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Q: Discomfort Under Right Rib Cage,side And Back

Discomfort Under Right Rib Cage,side And Back

my sister She has been to so many doctors and its been now over a year now and no one can give an answer.

from a heat stroke can you get nerve damage?

doctor 1- Gastrologist- said baterial ulcer and took gall bladder out and still have pain.

doctor 2- MD- said shingles- over year still have pain nothing

doctor 3- Neurolgist- Costal nuroploy-b12 shots

doctor 4- Pain Clinic dont know. need to see someone else.

doctor 5- Nurclear meds want to do now.

We have gotten a run around on all doctors on this. see cant sleep or work like she use to and is hurting so much the meds they give her dont even work and the patches for pain. Cry_She said when pressing on that side she can hear a pop and rolls in that area. what other kind of doctor is there for this or can someone direct me to a good doctor that will not push her on the side and just give her meds and not find out what it is.

Thank you for listening to me. If you know of anything please let me know.

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feathers2069, Community Member
3/25/10 5:51pm

OH MY !!! She got results from the Thorsitic Sergeon and the same thing that he replyed:

I DONT KNOW... omy why do we have doctors. not one has helped her yet and every specialist we have been to dont know what it is. every test has been done. I have a question for all.... If a football player gets hurt in the ribs what kind of doctor does he go to????? not a sports medicain doctor..... now she is so down talking things like i have never heard before. God help her find some doctor that cares and can do something. thanksCry

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Sanel1426, Community Member
6/ 8/10 12:50pm

OMG, whatever your sister has I have too!  Just like her I did everything seen so many doctors done so many tests and nothing and nothing....

Right now I am here setting at work and it eating me alive... sharpe pain all around my right rib cage... How can I be happy and smile be like before.. I was always happy... I am only 25 years old... I dont want to deal with this for the rest of my life... Someone needs to help us figure out what is causing this we are not the only ones it all over the internet...

Please keep posting news updates.. Anyone who can or wants to help!

 

Thank you!

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feathers2069, Community Member
6/ 8/10 6:04pm

they are now giving her vit. B12 shots everyweek and cholestoral but thats it has been on patches for some time now. please email at lcochran1826@bellsouth.net   I would love to keep intouch with you as we go and see what else is out there. thanks lynn

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BackBreaker, Community Member
12/ 7/10 8:48am

I am a 52 year old man from the UK who is still going through the hell of this pain since my 30's. (Pain in my thorasic spine and right rib cage). The pain is made worse by any pressure to my back or right side which means I cannot sit or lie down for any length of time. Sometimes I get an unexpected jabbing pain in my shoulders which feels like someone is proding me with a knitting needle. I also have sciatic pain down my left leg so I am constantly trying to find a less painfull way to rest and I am always strethching which gives momentary relief.
Doctors don't know what it is but I am sure it is something to do with a disc in my thorasic spine. I've had this constant pain for so long now, (dull, aching sometimes sharp), that I feel I have done more research than the doctors!
I have had ultra sound, bone scan, barium meal, blood tests (twice), x-rays (2 types), antidepressants (several), and seen a chest specialist. All tests were clear. The rheumatologist suggested it was 'Tietz syndrom' or soft tissue rhuematism. My doctor refuses me an MRI.
I am supposed to  take gabapentin 300mg (2 x 3 times daily) for the nerve pain and codydramol (2 x twice a day) for the muscular pain but find that they sap my energy through the day so I have been reducing the dose. Unfortunately this leads to increasing pain again. So I am juggling between whether to take medication and have low energy and not taking so much medication so that I will have more energy to be able to work. I think the answer is to medicate properly and get as much sleep as I can.
However I know this pain will never go away and that I will have to live with it. The pills only partially block the pain and the constipation from the codydramol is not very pleasant but there is not much else I can do. I wonder if medical marijuana would help me but I know I would never be prescribed such a thing.
Anyway I hope this helps fellow sufferers.

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ctinac777, Community Member
10/10/11 11:31am

Has there been an update on your Sisters condition? I have the same issues with mid back pain, pain under rib cage, upper right side back pain, occasional lower back pain, extreme bloating and discomfort ( was prescribed Nexium and other medications for heartburn for months before I went to another Dr where they determined i was iron deficient anemia...  have had blood work, gall bladder checked, been going to a chiropractor, gastro, had edoscopic ultrasound, colon checked, stomach checked etc. THis has been going on for over a year and a half. Also had the lining of my uterus removed a few months ago due to another issue. Not sure if that is related.Very frustrating.  Now i am having a strang Foot pain in my right foot in the arch area. I am going to have pancreas and Liver checked and ask for an xray of my mid back area. I just want to make sure they aren't missing anything serious. If it ends up being just pain then I guess I am just going to keep going to pialtes and yoga and the chiropractor to see if that helps! I am interested to see if ANYONE with these symptoms has ever found a solution or an answer. I am only 39 years old. I am not overweight however I am not in great shape anymore.

 

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dsleff, Community Member
2/23/12 8:26pm

Have you been checked for Celiac Disease?  Is your duct in your gallbladder blocked?  Have you been tested for Fibroid Tumors? I have exactly the same conditions as you and am wondering what your answer was.

 

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Nen77, Community Member
10/16/12 4:36pm

I was on B12 shots as well but it did nothing for the pain and it cause my heart to race so I stopped getting them....

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Cynthia, Community Member
6/20/10 10:58am

Off and on for several years I have had discomfort and a feeling of fullness under my right rib cage.  Finally, a new doctor ordered an ultrasound, then a ct then an MRI.  Showed simple cysts on the liver and kidney and one in the pancreas that could possibly have PRE malignant cells.  The only way to tell for sure was to do an ERCP procedure----endoscopic needle biopsy.  The they removed some cells from the pancreas for study and said that I have chronice pancreatitis (I'm not a drinker) and gastritis.  The post op instructions said that I should be feeling better in a few hours, but at 10:30 that night I was still in a lot of discomfort and very bloated.  They pump you full of air for the procedure, but you normally expell that by burping and passing gas, and I wasn't doing much of either.  My doctor sent me to the ER, they did a CT and said that the procedure and irritated my already irritated pancreas and now I had acute pancreatitis.  The only way to heal it, they said, it nothing by mouth, not ever water or ice chips for awhile.  After a couple of days, they started me on a liquid diet---broth, jello, etc.   I came home late Thursday night, still not feeling right and still very bloated, but thinking there was no way that I hadn't lost a couple of pounds.  I had GAINED 5 pounds.  This really scared me because I was had been fasting before the procedure and probably hadn't had 1000 calories from Sunday night to Thursday night.  The bloating starts up between my breasts down into the abdomen and concentrates on the right side.  Not horrible pain, just a soreness and misery with the bloating.  I do not have a gallbladder.  I am feeling a little bit better this morning.  They are jujst planning to moniter this cyst with another MRI in 3 months.  Apparently, the only was to remove it is by Whipple Surgery, which the doctors say is extremely complicated, major surgery.  There is only one doctor in Austin that does it.

