Doctors "contracts"

medicfl1 Community Member May 08, 2008
  • I call on any patient denied medical treatment because they would not sign a forced placed contract created by their Doctor; requiring testing of their choice at such time as they deem it necessary; requiring either you or your insurance company to pay for such testing deemed not medically necessary or said illegal contract be made a precursor to your medical treatment to immediately report that doctor to the American Medical Association and your Congressman and if you have the financial means, contact your lawyer.

     

    We do not require our doctors to pass testing prior to paying them, nor do we make them sign a contract stating that their treatment will do no harm, including the medications they prescribe. No Doctor would sign any such contract, Nor should YOU.

     

    As an American it is your duty to report this illegal activity. What if treatment were withheld from your loved one or our military personnel.

     

    You are urged to act at once before this behavior actually does someone harm.

     

    What if your town only had one Doctor and he/she would not treat because of failure to sign this illegal contract. Chronic pain does harm to the human body. Your standing up today will help those of tomorrow.

     

    Report abuse at once.

8 Comments
  • Anonymous
    sailbum
    Sep. 21, 2010

    I have also signed one of these pain management contracts.  I have been on pain management for years and likely will be for the rest of my life.  I am currently on two different schedule II drugs just to get the pain under control enough so I can get out of bed.  I had no choice but to sign the contract with the doctor, since all pain management...

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    I have also signed one of these pain management contracts.  I have been on pain management for years and likely will be for the rest of my life.  I am currently on two different schedule II drugs just to get the pain under control enough so I can get out of bed.  I had no choice but to sign the contract with the doctor, since all pain management doctors in CA seem to require them.  I am at least lucky in that my doctor does not appear to be as rigid as some others.  I am not restricted to a single pharmacy, which is a good thing because on occasion my regular pharmacy has been out of my medications.  In addition I have, under emergency situations, received narcotics from other sources.  This was when I got food poisoning and could not keep anything down, including the oral medication.  In addition to the food poisoning, I went into withdrawal so the hospital emergency room had to give me IV pain medication.  I let my doctor know and he did not raise a stink about it and just let it go.  He understood it was an extreme situation and I was not trying to do anything in violation of the spirit of the contract.  The contract also does not include any provision that would allow him to have me put in a psych hospital or submit to mandatory psychiatric/psychological treatment.  It does include a provision for random drug testing, but he has only tested my once in the 4+ years I have been seeing him.

  • Todd
    Aug. 20, 2010

    In responce to the above, I would like to address a few points.  First of all, medicine is considered a science....therefore nothing is absolute.  A doctor can't sign that he/she will do no harm, because they cannot say that for an absolute fact (example : patient given asprin and has a reaction, although no previous history of asprin allergy). ...

    RHMLucky777

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    In responce to the above, I would like to address a few points.  First of all, medicine is considered a science....therefore nothing is absolute.  A doctor can't sign that he/she will do no harm, because they cannot say that for an absolute fact (example : patient given asprin and has a reaction, although no previous history of asprin allergy).  Secondly, in regards to a doctor signing something stating they know what he/she is doing or taking a test to prove it....called medical school.  All docs have spent 4 years there and at least three in residency.  Also, all physicians are required to have a certain number of hours of continuing medical eduation each year, as well as recertify their boards every 7-10 years.  So, doctors seem to be tested all the time.  Finally, most drug tests are covered by insurance companies, and usually are a urine test and therefore noninvasive.  In a time where perscription drug abuse has surpassed cocaine and heroin combined, making sure drugs are being used properly is essential.  Also, for a physician to keep their DEA number it is also essential to show that they are keeping a checks and balances system.  It is the way our system of medicine and society has evolved.  If a person is truly in pain and not just seeking drugs, a little urine test from time to time should not be a problem.

