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Pharmacist altered my pain prescription to prevent me from filling it, had to cancel travel plans.

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Has anyone had problems with Pharmacists filling their prescriptions. Today I brought my prescription in and the he refused to fill it saying that my insurance company would not pay for it until the 30 days was up on my previous prescription. This was a brand new prescription not a refill. When I sai...
  1. DEA
    Dean
    Monday, March 30, 2009 at 12:04 AM

    Your problem is with your doctor not your pharmacist. He is the person that has documented that you not have a refill for 30 days after your last prescription was filled. It doesn't matter if you pay for it or insurance pays for it because of the Schedule of the Narcotic. You did not write what it is but I am assuming it is Oxycodone or Fentanyl, Morophine etc. Once the doctor writes that the pharmacist can't refill it for 30 days. DEA Regulations.

     

    I have had this happen with Xanax but I was allowed to pay for the prescription because of the Schedule. My insurance would not pay though because it was 4 days too early even though I had a new prescription. I was going on vacation and would have run out of medication so I had to pay the full price for it.

     

    If people didn't abuse or use medication illegally these things would not happen to those that really need it.

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    re: DEA
    Redhen1919
    Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 12:11 PM

    Thanks for responding. I do not take a schedule I or II medication. I take hydrocodone 5/500 mg every four hours. Correct me if I am wrong, but I was told that anything below 15mg of hydrocodone is a schedule III. That amounts to 30mg of Hydocodone per day.

     

    My previous prescription which had not quite expired was not limited to a 30-day supply. The new one limited me to a 30-day supply. This is not the first time that this pharmacist has harassed me. Last month he delayed refill until after I had run out of medication. In July 2008, he did not fill it at all, luckily I had a old prescription available. They have even put a different doctor's name on my presciption which makes it look like I am doctor shopping.

     

    My activity level is that I am in bed most of the day. Am I seriously undermedicated, yes. Can do anything about it. I have begged and pleaded with my doctor and he will not increase my medication. He actually reduced my medication when I told him that the side affects of the morphine were making me sleep all day.

     

    I agree that my physician is also culpable, but it is time for pharmacists and doctors to be held accountable for abusing their chronic pain patients. Why are they allowed to break the law.

     

    One thing a did learn is that Walgreens does not care. I am filing a complaint with the pharmacy board because it is illegal for anyone to alter a prescription after it has been written. Prescriptions are legal documents.

     

     

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    Problems with pain control.
    Surviver48&counting
    Tuesday, March 31, 2009 at 05:04 PM

    My advice to you is to STOP going to this pharmacy, isn't there others in your town?  And YES, I understand completely how we are treated like criminals, less that dirt on the street.  It is inhumane.  Until people gather and fight this kind of treatment by going to their state houses and protesting nothing will change.  They (Doctors) are forgetting, we did not make these pain medications, the pharmacutical industry has heavily advertisted that it is good, normal, acceptable, to try new drugs to better own lives.  This is not congruent with what is happening when patients want and ask for better care.  I have actually read several articles in which they advise the patient to have a written list of question to take along to your Dr's appointment. This is to help the patient focus on questions and problems if they forget or may be nervous and intimadated by a DR.  When I followed this advice a couple of times all of the reactions I got from the Dr's was that they were annoyed, stated 'lets just focus on one issue at a time, I don't have time to address these issues today and various rude comments.  Dr's are forgetting that we are the consumer they are being paid for a service, we (the patient should be the most important person in this relationship)  Dr's take an oath when they become Dr's   'DO NO HARM'.  I have had more than one Dr do harm in the form of talking down to me, treating me like a child, acting superior towards me, and passing judgements that have nothing to do with my presenting physical injuries or diagnostic problems.  I beleive that The U.S. has the most expensive health care system in the world that is the worst in the world.  That is my personal opinion, but, I'm I'd bet on it  that  the statistics would back up that statement to some degree.  Beleive me when I tellyou many of us have been S--t on and something does have to be done soon!!!! Survivor48&counting

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    re: Problems with pain control.
    Redhen1919
    Friday, April 03, 2009 at 12:20 AM

    Transportation here is very difficult for people in wheelchairs, bus ramps don't work and the sidewalks do not have curb cuts. During winter they stopped clearing snow and ice off the sidewalks and parking lots so I am virtually a prisoner in my apartment during the winter.

     

    Paratransit is available. They will not transport me if I cannot get my wheelchair across the parking lot without assistance. The weather is better I can catch Paratransit. Will I  have the same problems at a new pharmacy? Sometimes it is better to deal with the devil you know than one you don't know.

     

    My neighbor offered to help me and I paid him for gas, but when I refused to buy a car he stopped helping me. He tried to take advantage of me. When I don't take pain medication I am totally dependent on someone else and at their mercy.

     

    I stopped taking opiod pain medication for over a year because the doctors refused me medical treatment. When my arthritis worsened, they prescribed diclofenac. I started having shortness of breath after taking this medication. I was hospitalized and they start doing all sorts of heart tests. I was told not to travel or drive, but not why.

     

    I had a heart attack. They never told me.  Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs for arthritis can cause heart attacks. They gave me this drug although they knew that I had a previous heart attack when I was 36 years old. Now I wonder if that heart attack was caused by the medication, they gave me for my arthritis.

    They tell everybody that opiod medication is dangerous and addictive. I am not addicted and I have never had a life threatening side effect. On the other hand, the non-opiod medication probably caused my heart attacks. I have some risk factors for heart problems now, but I had one risk factor when I was 36 years old.

     

    One doctor told me that he is amazed that I am still alive. I refuse to die a meaningless death. I am trying to prolong my life so that I can leave a legacy for my children. Why would I abuse a medication that would shorten my life not prolong it?

     

