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Do You Ever Lie to Your Doctor?

Karen Lee Richards
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Have you ever told your doctor that you rarely drink alcohol, when you actually have a drink every day?  Have you neglected to mention that you take St. John's Wort every day?  Or have you reported taking your medication as prescribed, when the truth is you take it when you feel like it or ...
  1. Thought provoking Sharepost
    Betty Boop Too
    Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 03:31 AM

    Karen

     

    Very interesting sharepost. 

     

    I had to think about this for a few moments before giving any thoughts on the matter.

     

    I'm one of the lucky ones, who's doctor treats me like a normal human who suffers with chronic pain.  He does not make me feel like I must lie or fabricate anything to get treatment.  He honestly listens and takes the time to go over all my questions or concerns with me.  I know that everyone is not so lucky though.

     

    I've had in the past, several doctors who do make you feel like you may have to exaggerate, fabricate or heaven forbib, be honest about what you might do in your private life.  If a patient were to mention they have a beer or two a couple times per week, they'd treat you like a dreadful alcohlic.  If you tell them you smoke, then your worst of all. lower than dirt. 

     

    I Understand how dangerous this could be for others and also how counter productive it can be for those who don't understand how their meds (what ever type they take) work and how easy they could seriously harm them selves.

     

    I find this to be an extreme problem with anti-depressants and those of us who take them.  I can't even count, how many people I have had to talk too, about their Ad's.  And how many of them only take them when they are down or are having severe anxiety attaks, etc.  I think it's so important for people to understand how their meds work and why they are still depressed, when they are not taking their meds correctly. 

     

    The internet has been such a wonderful source of educating oneself on your meds and really getting a good understanding of how & why they work or don't work for you.

     

    Thank you for bringing this up to us.  I think that everyone should think about this and I hope they have a doctor they are comfortable with and feel at ease to be completely honest with him/her.

     

    Take Care and Thank you again Friend

    Betty

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  2. lying to drs. about things
    cindi
    Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 05:36 PM

    hi karen, have to admit, i have lied to a dr., about drinking..before i started having to take pain meds, i would have a glass of wine while i was cooking (my passion:). and then have a glass with dinner, now i'm not talking everyday, but when i was preparing a nice romantic dinner for hubby and i, or when i would try a new recipe...just something i enjoyed. ....i now know it is is dangerous and do fiind myself STILL picking out a nice bottle of wime and pouring it and yes, sometimes i have a glass..(why lie on to you or anyone on here?)..but i have been giving up that one thing i truly enjoyed..picking out a perfect bottle of wine, that would go w/ the meal i am preparing...just another thing in my life i had to give up..because oof that one person that didn't bother to stop at a stop sign and hit me....

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    alifeinpain
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 08:13 AM

    Hi- I have to agree with cindi. While I don't think it's a good idea to lie to your doctor, I do thik some of us fudge the truth from time to time. I also can relate to your comment about having given up so much already "due to some one not bothering to stop at a stop sign", because that's exactly what happened to me to cause my life to change so drastically.

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    cindi
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 09:39 AM

    hi! i am so glad someone else on here..."fessed up"'..i kknow i can not be the only one that has lied to my dr....not anymore ( ok, there was that glass of champagne, i had, on our 25th anniversary:)..i know this is a serious situation, but i live in my home 24/7-365, because i can't walk for long before, i start hurting way too much, i can't drivee longer than an hour (even that long, gets my pain way up there), which means i cannot see my grandson, who is not even one year old, i can;t go to my kiddos spors or school activities..wel, you get the point...and  once in a while, i think i deserve something that has made me happy in the past ( i'm not just talking drinking..i don;t want anyone thinking i am a lush or somehing:), ust that 1 glass of wine w/ a romantic dinner w/ my hubby..what really can it harm??..oh boy, i am probably going to get a lot of negative feedback on that!!..but truly, my husband and i have come VERY close to divorcing, since this has happened and we are finally getting it together..so a glass of champagne for our 25th..is so wrong????..i am afraid to be honest w/ my pain clinic for fear of them "asking; me to leave...please, i know it could be potentially dangerous, i am not stpid, but truthfully , how many of you have "fibbed" just a bit , from time to time??...

    i am so sorry that you also had to give up things , it is hard enough to live life in pain, 24/7..and then to have to give up things that mean so much to you...me, my sweet ,darlin grandson, whom i can not see..because it is a 3!!!! hour drive..before this, i would have gone to see him every weekend, (if my daughter didn't tir of me::):)..but now..well, it just isn't fair..hope you are feeling as well as you possibly can...if you don't mind, would you feel like telling me "your story" and how it has affected your life??,,cindi..

