • ruavol2
      Apr. 07, 2010

      Thank you for the reply. Update on me I have had consistently high tri's up till about a month ago. I went to a special clinic locally called "The Cardiology Associates" a network of clinics. They have pretty much changed my life with a close look at my diet. Emphasising on the cautious side but not punishing me permanently. Lots of high quality fruits and...

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      Thank you for the reply. Update on me I have had consistently high tri's up till about a month ago. I went to a special clinic locally called "The Cardiology Associates" a network of clinics. They have pretty much changed my life with a close look at my diet. Emphasising on the cautious side but not punishing me permanently. Lots of high quality fruits and vegatables and the occasional vegatable pizza and Wendy's burger thrown in to keep life interesting and not misarable. Still have not been able to get the skim but I am hung up on Mayfields Nurture 1% Milk which has Acidopholis and some other supposed immune building ingredients. I have wondered if their ingredients could be causing this. I have called them and they say their milk should not be raising my Tri's.

      Back to The Cardiology Associates....they have looked at everything and are seriously committed to doing things O'natural where possible. Without forcing Tricor Zocor and every other kind of core down my throat. they did suggest two things one over the counter the other a high quality Omega-3. Went to Walgreens and got the perscription Lovaza a very high quality true 1000mg of Omega-3 and found out from The Cardiology Associates Group that all Omegas are not the same. I also had bought a brand called Finest Natural 1000 mg of Omega-3 from fish oil.  The doctor explained to me about the importance of EPA Eicosapentaenoic Acid and DHA Docosahexaenoic Acid. They explained that when I took 2 softgels which made the user think he was getting 2000mg of Omega fish oil was only getting a total of 600mg of EPA and DHA which is the real fish oil. So I was only getting 300mg of Omega-3's per pill and the rest is filler......Shocking a bottle of pills that does not have in it what it says it does. Kind of like the whole Red Rice Yeast problem that the drug companies forced off the market becuase the simple product was too good and competed against their medicines which guess what ......Yup they have Red Rice Yeast in them.....bastards......FDA agreed with them as the natural remedy clearly lowered cholesteral and was therefore deemed a drug and had to be regulated by the drug companies. How convenient. Force a less expensive product off the market so that Phizer, Lilly and GSK can control the price and who can afford it instead of making it available to the masses at Walmart.

      Anyway got off track there as the Red Rice Yeast is a solid sore spot. Back to the Omega-3's So what I was encouraged to try was 3000 to 4000mg a day of Omega-3's which would drop my Cholesterol and Triglycerides by upwards of 35% so I either had to take 10 to 12 of the over the counter Finest Natural or 3-4 of the Lovaza.It has worked and my Tri's are comming down. Now with dietary fine tuning and staying away from the Brie cheese the day before a cholesterol check.

      The Side effects of taking that much of Omega-3's

      1.) I stay full longer and eat less at meals have lost many cravings for foods

      2.) I stay in a very happy and content state of mind

      3.) I have had fewer headaches and body aches

      4.) I have no craving for fish

      5.) My wifes says I smell like a can of Tuna

      I will reply to the post when I get my latest check comming up in a few weeks. thanks again.

      One thing I would ask everyone in the forum is how do we change the FDA. One of the most confusing controlling and in my humble opinion the most corrupt government run organizations in the United States. If I could I would wait till that place is empty of people rent a bulldozer and bulldoze that place to the ground and have an all American panel to totally re elect every employee and change the laws that comes out of that corrupt place. Believe me I understand the reasoning for having some control but what have they done for us really? I do not know if they control the drug companies or the drug companies control the FDA. That Red Yeast Rice argument says it all for me and it did truly lower my cholesterol. But the FDA controls what you can get now and have forced the availability of natural over the counter pills so they can put the same ingredients in their own pills charge 4 times as much and give you a pure form. We could have gotten that ourselves if the FDA and drug companies would have allowed it. Consumer demand would have created it. My final example is my Lovaza comes in a bottle of 120 pills, is natural crushed down from anchovies and other fish and it costs $120 per bottle. My Finest Nature comes in 350 pill bottle for $15 dollars a bottle but I do have to take 10-12 pills instead of 4. No big deal if I save $105. it disgusts me how much money the drug companies make all in the name of science for us. Right! Well I challenge anyone to find anyone who works anywhere in the Pharmaceutical industry that does not drive a $40k car and has a company car has a $500k home and live like kings. Not that there is anything wrong with living well but is it at the expense of the rest of us? Are we paying for the gluttony of others. And by the way when do the food companies become responsible for the crap they put in their foods. Like partially hydrogenated oils. That is a whole other conversation there.