    Thank You

    Redhen

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    re: re: DEA
    Dean
    Wednesday, April 01, 2009 at 08:19 AM
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    Schedule I SubstanceDEA NumberNon NarcoticOther Names 1-(1-Phenylcyclohexyl)pyrrolidine 7458 N PCPy, PHP, rolicyclidine 1-(2-Phenylethyl)-4-phenyl-4-
    acetoxypiperidine 9663   PEPAP, synthetic heroin 1-[1-(2-
    Thienyl)cyclohexyl]piperidine 7470 N TCP, tenocyclidine 1-[1-(2-
    Thienyl)cyclohexyl]pyrrolidine 7473 N TCPy 1-Methyl-4-phenyl-4-
    propionoxypiperidine 9661   MPPP, synthetic heroin 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-
    ethylamphetamine 7399 N DOET 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine 7396 N DMA, 2,5-DMA 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine 7390 N TMA 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine 7400 N MDA, Love Drug 3,4-
    Methylenedioxymethamphetamine 7405 N MDMA, Ecstasy, XTC 3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-
    ethylamphetamine 7404 N N-ethyl MDA, MDE, MDEA 3-Methylfentanyl 9813   China White, fentanyl 3-Methylthiofentanyl 9833   Chine White, fentanyl 4-Bromo-2,5-
    dimethoxyamphetamine 7391 N DOB, 4-bromo-DMA 4-Bromo-2,5-
    dimethoxyphenethylamine 7392 N Nexus, 2-CB, has been sold as Ecstasy, i.e. MDMA 4-Methoxyamphetamine 7411 N PMA 4-Methyl-2,5-
    dimethoxyamphetamine 7395 N DOM, STP 4-Methylaminorex (cis isomer) 1590 N U4Euh, McN-422 5-Methoxy-3,4-
    methylenedioxyamphetamine 7401 N MMDA Acetorphine 9319     Acetyl-alpha-methylfentanyl 9815     Acetyldihydrocodeine 9051   Acetylcodone Acetylmethadol 9601   Methadyl acetate Allylprodine 9602     Alphacetylmethadol except levo-alphacetylmethadol 9603     Alpha-Ethyltryptamine 7249 N ET, Trip Alphameprodine 9604     Alphamethadol 9605     Alpha-Methylfentanyl 9814   China White, fentanyl Alpha-Methylthiofentanyl 9832   China White, fentanyl Aminorex 1585 N has been sold as methamphetamine Benzethidine 9606     Benzylmorphine 9052     Betacetylmethadol 9607     Beta-Hydroxy-3-methylfentanyl 9831   China White, fentanyl Beta-Hydroxyfentanyl 9830   China White, fentanyl Betameprodine 9608     Betamethadol 9609     Betaprodine 9611     Bufotenine 7433 N Mappine, N,N-dimethylserotonin Cathinone 1235 N Constituent of "Khat" plant Clonitazene 9612     Codeine methylbromide 9070     Codeine-N-oxide 9053     Cyprenorphine 9054     Desomorphine 9055     Dextromoramide 9613   Palfium, Jetrium, Narcolo Diampromide 9615     Diethylthiambutene 9616     Diethyltryptamine 7434 N DET Difenoxin 9168   Lyspafen Dihydromorphine 9145     Dimenoxadol 9617     Dimepheptanol 9618     Dimethylthiambutene 9619     Dimethyltryptamine 7435 N DMT Dioxaphetyl butyrate 9621     Dipipanone 9622   Dipipan, phenylpiperone HCl, Diconal, Wellconal Drotebanol 9335   Metebanyl, oxymethebanol Ethylmethylthiambutene 9623     Etonitazene 9624     Etorphine (except HCl) 9056     Etoxeridine 9625     Fenethylline 1503 N Captagon,amfetyline,ethyltheophylline amphetamine Furethidine 9626     Gama Hydroxybutyric Acid (GHB) 2010 N GHB, gama hydroxybutyrate, sodium oxybate Heroin 9200   Diacetylmorphine, diamorphine Hydromorphinol 9301     Hydroxypethidine 9627     Ibogaine 7260 N Constituent of "Tabernanthe iboga" plant Ketobemidone 9628   Cliradon Levomoramide 9629     Levophenacylmorphan 9631     Lysergic acid diethylamide 7315 N LSD, lysergide Marijuana 7360 N Cannabis, marijuana Mecloqualone 2572 N Nubarene Mescaline 7381 N Constituent of "Peyote" cacti Methaqualone 2565 N Quaalude, Parest, Somnafac, Opitimil, Mandrax Methcathinone 1237 N N-Methylcathinone, "cat" Methyldesorphine 9302     Methyldihydromorphine 9304     Morpheridine 9632     Morphine methylbromide 9305     Morphine methylsulfonate 9306     Morphine-N-oxide 9307     Myrophine 9308     N,N-Dimethylamphetamine 1480 N   N-Ethyl-1-phenylcyclohexylamine 7455 N PCE N-Ethyl-3-piperidyl benzilate 7482 N JB 323 N-Ethylamphetamine 1475 N NEA N-Hydroxy-3,4-
    methylenedioxyamphetamine 7402 N N-hydroxy MDA Nicocodeine 9309     Nicomorphine 9312   Vilan N-Methyl-3-piperidyl benzilate 7484 N JB 336 Noracymethadol 9633     Norlevorphanol 9634     Normethadone 9635   Phenyldimazone Normorphine 9313     Norpipanone 9636     Para-Fluorofentanyl 9812   China White, fentanyl Parahexyl 7374 N Synhexyl, Peyote 7415 N Cactus which contains mescaline Phenadoxone 9637     Phenampromide 9638     Phenomorphan 9647     Phenoperidine 9641   Operidine, Lealgin Pholcodine 9314   Copholco, Adaphol, Codisol, Lantuss, Pholcolin Piritramide 9642   Piridolan Proheptazine 9643     Properidine 9644     Propiram 9649   Algeril Psilocybin 7437 N Constituent of "Magic mushrooms" Psilocyn 7438 N Psilocin, constituent of "Magic mushrooms" Racemoramide 9645     Tetrahydrocannabinols 7370 N THC, Delta-8 THC, Delta-9 THC and others Thebacon 9315   Acetylhydrocodone, Acedicon, Thebacetyl Thiofentanyl 9835   Chine white, fentanyl Tilidine 9750   Tilidate, Valoron, Kitadol, Lak, Tilsa Trimeperidine 9646   Promedolum Schedule II 