Well, what I started out to say, was----have they checked your pancreas?  Good luck!

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Wicked Kisses, Community Member
5/13/09 8:13pm

I would seriously suggest a chiropractor have a look. Have they even bothered with xray or MRI?

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slc243527, Community Member
5/19/09 12:58am

I have this samething right now. I am so scared that is something serious. I havent went to the doctor yet, because our hospital here is a joke. If you do find out what it is post it. Sorry your going through this. I know it isn't gall bladder problems because I had mine removed 6 years ago.

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Angel R., Community Member
12/16/09 9:04pm

Have you looked into hydronephrosis?  Just an idea.....Hope this helps you!

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jsmith10_6_83, Community Member
6/ 5/10 1:04pm

I too am going thru this same thing and I went to the doctor and they told me it was a  gerd eruption, I don't think they know what they are talking about, I have no pain where any type of acid reflux would bother me. I have aslo had my gallbladder removed. Its making life difficult.

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Brenda, Community Member
3/19/12 1:42am

Dont  wait to long to see a good gastro doctor,...I have had that same symptom for over a year and it ended up being a narrowing in my common bile duct...so my doctor did an ercp....and a brushing put a stent in and in six months had to have a new one put in again....the brushings showed everything was benign....now a year later, I had this excrutiating pain in the mid of my stomache, went to emergency and they couldn't find anything wrong with my blood work, so they sent me home and told me to go to the doctor about my stent, and so he sent me for an ultra sound, aand this is only 5 months since the last stent was put in, and I had to wait for a doctor to tell me if it turned out, she said, the bile duct is completely closed and the stricture has grown three times the size in 5 months, so to an emergency cat scan..... Needless to say I was in Vancouver last weekend they were doing a test to see if I had pancreatic cancer...I don't, but I do have bile duct and liver cancer......now I need to see the liver surgeon...but remember I had no sign of  cancer in my blood, not even when my bile ducts blocked, nothing everything came back normal....until this very last one, my liver enzymes were raised just a bit.....I  have a fast moving cancer, a nasty one and we have to get on it right away.....so don't wait....if you keep having this pain....find a doctor...get you bile ducts checked....your liver get an ultra sound, and don't stop till the find your problem......you know when something is wrong with your body....I knew a year ago something wasn't right.....hope that helps

sincerely concerned

 

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beach 11, Community Member
8/15/11 7:54pm

Hi been reading all the problems with the right side!!  Well I am 70 . had my gallbladder out almost 7 years ago and have had this problem all this time after it was removed.  I have had all the test the blood work etc.  I have burning pain under the right rib and a spot that is so tender if I push on it at all  The pain just sends thur the roof. It goes to my back a under the ribs to the middle of the front ,

I am wine drinker and sometime I will bother me more after I have had a glass of wine.  I drink about 5 to 8 oz.s daily most of the time it is red wine.  At night it is just a little dull pain way on the right rib if I sleep on that side. When I have blood work done about ever 6 to 8 months all seems to be ok. So I have learned to live with this!  I really trust my Dr and he does not seem to be concerned that I have a really serious problem. I take no medications I have a good diet, maybe about 20lbs too heavy. I walk every day about 2 miles and try to take really good care of myself.  The disconfort I have with this may last about 6 weeks to 3 months and leave just as it started and not return for 6 to 8 months or longer. I have given up trying to find out the problem .  My Dr. did say It could be the same virus as shingles.  He was just no sure.  So I am living with it.am  

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Brenda, Community Member
3/19/12 1:46am

don't just live with it .  If it bothers you more when you drink your wine, its got to be something in your liver.....ask them to check your liver.....

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beach 11, Community Member
8/15/11 7:54pm

Hi been reading all the problems with the right side!!  Well I am 70 . had my gallbladder out almost 7 years ago and have had this problem all this time after it was removed.  I have had all the test the blood work etc.  I have burning pain under the right rib and a spot that is so tender if I push on it at all  The pain just sends thur the roof. It goes to my back a under the ribs to the middle of the front ,

I am wine drinker and sometime I will bother me more after I have had a glass of wine.  I drink about 5 to 8 oz.s daily most of the time it is red wine.  At night it is just a little dull pain way on the right rib if I sleep on that side. When I have blood work done about ever 6 to 8 months all seems to be ok. So I have learned to live with this!  I really trust my Dr and he does not seem to be concerned that I have a really serious problem. I take no medications I have a good diet, maybe about 20lbs too heavy. I walk every day about 2 miles and try to take really good care of myself.  The disconfort I have with this may last about 6 weeks to 3 months and leave just as it started and not return for 6 to 8 months or longer. I have given up trying to find out the problem .  My Dr. did say It could be the same virus as shingles.  He was just no sure.  So I am living with it.am  

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Willie, Community Member
3/17/13 1:24am

I think it is strange that SO many of us had our gall bladder removed and we are experiencing this pain under the right rib.  Mine is hurting SO bad right now, and I am worried it is something serious.  I have told my doctor several times, and this week I am making an appointment and insisting that he check further. 

Thanks for sharing!

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Carrie, Community Member
4/ 8/12 5:07pm

I know how disheartening it is when the only hospital in your area is nothing but a "glorified band-aid station."   It's sad that medical care is so inferior and impersonal.  Hang in there!

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cherokiimslm, Community Member
5/26/09 7:12pm

please please please let me know if she finds out her problem I am livin in a living hell for more than 2 yEARS with this problem and if u find out plsssss let me know!! Frown my mail is the ID shown here @ yahoo

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Stacy, Community Member
12/18/09 4:02pm

I have had the same pain under my ribs it is very tender to the touch. Sleeping is a nightmare in it's self trying to turn over, cough, sneeze, bend over, pick up anything, if this is what she has expierenced then i have the same thing i originally broke an upper rib but when that healed this came on rapidly. I went to doctor and they said it was costcotitis or something like that but really cant figure out when it will get better, doc says to take calcium and Viatamin D and it could last up to a year....can't deal with that so i am going for second opinion.