  • Cporovich
    Jul. 22, 2010

    I also signed this contract. After a bad car accident and being on morphine which I have taken 2xs a day for over a year, my surprise test came back negative.  I am still in shock and was dropped for violation. I am now trying to get the money together for a hair follicle sample which will predate the lab test. Doc says one chance, no more, no retake,...

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    I also signed this contract. After a bad car accident and being on morphine which I have taken 2xs a day for over a year, my surprise test came back negative.  I am still in shock and was dropped for violation. I am now trying to get the money together for a hair follicle sample which will predate the lab test. Doc says one chance, no more, no retake, nothing. So now i have to scramble to find another Pain Management dr since i am scheduled to start Intense pain therapy...on no meds??? My own familiy dr will not pick up my meds because of this failure.  Not to mention the Dr who discharged me also wrote up a letter stating..."patient has a negative test of morphine even though i have been prescribing her morphine for months" How am I to find another Dr with that in my file?? This contract is set up for the guilty, but yet makes the innocent assumed guilty immediately! What can I do??? Lab said is no way I came up Zero if i took them for they assured me they tested for Morphine, my other meds showed up...wow..just..blown away.

  • Anonymous
    James Duncan
    Jan. 17, 2010

    I signed an agreement saying I would not go to other doctors for my pain meds. I also agreed to only use one pharmacy to fill them. I also agreed to let my doctor admit me for psychological evaluation should he/she think it should be done. Also that I'd not lose them? Not share them. Not sell them. Not use illegal drugs I.E. Cocain-Pot-ect. I understand they...

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    I signed an agreement saying I would not go to other doctors for my pain meds. I also agreed to only use one pharmacy to fill them. I also agreed to let my doctor admit me for psychological evaluation should he/she think it should be done. Also that I'd not lose them? Not share them. Not sell them. Not use illegal drugs I.E. Cocain-Pot-ect. I understand they (doctors) want to protect people from abuse of the drugs. But be admited to a psych ward? without my premission? Or not to use another pharmacy? What if I find a better price BTW I am a cash pay on my meds. Or what if by mistake I do lose them? Or what if I go to my pharmacy and they don't have the meds for a day or two? Do I suffer because of this? What if I'm not happy with the care I'm getting at that doctor, and wish to see another for better care? I find contracts to be a viloation of ones freedom to chose.

    • Anonymous
      Migraineur
      Feb. 18, 2010

      I don't disagree, but I think they get around the "violation of rights" argument by the simple fact that one doesn't have to go to that dr. or that clinic for treatment. They aren't violating your right to choose, you've chosen to seek their treatment. If you sign the contract, you're accepting their treatment under their conditions.

      It might not be fair, but...

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      I don't disagree, but I think they get around the "violation of rights" argument by the simple fact that one doesn't have to go to that dr. or that clinic for treatment. They aren't violating your right to choose, you've chosen to seek their treatment. If you sign the contract, you're accepting their treatment under their conditions.

      It might not be fair, but it seems straightforward to me. Your option is to seek treatment elsewhere.

      Not saying I agree, just that this is how I read the situation.

    • Lindsay
      Aug. 20, 2010

      Correct answer. They have their rules. We agree or not. Our choice. We don't sign, we either get no meds or move on. As I researched this a lot some time back this is coming out of the DEA with doctors since about 2007 because we have more problems with prescribed meds now than illegal drugs. They are not taking into consideration that a lot of research shows...

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      Correct answer. They have their rules. We agree or not. Our choice. We don't sign, we either get no meds or move on. As I researched this a lot some time back this is coming out of the DEA with doctors since about 2007 because we have more problems with prescribed meds now than illegal drugs. They are not taking into consideration that a lot of research shows people with chronic pain rarely, if ever, mistreat their pain meds. In fact, a patient in control of pain meds will take less not more of the meds! Mainly, younger people, especially kids are taking parents' meds for the kicks of it. They have "pharm parties."