1-Phenylcyclohexylamine 7460 N Precusor of PCP 1-Piperidinocyclohexanecarbonitrile 8603 N PCC, precusor of PCP Alfentanil 9737   Alfenta Alphaprodine 9010   Nisentil Amobarbital 2125 N Amytal, Tuinal Amphetamine 1100 N Dexedrine, Biphetamine Anileridine 9020   Leritine Benzoylecgonine 9180   Cocaine metabolite Bezitramide 9800   Burgodin Carfentanil 9743   Wildnil Coca Leaves 9040     Cocaine 9041   Methyl benzoylecgonine, Crack Codeine 9050   Morphine methyl ester, methyl morphine Dextropropoxyphene, bulk (non-dosage forms) 9273   Propoxyphene Dihydrocodeine 9120   Didrate, Parzone Diphenoxylate 9170     Diprenorphine 9058   M50-50 Ecgonine 9180   Cocaine precursor, in Coca leaves Ethylmorphine 9190   Dionin Etorphine HCl 9059   M 99 Fentanyl 9801   Innovar, Sublimaze, Duragesic Glutethimide 2550 N Doriden, Dorimide Hydrocodone 9193   dihydrocodeinone Hydromorphone 9150   Dilaudid, dihydromorphinone Isomethadone 9226   Isoamidone Levo-alphacetylmethadol 9648   LAAM, long acting methadone, levomethadyl acetate Levomethorphan 9210     Levorphanol 9220   Levo-Dromoran Meperidine 9230   Demerol, Mepergan, pethidine Meperidine intermediate-A 9232   Meperidine precursor Meperidine intermediate-B 9233   Meperidine precursor Meperidine intermediate-C 9234   Meperidine precursor Metazocine 9240     Methadone 9250   Dolophine, Methadose, Amidone Methadone intermediate 9254   Methadone precursor Methamphetamine 1105 N Desoxyn, D-desoxyephedrine, ICE, Crank, Speed Methylphenidate 1724 N Ritalin Metopon 9260     Moramide-intermediate 9802     Morphine 9300   MS Contin, Roxanol, Duramorph, RMS, MSIR Nabilone 7379 N Cesamet Opium extracts 9610     Opium fluid extract 9620     Opium poppy 9650   Papaver somniferum Opium tincture 9630   Laudanum Opium, granulated 9640   Granulated opium Opium, powdered 9639   Powdered Opium Opium, raw 9600   Raw opium, gum opium Oxycodone 9143   OxyContin, Percocet, Tylox, Roxicodone, Roxicet, Oxymorphone 9652   Numorphan Pentobarbital 2270 N Nembutal Phenazocine 9715   Narphen, Prinadol Phencyclidine 7471 N PCP, Sernylan Phenmetrazine 1631 N Preludin Phenylacetone 8501 N P2P, phenyl-2-propanone, benzyl methyl ketone Piminodine 9730     Poppy Straw 9650   Opium poppy capsules, poppy heads Poppy Straw Concentrate 9670   Concentrate of Poppy Straw, CPS Racemethorphan 9732     Racemorphan 9733   Dromoran Remifentanil 9739   Ultiva Secobarbital 2315 N Seconal, Tuinal Sufentanil 9740   Sufenta Thebaine 9333   Precursor of many narcotics Schedule III Amobarbital & noncontrolled active ingred. 2126 N Amobarbital/ephedrine capsules Amobarbital suppository dosage form 2126 N   Anabolic steroids 4000 N "Body Building" drugs Aprobarbital 2100 N Alurate Barbituric acid derivative 2100 N Barbiturates not specifically listed Benzphetamine 1228 N Didrex, Inapetyl Boldenone 4000 N Equipoise, Parenabol, Vebonol, dehydrotestosterone Buprenorphine 9064   Buprenex, Temgesic Butabarbital 2100 N Butisol, Butibel Butalbital 2100 N Fiorinal, Butalbital with aspirin Chlorhexadol 2510 N Mechloral, Mecoral, Medodorm, Chloralodol Chlorotestosterone (same as clostebol) 4000 N if 4-chlorotestosterone then clostebol Chlorphentermine 1645 N Pre-Sate, Lucofen, Apsedon, Desopimon Clortermine 1647 N Voranil Clostebol 4000 N Alfa-Trofodermin, Clostene, 4-chlorotestosterone Codeine & isoquinoline alkaloid 90 mg/du 9803   Codeine with papaverine or noscapine Codeine combination product 90 mg/du 9804   Empirin, Fiorinal, Tylenol, ASA or APAP w/codeine Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone 4000 N Oral-Turinabol Dihydrocodeine combination product 90 mg/du 9807   Synalgos-DC, Compal Dihydrotestosterone (same as stanolone) 4000 N see stanolone Dronabinol in sesame oil in soft gelatin capsule 7369 N Marinol, synthetic THC in sesame oil/soft gelatin Drostanolone 4000 N Drolban, Masterid, Permastril Ethylestrenol 4000 N Maxibolin, Orabolin, Durabolin-O, Duraboral Ethylmorphine combination product 15 mg/du 9808     Fluoxymesterone 4000 N Anadroid-F, Halotestin, Ora-Testryl Formebolone (incorrect spelling in law) 4000 N Esiclene, Hubernol Hydrocodone & isoquinoline alkaloid 15 mg/du 9805   Dihydrocodeinone+papaverine or noscapine Hydrocodone combination product 15 mg/du 9806   Tussionex, Tussend, Lortab, Vicodin, Hycodan, Anexsia ++ Ketamine 7285 N Ketaset, Ketalar, Special K, K Lysergic acid 7300 N LSD precursor Lysergic acid amide 7310 N LSD precursor Mesterolone 4000 N Proviron Methandienone (see Methandrostenolone) 4000 N   Methandranone 4000 N ?incorrect spelling of methandienone? Methandriol 4000 N Sinesex, Stenediol, Troformone Methandrostenolone 4000 wid
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    Wednesday, April 01, 2009 at 08:19 AM
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    This document is a general reference and not a comprehensive list. This list describes the basic or parent chemical and does not describe the salts, isomers and salts of isomers, esters, ethers and derivatives which may also be controlled substances. For a comprehensive list, click here.