       

    • mrs
      mrs
      Jun. 30, 2010

      If you don't want a purified / controlled omega 3 in the form of Lovaza.... then exercise your U.S. citizenship freedom to do your own homework and find an alternative. If you can stay out of the hospital, live a longer life than the generation before you without taking prescription drugs.... do it. But don't try to condemn one of the World's Finest Industries...

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      If you don't want a purified / controlled omega 3 in the form of Lovaza.... then exercise your U.S. citizenship freedom to do your own homework and find an alternative. If you can stay out of the hospital, live a longer life than the generation before you without taking prescription drugs.... do it. But don't try to condemn one of the World's Finest Industries which happens to be dominated and still standing within the U.S. by denigrating the great scientific and life prolonging value this industry has provided to nut jobs like you. How idiotic and totally off base you are. If you did not have the desire to practice medicine, or work in the healthcare field -> then don't belittle the folks who did / do / are as anything other than outstanding folks who have made a postive difference in the health status of others.  Last I checked..... the U.S. is still a free capitalistic society. How dare you claim you are 'paying for the pharma industry employees' lifestyle. Most individuals I know in the industry have worked extremely hard to get into the industry, have no less than 4 years of college..... many have graduate level educations and put in numerous hours to keep up with the demands put on them.  Get a life little minded person -> or better yet, learn your facts before you spot off tiny people hyperbole.

    • Anonymous
      DaytonaJim
      May. 04, 2011

      re Red Yeast Rice - it IS available - just picked it up at Walgreens, 600mg, 120 capsules. Buy one get one free this week.

    • Anonymous
      Anonymous
      Jul. 28, 2012

      Please see the following

      http://nccam.nih.gov/health/redyeastrice?nav=upd

       

      It notes that RYR contains the same substance as Statins and also RYR may also contain a contaminent that is toxic.

    • Anonymous
      joe blo
      Apr. 07, 2010

      oh!  i nearly forgot to tell you that i plow through gallons upon gallons of milk too but i do so guilt free because i switched to all skim milk.  skim has zero saturated fat in it which is the stuff that clogs your arteries (artheriosclerosis).  at first you think it's water, and the whole experience is very disappointing.  however come...

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      oh!  i nearly forgot to tell you that i plow through gallons upon gallons of milk too but i do so guilt free because i switched to all skim milk.  skim has zero saturated fat in it which is the stuff that clogs your arteries (artheriosclerosis).  at first you think it's water, and the whole experience is very disappointing.  however come in from a hot summer day and reach for a gallon of skim, and you'll think it's great.  you adapt, and before long when you go try 1% for old time's sake you'll feel like you're drinking a guinness it'll be so thick. 

       

      also consider trying soymilk.  it's a different taste but similar and i actually like it.  you can also get chocolate soy, and even soy ice cream, like cookies & cream soy!  the saturated fat level per cup of 2% milk is 16% of daily recommended saturated fat intake whereas for soy it's only 3% which is well within tolerable limits.  the difference for a scoop of dairy ice cream and soy is even bigger, where dairy is usually around 30% or more and soy is usually only 3% per scoop!  see?  you can have your milk and ice cream and eat them too after all.

       

      you're welcome.

    • Anonymous
      Sallee
      Apr. 09, 2010

      You are working out hard and sounds like you are eating right. Your doctor is not doing you any good however.. realize that this could be hereditary not a self caused disease. Has anyone in your family had a heart attack or stroke? if so this further increasees your risk.  I was shocked when I got on this site and people are talking about triglycerides...

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      You are working out hard and sounds like you are eating right. Your doctor is not doing you any good however.. realize that this could be hereditary not a self caused disease. Has anyone in your family had a heart attack or stroke? if so this further increasees your risk.  I was shocked when I got on this site and people are talking about triglycerides in the 700s even the 1000s!! NCEP guidelines say your Triglycerides should be under 200; if they are higher they recommend a fibrate or nicotinic acid. both have many years of data. fish oil does not. HDL for men should be greater than 40, for women greater than 50. For a high risk person LDL should be 70 or less; avg person 100-130. Please check out NCEP guidelines find a Dr to give you the right meds before you have an event.

    • Anonymous
      sandy k
      Apr. 01, 2013

      almond milk is the way to go!

  • Anonymous
    ronnie
    Dec. 09, 2008

    i had 1640. i went on a fat free diet for 60 days and that got them down to 760. i cut out all sugar and took a pill called Ezetrol. my levels are now around the 400 mark. so as much as you hate it, the diet is a must. as for the pills there are dozens on the market. just remember to watch your CPK, a lot of the pills on the market that contain satins up this...