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jcas, Community Member
6/ 5/09 5:10am

Hi. Sorry she is in so much pain. I am not a doctor. 

 

pain under right rib cage, sometimes radiates to side and back- worse during period. No popping. do get a Dull nagging pain and sometimes pain which makes it painful to move in certain positions. Have to get comfortable position.  Sometimes it can be sharp and stabbing, intermittent with dull and aching. It can last for 2 weeks+.

 

I have put the following below for possible pain management pending diagnosis together with a small list of things that might be causing the problem. A diagnosis is required but if you can rule in/out foods that affect the pain, then it may help you and your doctor come to the right diagnosis.

 

In a nutshell: Drink Cranberry Juice. Change diet no carbs more protein, Drink a little water too to keep you hydrated. Cut out sugar pronto. Cut out gluten products (flour,pasta,bread & potatos,biscuits and crisps, cola drinks etc) to see if this reduces pain. (a diet of chicken and rice and veg/salad for time being).Of course this also means no beer!   

 

The Drs first always try to rule out medical emergency problems, like gallstones etc. Your sister should go back to her doctor regardless.  upper and lower abdomen ultrasound. Clear. Blood test. clear. Urine test. Clear. Keep checking with your doctor as regards to symptoms but perhaps try a change of diet to help manage the pain.  

 

pain experienced mainly a week before, during and a week after period. lucky to have 2 weeks sometimes where pain not occurring. Is this the same for your sister?  It is perhaps therefore hormonal/enzyme related and made worse by foods (like sugar, sugary drinks? Bread/pasta/potato?).

 

If you find that sugar and/or flour products cause pain to increase then please inform your doctor.

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Celiacs (gluten intollerance that can cause damage to the intestine)-need to avoid gluten for life!

Pancreas problem-hormones and sugar intake can be related.

Candidiasis (over growth of candida albicans ask Doctor to check for this.

Antibiotics and antacids are not recommended and can increase the candida.

Endometritis(spelling?) is another possible cause which may need to be ruled out?

 

Good luck with this and of course keep smiling!

 

 

 

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rain-dancer, Community Member
6/18/09 2:52am

I have been thru this for so long. She needs to absolutely be tested for Celiac Disease. She needs the blood tests there are several as well as a endoscope with a biopsy of small intestine. If blood tests are neg. and biopsy is neg but shows inflamation then she need to have a genetic test for HLA gene DQ2 and DQ8. I was finally diagnosed at Mayo Clinic in Minn. My blood test were neg and biopsy just showed inflamation but diagnosis was made by checking the genes.

Also she could have some scarring from the gallbladder being taking out. I had mine taken out because they thought that was the problem several years before the celiac diag.

When of my gluten diet my symptoms are like IBS or Crohns, I get ulcers, very fatiqued, muscle weakness, depression and foggy thinking.

She need a good internal med Dr.

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rain-dancer, Community Member
6/18/09 3:03am

I've also had the crackling and popping, and the numbness and tingling which is caused by nutrient deficency from untreated celiac.

If she decides to have any  tests done  make sure she doesn't avoid wheat before testing as it can throw the tests off.

Hope this helps

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jcas, Community Member
4/ 8/12 11:18am

Hi - update! In England

 

Have suffered this for 4-5 years now and it has got progressively worse Cry sry. I hve had to give up work now. It has become disabling and the pain affects concentration.  Drs keep saying 'IBS' however this is daily and chronic and i do nto have symptoms of IBS as per Colpermin IBS results (online test ww.ibs-symptoms.co.uk)

Some symptoms i have suffered/ suffer from:

Distended Abdomen

Pain under right rib started intermittent stabbing with dull ache now moderate to severe pain most of the time, pain in rib cage constant(agony). used to have a week off at least!

Peritonitis symptoms /rigid abdomen for 6- 8 months in 2011

Migraine

Nausea,fatigure, weakness, with hot flushes lately. right side flank pain.

Loss of appetite

Breathing and ability to move right leg affected on occasions(diaphragm?) It has become disabling&  i don't have much of a life.  spend most of the time bent over and all of the time having difficulty coping with pain. Full bladder now makes the pain worse as does eating/drinking, though the moderate to severe pain i now suffer never goes away, save for a few minutes here and there.

 

 

Pain killers may be affecting my kidney as i now have back ache with stinging and pain went over left said of abdomen for first time this Easter. I have had to stop taking them this weekend!!  My whole abdomen across the belly button painful and just above it. Difficult to cope with the daily pain every moment. Food and drinking definately  makes it worse-it never goes away now.

 

Tests i have had;

Blood, urine, stool.

 tube down throat; clear, tube up bottom didn't manage to make it very far!

 Mri -didn't show anything.

Pelvis Transabdominal and Transvaginal didn't show anything, save urinary retention(had emptied my bladder just before). when bladder full pain is worse and wakes me up during the night lately as the pain increases.

 

I am due for a laparoscopy to check my colon, but not till May if the appt doesn't get put back again! Gastro appointment STILL PENDING! having to chase while i am ill is a problem..

 

I am thinking it is either diseased/inflamed Colon, duodenum, pancreas/gallbladder biliary/liver/kidney (when i attended A&E and they put a drip in me it was the best i had felt for a long time).. i have not yt been given antibiotics by my GP so these may be worth a try.?

 

Note; the pain was worse during ovulation/menstruation however i have stopped this with the pill however the pain is just as severe though the rigid abdomen ceased, which may just be a coincidence.

 

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Stacia, Community Member
6/18/09 8:22am

I have had the same pain, but only for 3 weeks.  I have had an Ultrasound, Cat Scan, and Hida Scan.  All are normal.  I have had two Rocephin shots and two rounds of oral anitbiotics.  Still hurting.  My doctor is now going to check me for H. Pylora Virus.  This may be what your sister has.  It is treated with a combination of two anitiobiotics and Pepto 4 times a day for 2 weeks.  This virus is associated with peptic ulcers. Thanks and hope she gets better.