    Schedule I SubstanceDEA NumberNon NarcoticOther Names 1-(1-Phenylcyclohexyl)pyrrolidine 7458 N PCPy, PHP, rolicyclidine 1-(2-Phenylethyl)-4-phenyl-4-
    acetoxypiperidine 9663   PEPAP, synthetic heroin 1-[1-(2-
    Thienyl)cyclohexyl]piperidine 7470 N TCP, tenocyclidine 1-[1-(2-
    Thienyl)cyclohexyl]pyrrolidine 7473 N TCPy 1-Methyl-4-phenyl-4-
    propionoxypiperidine 9661   MPPP, synthetic heroin 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-
    ethylamphetamine 7399 N DOET 2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine 7396 N DMA, 2,5-DMA 3,4,5-Trimethoxyamphetamine 7390 N TMA 3,4-Methylenedioxyamphetamine 7400 N MDA, Love Drug 3,4-
    Methylenedioxymethamphetamine 7405 N MDMA, Ecstasy, XTC 3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-
    ethylamphetamine 7404 N N-ethyl MDA, MDE, MDEA 3-Methylfentanyl 9813   China White, fentanyl 3-Methylthiofentanyl 9833   Chine White, fentanyl 4-Bromo-2,5-
    dimethoxyamphetamine 7391 N DOB, 4-bromo-DMA 4-Bromo-2,5-
    dimethoxyphenethylamine 7392 N Nexus, 2-CB, has been sold as Ecstasy, i.e. MDMA 4-Methoxyamphetamine 7411 N PMA 4-Methyl-2,5-
    dimethoxyamphetamine 7395 N DOM, STP 4-Methylaminorex (cis isomer) 1590 N U4Euh, McN-422 5-Methoxy-3,4-
    methylenedioxyamphetamine 7401 N MMDA Acetorphine 9319     Acetyl-alpha-methylfentanyl 9815     Acetyldihydrocodeine 9051   Acetylcodone Acetylmethadol 9601   Methadyl acetate Allylprodine 9602     Alphacetylmethadol except levo-alphacetylmethadol 9603     Alpha-Ethyltryptamine 7249 N ET, Trip Alphameprodine 9604     Alphamethadol 9605     Alpha-Methylfentanyl 9814   China White, fentanyl Alpha-Methylthiofentanyl 9832   China White, fentanyl Aminorex 1585 N has been sold as methamphetamine Benzethidine 9606     Benzylmorphine 9052     Betacetylmethadol 9607     Beta-Hydroxy-3-methylfentanyl 9831   China White, fentanyl Beta-Hydroxyfentanyl 9830   China White, fentanyl Betameprodine 9608     Betamethadol 9609     Betaprodine 9611     Bufotenine 7433 N Mappine, N,N-dimethylserotonin Cathinone 1235 N Constituent of "Khat" plant Clonitazene 9612     Codeine methylbromide 9070     Codeine-N-oxide 9053     Cyprenorphine 9054     Desomorphine 9055     Dextromoramide 9613   Palfium, Jetrium, Narcolo Diampromide 9615     Diethylthiambutene 9616     Diethyltryptamine 7434 N DET Difenoxin 9168   Lyspafen Dihydromorphine 9145     Dimenoxadol 9617     Dimepheptanol 9618     Dimethylthiambutene 9619     Dimethyltryptamine 7435 N DMT Dioxaphetyl butyrate 9621     Dipipanone 9622   Dipipan, phenylpiperone HCl, Diconal, Wellconal Drotebanol 9335   Metebanyl, oxymethebanol Ethylmethylthiambutene 9623     Etonitazene 9624     Etorphine (except HCl) 9056     Etoxeridine 9625     Fenethylline 1503 N Captagon,amfetyline,ethyltheophylline amphetamine Furethidine 9626     Gama Hydroxybutyric Acid (GHB) 2010 N GHB, gama hydroxybutyrate, sodium oxybate Heroin 9200   Diacetylmorphine, diamorphine Hydromorphinol 9301     Hydroxypethidine 9627     Ibogaine 7260 N Constituent of "Tabernanthe iboga" plant Ketobemidone 9628   Cliradon Levomoramide 9629     Levophenacylmorphan 9631     Lysergic acid diethylamide 7315 N LSD, lysergide Marijuana 7360 N Cannabis, marijuana Mecloqualone 2572 N Nubarene Mescaline 7381 N Constituent of "Peyote" cacti Methaqualone 2565 N Quaalude, Parest, Somnafac, Opitimil, Mandrax Methcathinone 1237 N N-Methylcathinone, "cat" Methyldesorphine 9302     Methyldihydromorphine 9304     Morpheridine 9632     Morphine methylbromide 9305     Morphine methylsulfonate 9306     Morphine-N-oxide 9307     Myrophine 9308     N,N-Dimethylamphetamine 1480 N   N-Ethyl-1-phenylcyclohexylamine 7455 N PCE N-Ethyl-3-piperidyl benzilate 7482 N JB 323 N-Ethylamphetamine 1475 N NEA N-Hydroxy-3,4-
    methylenedioxyamphetamine 7402 N N-hydroxy MDA Nicocodeine 9309     Nicomorphine 9312   Vilan N-Methyl-3-piperidyl benzilate 7484 N JB 336 Noracymethadol 9633     Norlevorphanol 9634     Normethadone 9635   Phenyldimazone Normorphine 9313     Norpipanone 9636     Para-Fluorofentanyl 9812   China White, fentanyl Parahexyl 7374 N Synhexyl, Peyote 7415 N Cactus which contains mescaline Phenadoxone 9637     Phenampromide 9638     Phenomorphan 9647     Phenoperidine 9641   Operidine, Lealgin Pholcodine 9314   Copholco, Adaphol, Codisol, Lantuss, Pholcolin Piritramide 9642   Piridolan Proheptazine 9643     Properidine 9644     Propiram 9649   Algeril Psilocybin 7437 N Constituent of "Magic mushrooms" Psilocyn 7438 N Psilocin, constituent of "Magic mushrooms" Racemoramide 9645     Tetrahydrocannabinols 7370 N THC, Delta-8 THC, Delta-9 THC and others Thebacon 9315   Acetylhydrocodone, Acedicon, Thebacetyl Thiofentanyl 9835   Chine white, fentanyl Tilidine 9750   Tilidate, Valoron, Kitadol, Lak, Tilsa Trimeperidine 9646   Promedolum Schedule II 1-Phenylcyclohexylamine 7460 N Precusor of PCP 1-Piperidinocyclohexanecarbonitrile 8603 N PCC, precusor of PCP Alfentanil 9737   Alfenta Alphaprodine 9010   Nisentil Amobarbital 2125 N Amytal, Tuinal Amphetamine 1100 N Dexedrine, Biphetamine Anileridine 9020   Leritine Benzoylecgonine 9180   Cocaine metabolite Bezitramide 9800   Burgodin Carfentanil 9743   Wildnil Coca Leaves 9040     Cocaine 9041   Methyl benzoylecgonine, Crack Codeine 9050   Morphine methyl ester, methyl morphine Dextropropoxyphene, bulk (non-dosage forms) 9273   Propoxyphene Dihydrocodeine 9120   Didrate, Parzone Diphenoxylate 9170     Diprenorphine 9058   M50-50 Ecgonine 9180   Cocaine precursor, in Coca leaves Ethylmorphine 9190   Dionin Etorphine HCl 9059   M 99 Fentanyl 9801   Innovar, Sublimaze, Duragesic Glutethimide 2550 N Doriden, Dorimide Hydrocodone 9193   dihydrocodeinone Hydromorphone 9150   Dilaudid, dihydromorphinone Isomethadone 9226   Isoamidone Levo-alphacetylmethadol 9648   LAAM, long acting methadone, levomethadyl acetate Levomethorphan 9210     Levorphanol 9220   Levo-Dromoran Meperidine 9230   Demerol, Mepergan, pethidine Meperidine intermediate-A 9232   Meperidine precursor Meperidine intermediate-B 9233   Meperidine precursor Meperidine intermediate-C 9234   Meperidine precursor Metazocine 9240     Methadone 9250   Dolophine, Methadose, Amidone Methadone intermediate 9254   Methadone precursor Methamphetamine 1105 N Desoxyn, D-desoxyephedrine, ICE, Crank, Speed Methylphenidate 1724 N Ritalin Metopon 9260     Moramide-intermediate 9802     Morphine 9300   MS Contin, Roxanol, Duramorph, RMS, MSIR Nabilone 7379 N Cesamet Opium extracts 9610     Opium fluid extract 9620     Opium poppy 9650   Papaver somniferum Opium tincture 9630   Laudanum Opium, granulated 9640   Granulated opium Opium, powdered 9639   Powdered Opium Opium, raw 9600   Raw opium, gum opium Oxycodone 9143   OxyContin, Percocet, Tylox, Roxicodone, Roxicet, Oxymorphone 9652   Numorphan Pentobarbital 2270 N Nembutal Phenazocine 9715   Narphen, Prinadol Phencyclidine 7471 N PCP, Sernylan Phenmetrazine 1631 N Preludin Phenylacetone 8501 N P2P, phenyl-2-propanone, benzyl methyl ketone Piminodine 9730     Poppy Straw 9650   Opium poppy capsules, poppy heads Poppy Straw Concentrate 9670   Concentrate of Poppy Straw, CPS Racemethorphan 9732     Racemorphan 9733   Dromoran Remifentanil 9739   Ultiva Secobarbital 2315 N Seconal, Tuinal Sufentanil 9740   Sufenta Thebaine 9333   Precursor of many narcotics Schedule III Amobarbital & noncontrolled active ingred. 2126 N Amobarbital/ephedrine capsules Amobarbital suppository dosage form 2126 N   Anabolic steroids 4000 N "Body Building" drugs Aprobarbital 2100 N Alurate Barbituric acid derivative 2100 N Barbiturates not specifically listed Benzphetamine 1228 N Didrex, Inapetyl Boldenone 4000 N Equipoise, Parenabol, Vebonol, dehydrotestosterone Buprenorphine 9064   Buprenex, Temgesic Butabarbital 2100 N Butisol, Butibel Butalbital 2100 N Fiorinal, Butalbital with aspirin Chlorhexadol 2510 N Mechloral, Mecoral, Medodorm, Chloralodol Chlorotestosterone (same as clostebol) 4000 N if 4-chlorotestosterone then clostebol Chlorphentermine 1645 N Pre-Sate, Lucofen, Apsedon, Desopimon Clortermine 1647 N Voranil Clostebol 4000 N Alfa-Trofodermin, Clostene, 4-chlorotestosterone Codeine & isoquinoline alkaloid 90 mg/du 9803   Codeine with papaverine or noscapine Codeine combination product 90 mg/du 9804   Empirin, Fiorinal, Tylenol, ASA or APAP w/codeine Dehydrochlormethyltestosterone 4000 N Oral-Turinabol Dihydrocodeine combination product 90 mg/du 9807   Synalgos-DC, Compal Dihydrotestosterone (same as stanolone) 4000 N see stanolone Dronabinol in sesame oil in soft gelatin capsule 7369 N Marinol, synthetic THC in sesame oil/soft gelatin Drostanolone 4000 N Drolban, Masterid, Permastril Ethylestrenol 4000 N Maxibolin, Orabolin, Durabolin-O, Duraboral Ethylmorphine combination product 15 mg/du 9808     Fluoxymesterone 4000 N Anadroid-F, Halotestin, Ora-Testryl Formebolone (incorrect spelling in law) 4000 N Esiclene, Hubernol Hydrocodone & isoquinoline alkaloid 15 mg/du 9805   Dihydrocodeinone+papaverine or noscapine Hydrocodone combination product 15 mg/du 9806   Tussionex, Tussend, Lortab, Vicodin, Hycodan, Anexsia ++ Ketamine 7285 N Ketaset, Ketalar, Special K, K Lysergic acid 7300 N LSD precursor Lysergic acid amide 7310 N LSD precursor Mesterolone 4000 N Proviron Methandienone (see Methandrostenolone) 4000 N   Methandranone 4000 N ?incorrect spelling of methandienone? Methandriol 4000 N Sinesex, Stenediol, Troformone Methandrostenolone 4000 wid
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    re: re: re: DEA
    Dean
    Wednesday, April 01, 2009 at 08:25 AM

