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Statins & Pain
cfronkin
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 10:36 AM -
Niacin & Statins
Susan715NY
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 10:47 AMI am a 55 year old woman who is very physically fit and eats very healthy. My good cholesterol is very high, but unfortunately so is my bad cholesterol. I was initially put on Zocor for my hereditary form of high cholesterol. I immediately started experiencing muscle pain and weakness. My cardiologist switched me to Simcor - which DOES contain a statin like Zocor, but also contains prescription strength niacin which is though to better address the familial aspects of my high cholesterol. I do not seem to be (yet) experiencing the same muscle pain and fatigue from this medication. It comes in different dosage levels of the statin - and I'm on the lowest one - so maybe this is why. It's a good idea to check with your doctor on dosage levels, because I read that with drugs like Lipator, the dosage level of the statin is much higher than people without heart disease may need. I am not advocating splitting pills or self-medicating - please discuss with your doctor. Another thing that I take is the supplement red yeast rice, a natural statin (in time-release pill form). There are many different brands, and as supplements are not regulated like medications, make sure you buy a reputable brand. In addition, I was also advised to take CoQ10 - another supplement that works in conjunction with the statins to lower cholesterol. I will tell you that the side effects from the prescription strength niacin can be VERY uncomfortable. It is called "flushing" and the sensation is like being a thermometer - you feel the heat rising up through your body - your ears get red and hot and then the rest of you follows. You look like you have a bad sunburn - and it itches like poison ivy. This can last for up to an hour. I searched for advice on how to mitigate this effect and have found the best solution (for me). I take a baby aspirin 1/2 hour before - then I take the Simcor with food and follow it immediately with LOTS of water - at least 16 ounces - preferably more. Best to take the medication around dinner time so that you can comfortably drink that much water before bedtime. Spicy foods, hot liquids and alcohol can exacerbate the effects of the flushing - so best to avoid those near the time you take your medication. Lastly - I eat a lot of steel cut oatmeal to help lower my cholesterol. I was never a fan of regular oatmeal - but the steel cut (which takes a half hour to cook) is great - especially when you doctor it up with brown sugar, cinnamon and craisins. Hope this information is helpful - especially remember the water after taking niacin!
re: Niacin & Statins
Christina Lasich, MD
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 07:32 PMThank you for sharing your insight into the alternatives to cholesterol-lowering medications. I especially like your input about how to tolerate Niacin.
As a fan of steel-cut oats and oat groats, I offer this advice to those who don't have a half hour to cook breakfast. Soak the grains overnight and you can eat them raw in the morning. Now that is a healthy breakfast with very little effort.
Dr. Christina Lasich, MD
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statins, stopping
jerry hesch
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 01:15 PM -
STATINS!
doxiemama707
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 01:56 PMI'M SEEING MY INTERNIST ON THE 29TH AND SHOWING HIM THIS ARTICLE!
I'VE BEEN OFF OF MY STATIN FOR 8 WEEKS- COINCIDENCE-MY PAIN HAS DECREASED BY 50% ??? AM GETTING LAB WORK DONE AND HOPEFULLY I WON'T BE ON STATINS ANYMORE! I'VE ALSO CHANGED MY DIET & LOST 70 LBS SINCE LAST JANUARY.
re: STATINS!
tjhelser
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 04:52 PMI want to offer my congrats! As a women in her 50's and someone who lives with chronic pain and have done so for over 20 years I am encouraged by comments like yours. I also would like to thank you for offerring up such positive statements.
It has been a long time struggle to get where I am and to know that meds I'm taking for other health issues (high cholestrol) may be fighting against everything else I'm doing to minimize my pain is dis-encouraging for sure.
I also will be taking this article along to my next DRS. appointment and will discuss all the alternatives I've read here.
Best of luck to you and your journey~
Tonij
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Lipitor
Anonymous
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 06:50 PMMy pain began while I was taking Lipitor. I only took it for one year and by the end of that year I could barely move. The muscles in my legs became painful first, then my hips, arms, shoulders, higher back, and up into my head. After quiting Lipitor the pain did not subside. It has only gotten worse. I am told it has nothing to do with the Lipitor because my blood does not have the right antibodies or something. So I sit with so much pain on somedays that I can not type. I even had a swelling in my left hand that itched. Well, my left shoulder itched. When I scratched it I felt it go down my arm and then felt the scratching on my hand. I am seeing a nerologist in October but it is frightening because I do not have health insurance. No one will insure me and I am too young for medicare. Since I go to a 'free'clinic they will not give me any pain medication. They think I am drug seeking. Actually I am relief seeking
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Hooray! Less is better
Christina Lasich, MD
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 07:43 PMThe less medications the better; just by promoting health, doctors will find the cure for these preventable diseases like high cholesterol within their grasp. I am so surprised when another doctor refers a patient who has chronic pain due to a "statin" medication. Does it really take a specialist to figure this one out? Please share this information and carry the torch for: "Promote Health, Not Medications".
