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Husband has back issues (was on Percocet). Now diagnosed ADD (on Vyvanse). What's worse?

By Tisha Friday, April 03, 2009

My husband has back issues (fusion L1 L2 L3, pinched nerves, herniated disc).  Was on Percocet for over a year.  Percocet controlled the pain but he had an "No worries" attitude.  We run our own business and since being on the pain meds he would have the attitude that he would eventually get things done...but no worry, no hurry....whereas before being put on Percocet he would work round the clock and hustle, get out and talk to people and sell people on our service.  He stopped the Percocet...went cold turkey and suffered a few days but got through it.  Been 5 weeks now.  He went to a family doctor and had bloodwork done (all routine) because he has never had it done...to check cholesterol, iron, etc.  (he is 36).  After talking with the doctor about having problems with his legs at night (I thought RLS), not being able to get out of bed in the morning, unmotivated.  She diagnosed him with ADD and gave him Vyvanse 30 mg. once a day.  Worked great the first day.  But doesn't seem to help as well.  He has only been taking it since Tuesday.  I guess my question is this:  Which is worse to be on long term?  Percocet or Vyvanse?  What are the long term effects of both?  I would greatly appreciate any help with this. 

Karen Lee Richards, Health Guide
4/ 4/09 3:20am

It's hard to compare Percocet and Vyvanse because they're two completely different medications for two completely different purposes and can't really be taken interchangeably.  Percocet is an opioid pain reliever and Vyvanse is a central nervous system stimulant that affects chemicals in the brain which contribute to hyperactivity and impulse control. Both cause physical dependency and will result in withdrawal symptoms if stopped abruptly.  Here are links to information on both medications so you can see the details concerning both:  (Be sure to read the Precautions and Side Effects sections.)

 

Percocet

Vyvanse

 

As far as long-term effects, I don't know enough about Vyvanse to answer that.  The greatest long-term danger with Percocet would come from the acetaminophen it contains, since too much acetaminophen can damage the liver and/or kidney.  The only long-term effect I know of for oxycodone (the other ingredient in Percocet) is that the body builds up a tolerance for it and the dosage must eventually be increased to maintain pain relief. 

 

The bottom line is that if your husband has pain issues that are interfering with his ability to function and work, he probably needs a pain reliever.  There are other options that don't have so much of a sedating effect as Percocet does – like tramadol or hydrocodone.  Depending on the type of pain, low-dose antidepressants or anti-convulsants like Lyrica and Neurontin may also be effective.  On the other hand, if he has ADD-type problems, then Vyvanse may be more appropriate.  He and his doctor will have to work that out together. 

 

For any ADD-related questions, I'd suggest you visit our ADHD site, ADHDcentral.com  They'll be able to give you much better answers than I could since that's their area of expertise.

4/ 4/09 10:04am

After reading my post and your response I guess my question is more this...His pain is not constant in his back, but can be aggravated where he may need to eventually take something to get him through (probably not Percocet because of the no worries attitude..and the fact that he was taking it all day he would take it even if he had no pain...which led to taking increased amounts, taking it to get him up in the morning, taking it to keep him up until all hours of the night if he had to finish a job. So the main benefit other than the pain relief was the motivating feeling it gave him.  The adverse being he started being dependent on it for that motivating feeling, not so much for the pain.  He has always had issues with temper, explosiveness, not really thinking before he talked, did very poorly in school.  When I first started dating him almost 20 years ago my family members accused him of being a "coke-head" because they said he was constantly moving, hyper...I knew he wasn't.  He is not the type of person who will do "recreational drugs".  Tried pot as a teenager once, hated it, never did it again.  Tried coke once as a teenager, same thing.  Not a drinker either...maybe a beer on New Years' if your're lucky. 

 

Now, his sister (a nurse), her 2 kids and his father all suffer from ADD.  His dad was never diagnosed but has a really short fuse, violent explosive temper on occasion.  He explained to the doc all what I am telling you...she said ADD...but we won't give you Adderall due to the "high-risk" of abuse.  Gave him Vyvanse 30 mg.  Worked great day 1.  But every day since has not had the same effect.  He feels a "heaviness in his chest",  after a few hours his eyes feel "really tired", doesn't feel "motivated" to do what he needs to do in his daily life.  Why does this med make him feel this way.  In addition to the Vyvanse he takes an occasional Naproxen, has taken Trazodone at night to sleep.  Other than those meds. he takes nothing else.  He was drinking energy drinks for a few days but noticed they made him feel dizzy when he stood up (since taking the Vyvanse).  Was drinking like 3 a day for a couple days and then stopped when he started the dizziness.  She he request his doc switch him to Adderall and see if he has the same reaction?

Karen Lee Richards, Health Guide
4/ 5/09 6:56pm

The heaviness your husband is feeling in his chest concerns me because some of the more serious side effects of Vyvanse can be cardiac problems.  I'm by no means an expert on ADD medications, but according to my drug guide, Vyvanse has the same "high risk of abuse" warning as Adderall, so I'm not sure what his doctor's reasoning was.  Perhaps she's had other patients who have responded better to it.  But I would suggest your husband tell her about the side effects he's experiencing as well as how it is/is not working to see if he should continue taking it or if he could try Adderall or another medication.  You might also try asking your questions about ADD medication on our ADHD site since they have much more experience and expertise in that department than I do.  Here's the link:  ADHDcentral.com

 

As for his back pain, since it's not constant, he may want to try some treatments other than medication, such as a TENS unit.  Here's some info on TENS units:   http://www.healthcentral.com/chronic-pain/treatment-36204-5.html  Or, if he does need some medication, there are other pain relievers (like tramadol) that don't have quite the dependency problems that Percocet does.  Of course, any opioid medication used every day will eventually cause dependency problems.  It's important to only use them when he's actually having pain that is severe enough to interfere with his functioning.

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