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  3. truth telling
    zoe ashcraft
    Tuesday, October 20, 2009 at 08:58 PM

    Well put Karen~

     

    I for one have always been the type to be completely honest. So, I'm apauled when doctors occasionally- think that I might not be truthful. Why else go to them for help? Unfortunately, simply telling the truth usually isn't enough- it's best to talk to your pharmacist and do the research yourself on the drugs and possible interactions of your different meds.

     

    I have my own horror story about doctors prescribing that which almost cost me my life- a few years back, and I know I'm not the only one! Their excuse- they're just "practicing".

     

    One site on the internet a friend just made me aware of is an excellent place to see your med interactions yourself- is : http://www.drugs.com/

    Check it out!

     

    Blessings to you,

    and thanks for all your wonderful insights,

    prism

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    Anonymous
    Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 03:26 PM

    What is your background?  What type of degree do you have?  You do write some intersting stuff, being a Marine, I just want to know who you really are?

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    Karen Lee Richards
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 01:52 PM

    You can read more about my background and experience on my profile:  Karen Lee Richards' Profile

     

    If you have any additional questions, please click on "Send message" on my profile page.  I'll be happy to answer whatever I can.

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    roosterwes
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 02:38 PM

    I think and hope the author was trying to be sincere and not as judgemental as one may think.  Her profile is in third person, so I guess someone thinks she is important.lol 

    It does state that she is a patient advocate and lives with illness herself.Cool 

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    Anonymous
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    You can lie as much as you want to your doctor but you are the one that pays for consequenses later in life. Telling your doctor how much you drink or anything you do to harm your body is the best way. Sometimes, we don't like to hear what our doctors comments but regardless to what it is, we have to be honest. That is the only way to prevent or detect any bad health later along the way.

     

    AP

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  6. Lying to my Doctor
    sandy
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Hi there,

    I probably did when I was much younger but at 61 I have learned that lying to my doctors, any of them, will usually come back and bite me at some point.  In fact now I give them more information tham I  need to. I have been with most of my doctors for so long that they probably know me better than I know myself, given my memory problems! But it is an interesting question! Thank you!

    Sandy

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  7. lying to doctor
    roosterwes
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 02:28 PM

    If you drink at all, you must lie to your doctor if you want any pain meds.  That's just a fact.  Everybody knows it.  It happens every day.

    Almost every medication should not be taken combined with alcohol.  Even over the counter.  Blood pressure is a key factor most doctors even overlook when prescribing.  There are risks with anything you ingest into your body, and if there is any fudging on the patient's partI would suggest everyone be aware of the side and long-term effects and do their own research to boot.  I've had numerous doctors prescribe me multiple mixtures that could have spelled disaster.  Once my blood pressure dropped to 60/40.  I do not trust anyone.  I never will.

     

    That being said, I think there is a line btw what is the patient's business and what is the doctors.  I would never want to get a doc in trouble who is looking out for my well being.  They can't legally give you something that will potentially hurt you anyway.  I feel these rules protect those who don't know the information or are too ignorant to understand. 

     

    I say just be very informed.  If you know enough to know that fudging will keep you from being denied treatment, you should be smart enough to understand the consequences vs the benefits.

     

    Like I say, I wouldn't give someone pain meds who told me they drank every day eother, but in the end, it's our bodies.  No one wants to suffer.  Quit drinking and start exercising, or understand the complications that go along with mixing the two.  It's simple.

