Today is going ok..nerves frayed..tired from not much sleep....sweated all night..
aches..etc.. happy to be moving forward w/out the ms contin.. I was told the time release will take longer to be gone from my body..wish I could sleep...I can tell my body wants to heal..with sleep..can feel the drug fog lifting.. Grateful..


Hello Soleil !
just wanna say i am with you in prayers and thoughts! I wanted to make sure you have a buddy or someone that checks on you through this transition safely. It seems like your doin this alone and that keeps me worried. keep us informed and get plenty of showers "no baths' . Make sure you get some B12 and keep alot of fluids.
safety first friend!
Hi Buddie, thanx ! for your concern.. day 4 .. I am in the house alone , but my mom is monitoring...with calls and emails... ( and also a neighbor who was on oxycontin years ago .)., Funny Story ...my bathroom plumbing went bad..yesterday.....NOT !! GOOD TIMING..!! The last time , 2 weeks ago.. when I attempted to discontinue the meds ,...when I was rounding day 3, the fridge ..went out... knowing that I would have To call building manager..etc..and have fridge brought in.. I went back on meds..so I could collect myself...and quite frankly ..I was in no shape to socialize on any level..
when they brought fridge I explained honestly..( And because of my my rough appearance ), that I was transitioning pain meds...as they know that I was in an accident..etc..The wife was very nice and then said that she new exactly where I was coming from..as she had been there.. They live upstairs..so hear I was again calling the third day into detox... the reason I say this is funny,,is that to me...It was plain to see that I was being tested ( higher power ) and perhaps the distraction was good..And as a result I have made a new friend who " been there !!"
Day 4 , seems to be focused on my nervous system..anxiety..all of my "fractured areas are burning.. last night I think I slept ..some..(nights have been disorienting..)
but,, with that being said, I am in relatively good spirits..and I attribute that to the message board..and the "Positive mood" supplement..YES..it has lots of B's and aminos , Gaba etc...st, johns wort.. calcium ,mag...Ive been learning alot from postings on "Opiate detox" board. looking forward to the recovery type diet..that reboots brain from opiate damage...whey protein etc.. .I sat in the sun a little..
went for a walk..legs shakey.. feeling like I might sleep tonight as i am exhausted.
Also thankyou for bat54.. You have been so kind ! & How are "you "??? doing??
Bless You, Soleil Skye
Faith and Determination! The rebuilding of ones Foundation is you Key to start anew!
I belive as you have mentioned that Divine Intervention is at hand! Those that pass you by and take special intrest in who and how you are doin are both for yours and their benifit. I know you daughter is the reward in the long run. To truly take back what is yours and the Fog finally disapates and you see clearly what you were missing out in life is Liberating. These things as Bat54 writes of as well' are just some of the things we sacraficed giving into the pain and drowning it totally out with medications that could be kept to an absolute minimum or None at all if one is able to function without them.
I unnderstand their is a point in ones life where these meds are necessary, but it is best to find out by zeroing out and come to an agreemnet with ourselves what specific pain we are goin to consider manageable and the health risk factors of long term usage.
Myself' it took 7 years in group therapy pain managment and to start off on just 20 mg of Oxycontin and build a tolerance level of where my Neurophsycatrist had me at 280mg Oxycontin daily and 50mg Duragisic Fentenyl Patches evry three days as well! I was fortunate to find my liver and kidneys were not at the point of total failure but able to recover after 28 days in the hospital and a detox center to help me recover narcottic Free. This freedom I must warn you is not without its scars; as Bat54 wrote you have the memory loss and I can still smell that medication in my head and the taste is engrained in my mind. i hesitate to even wanna take a Naprasyn , but I know it will ease some of the pain. the thing is we are never pain free but what is it to be Pain Free exactly; I mean I have know this age old friend PAIN for thirty years and went through surgical procedures which just influenced more pain and suffering? I found myself lookin toward how I can stop allowing this PAIN to control my life and how it dictates my day. It takes a bit of time and frustrations but it can be done' this part of self-healing you will find liberates your true spirit and once you do that your faith is ten-fold stronger than ever. I tried the re-education thing Foreign Language (Chinese) at the University, but after 2 1/2 years I could'nt focus nor trot around campus and I can admit the pain did consume me(see this is the frustration part) you might encounter some failures but that dosent mean one has to crawl back into that bottle again. I see your days have challanges as well and especially during these try'n times ( I aplaude you friend ) For this is like part of the masonry to start building that new FOUNDATION!