    I apologize for the list printing out the way it did. It was not like that until I clicked submit. But as I stated there are two different types of Hydocodone and one is Schedule II and the other Schedule III.

     

    Just click on the Click Here icon and you can bring then up so they are easier to read.

     

    Hope this helps.

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    re: re: re: re: DEA
    Redhen1919
    Wednesday, April 01, 2009 at 04:45 PM

    My eyes, my eyes, no just kidding, I can still see. First, I want to say thank you so much for helping me get through what has been a extremely upsetting experience. I don't feel so alone anymore and there are people that understand and care.

     

    I actually thought that these pharmacists cared. I was wrong. I was forced to go to the same pharmacy today. The next nearest pharmacy is many blocks away and across a very busy intersection. The reason why this happen was not about filling my prescription early. It is about me taking opiod medication period. When I went to pickup my medication both pharmacist's said, "they need make the rule so THEY have to pick up their medication only one-day before the old one expires".

     

    Someone said go to another pharmacy. If that were possible I would, but it is extremely difficult because of my mobility issues and failure of the bus company to maintain their wheelchair ramps. Maybe this is petty, but I have real aversion to being told that I cannot shop someplace, drink at the same fountain or use the same restroom like "normal" people.

     

    I am tired of being told where to go, what to do and when to do it simply because I take pain medication. My pain doctor's PA told me to get out of my wheelchair and go exercise. BTW, she is not the first one to tell me this. My wheelchair was prescribed by an orthopedic surgeon. Legacy Hospital foundation donated my chair. I was one of eight to get one of these chairs.

     

    My psychologist was so angry that he called Walgreen's for me and talked with the store manager. They didn't blow him off. Then he put me on the phone and the manager apologized over and over. I just want them to be held accountable for what they did.

     

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    re: DEA
    tiredofthesysystem
    Saturday, September 12, 2009 at 07:05 PM

    the dea has lost the war on drugs out of 24000 people on opiods 7 were found to be abusing there medication. it is time chronic pain suffers stand up and fight these war hungry liars"DEA" I have just been treated like a crimal for losing a persriction. I have been on the same medication for two years and never lost a perscrition.I am now forced into drug test.  they are making medicare pay for them and I was forced into signing a chronic pain contract and I can only get one weeks  worth of medication at a time. All because there is a new medical director. I am on a limited income and paying for 1 week at a time is a hardship on me.the clinic is saying it is not personal.BS there is not a high blood presure contract or a aids contract.or a cancer contract. others dont have to piss in a cup to get cancer meds. this is all because the DEA. they love to pick on sick people they are power hungry liars who has lost the war on drugs so they run around sticking there nose in doctors files looking for easy target.It is time to stand togther and not allow the dea to pick on doctors or there sick customers. 9 out of 10 people dont even know what it is like to have your life taken away from you because of cripeling mind numbing testical crusing pain 24 7. so until you can play with your kids or hold you new born dont judge

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    re: re: DEA
    Redhen1919
    Saturday, September 19, 2009 at 05:11 PM

    i agree wholeheartedly, if you get medicare part d prescriptions i would contact the quality management department for medicare in your state and ask them to mediate the dispute between you and your doctor. BTW, i have a new doctor and so far things are okay.

     

    My pharmacist is still harassing me. now they are mad because i switched to a brand name pain med and i have a low co pay. the purpose was to take less medication and use a more effective medication. i am disabled and have huge medical, transportation and health home care expenses and qualified for extra help from medicare and i switched to a part d plan that pays for brand name medication. the pharamacist is trying dig up dirt. thankfully i document everything i do. i am filing a disability discrimination complaint against walgreens.

     

    patients are afraid of losing their medication so they cower in fear. i have done nothing wrong and i refuse live the last years of my life as a doormat. i knew when they started homeland security it meant our rights would be taken.

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  2. Untitled Comment
    Shirley
    Wednesday, April 01, 2009 at 04:56 PM

    Yes, I've had problems with my pharmacists filling my prescriptions. I usually take my prescription directly from the doctor to the pharmacy. ( I live out of town, so it's more convenient that way)  Sometimes, the pharmacy says it is too soon. If it's too soon, then why did the doctor write it?? 

     

    But I've also had the problem with my doctors. When I ask the doctor about changing my medications, because I don't feel like they are working like they used to, he talks about taking me off all of my medicines. I can't imagine what I would be able to do if they were to take me off of everything.  I can barely walk through the grocery store now.  Someone has to go with me to push the cart, then I can use my walker, and I can sit down and take a break when I need to. And then when everything is finished, they get to unload the car and put up the food for me.  I can't do it anymore.  And I'm only 48 years old!!  I can't imagine how much worse things could get.