     

    For the record, I believe that heavy psyche meds is a whole different issue where there should be monitoring.  One should probably receive in house treatment for that.  It's just not readily available for everyone.  Also, I would never suggest lying about prescription meds.  If you need more than what they give you and have to be dishonest to get them, just don't do it.  Find another way. For most people at worst, you'll end up  at a pain clinic.  Once there, follow the rules.  They will be more than happy to disintegrate your liver reguardless, and you want have to feel like a criminal all the time.  In my case, it's live now or die later having accomplished nothing but bed sores from incapacitation.

    This is a very interesting subject here, and it is so easy for those who don't go through it to judge.  

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    Sherry
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 01:20 AM

    your comments are very negative, why are you even on here if you are going to talk trash about the treatments some of us receive and about the site's EXPERT that wrote the article? The site obviously published her profile, not her - she adds her own words at the bottom. People come here for support, not negativity.

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    roosterwes
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 06:33 AM

    the whole article suggests people lie  That is not negative?  I'm not trying to be negative.  Sorry it came across that way.

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    helene
    Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 01:25 PM

    This is a site for chronic pain patients..  It is not a site for sunshine, roses and daily affirmations only. (Perhaps you confused it with Daily Strength?)  Since when did expressing an opinion that is truthful for many patients, become negative just because you disagree with it?  What gives you the right to declare negativity off limits here and to tell another chronic pain patient to leave?  Who made you the Truth Monitor and the Official Censor, Susie Sunshine?  CAPITALIZING EXPERT doesn't mean the person who wrote the article is automatically and unquestionably correct either. Many equally qualified experts have very different opinions on the same subject.

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    cindi
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 02:59 PM

    hi!..sorry, but i found your post very negative, also. and i am sure it was , regardibg what i said, if not, i apologize, but i would like you to know i am not a lush...as i said, a GLASS of wine, a GLASS of champagne...on a few specail occassions in my life! i do not think my liver is disintergrating because of those few glasses of wine..more likely from the pain medicaion, i have to take for my excrutiating pain. ..i also am not playing the martyr. i am sure  a LOT more people on here have pain worse than i do ( and i truly feel for them, because i am in as much pain as i can possibly take).,,and i also know that most people have had to give up most of what they love most in thier lives, BECAUSE of pain..but this IS my body, and i truly do not think those few glases of wine i enjoyed ( yes, enjoyed), has hurt me in any way, now, i am not talking that it is just fine and dandy to drink and take medications...i just felt, i could tell the truth about what i do with MY life, on here, without being judged.

    oh, another thing, i would like to comment about...my pain meds do not help me as much as i would like them to..otherwisee why would i be practically homebound?..BUT, i am nervous about asking the drs. to "up" my pain meds, just because for the simple fact, they didn't feel i needed what they prescribed for me in the first place..you see some drs. do not believe anone can possibly be in "that" much pain, i have done everything they have suggested, injections (10), discogram (not a lot of fun), RFA ( also a very painful procedure and then worse pain following the procedure..for myself,anyway)..so i do follow my drs. orders, to try and rid me of my pain..i certainly am not in this for the fun..but to follow my drs orders every single day of my life..i think i had the "right" to have that 1-2 glass of wine.

    i, also want it known, that i totally agree w/ karen, you SHOULD NOT drink when you are taking pain medications..just wanted that to be known..but as i have said before, this is my life..painful as it is..it is MINE...please do not judge people when you haven't walked in thier shoes..as i am sure you are in pain and that i am sorry for..but i just thought i could be HONEST on here...cindi

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    Sherry
    Friday, October 23, 2009 at 06:06 PM

    Cindi,

    I just wanted to tell you not to let one negative person ruin your experience here. Most people on here are very understanding and not at all judgmental, from my experience. I mainly post on the Migraine site, since that is what I suffer from, but I come over here some,too. I see nothing wrong with you having an occasional glass of wine. You are so right, it is YOUR body, so it is your choice what you choose to put into it.