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feathers2069, Community Member
6/18/09 7:17pm

OK. this is what has happen now. its been almost a year since this has been going on. she had Discomfort Under Right Rib Cage she has to hold her side and push in on it so she can get some reliefe. her chest was hurting and she went to Doctor 1- Gastrologist said it was her gall bladder it was only working 7% ok. they took it out. since then her side has hurt worst and server pain. She called them back and they said to go see her MD it could be something else. ok, doctor 2- MD- said shingles- over year still have pain nothing. shingles is something you dont play with but no its not that so that doctor said to go see a (Neurolgist doctor 3- said Costal nuroploy-b12 shots. the shots did nothing for her. ok they told her go see a doctor at EMORY crawford long pain clinic were they know there stuff.  YEA RIGHT. they told her and did some test and said nope need to go see someone else. Nurclear scan. doctor 5- went and had that done. guess what NOTHING> she has had from gall bladder to stomach to everthing everyone has names on here and nothing yet. she is going to see a second opion and start over next week. We have gotten a run around on all doctors on this. see cant sleep or work like she use to and is hurting so much the meds they give her dont even work and the patches for pain. Cry_She said when pressing on that side she can hear a pop and rolls in that area. what other kind of doctor is there for this or can someone direct me to a good doctor that will not push her on the side and just give her meds and not find out what it is.

Thank you for listening to me. If you know of anything please let me know.  I dont know what else to tell her except to start over . its not the head/back/stomach is there a such thing is cartledge at the end of the rib cage??? im just giving this a thought. Thanks for listening again.

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rain-dancer, Community Member
6/18/09 11:23pm

I have been through everything she went thru. Finally my Dr's (all of them ) were just shrugging. That is how I went from Alaska to the Mayo Clinic in Minn. I don't think I missed a specialist there except a cardiologist. I was there for 10 days. Poked, prodded, scoped, scanned and biopsied. That is how the determined the Celiac disease. All the normal tests given were neg. It was a combo of genetic and irregular (but not showing for sure) biopsy of my small intestine.  I think I had been going to Dr.s here for a couple of years. And believe it or not there is a incredible Gastro Dr. here. I assume because they thought she had shingles she had a rash, if it looked like shingles but wasn't I can't believe they didn't think Celiac. The rash is called Dermatitis herpetiformis (DH) and I have scars from it. The Dr.s may have done the standard tests for this but all mine where neg. If you can please see if she has had any of tests I mentioned above.

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feathers2069, Community Member
6/19/09 5:58pm

ok its not Celiac cause its not in the stomach area. I have that and I know you cant have wheat, rye, barley... hers is the rib cage and its at the end of the ribs like a cartlidge. no rash of shingles i work with meds and its not that and the only thing i can think of is maybe she fell and dont remember but she said she hasnt......she has had all test above what you said nothing ... my thing is what about a xray of the rib... she had ct but nothing.... we have looked on the internet and so many ppl have this and cant figure it out. i know next wednesday shes going back to a reg doctor to start over. this is mine boggling...... Undecided

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feathers2069, Community Member
7/ 2/09 2:48pm

ok back to square one the doctor sent her to a throrastic doctor. went in and gave her hell saying shes dont know what kinda of pain she has and he cant help her very very rude to her. I need to know what kind of lawyer or head doctor we go to with this stuff now. 12 doctors dont know anything and this one said she needs to go home and take 4 asprin and watch her stomach be eaten away after a few years... she said what about the pain im having in the rib cage. he said its all in your head and im not treating you or taking my time for crap like that.  oh my....... this is getting out ragious. who do i write to now. please help meCry

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feathers2069, Community Member
7/ 2/09 3:26pm
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I might have already posted this but I’m going to try one more time to explain and then someone help me out on this.  I’m trying to figure and help my sister out on her problem.  8 months ago she went fishing.  It was very hot and she had been sucking on a piece of Ice and took her shirt off and put it in the lake and put it back on her to cool off. Then after the fishing trip she went home.  She started seeing Pictures come alive for a few mins and didn’t know what was going on. ( I believe that was a Heat stroke)  we are ok on that. The person she was with never called 911 or anything. She started having this pain under the right side of her rib like burning all the time and she can press on it just to make it pain sometimes go away for a second or two. she has gone to so many doctors everyone of them tell her something different.

 

Doctor 1- Gastrologist- gall bladder. Did upper Throat and did bladder.  Had insertion of 1 in belly button no other cuts on her. And said the gallbladder was working only 7% so they took it out. Still the pain and the burning. Said go back to Doctor and your fixed.     (NOT YET))))))

 

Doctor 2- MD- said shingles- gave her pills and did CT scan.  All xrays everything that was under insurance.  still have pain didn’t do anything about it.  (NOT YET))))  said go to a NURO Doctor.

 

Doctor 3- Neurologist- said it could be costal neuropathy.  Gave her B12 shots  (NOT YET)))) nothing is helping it.

 

Doctor 4- Pain Clinic Doctor of Atlanta, Ga.  Went and  (NOT YET))))) said don’t know what it is and need to see someone else

 

Doctor 5- Nuclear Doctor – did that and test was all neg. said go to your regular doctorn  (NOT YET)))))))

 

Doctor 6-  MD said go to a thoracic doctor (NOT YET))))))))

 

Doctor 7- Thoracic doctor- (NOT YET)))))))))))))) This one was a waste of time and money….. Now waiting for regular doctor to tell her who to go to next.  The doctor Thoracic one  made fun of her ok back to square one the doctor sent her to a thoracic doctor. went in and gave her hell saying shes dont know what kind of pain she has  and he could give her pain he she wants it. Told her your wasted my time today for your lousy pain and he cant help her very rude to her. -. I need to know what kind of lawyer or head doctor we go to with this stuff now. 7 doctors don’t know anything and this one said she needs to go home and take 4 asprin and watch her stomach be eaten away after a few years... she said what about the pain im having in the rib cage. he said its all in your head and im not treating you or taking my time for crap like that.  oh my....... this is getting out crazy. who do i write to now. please help me

 I would like to see her feeling good one more time shes only 53 years old and use to work in the yard all the time. now she goes home and lies in the bed everyday.

Discomfort Under Right Rib Cage,side And Back

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Joe, Community Member
7/ 9/09 7:39am

Pray to Saint Joseph for healing. He will intercede for you before the Lord and HE WILL HELP YOU!...Have FAITH...After you are healed, give thanks to God.

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rsmra2000, Community Member
8/10/09 1:00am

hello, I hope this may help.  I have been having the same pains that your sister is having.  I have had it now for about 4 months.  to make a long story short, after many tests, stress, and doctors making me feel like I was making it up, I went to a pain managment dr and they did a whole body bone scan.  From this they found that my 7,8, and 9th ribs had separated from the cartledge that connects them to the sternum, and a 25%degenetive change in a disc in by back.  I do understand your frustration, and hope that this helps you.