Presently I am a Jeweler for the last 13 years and these last 7yrs. narrcotic free; have been the most prsoperous and the works I create are of a person not controlled by pain but someone who mastered it and redirected it towards bringing others happiness as well! This might be part of that KEY I mentioned; I dunno waht others find is their KEY but mine was redirecting my pain and focusing my mind on something that brings me and others happiness. I am honest in the fact that sometimes the pain may win a day and I take a day off or just go home to rest but i never leave defeated because I know how to pace myself and never allow the pain to frustrate me! I am at peace with my pain and take on this challange every day, night and mornin!
I had lived with the defeat before and only punished myself which allowed me to fall into years of depression and I would say having a group therapy an or a Therapist helped me find the TOOLS to right my situation. I found many others goin through the same obstacles in this journey not one of just pain but all its luggage (finances,family,and so much more ..) the mental anguish can be exhausting! This is where you have to grip it(PAIN) by throat and tell yourself you master this situation and this is how were gonna start over!
The hazards ahead are always new and frightning but be assured you have conqured bigger Giants before and this road paved with your courage is not built alone but with your support of family and friends; Never try this journey alone and always be open and honest withyourself! I needed someone to hold my hand to walk me on this PATH and It is comforting to the SOUL to know you never were alone!
It has been 3 years since I freed my mind from the clutches of the mental anguish and all the pescription bottles that I belived gave me comfort. It was the absolute opposite I realized 3 years ago and everyday I try to earn abck those 7 years I lost and can't say enough of how enlightend I have become it is some kind of Serenity feeln? My customers and this is at my Art Gallery tell me over the many years they see that gliimmer in your eye of happiness and alwyas wondereed about those other years I was doped up and just ( did not look well"") like a shell of a person! Its a rebirth in a sense an d I am sorry I don't have the hidden secret to finding this final solution but I encourage those to find these support groups and find what free's ones mind to a place that gives you temporary peace and if this helps "Master it". I have traveled afar and lived in malaysia and studied other Philosophies and see many in life find harmony is a state of being! If one can find this and hold onto it and know you were alwys in control and not the medicine, one might be able to balance these to find serentity and Quality of Life not just Comfort in Life!
umm.. I'm Baptist and totally open the idea we only use a fraction of our mind and spiritual being to self heal!
Well' Soleil I wanna tell you to walk this Path with care and never feel alone and reach out if need be!!!! Don't be afraid to stumble along this journey and this is why a support buddy is so vital to this ReBirth!!!!!!!
God Bless
MB
Your freaking me out,,, l o l, Just how great you are ..and how blessed I am..i so..enjoy your words..and..I am thrilled to know you are an artist..especially siver..which is my favorite...I am..as far as "labels " go... an artsy type myself. and love interesting jewelry especially...(uh...looks like i am getting better huh ???)
weird thung , the past two nights..even thogh my skin was crawling , and I couldnt shake anxious feeling..I was happy..like laugh out loud...happy...(well..i also cried watching oprah...!) but..here i am having emotions... other than frustration..anger , & resentment..