Dr. Christina Lasich, MD
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Statins can cause more than pain
reruho
Friday, September 25, 2009 at 11:40 PMI had been on a statin ( Vytorin, Zocor, then back to Vytorin with Niaspan) for period of 18 months. These drugs reduced my mildly elevated TC of 218 down to a TC of 105. I flipped out. I stopped sleeping, became depressed, started bleeding again and went hormonal. I stopped the Vytorin and I became a normal person within 3 days.
When my cholestrol dropped to 105, no one could tell me what was too low for cholesterol and I was asking everyone. Everyone would remark how wonderful my numbers were. I was thinking if these numbers are so great why do I feel like crap? "Lower is better", is a mantra sold to doctors by the pharmacuitcal companies without talking about what is too low. Too low is very dangerous.
Cholesterol is not something evil in your body, it is needed by your body properly function. Cholesterol is a problem when the levels get too high.
Reta
re: Statins can cause more than pain
Hazel B.
Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 06:22 AMI have been on crestor for 2 years. The pain began with my skin being painful to touch. Because I have mild Fibromyalgia I ignored it. About 6 weeks ago my muscles became so painful I could not sit, lay or walk. No Crestor for 3 weeks now and still pain tho a little bettter. How long does it last? Or does it ever stop? I would really like to get back to my life.
re: re: Statins can cause more than pain
reruho
Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 09:14 AMHazel,
I started feeling better within days but I did not have the muscle pain most people have. I began to feel like a normal person when my cholesterol levels went up. I am convinced my TC had dropped below 100 by the time everything hit the fan. My doctor prescribed an antidepressant for the depression caused by the situation. The antidepressant turned me into a zombie and caused my pain to skyrocket. I stopped the antidepressant after 8 days and everything improved within days, again.
MY ADVICE IS QUESTION YOUR DOCTOR IF YOUR TC GOES BELOW 150. ASK WHAT IS TOO LOW AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET AN ANSWER.
My mother had a terrible time with pain and weakness in her arms from the statins. She saw a reduction in her arm pain in a week but it has taken several weeks for the muscle ache to completely go away. This was the second time this happened. I researched statins and told her it was probably the statin and told her to bring it to her doctor's attention. The doctor pooh-poohed the thought of the statin causing her arm pain.
Reta
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This is very interesting!
KRAZYKAT
Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 01:21 AMAll too interesting! My husband was just put on Pravastatin, and I have been looking it up. Just trying to learn all about this situation he finds himself in. I feel like I learned a lot just reading this article...I am going to ask some questions come Monday, that is for sure. He just told me tonight he already is getting a headache, he thinks from the med., and he doesn't even know the side effect of it. Thanks for writing on this topic!:>)
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CoQ10
LaughSing
Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 01:50 AM -
Cholesterol lowering medication Statins
Sam
Friday, October 02, 2009 at 12:59 AMI was put on statins several years ago and the doctor had the lab run tests every month and the test always came back with higher levels than it should. He asked me every time if my muscles where sore or achy. Usually they werent and I would say no. Some times they really hurt but I thought it was because I was working outside, doing work that I shouldnt. He took me off the statins any how and put me on Niacin. This didnt work either. Finally he put me on Colestipol and I have been on it ever since.
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Anonymous
Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 10:29 AM -
statins and a supplement called Slo Niacin
Anonymous
Monday, November 16, 2009 at 08:00 PM
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I had to cease taking statins because of muscle pain. I did switch to Red Rice Yeast and Omega 3 fish oils along with increasing exercise (warm water lap swim), eating lots of salmon and mackrel and following a food plan which reduces body inflamation (anti inflamatory diet). My cholesterol is now within normal range. I am hypothyroid with MS so lots of drugs are contraindicated and one must find alternativies. Thanks to the Andrew Weil MD and Jim Mercola DO web sites which have helped more than my pharmacy trained physicians.