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crsmith, Community Member
7/15/10 11:11am

what did they treat you with?

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Linda, Community Member
11/ 7/12 10:52pm

Please!! Go see a chiropractor. She could need her neck adjusted and her whole spine could be out of wack. But you better make sure you find a good one. Some DO's will do adjustments but you better ask ahead of time. Take some of her imaging tests along if they shown her spine.

 Quit letting Drs. use radiation on her for testing!! She's had enough!!!

 Incident with shirt and heat stroke probably not related to this issue at all.

 Maybe go on a natural food diet. Her liver could be crying out for help.Maybe she has food allergies. Maybe she has chostrocondritis.??Celiac disease??

I'm just trying to give you some ideas.

Hope you get your answer soon.

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hurting in nebraska, Community Member
10/ 7/13 1:28pm

I am having to same pain. I have gone through every test one could possibly go through. I have had ct scan, gallebladder ultra sound, eeg, colenoscapy, endoscope, x-ray, biopsyes from top and bottom intestines. Nothing, now the doctor told it was all in my head. I wish it was all in my head. I have upper right rib cage pain that comes an goes into my back and sometimes it burns. I went to see a gastraligests and he said it was my gallebladder. But i have no stones and the nuckular tests showed it was working fine. I also have chronic diarrhea with it. I take a blue pill that slows my intestines down to keep me from haveing diarrhea. It also helps with the pain. I still have pain but they also told me I have IBS. Well if it was IBS it would hurt everywhere not just upper right. I am at a loss to. I hope some of this helps. Let me know if someone gets an answer.

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christy Marth, Community Member
3/ 9/11 9:43pm

I feel for you, I have had the same thing for many years. In the beginning they scoped me from top and bottom but nothing, they thought it was my galbladder had that taken out and still pain. Now here i am many years later and the pain is now way worse and nobody can tell me what it is. Went to our joke of a hospital and they said I was over weight and that was causing the pain. Whatever, my pain is in the right side rib cage area it radiates around to my back and sometimes up to my shoulder and when I push on it, it is better but a minute later its back again. After this many years I am ready to give up, if you find a answer please let me know.

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Nen77, Community Member
10/16/12 4:23pm

Hi, I am not sure if you have yet found the cause for this but I am going through the EXACT same thing.  Doctors are quick to dismiss me because I have had so many tests done and nothing has come up positive..  I can hardly sleep as well and they will not give me anything for the pain.  They said to take advil which isnt do much to help... I am so exhausted ALL the time.. my energy is slim to none.  I am depressed because I can't function.... I hope someone gets some answers soon!  I wish I knew how to get through to these doctors to give us the right tests and make them realize how painful it is!  Continuously praying for the answers!

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PainsMe2, Community Member
8/18/09 11:03am

I am having the same pain so maybe what I have been through will be of some help to you.  I ended up in an emergency room thinking I was having gallbladder attacks.....Please please please go see you gynecologist if you don't have one get one.  I thought ....pain has to be gall bladder and after a year in a half all test still negative...I finally went to Gyno.  Had enlarged uterus the size of a 4 month preg. And Fibroids all over the place.  Now that only helped with some of the back pain a lot of the nausea and almost all of the fluid retention.  I am still recovering from the hysterectomy and doing well.  Now the other pain.... rib and back.  I did take a bad fall out of my shower but told no that is not it....I think it is since I hurt my rib cage but then what do I know......Get an MRI of you mid back.  I have a disk bluing into spinal cord area.  And Yes neurosurgeon is saying anyone can have that but in this case that anyone is me and it hurts daily my back my ribs my chest wall.  I am having trouble just doing everyday house work.  I am on medication called gabapentin and that seems to be helping with the pain. It's for nerve pain.   It will take time to figure out but I am in the same boat.  At least ask your doctor to send you for the thoracic Mri and get started on the gabapentin.  And see the gyno.  I am starting to get my life back.  I did not realize even how bad I was until after the hysterectomy.  I am also concerned about shingles because I have already had it as a teenager and I to had heat exhaustion this summer.  Another thing and I know this is a lot but gabapentin is also used for seizures and if your sister is having problems because of that this drug may help as well.  I am referring to the pictures moving or what ever.  Sorry to take up so much space.  I am very fortunate to have found a doctor that listened to me.   He did say lady I never heard of so many different kinds of pain syndromes going on at once but he didn't kick me out of the office he tried to help with each one and so I am slowly working my way out of the pain.  I wish you luck...and let me know how you progress.  Sincerely, PainsMe2

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feathers2069, Community Member
8/18/09 6:04pm

Ok. Thanks for everyones reply... We took my sister to another Pain Management after going through her insurance and telling them all what we went through.  They said go get a 2nd opinion and we did.  Guess what they said.  I could not believe the pain you been going through.  This pain is caused by the Surgery of the Gall Bladder and they damaged the Nerves. They are going to do a Nerve block tomorrow. Ill let you guys know what comes out of it. God bless ... feathers2069.

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Sunshine32, Community Member
10/30/09 9:41am

Going through the same thing, thing, started after tubal in Nov 08, had ultrasounds, upper GI, colonoscopy, HIDA scan, and gallbladder out June 09, still pain when I bend, or sit for even a little.  I hope the nerve block helped for your sister, please let us know how shes doing.

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feathers2069, Community Member
11/28/09 6:32pm

Ok she went to them and nothing. now she was going to a acuputer doctor and been going to him now for 3 weeks and guess what. he through up his hands and said i dont know.  O MY   ... what are we going to do now out of 9 doctors no one knows anything. who do we go to now. she is so depressed she dont even care of living almost. this is getting to much for us.... any ideas??????????????????? god bless everyone

lynn

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use1015, Community Member
11/30/09 11:16am