The past months my appetite had really diminished...I am a former chef.., and i guess ..a "Foodie"..I worked in alot of great restaurants in sanfrancisco..and sonoma county, and even a winery.. befor going into body work.. my point is.. That I am now sure that I was mal nourished..thru the pill ordeal..I had no desire to eat. .I did ..usually... late ..I am much heavier since the accident.. but now that I have started feeding my brain with those supplements..It seems like a miracle...how can I be so happy, while suffering physically..???
last night went better ,,not as much sweating,,and more sleep , still anxious.., body still cleaning out...ie: #2 , I am wondering about that ultram..that I took before the ms contin ?? i saw info that can have long lasting withdrawls.. so my thought of that only being a six month bout...could be be off... When I asked P manag. about tapering ..when she swithed me ..to ms contin..she acted like I was being dramatic..and a Wussy...I said,,oh..I thought I heard..blah blah..and she ignored me..
Personally..I see them as a "business" now..not CARE takers. I will look for a naturpath...And will be buying the glucosimine ..etc..After the accident, while in the hospital..in A HALO ...etc..casts everywear..jaw wired..my boyfriend began bringing in a liquid of glucosimine chondroitin, liquid calcium.. flax oil..and all organic high powered soups..I could only drink through a straw...we all said my recovery was miraculous..including neuro surgeon... they kept me in halo and i fused naturally..much to everyones delight..It was too bad that 2 years later..I was then hit with the reality..that I wasnt going to just recover and have my old life and body back.." ..after you deal with the physical aspects...as you said...the emotion must be addressed.I am going to look for a support group....asap...thank you again.. blessings ! also ..is there a web site where your jewelry can be seen ?? soleil skye
How R U doin this New Day Soleil? Have you rebooted yet? Kinda like a computer you cannot redo what is hardwired in us; I know at first the onset of this pain may question your decsions and is only normal to question "can this be done" or " what's next "? Take back the Day and your Life! reward yourself daily with innerhappiness and know your smiles are for real. I know far to well growin up since childhood knowing suffering and the mask we wear; keeping the pain bottled up and hidding it is the worst thing and I fear it has only contributed to my character flaw of not allowing those around me to be too close. I found through out my life not accpeting this suffering and drowning out the pain with meds only contributed to this factor.
Once free of this ideology of the only method of dealing with pain was pain meds I confronted the situation and mastered my pain and took back my life. Like a cub awakening from a long hibernation and discovering new smells and Life itself its exhilerating! I hope you find each Day a new discovery.
Its been years of learning how to let people get close to me; because you feel vaulnerable sharing your weakness and your faults. Our nature is to guard ones weakness and the pain tends to warrant alot of guarding and this leaves many to have a safety buble around us so vast it keeps us from allowing us to be loved or cared for. Please Soleil in your journey remember to not let the pain dwell within and find those close to you in your life and bring them closer to you. I know your daughter may not understan what MOM is goin through and you need support everyday until you find the right Tools and Ways of adjusting to your New Life! I know I mentioned one of my many Tools was my Art and I know evryone has a God given talent. I pray you will utilize yours to help you evryday! Umm...as far as my work I market alot of my design through our family Native Amercian Art Gallery. Still workin on that website thing though you can see the Oklahoma Dept. of Tourism video interview with my MOM! go to
http://www.oklatravelnet.com/?gclid=COvkvdOR548CFQJsPAodUHH0Cg#/Video/18199
all one line webaddress or search fro Oklahoma Native Art and Jewelry
It has been 13 years and I can say I get lost in my work and never give my pain a chance to win the day; though pain may take the moment from me; I conquor the Day! I see ya' like cooking and see this culinary skill as ART , a rediscovery may be in order here! you think? My brother is an executive chef in Las Vegas. all I know it brings him Joy and I think this is a handy Tool to start of with! anyways' after what you have been through you deserve to treat yourself everyday to a great meal!
You might have noticed how some see your action confronting this pain in this manner as drastic, but honestly you have only the best intentions of a better life and health and wellness. This wellness factor is a thing folks should support not deem your actions as dramatic and unecassary? The ability of keepn a hold of this is trial by error i must warn you, some days you will feel vulnerable and do not feel weak because we all find ourselves in this situation; that is why I am glad you are seekin a support group they are helpful to how others go foward. Remember we all trip along in on this path, it is as a lil child learning how to walk again. Remember the frustrations and feelings are pretty Raw at first but you have to discover new methods or breathing exercises to not allow these feelings to fester within.