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    cindi
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 02:56 PM

    HI! ..yeah, sherry, i know that most people on here are not negative, or pass judgement on others...that is why i am on here!!!...i have found a few CLOSE friends..and always enjoy getting into discussions,or should i say debates?:)..i feel very sorry for all those that come on this site,,, it is soooo sad , as denise has written ( if you haven'y read her post, on how man people suffer from pain, in this country..read it,,,good stuff!)..but to get back to what i was saying..it is so damn sad that soo many people suffer, EVERY day of thier liivesFrown..i try and be as helpful and HONEST , when i write on here..after alll, we are in the same situation..i'm sorry if some people found my post, about being honest on here,..offensive. but if i am going to lie to people on here, i don't belong here!!

    i am sorry you suffer from migraines..some bad pain, used to get them , when i was menstrating and when i was pregnant..i still get them occasionally, when very stressed, so i understand what you are going thru, do you get the auras?..that was the worst for me, the pain was bad, but when my eyesight used to go all crazy on me, it was scary..what do you do for your migraines??..the dr. i used to see at the time i was pregnant, prescribed tylenol3..but wouldn't take it cuz, i was pregnant, he said it wouldn't harm the baby..but i didn't believe that, i even gave up my occasional glass of wine:):):)..hope that you are being well taken care for them, and thank you for writing...anytime you are on here, drop me a line and let me know how you are doing, kay?...best to u...cindi

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    helene
    Sunday, October 25, 2009 at 01:50 PM

    Roosterwives,

    My comment was meant for Sherry, not for you.  I fully support your right to tell the truth. Those who fear anything that they label "negative" will never be of much help to chronic pain patients.  The facts tht concern us are often very ugly, but we need to know those most of all to protect ourselves.

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  8. Truth is Bad Enough
    papamozo
    Thursday, October 22, 2009 at 04:29 PM

    I must say, I've NOT lied to my doctor, but I think the things I have told him have stressed him enough. I feel like the guy on the Liar, Liar movie, who cannot lie. I know he has my best interest in mind, so I feel the need to let him know everything. I think he trusts me, even though he doesn't agree with my decisions sometimes.  My usual admission is that I've tried WAAAAAY too much medicine (OTC) that would did not end up helping anyway.

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    Bonnie Girl
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    I don't believe I have knowingly ever lied or omited purposely anything when I go to the doctor..I keep a running history on my desk top of all meds, surgereis, new problems and ongoing problems..I print the history out iwht every doc I see..It also includes all docswith telephone numbers an faxes..It incldues my cell number and my pharmacy..

     

    With fibro, sjorgens, stage 1 autoimmune liver disease, raynauds, disc disease, arthritis, neck fusion and now this recent fall it takes all I have to remember.. 

     

    But, IF not telling the whole truth got me a real life Dr HOUSE to help me then i would knowingly do so..Of course by the time I find a doctor like House as many of his pts. I will be on my last breaths anyways..:^)  So until then I will stick with being proactive and take my ongoing history withme.. 

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    cindi
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 03:09 PM
    wierd, how many times, have i said to myself, wish i could find a dr. like "house"..even tho, fictional...THAT is what a dr. should be doing...taking his time, figuring out what is going on in a persons life, diagnosing the problem...wouldn't care at all about his bedside manner :)..just to find a dr. like that would be fabulous, someone that takes the TIME too figure out why your hurting so bad...instead of looking at his watch, knowing he has 10-20 patients left too see besides me, or just to give you pain meds and out the door!!..and, yes, i would NOT care if my dr. was taking vicodin for HIS pain, as long as he took care of mine!!..love that show!!...cindi
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    Bonnie Girl
    Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 05:01 PM

    Smile AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  10. I can't see the point in that....TRUST is not built on Lies.
    PainBack07Aust
    Monday, November 02, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    I believe that one should see only on doctor so a history can develop over time, and you also need to build up TRUST so that you can let ur guard down.

     

    As with Lieing to a Doctor forget it, imagine if you did on day an the GP believed everything you said.  He/She then gives u a script for something to help this problem, and you go get it from the chemist, and take it at the recomeded dose, and the next morning your family wakes up and finds that you don't, OMG whatg did u just do...Shorten you life just by telling a LIE, it is not worth IT.

     

    PLEASE DON'T DO IT, for your Family and Friends Sake if not ur OWN....

     

    SO the Answer is NO, Never....

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