I am so sorry for your sisters suffering I too watched my sister suffur until it cost her. Emory is not any place special to go. They do not live up to the reputation that thye once have. They cost my sister her live and I also went there to neurology and they were just as lost. At least Mayo had a thought. Anyways back to your sisters pain. I don't know if the nerve block helped her. But I wanted to give some thought for diagnosis. I too have pain similar to her the only difference is that mine comes and goes. I have had upper GI, Colonoscopy, HIDA, CT I have one thought though. I do ultrasounds for a living and when I scan this area the things that are located here are the kidney and gallbladder they are almost side by side the only difference is that the kidney pain rotates to the back and the front and can go lower. This is usually caused by stones. When I have had this pain I have had my urine tested and they say it is fine but I have a history of having a kidney stone that could not pass. This pain is unbearable but unless it causes infection you will not get any other symptoms except pain. I am almost sure that mine is a reoccurance I spoke to a urinologist who gave me some pills and they helped. Also on my Ct the radiologist read it as normal and the technichian had put possible stone, so the radiologist missed this. Also, X-ray with contrast is the best diagnosis for kidney stone. Also if she is having any other symptoms there could be other possible causes. Such as pancreatitis, adrenal gland, extra rib I would look at going to a urologist as rule out kidney stone and then go from there. When my sister was sick I sat there and told her doctorst that I thought that she had pancreatitis and they did not listen and then when she had her autopsy it confirmed what I had suscpected all alone. All of her tests and the 20+ doctors that seen her the whole 6+ months at emory that she spent in  hospital had missed this. Don't give up go to a different dr every day if you have too and don't settle for I don't know and don't let you sister give up there will be someone out there who cares if she has an answer. my email is display name + yahoo if you would like more information or support. Best wishes

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Angel R., Community Member
12/16/09 9:34pm

Just wondering if anyone has looked into hydronephrosis? It would help explain the pain & crunching there (if there are stones in the kidneys) ~ think kidneys ~ does she also have 'unexplained incontinence'?

 

THE PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THESE DOCTORS IS 'ALL OF THESE DOCTORS'...There are other symptoms tied to this and NO ONE is looking at the BIG PICTURE......You MUST look at EVERYTHING that is WRONG with you & go from there. Does that make sense?

 

And the celiac suggestions couldn't hurt either ~ really ~ I just found out that I have everything I just mentioned to you & it's daunting, but please see someone for that & see if it helps ~ and please know that you are in my prayers!!!

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MiaSavage, Community Member
12/18/09 8:49pm

I hope this doesn't just further muddy already muddy waters!!!  Okay.  Did you know that when you're sent for an MRI of your SPINE-- there has to be a separate ORDER and PROCEDURE for EACH part of your Spine.  You may have been sent for ONE MRI-- in which nothing was found!  Okay-- what part of your spine was that?  What about the rest?  Are they gonna LOOK at it?  Some of it?

 

I had Pain in my mid-back and it radiated around to under my ribcage.  I was only 35 (10 years ago).  I had to be EXTREMELY CAREFUL BREATHING when the Pain near my ribcage was bad.  Due to the BACK PAIN, I couldn't carry ANYTHING in front of me.  Couldn't stand UP straight.  I couldn't go places where they used folding chairs (my youngest child's school concerts).  XRAYS were totally WORTHLESS!!!  SAW NOTHING.

 

I was referred to a "Physiatrist" (M.D. with extra training in pain treatment & rehab).  He IMMEDIATELY medicated me, and sent me for an MRI of my THORACIC SPINE (mid-back).  I had FOUR completely blown out discs-- which explained the pain that I had.  I WAS LUCKY about the Doctor that I had!  Disc problems in the Thoracic Spine are rare.  They represent 1% of Spinal issues-- because they are "splinted" by the ribcage!

 

Don't know it it helps-- but there it is!!!  Hope things get better!!!

Mia

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Terri, Community Member
12/31/09 8:47pm

Hi There

Hope you can read this after all this time.  I too have had a pain under my right rib cage that goes up the front and also to the back at times.  I have had this for over 3 years and it increasingly got worse this year in 2009.  I have had CT scans on gallbladder and internal organs a few times and test on gallbladder.  Gallbladder actually is over working.  But did show each time that I have a fatty liver.  From weight gain I think.  I'm not  a big drinker- ocasional.

 

The pain can get so bad I can not sleep on my right  side or sit down long as the pressure is too much.  I have many sleepless nites.

 

I have gained a lot of weight in the last 3 years (at 50 and menopausal).  In the last few months I have seen a chiropractor who also is a nutritionalist.  I have an excellent massage therapist also.  Both directed me to the pain as coming from my liver.  My chiropractor thru testing and ?'s that my PH levels from stomach are too low to activate my liver.  According to him you have to have at least a 4 level PH from the stomache to the liver to be activated and to do its job correctly.  I have looked this info up on the internet and sure enough that is the case.  My digestive system is a mess.  If your liver is not working right it will not even eclimulate any nutritates or vitamins you take.  You have to get the PH level up.  He put me on enzymes and such for my liver and sure enough within a week my pain subsided and than went away. 

 

I am currently working on getting back on a diet and taking the item prescribed by him (all natural) to get my liver working properly to eliminate the pain and I should start to lose weight also.  It will not happen over night.

 

I truly hope this helps others.  My doctor had no idea and he found me no relief.

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celticfan, Community Member
1/28/10 12:28pm

Try the "Liver Doctor" site. There is lots of information about helping a fatty liver. Including changing your diet! You may need 1 or 2 of the suggested supplements to really help clean your liver. I bought the book used online for like $6 and read it. Lots of great information about the liver functions and gall bladder and symptoms.

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Binky1, Community Member
11/21/11 4:50pm

Do you know what the enzymes are called ?  I have lost 71 lbs since Jan. and all of a sudden my stoamch and digestive system are in a mess. I do not have a gall bladder. I have alot of cramping in my upper side like a gall bladdr attack. Especially when I am sitting down. It is not always, just occasional. I am wondering with losing this weight if I need to be taking something of that nature to help out my ssystem.

 

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NoMoreSurgery, Community Member
1/ 7/10 11:44pm

Hi -

 

There has been some good things suggested to check out in this thread, but I will add another possibility.

I too have suffered from side/rib pain (both sides though) & nobody could figure it out either. At the end of October I had a laparoscopy surgery (where they go in and look around) for what I thought was an unrelated issue. Turns out I had severe adhesions due to endometriosis and my organs were basically "glued" together, and the adhesions were pulling on things. I realize that at your sisters age she probably doesn't have endometriosis, but it IS possible she has adhesions from her gallbladder surgery. Adhesions can form from scar tissue after having surgery, and can cause alot of pain.

 

I know how frustrating it can be with all of the Doctors, I have had my fill of that too!