Your Will and Courage and your determination guides you in this New Day and forever!
"Okie" Fella!
MB
hi okie, no..I didnt reboot, but quite honestly.i can see how I could ..Today..I am very ache'...just got up in sweat again..feel grumpy...actually its more like sober....like I am a little lost from the ritual of taking the pill..w/ my coffee...and drinking the two cups,, and waiting until i can float out of bed.. now..faced w/ the beginnings of reality..one day at a time..I know that im gonna have to deal with pain managment some way or the other...but as they say..just for today...I will continue to pray..and remind myself that the "lords grace is sufficient!" i will look for your site..thanx for that...i just realized this is day six ..yes !!
Hi! Soleil I am so Happy for you! Congrats!!!!!!!
Sure hope things have gotten a bit better for ya! Hope that fridge problem was resovled? Did you say that the person helping you with that problem had similar experiences getting off her Oxycontin? I would resch out to her if possible; to have a physical person their for you is important in those first steps of righting your life!
I hope your daughter is back with ya' and find solice in knowing that these struggles are worth a lifetime of memories and true emotional moments with her. I hope your appetitie has gotten normal and you being an experienced cook have rewarded yourself with some great meals? I wondered how your mother thought of this situation and I know she helped take care of your daughter at the time you needed help; does she think this is the best direction for you? Well' I thought I would say you are blessed to be surrounded by those that Love you and to keep them close when things seem tough or confusing. I know mornin's are the toughest and thses short term goal you can set for yourself will busy the mind as to distract you from some of the pain' now I can say not tht its not their! just that state you find yourself in; One of doin something you enjoy! This can allow you to find a moments through your day of Serentity and Peace a True Calmness. It can take time to find this but i urge patience and commitment and one will discover this now that you are in a state of clarity. 7 days you truly have the Lords guidence and yes His grace is sufficent for our suffering. Remeber he place people in our live as well to guide us and help us; so don't allow yourself to be alone and make sure you have a family physicain check your health progress and it is imperative to have that group support system as well!
God Speed!
Happy Mothers Day!
Okie' Fella
MB
Greetings...!! sat am..Its been a full week , over the hump !! Went to bed at 12:00 am and got up today 4:14 am..sleeping..is still slow.. YES , the support has been the foundation, even though I set out to do this ALONE !!.. I think that chronic pain can send you on a path "self internalization.."by nature..I myself..dont like for people to know ..or have found myself so tired of the "Story"....
But..as you mentioned..I feel God just picked me up ..and said..my way..not yours..Surrendering has been a "challange.".. for my "strong willed ways..!!"
I am currently at my mom's since yesterday..i thought I mentioned the plumber had to come and "snake the internal plumbing..in the middle of my detox..this was after fridge..incident..
well...apparently a pipe broke .and flooded my sons room which I had closed up..., since he was w/ gammie..so....It was a health hazard..mind you..I had never had any of these issues w/ my apt. until I decided to detox. 3 big yucky issues ..all to contend w/ while..doing so..I swear, I ve got to laugh..It seems so obvious that these were tests.. In recognizing that..I saw That a fight was..in order !! Thanx so much for having been there w/ me..like I said" "you are one of gods warriors for
sure !!!" I am still feeling pretty bad..anxious , weird chill flashes..I am resolved to let it take its course,,lots of pain too..Its been a while..since I could Identify each injury../ degeneration ..etc..I will restart PT...soon...and look for a group...etc..and figure out whats best for the aches..".for me," I cant put another opiod in my body..This is what I have " learned" about me.. !! yes..I have been eating well..and taking my supplements...looking forward to real sleep..!! today I will get fresh air..and take walk..Mt shasta... is an incredible place..A healing vortex ! I am blessed..to be here..Hope It a beautiful weekend for you ! TOO !! Happy Mothers Day..I will say a prayer for you under the mountain.! BLESS ! Soleil Skye