       

      I feel this entire thing is putting mistrust between patient and doctors, and that also increases pain. Any stress does. I'm being tapered (not my idea) off my meds now. No plan for when it hits zero. I had some dental work (surgery) recently so I ran out of medication early last month. I'm low now and will be out next week. I become pretty anxious and stressed and icky when the withdrawal kicks in. Doctor doesn't care. IF a dentist were to give me a prescription I can take it, but I have to inform my primary care doctor. When I feel up to it I'm going to look harder for a better doctor who actually does more than shake my hand when he enters the exam room. What exam?

       

      I think we should all inform our Congressmen and Senators about our situations. It pays if enough people complain! This week people got very angry because Target gave a huge amount of money to one state to help their choice for governor get elected (by any means just about). A boycott began, and the Board is rethinking what they are all about. It proved that if people will act, companies and representatives will listen and act. Target also has problems with employees as I recall. Walmart is on a list too and needs the same thing. It may already be happening or did. But as soon as a company's Board of Directors hears one thing about WE THE PEOPLE taking our business elsewhere, they get upset. Target's shareholders just went "berserk" which REALLY got their attention so everyone who has ANY dealings in ANY manner with a corporation who mistreats employees, doesn't pay enough, fires without fair cause, etc., etc. brings that corporation to attention. This springs from the Supremes ruling that a corporation is a person with the same rights, and money is their form of "free speech." But the people are active and angry so this can be handled by US if we just act.

  • Anonymous
    B.Moore
    Jun. 15, 2008

    I totally agree!! I have never been prescribed pain medication. Never!! But I have dealt with pain my entire life. I suffored from repetative knee disslocations starting at the age of 10 . By the time I was 17 I had two reconstructive surgerys done on my right knee and one on my left. I have staples holding my patella tendens in place in both knees. I am 45...

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    I totally agree!! I have never been prescribed pain medication. Never!! But I have dealt with pain my entire life. I suffored from repetative knee disslocations starting at the age of 10 . By the time I was 17 I had two reconstructive surgerys done on my right knee and one on my left. I have staples holding my patella tendens in place in both knees. I am 45 years old now and one of the staples are pulling out. I have no cartelage in either knee and am completely dibilitated from the pain. I have no insurance so I am reduced to going to comunity clinics and seeing nurse practitioners and PA's. I bring up pain and they turn ghost white with a resounding "NO". I was finally givin a referall to a doctor specializing in joint replacement but he wont do it because of my age. Aparently the type of replacement I need, even if I had the money to pay for it, isnt garanteed to last for more then 15years. H e recomends that I wait at least 5 more years before I have one done wich will still leave me with the other one. I said fine then maybe by then I will have either insurance and or the money saved up to pay for it. But when I asked to get pain medication to get some releife he said OK just sign this contract. I said what contract. H esaid it is standard proceidure. It will help protect me from taking to much and becoming addicted. Protect me!! I dont think so. After reading it it is quite clear that it serves no purpose then to protect him from liability. This is sick!! We are supossed to live in a free society with freedom of choice and the right to make our own decisions conserning our health.

     I had no idea that these contracts are illegal. But rest assured I am going to find out more and will lead the fight in my area.

    I signed the contract. I have no choice. My quality of life is zero! He prescribed me Tylenal3 with codeine!! Can you beleive it? It doesnt do anything. So my rights where violated for nothing!!!!!!

    • Anonymous
      koala
      Jul. 04, 2009

      I have severe chronic pain for about 15 years after I had two neck surgeries and this year had a foot surgery too which is no better.  I am under pain management for some years now and I have no idea that signing the doctor contact was against the law. How do you go about find out what you do about this matter. I am tired about these doctor upper...

      RHMLucky777

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      I have severe chronic pain for about 15 years after I had two neck surgeries and this year had a foot surgery too which is no better.  I am under pain management for some years now and I have no idea that signing the doctor contact was against the law. How do you go about find out what you do about this matter. I am tired about these doctor upper arm when all you want is to feel better and live your life as normal as possible.