 

Just something you may want to consider & good luck to you :)

 

 

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Tunie, Community Member
1/11/10 11:23am

I can relate to your sister. I have had pain under my right ribs through to my back and down my left leg for five years. My gallbladder was taken out and the pain just got worse. I have been in alternative healthcare for 25 years and practicing homeopathy for 10. I even bit the bullet and went to mainstream doctors. I was diagnosed with the following:1. Hormonal imbalance (you can get a kit on line and test this yourself. Make sure you include the adrenals and thyroid- about $300) 2. Heavy metal toxcicity - again you can get a kit on line for about $75 and test this yourself. Metals settle everywhere in the body 3. Fibromyalgia- Garbage can diagnosis for toxic body. The tissues are inflamed. Duh! Why???  4. Dysautonomia- it affects the spine.  This actually may fit for me. I hurt my back weightlifting. 5. Depression - you think! I've been in pain for five years, I'm frustrated! No health insurance and nobody gives a crap but me.  It's great that you are trying to help your sister. She might try acupuncture. The sleep is due to an imbalance in the energy of the liver and sometimes the heart. See if you have an Iridologist in your area. Iridology is the study of the iris of the eye. It shows all imbalance in the body just by looking into the eye. Just the stress of not knowing and the anxiety of what it "might be" can cause the insomnia. After years of this type of pain,She will become her illness. Don't know how old your sister is and don't know what her environment is like. Has she ever had a root canal? I can go on and on with this one. Homeopathic remedies could help her as well. Send me her dob and I might be able to help you select one based on what is going on with her.  No charge.   

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feathers2069, Community Member
1/11/10 6:02pm

Thanks for all the help. well she went to her doctor for the spine and guess what NOPE its not that he said ... he said they need to do a blockage around her rib its a nerve damage.  wow i have heard so much now. but then he said if the nerve blockage dont do anything ... he dont know what to do. boy were getting to 15 doctors and no one of them knows whats going on. they pratice for all of this and none of them are helping. . she also went to the pharmany and got a presciption refill. shes taking some meds thats next to morphine to help and the pharmacy gave her 75 mg.  in stead of 25 mg. thats another thing now. shes been on it for 18 days. what is wrong with ppl..a drug store oh my. its a patch and now she has to come down off that back to 25 mg. she is really tried of this going on. so depressed now andwants to give up. im trying to keep her busy as much as possible. she even is tried of her job now. she goes home and sleep and then gets up and goes to work. oh  she has to take ambine now just to help her sleep.  dob is feb 1955. ok

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feathers2069, Community Member
3/25/10 8:22pm

dob is  feb 14- 1955

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Annavp, Community Member
9/ 3/12 6:37pm

Hello, if you've been in pain for such a long time... and in this business... where would we find a solution?

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celticfan, Community Member
1/28/10 12:21pm

I have experience the same type of pain even after removal of my gall bladder. I have been diagnosed with Gilbert's syndrome which is basically like saying I have a sluggish liver. I have researched this type of right side lower rib cage pain that goes around to my back for a while now. I came across a site called "The Liver Diet". Check it out. Read what the site has for info and see what is recommended. It's like cleansing your liver by an 8 week diet. I am going to try this since nothing else has worked. Apparently this pain is or could be caused by my liver not functioning properly. Maybe suggesting to the doc to take some liver function tests. The liver can affect your entire bodies state of health especially if you aren't eating properly. And the good news is you can lose some weight in the process of this cleansing. Try the website "the liver doctor" by Dr. Sandra Cabot. You may be surprised what could be causing this pain.

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Annlfc, Community Member
2/ 7/10 9:13pm

sik and tired ov heari about chronic pian no meds work and you are left out in the cold.At the end ov the bluddy day.You know what tomoz brings PAIN

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feathers2069, Community Member
2/20/10 8:52pm

 

gall bladder  excruitating pain around my rib cage-  O MY... I have seen my sister now and i know whats going on I think only some of it. I dont know what 16 doctors shes been to, why have they not checked more clearly her ribs. CT, Chest XRay, Thorsictic doc. you name it shes done it. When she sits up it hurts more cause the rib cage is sitting more downward and the lower part is pushing up. You can push on her ribs from the back and feel them move forward. Why on earth has any doctor not checks the rib cage out. cartlage to me is decreasing.  What kind of doctor can we see to find out about this. she had her gall bladder out and ever since then i belived they cut something or damaged something. That doctor will not see her. he said he did his part and thats it.  sorry if i missed spelled or dont understand what im saying. i am very upset with this to see her hurt.

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Evelyn Plyler, Community Member
3/12/10 10:19am

NO t an answer but more like a question. I have the same problems and they are getting worse as I go. They thought my back ache was due to high stress. NO! Then it spread all over. I had an MRI on my lower back. It turned out to be Arthritis. WHo knows how much is on my upper back. I can't use my hands for long periods of time. WHo knows what it is. For the past two days I have the worst pain in my ribs. ANyone? evelyn_m_plyler@hotmail.com

 

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feathers2069, Community Member
3/12/10 5:22pm

she went to a trusictic doctor and they did some test this week. well know more next week i hope. he thinks the rib is seprating from the cartlege.

 

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chicita319, Community Member
7/22/10 1:37pm

I had this pain several years after my gall blader was removed. So far it has been diagnosed as atrophy of the muscles connecting to the hip which are in this area. My chiropractor has studied muscle and soft tissue extensively. I don't know if a regular chiropractor would be able to help you. Ask for Active Release Therapy or soft tissue work. None of this shows up on x-ray. My orthopedic surgeon confirmed the diagnosis. 

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DSB, Community Member
10/27/10 5:25pm

I'm going through the same thing. Just had CAT Scan of abdomen. Nothing! I have 4 bulging disks in my lower back from a car wreck. Been doing some research online and bulging disks can cause pain on right side of abdomen as well as the obvious back pain. So maybe she should get an MRI of her back.

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greg, Community Member
12/27/10 12:48am

hello, im 25 year old male and am also having the same bullshit as everyone else here. THis shit is really starting to fuckin irritate me, and iv had a lot of tests done. Everything was normal except i had a slightly elevated liver enzyme count. My only thought that it could be related to that. i used to drink a little but nothing consistent. I also have been on and off a lot of prescription drugs since abot 16. The more and more i read into this the more i see this is a quite common problem. I guess im not afraid something bad is going to happen because most people arent dying from this and have had it for a long time, but it is very irritating and starts to become a mental obsession due to the pain. I guess im just typing  this to make myself feel better and it is a slight relief to know that this is a quite common problem, but i am sorry for any1 that is going through this. Nobody deserves stuff like this without at least having an answer to whats causing it. I have gottn to the point where i dont care if it is liver disease or cancer etc. I just want to know what it is.