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    i had 1640. i went on a fat free diet for 60 days and that got them down to 760. i cut out all sugar and took a pill called Ezetrol. my levels are now around the 400 mark. so as much as you hate it, the diet is a must. as for the pills there are dozens on the market. just remember to watch your CPK, a lot of the pills on the market that contain satins up this enzyme !

     

    good luck 1

    • Anonymous
      mbeak
      Dec. 09, 2008

      I've had my blood tested twice and seen results of 7428 for triglycerides, and 927 for cholesterol.  My doctor was alarmed to say the least.  Turns out it's a result of a condition called mixed hyperlipidemia (there are other, similar conditions as well).  Basically my body doesn't process fat very well which results in very high levels of fat...

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      I've had my blood tested twice and seen results of 7428 for triglycerides, and 927 for cholesterol.  My doctor was alarmed to say the least.  Turns out it's a result of a condition called mixed hyperlipidemia (there are other, similar conditions as well).  Basically my body doesn't process fat very well which results in very high levels of fat in the blood.  After going on a diet of no red meat, and extremely low carbs, as well as taking tricor and prescription fish oil i got my cholesterol down to 199 and triglycerides down to 400.

       

      My understanding is that simple carbs are the worst, because they break down very quickly into fats (lipids).  So pasta, white rice, potatoes, most breads, and basically any starchy foods are out of the question.  I have a low-carb diet not just because it's the latest and greatest diet fad out there.

       

      You may also want to look into insulin resistance and elevated blood sugar levels (after fasting) if you're a binge eater, especially if you like starchy foods.

       

      The biggest thing i can recommend is that you eat a balanced and healthy diet, and exercise regularly.

  • skunkdad
    Dec. 09, 2008

    Mark

     FIRST MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE FASTING FOR AT LEAST 12 HOURS BEFORE YOUR BLOOD IS DRAWN .

     iF THE REPEAT IS SAME , HAVE YOUR DOCTOR PRESCRIBE A COUPLE OF STATINS . I AM ON ZETIA AND MY CHOLESTEROL IN 150 . I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY TRIGS AS A DIABETIC , SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK FOR DIABETES . BUT YOU HAVE TO EAT RIGHT , LAY OFF THE ACOHOL ...

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    Mark

     FIRST MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE FASTING FOR AT LEAST 12 HOURS BEFORE YOUR BLOOD IS DRAWN .

     iF THE REPEAT IS SAME , HAVE YOUR DOCTOR PRESCRIBE A COUPLE OF STATINS . I AM ON ZETIA AND MY CHOLESTEROL IN 150 . I HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY TRIGS AS A DIABETIC , SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK FOR DIABETES . BUT YOU HAVE TO EAT RIGHT , LAY OFF THE ACOHOL  AND EXERCISE . IF YOU ARE OVER WEIGHT , LOSE IT.

      I AM TRYING MY BEST TO EAT RIGHT , IT'S TOUGH .FINDING TIME TO EXERCISE IS ALSO TOUGH .

     

                   regards Barry

  • Anonymous
    Gail
    Dec. 08, 2008

    Hi. I recently had my blood work repeated and my triglycerides were up;  however not as high as yours.  I also Tricor.  But this time, due to my triglyceride levels increasing more, my doctor added Lovaza; which is a prescription form of omega-3.  I just started taking it today.  I know this isn't alot of help; but maybe you should...

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    Hi. I recently had my blood work repeated and my triglycerides were up;  however not as high as yours.  I also Tricor.  But this time, due to my triglyceride levels increasing more, my doctor added Lovaza; which is a prescription form of omega-3.  I just started taking it today.  I know this isn't alot of help; but maybe you should read about Lovaza and see if your doctor thinks it would help you.

    Good luck!

    • Anonymous
      rebekah watts
      Dec. 27, 2011

      i just got my results today and mine were at 1050, they were over 6000 when i had my acute pancreas attack... i also take tricor, and the numbers not getting better and im scared that ill end up with another attack and be in hospital again.. do u think my doctor will prescribe me with some also??

    • Subhash
      Nov. 09, 2012

      do not worry dear i also had 1365 . i started feno fibrate 200mg and 90minute walk.iam also chronic alchoholic. after 2 month i went for test and it was surprising that my level is now 77 keep your activities regular

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      do not worry dear i also had 1365 . i started feno fibrate 200mg and 90minute walk.iam also chronic alchoholic. after 2 month i went for test and it was surprising that my level is now 77 keep your activities regular

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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