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find the cause
Randall Scott
Monday, September 28, 2009 at 02:30 PMre: find the cause
Megan Oltman
Monday, September 28, 2009 at 02:52 PMRandall I have to say I am very much affronted by your comment. I have been living with one form or another of neurologically based chronic illness for many decades. I use relaxation and visualization and biofeedback and yoga regularly and am more in touch with my psyche than most. Migraines and fibromyalgia are both neurologically based chronic conditions. They aren't casued by self criticism - they are caused by having a particular type of nervous system.
I came to this site to share with others with fibromyalgia who might have some guidance for me on this particular journey, since I am new to looking at this particular disaease for myself. I am a Migraine coach and activist and I attend medical conferences and know many of the top Migraine specialists in the country personally. My Migraines are not caused by negative thinking, self-criticism, or fear. I have been down the road of looking for the stress of negative thoughts that might have led to my disease - believe me, that's a blind alley, leading only to self-blame. I have no doubt that hypnosis like many other complementary therapies can help those of us with chronic neurological conditions to maintain the equilibrium we need in our systems, but the "cause" is not bad thoughts, the cause is our genetic make-up. What I need help with is coping and acceptance, and management skills, not useless probing into the past. If I want psychotherapy I know people to go to for that, and it is hideous effrontery in you to offer me psychotherapy which I have not asked for.
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Dontlooksick
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 01:05 AMHi Megan, I couldn't agree with you more. I have more than 1 chronic illness and neurological problems.I have been dealing with them for 22 yrs now although I didn't get firm diagnosis until about 10 yrs ago with the ones that don't show up on x-rays or MRI's. One thing I have learned ( although I still haven't learned how to work through it
) Is that people like you and me that finally get a diagnosis, we can then stop wondering if we were crazy, but then we have to go through a grief process. ALL 5 stages. I am fortunate to have a great Doc. that puts up with me even though I've been stuck in denial and anger for years. Just can't get past them. We miss what we were. What we were able to do, what we planned to do. And we're angry which makes us depressed. I personally just skipped bargaining. Who am I going to bargain with? My surgeon? I, personally, believe in God and know He has a reason for everything. I'm not going to know why right know though. You have a lot of my symptoms. Constant,daily, never ending headaches ( I did find a medicine that helps with these). Body aches like I always have the flu. I have fibro and Lupus and several other unseen problems that give me a bucketful of other symtoms. I got at least 60% of my life back with the right medications, when I finaally agreed to take them. I lost 10 yrs b/c of my "denial" I'm on my 22nd yr of dealing with this with this. I'm 45 now and there is something worse and something better everyday. It has helped to find other people that can REALLY empathize and not just humor you. Or, tell you to just get up or think positive and you'll feel better. If that were true we would have already done it huh? Good luck and let me know how you are.re: re: re: find the cause
Megan Oltman
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 09:53 AMThanks Dontlooksick for the reminder about the grieving process - I haven't really looked at where I am in that. I have been where you mentioned first - relieved to find a diagnosis that fits and explains what I have been experiencing. I doubt I've skipped right to acceptance, but I have been feeling much more at peace in knowing that my symptoms AREN'T in my head. My Migraines are well understood and well managed, it's the fatigue and mental fuzziness and yes, feeling like I have the flu all over my body, and extreme sensitivity to touch, that I have wondered about.
re: find the cause
Jon
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 10:29 AMFind the cause? And you think you, a hypnotist, are qualified to do that. That would be enough to make me laugh if it weren't so cruel and just plain stupid.
What are you doing here even? Trying to drum up business?
Megan was talking about a PHYSICAL illness, you jerk. Go crawl back under your rock.
Jon
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Thanks for your post
groovygal
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 10:57 AMHi Megan - I'm joining the community to say, first of all, that your migraine newsletters are great. As a newbie migraineur, I've found your comments very practical and helpful. You obviously know what you're talking about in that arena and are well-qualified to share your experience and expertise with we fellow sufferers. (My first migraine was the scariest experience of my life - such a relief, though I'm sad others suffer, to find I'm not alone.)
Second of all, I too have suffered from tiredness and chronic muscle pain, though I'm not formally diagnosed with fibro. (Muscle pain went away with Cymbalta, though next time I get it I'm heading to my doctor pronto.) I also suffer from IBS. (It turns out several of my relatives have migraines, IBS, and fibro as well.) I'm truly sorry to hear that your pain has increased and think you are headed in the right direction as you ask yourself these questions about it. Definitely having a doctor who listens to you will help you lots, both emotionally and physically, too. Thanks for posting and please let us know what happens.
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Welcome!
Karen Lee Richards
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 11:07 AMWelcome to the SharePosting section of ChronicPainConnection, Megan! I've appreciated your question answers and hope we can help and encourage you in this new journey you may be facing with fibromyalgia.
I'm sorry the first comment you received was a distressing one. Thankfully, comments like that are not the norm here. The vast majority of folks are nothing but supportive and helpful. But every once in a while, someone pops in to promote themselves and their product or service. Unfortunately FM still draws some people who like to insist it is a psychological problem, although they are fewer and farther between these days thanks to all the new research.
Please feel free to ask questions and let me know if there's anything we can do to help. – Karen
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Hello Megan: My name is Randall Scott. I am a Clinical Hypnotherapist.
The first thing we do, is find the cause of the pain. When did the migraines start.
Was there some thing stressful going on in you life?
So I think there is some self critcism, and some fear going on with you, that might have triggered these problems. So if you think I might know what I am talking about, please let me know if there is any thing I can do for you, I will talk to you soon.