     

    But I would, seriously, change your pharmacy. I've had to do that in the past.

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    re: threats and fallacies of distraction
    Redhen1919
    Thursday, April 02, 2009 at 09:20 PM

    Your doctor threatened you. BTW, it is against the law to undertreat someone's pain. Are you aware that at some point your body becomes tolerant to the medication and you need more to achieve the same level of pain control. This is not "addiction" this is "tolerance".There was a recent lawsuit California that sued a physician for "Elder Abuse" because he failed to provide pain treatment.

     

    I know it is difficult and expensive to find another doctor. Now that I realize my pain doctor cares more about his license than me I am going to Beth Israel Pallative Care Center in New York.They care!

     

    BTW, it is time for chronic pain patients to start a civil rights movement. We need to "march on Washington". We need to find legal counsel to represent us so that we can be treated with justice and require that focus be put on those who are breaking the law.

     

    Our struggle is about POWER.  They want us to believe we have none, but we do. If I am forced to go to another pharmacy, which is a major inconvenient and I would have to pay someone to pickup my prescriptions.  They have the power to inflict emotional abuse on me and others. This untruthful and negative information will be passed on to my next pharmacy. Just like negative information is written in my medical records and passed on to the next doctor. I was denied appropriate medical treatment and because of the lack of treatment I am terminally ill.

     

    We must hold others accountable for their behavior. We must take back our power. It is difficult because our illnesses create barriers to just doing basic life activities, but we must take back control of our lives.

     

    When do we know it is time to the draw the line? We draw the line when conditions become so unbearable that to do nothing will harm our body and soul.

     

    Take Care

    Redhen

     

     

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  3. medications and travel
    Lisa
    Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 06:27 AM

    Ruth,

    i did not read any of the comments so i give you a suggestion that someone else already gave you, if i repeat any sorry!

    I would try to save and keep a few pills each month a year before your trip. you can also try to use a pharmacy like walgreens whose stores are every where. This way you can bring your script with you or have you dr. mail with receipt to your vacation address. Also if you are visiting family have them find you a pain management dr. in there local town and have them mail you the new patient paperwork ahead of time and have an appt made in advance for you to get you meds. And bring a copy of of your medical records with you and a copy of your printed scripts that come with your script each month and bring these to you vacation local dr. This way he can read first hand your history.

    Also ask you dr. if you can increase you meds by one pill a day, which you can also put away.

    Last but not least if on vacation and you need break-through pain meds or your regular script, if you have too go to the er for this and they will recommen a local follow-up dr. for you to see.

    Always bring your medical records with on vacation and keep a set at home with you, keeping a copy of your blood work also helps because it will show your vacation dr. that you have no signs of drug abuse in your system.

    good luck,

    miss lisa

    have a pain free day

     

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    re: medications and travel
    Redhen1919
    Thursday, April 30, 2009 at 01:39 AM

    Thanks Lisa. Unfortunately, Walgreens is the pharmacy that is causing all the problems.

    My problem is that I did not want to go to a pharmacy in Kansas and attempt to fill my medication. Kansas has a bad reputation abusing chronic pain doctors and patients.

     

    The walgreens pharmacist did not want to fill my pain prescriptions. It had nothing to do with me filling my prescription early. He ASS-umed that I was a drug addict. There was no legal reason whatsoever for his refusal.

     

    I have changed pharmacies. It takes me two hours round-trip to get to the new pharmacy. I will be arranging to have my medication mailed. I have lodged a formal complaint with the pharmacy board.

     

    All things happen for a reason. It was really difficult to be in pain and have someone abuse me because of my pain meds. I realized that not only was I in severe pain, the pain had prevented me from accomplishing any of my goals during the past year. I also realized that I was trying to prove to everyone that I am not an addict, but it did not matter because they don't care about the truth.

     

    I was terribly upset and decided if I was going be harassed then I might as well be harassed and have my pain under control.

     

    My doctor started me on a stronger pain medication and I am doing much better. I have enough leftover that I can go on a trip without the worry. I cook my own dinner and wash my dishes. Before I started these new meds I could not stand for more than a minute without almost passing out because of the pain.

     

    I know that pharmacist would be really angry if he knew that he helped me get stronger pain medication. Now they can say whatever they want, I can take it,  because my pain is finally under control.I am not suffering anymore.

     

    "Pain is inevitable, Suffering is optional"

     

    Ruth

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    re: medications and travel
    BLACK DUKE
    Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 03:37 PM

    ALL MY GOD!!! THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO HELP,BUT MY GOD LADY,DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HARD THAT WOULD BE TO DO FOR A PERSON WHO IS TERRIBLY SICK AND IN PAIN.MY GOD PEOPLE,JUST FILL THE DAMN PRESCRIPTION ALREADY! DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER THEN ALL THE BULLSHIT YOU JUST SAID,MY GOD,THE PERON IS GOING ON A VACATION TO GET AWAY FROM THE EVERYDAY LIFE OF LYING IN BED AND SUFFERING,CANT YOU HEARTLESS NOT IN PAIN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS! ONE DAY YOU ARE GOING TO BE IN PAIN AND WISH THE SAME THINGS AS THIS PERSON.STOP TREATING PEOPLE LIKE DRUG ADDICTS!THESE POOR PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING AND JUST WANT FREAKIN RELIEF!HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOUR BACK HURT 24 HOURS A DAY,SO BAD YOU CANT WALK WITH OUT A CAN AND SOMEONE TOLD YOU ITS TO EARLY,EARLY MY ASS!!!JUST FILL THE DAMN THING ALREADY AND STOP WITH THIS DRUG ADDICTION BULLSHIT! IS IN OUR OWN DECISION WHAT WE PUT IN OUR BODIES.ITS NOT YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE'S BUSINESS WHAT I TAKE ,OR HOW MUCH I TAKE.FOR CHRIST SAKE,IF I WANT TO TAKE A ENOUGH TO KILL MY SELF,THAT IS MY DAMN CHOICE! NOT THE DEA'S OR ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT. THIS SHOULD BE VIOLATING OUR AMENDMENT RIGHTS OF FREEDOM,CAUSE IF I WAS TRULY FREE,I WOULDN'T BE KISSING ANY DR'S ASS,OR A STUPID PHARMACIST WHO DOESN'T KNOW ME,OR WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO HIM OR HER.YOU PEOPLE ARE RIGHT,WE NEED TO HIRE LEGAL REPS AND GET TOGETHER AND PUT A STOP TO THIS BULLSHIT! WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOM!WE ARE HUMAN JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE,JUST BECAUSE WE SUFFER FROM ILLNESS OR FROM A ACCIDENT,NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON,WE SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME AS IF WE WEREN'T DISABLED.PLEASE,I AM ASKING EVERYONE IN THIS CONDITION TO GET TOGETHER AND LETS ORGANIZE SOMETHING TO PUT A STOP TO THIS.ARE YOU AWARE THAT SOME DR'S SOME GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS,POLICE,FIREMAN,ETC..ARE HYPOCRITES,SOME OF THEM TAKE MEDICINE JUST LIKE YOU,I BET THEY DON'T PUT UP WITH THAT MUCH BULLSHIT JUST TO TAKE A VACATION,LOL,OMG,WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

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    re: re: medications and travel
    Redhen1919
    Wednesday, August 19, 2009 at 03:04 PM

    You do what you have to do. When a person is suffering they look for help any where they can find it. Here I found support and suggestions that I can use or refuse. Just knowing someone took the time to write has given me the willpower to keep fighting.

    When I first wrote about the pharmacist I was overwhelmed and did not know what to do and someone responded.

     

    I try to reciprocate because I know that after everything I have been through I have information that can help other people. I want them to know that no matter how bad it gets there is always an alternative. One day I may give up, but I am up and going again the next. I believe that I have POWER and no matter what the consequences I will not allow anyone to make me a doormat because I am different. If we allow the pharmacists, doctors, nurses, and DEA to take our Power we will nothing left to fight with and we will want to die.  We are all POWERFUL people, worthy of being treated with respect. We must recognize our WORTH and POWER. We must use them as tools to go on no matter how hard the struggle.

     

    Every day people in pain travel to another State because doctors in their States refuse to provide treatment. Not only is it difficult financially, it is difficult physically. I moved to Ohio because they provided better treatment. I did not know anyone in Ohio. I left my children and grandchildren behind. In 2007, I missed the holidays with my children for the first time in 37 years.

     

    I caught the bus home in 2008 and almost died in the process. I developed heart failure and ended up in an ER in Utah. I have traveled to New York for a second opinion, but I could not travel there every three months and was forced to find an MD back home. Unfortunately, the harassment continued and I was forced to move to Ohio.

    I traveled without my wheelchair to NY in July 2005 I was taking a mininal dose of vicodin. In 2006, I traveled to Ohio the only pain medications I received were non-narcotic. I was given them in spite of the fact that two pain specialist said I needed stronger medication.

    I have adrenal insuffiicency and have been near death due to an adrenal crisis. I have arthritis throughout my body. It has calcified the tendons and ligaments in my spine, hips, pelvis, arms and legs. I have bone spurs on my joints where the tendons attach to the bone. I only have 25% mobility in my spine. There is pressure on my spinal cord.

    In 2008, I found out that I have polyneuropathy, caused by an autoimmune disorder, that is attacking the organs in my body. My doctor now says I might have RSD.This year they told me I have congenital hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and said no excessive exercise. I am not surprised that my former doctors were going to let me die. I was denied these diagnoses because I take narcotic pain medication.

    I have also learned that patients are afraid of losing their pain medication. In a recent fight with a major hospital, regarding signing a pain contract, I was told not to pursue it because I would lose my chronic pain medication. Just speaking up about the abuses can lead to a doctor removing a patient from care.

    If we would all come together and lobby for better treatment it might work, but many are too afraid and too ill to try. I can not fault them or blame them. I was left crawling and screaming around on the floor because my former doctor stopped my pain medication. Why, because I had traveled to Ohio for a second opinion and he, "did not want to piggyback medical care".

     

    My advice to anyone is to read and educate yourself about chronic pain and what to expect in the present and the future. Everyone is suffering because of illegal drug use including our doctors.

     

    "Pain is Inevitable, Suffering is Optional"

     

    Redhen

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  4. Help for Prescription Problems
    CrazyRed
    Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 03:56 PM

    Hey,

    I am sorry to hear what the pharmacy is doing to you. I have been so lucky with my pharmacy, they are so great. I have been on pain medicine for a long time due to chronic illness. In addition I have bi-polar disorder since I was 10. Alot of doctors and people in general see that I take medicine for bi-polar and automatically assume anything else in life is something that I have "made up" in my head. It has even gotten to the point where I call in my own mediciations to the pharmacy (no narcotics, and highly illegal, I do not reccomend), and on the rare one time that I made a mistake the pharmasist asked me when I got there what I take and how to take so he could fix it for me! He even called the doctor and he said they don't know their ass (excuse the language) from their head since they did not know what he was talking about! I nearly had a heart attack!

    Anyway there are alternatives now adays. You can try an online pharmacy. Even if you so not have a reaccuring prescription. There are many sites online and they can have them to you asap. Sometimes faster than the pharmacy (if they don't have something in stock). You tell them the information, they verify and ship. This is also especially good for repeating prescriptions as they will call the doc to be sure that you get more and send them out automatically.

    There are also sites that will give you an "online" consultation. Then they give you an "online" prescription, and of course fill it and send it out to you. I don't think they eal with insurance, although some might, so it could be expensive.

    Finally there are pharmacies in mexico, canada, and europe where they are not swayed by the American drug companies, and even paying cash it is equal to or less than some co-pays here in America. Although the laws in America allowing foreign pharmacies is constantly changing, so be sure to check.

    Oh and a side note * We are all told that generic medication is (according to the FDA) "exactly the same" as the brand name. However when I was switched to generic medicine for my bi-polar there was a clear dffrence and after much research I found ou that that is not true! The FDA requires no testing on generics and among other things allows generics to be 20%less - 25% more powerful than brand! There is more, but I wont go into it. The top drugs that patients report diffrences from generic and brand? PAIN MEDICATIONS, heart burn, anti-depressants, and blood pressure medicines!

    But off course most insurance companies will not pay for brand, and some doctors dismiss you. The FDA stated in a study that even though one antidepressant was "absorbed in diffrent amounts, and at diffrent times", it did not think that was "an issue"! can you believe that?

    Anyway I hope something in this rambling helps!

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    re: Help for Prescription Problems
    Redhen1919
    Saturday, May 23, 2009 at 10:53 PM

    Hi,

    Thanks so much for the information. I am sorry it has taken so long to reply. I just spent eight days in the hospital. That was an experience I do not want to repeat.

     

    We need our energy to maintain our health not siphoned away by negative people.

    Since I have been ill that too many people believe they have the right to dictate the when, why, how and what in my life. My wants, needs and opinions do not count. It does not matter that I am an intelligent and successful person. What matters, to them is their opinion of me. It used to be so upsetting. I learned that defining myself and my behavior because of others' opinions of me meant that I had to be 100+ different people. Going down that road will make anyone crazy.

     

    I have gained a sense of peace, because I am now live being the person I worked so hard to become. It has made a major difference. When I was in the hospital, although I encountered some that were judgemental, some withheld my pain medication,  my doctors and most of the nurses told me that I am a nice, kind and patient person and to never let anyone change who I am.

     

    There will always be people that feel the need to act on their prejudices and misjudgements. Now, I listen to what they have to say, but I do not allow their negativity to take root in my spirit. 

     

    I am still a little bit nervous about ordering online, but I have been doing some research. I am making arrangements to have my medication delivered. I have changed to a new pharamacy and it is difficult to get there. It takes a total of two hours on the bus. I had to wait almost a week to get my heart medication because I was too sick to catch the bus. The old pharmacy it right across the street.

     

    Many people told me about the difference between generic medication and brand name. A pharmacist once told me that 15% of the time generics do not work. The new pharmacy's generic medication does not work. It is a different drug company and the medication is less effective. I noticed the difference in the medication they gave me in the hospital and the one I take now.

     

    My doctor agreed and switched wrote my prescription for brand name only.

    I hopefully, I won't need as much.

     

    Again, thank you for the information. Take care

     

    Redhen

     

     

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  5. Untitled Comment
    Bill CPhT
    Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 04:18 PM

    I read your post, and most of the replies until they started to go off tangent.  I work in a pharmacy, not as a Pharmacist, but as a CPhT (meaning that I am a nationally certified Pharmacy Technician.) Anyway, I see people every day that are in a situation such as yours, you go in to fill a prescription, and instead of being told the copay, and that it will be ready in 15 minutes, you hear that something is wrong with the prescription.

     

    Honestly, in my experience anyway, only 5 maybe 10% of the time is it "the pharmacy's fault," honestly.  Some times it is the doctors fault (as DEAN stated was the problem in your situation) and I would say 85% to 95% of the time it is the Insurance Company that is to blame. (especially if they are not covering the medication)

     

    However, your problem is not with the doctor, the pharmacy OR the insurance company, but is with the federal (and likely the state) government.  The DEA as Dean mentioned to be precise.  Hydrocodone-APAP 5-500 (vicodin 5-500) is a controlled substance, meaning that the DEA regulates it due to its addiction and abuse potential.  It is actually against the law for the pharmacy to fill the prescription early (by more than a few days to a week.)  The DEA is the one that restricts them from doing so, as it is the DEA that regulates controlled substances, as well as gives doctors and pharmacies permission to dispense controlled substances.

     

    The time when you are due to fill a prescription is based on the amount of medication prescribed, and the MDD (Maximum Daily Dose) which is the maximum number of tablets you are prescribed to take in a single day.  I.E. if a doctor write the script for hydrocodone-apap 5-500, and 1 tablet 4 times daily as needed with #120 tablets, that script is a 30 day supply (120 tablets divided by 4 a day is 30 days, simple math.)  Now, even if you take 5 or 6 tablets a day because the pain comes back, you can still only fill it every 30 days as you are only PRESCRIBED to take 4 tablets daily.

     

    Hydrocodone-APAP 5-500, which has acetaminophen (tylenol, the APAP) in it, is a bit tricky.  Because it has 500mg Tylenol you can only take a MAX 8 tablets daily (even if the directions are 2 tablets ever 4 hours as needed, which would be 12 tablets daily) because taking any amount of Tylenol over 4000mg (4 grams) in 1 day, can cause severe liver damage and even death.  So even if the doctor rights 2 tablets every 4 hours as needed with #120 tablets, which would be a 10 day supply, the pharmacist would not be able to fill it more often than every 15 days, because they could be held responsible if you suffer liver damage.

     

    That is why you have such a hard time with the prescriptions, it is not the pharmacy or pharmacist trying to give you a hard time (unless they have reasons to believe you are either selling the drugs or abusing them, not to say that you are) but they have your safety, and their livelihood on the line if they recklessly fill these prescriptions.

     

    If you are having trouble getting relief with the prescribed medications, and the doctor is unwilling to increase the strength or potency of your medication, I would discuss alternative treatments with the doctor, such as non-controlled topical medication that can be used in conjunction with your current medications, so you don't have to rely so heavily on the controls to relieve your pain, or you can discuss physical therapy in addition to the drugs you are currently on.

     

    If this does not work, or the doctor is unwilling to try these approaches, I would suggest seeing a Pain Management Doctor. PM Doctors are specialized in treating pain, and are more familiar with what works best for specific injuries, and individual patients.  The one suggestion I would make with a PM Doctor though, is that they make a living treating pain, if they cured every patient they had, they would be out of business, so make sure you tell them that you are looking to heal the pain, and eventually become pain free, and be careful that they are not just over medicating you to get you dependant.

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    Redhen1919
    Monday, November 02, 2009 at 04:21 AM

     

     

    my original post was also about verbal and emotional abuse by pharmacy staff based on the fact that I take opioid medication. The subject is not only about how our medication is dispensed, but also about the abuse we suffer at the hands of medical professionals just because we take pain medication. i believe you should have read all of the posts. the purpose is to have an open dialogue about pain and pain management for those with chronic pain. it is okay to include a variety of concerns.

     

    the first time i attempted to fill my prescription the pharmacist said it was too early and my insurance would not pay. i had to pay for it out-of-pocket. my previous prescription was filled on 6/16 and on 7/16 they said my insurance would not pay. as you can see by dates it was not too early and they lied. Because my grandson was dying and I had to catch a flight i was too distracted to realize that they were lying. The written records speak for themselves.

     

    The second time i was only four days early. there is no restriction on a schedule III medication unless the doctor states no refills or states the medication must last 30 days. There was no such thirty day limitation on my prescription. The DEA says a schedule III prescription can be written for five refills.  A schedule II medication can only be filled every 30 days, cannot be refilled, and a new prescription is required each month.

     

    If my insurance will only pay every 30 days then I have the option of paying for my schedule III prescription out of pocket. in fact, my insurance states i have the right to pay out of pocket and then file a claim to be reimbursed. my insurance also states that if i am going on vacation i can make arrangements to fill my prescription ahead of time. therefore the decisions are made by my doctor and insurance plan not the pharmacist.

     

    as all DEA guidelines were followed, the pharmacist was negligent when he required me to pay the first time. He was negligent and violated federal law when he altered my prescription the second time. no one other than the prescribing doctor can alter a prescription.

     

    He has harassed me by being rude, releasing confidential information, has made disparaging remarks in front of customers and othe store employees. He has refused to counsel me regarding new medications. In one instance he gave me erroneous information in a condescending and patronizing manner when i voiced my concern and my ob-gyn's concern about a particular drug. as a result my life was endangered because i am never supposed to take this particular drug. they told other employees that they did not want me waiting in the store while my prescriptions were filled and called me at home to tell me that i should order refills via telephone and then come in and pick them up. How would i do that with a schedule II prescription or new prescription. in august he made disparaging remarks in front of other employees because i changed to the brand name. this month he told me i had to wait three days because they do not stock the brand name of my other pain med. in fact, three walgreens stated they did not carry the brand name. BTW, this is a violation of state law, because it constructively forces a patient to take generic medication.

     

    i have educated myself about the use of opioid medication and chronic pain management. knowledge is power. i have a degree in professional and technical communications. therefore, i continue to be offended by the patroning attitudes of pharmacy staff when they assume I am not intelligent enough to understand the benefits and dangers of using opioids.

     

    Even medical staff have to admit there is nothing on the market that is as safe and effective for treating chronic pain. i guarantee that one day many of those who abuse us will face severe pain and need something stronger than an asprin. what choices will they make?

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