 

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keith, Community Member
3/27/14 8:28am

Finally got an answer after 10 yrs of suffering.  Look up fatty liver disease. 

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sue, Community Member
1/ 2/11 5:51pm

I was told by my m.d /that its slipped disc syndrome plus d.j.diease right rib bone to mid of back something to do with loss of cartilege/chondrtieus

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gerri nyland, Community Member
1/ 5/11 12:58pm

i am trying to find the answer!!!

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robert gardner, Community Member
1/13/11 11:18am

i have the same problem. pain under my right rib cage down toward where it meets my abdomin. pain goes from about 2inches to the right of my sternum around to my side, almost at times unbearable. ive been to multiple doctors, 2 of which cant find anything, 1 said my gall bladder(which was removed and still have pain) and the last one said to lose 10lbs. one other simpton associated with the pain i get spots on the right side of my tongue when ever i have a serious bout with pain. still looking for answers.

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Stevew, Community Member
12/10/11 2:20am

Hi,

I have the same problem and have now for only 3 weeks and no one can tell me what it is.

pain more some times and less at others.

Like a siatic down my right back leg to kneee but it is so hard to concentrate.

Since it began have also had a dry mouth and a bit lite headed.

 

Any help would be appreciated

 

Steve

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feathers2069, Community Member
1/13/11 2:25pm

i even tried to write dr phil, dr oz or even the doctors on tv and have not heard anything. my sister now is on 45ml morphine

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goldfish, Community Member
1/20/11 11:23am

Hello, I feel for your sister. I have been dealing with roughly the same thing for close to two years now. I have had blood work done , been to chiropractor , had my liver, kidneys, and gallbladder looked at with a ultrasound. They did a MRI of my back. The only thing that they tell me is that I have some degeneration in my spine. Well, I know that I have some back trouble but this is so different. It is awful and it makes you think something must be bad wrong and the Drs. just don't get it. My Dr. even suggested that it was in my head. I am not crazy. I am an educated unemployed person that has basicly spent money that I do not have to try and get answers. The Dr. said my liver is fine according to the blood work. In the back of my mind I am wondering if a root canal that I had done just 3 weeks before this started has something to do with it. The Dr. says no, but something has to have caused this. I am debating strongly of trying to find a dentist who will pull that tooth out. If I knew that this would fix me I would. This thing is really terrible.

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Brandy McClaugherty, Community Member
3/ 7/11 8:51pm

Go see a Gastroenterologist. It sounds as though it may be your liver. Your PAncreas can also cause pain in that area. Trust me, I have Chronic/Acute Pancreatitis and have had terrible pain there.

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ruth, Community Member
6/ 3/11 7:38pm

Hello--I wonder if it could be post herepetic nerve problems which is a chronic pain condition following an attack by the chickenpox virus which attacks the nerve roots--since she had  a case of the shingles. My neighbor had the shingles and three years later she had this terrible pain she was finally treated for shingles again with no skin rash outbreak she immediately began to improve--look at the info re PHN on the various herpes/shingles sites--also there is some thought that a back injury can flare up the chicken pox virus that lies dormant in the spinal column--when I had shingles I had a radiating deep pain under my right rib cage which gradually improved as i took the antiviral oral medication and Lyrica for deep nerve root pain--Good luck to everyone--maybe a Nurse Practitioner would be more attentative and helpful. By the way if over 60, please take the preventative Shingles Vaccine-

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dynamicwomen2000, Community Member
12/14/11 8:38am

I have severe chest pain and have been at the emergency twice and finally I was diagnosed with Costochondritis.  Have her look into this.  Many doctors are oblivious to this diagnosis.  I hope it helps.

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Juna, Community Member
4/ 2/12 6:53am

Here is a lowdown on all the problems Ive read so far because Ive had them all.

Im a 37 year old female, relative good health..out of the blue one day..middle chest pain going down arm..panic attacks at same time. Rushed to ER..diagnosis was I was too stressed, gave me pills and sent me home. Two days later same thing, back to ER, blood tests, heart monitor, heart tests..all negative sent home with refereal to cardiologist. In meantime my own doctor started me on Tecta (proton pump inhibitor) with a suspicion that i had GERD (gastroentestinal reflux desease ).

By this time i had dropped 35 pounds..no appetite and was in a depression kind of mood but i knew it wasnt. Stomach, lower stomach, ribs and back all felt really funny..doctor finaly said its Costocondrotis (inflammation of the rib cartilege) along with GERD. Did a upper GI tract test, confirmed the GERD and that made me feel 95% better...but the rib pain remained and still to this day when i have my periods, the pain / uncomfiness is still there over my right ribs. From other tests later on because of rib pain, had complete upper and lower stomach ultrasound done all was negative except and a mangioma detected on liver (benign they said)

Best possible ideas I can give...  1 - get and upper GI test done to rule out reflux desease 2- get a refereal to a bone specialist / thoracic doctor for a Costocondritis diagnosis 3- if all these fail to turn up anything, go see a chiropractor, a rib displacement it seems is as common as a cold and will cause much problems when all else is negative. if you have any other question my email is juna3391 @yahoo.ca

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Hazel, Community Member
1/ 4/12 12:50pm

I too have this pain.  For me, I have one atrophic kidney and the other is working on its behalf but after a hinter scan it showed it was emptying slowly, so I think for me my pain is either coming from urine accumulating either in the ureter or in the kidney, or, my second thought is its coming from my gallbladder which has tiny stones and polyps in, and that is due to come out.  My general surgeon told me that the pain at the bottom of my right ribs is probably the gallbladder, and that it can radiate to other places such as the small of the back, and shoulder blades.  I see my urologist for a second opinion in a couple of weeks.    The tests I have had for these problems have comprised of an abdominal ultrasound, TAC and blood tests.  Hope this will help someone.

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feathers2069, Community Member
1/ 4/12 6:46pm

my sister is now on 75% morphine and 25% in tab. nothing yet from any doctor. Im going to a new doctor and ask him if maybe they can start over on her. from 45 to 75 om morphine is not good. something is going on and it seems to me that no doctor whats to find out what it is. ummmm what are doctors used for.

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Hazel, Community Member
1/ 4/12 7:31pm

Hi, I just read one of your previous posts and saw that you had spoken to the surgeon who took out your sisters gallbladder, can you ask him for all the reports from that operation, she is entitled to these, it may say something that they havent told her.  Did they check her liver? she could have stones forming in there?  Just another thought, why not buy some urine analysis testing strips, they show the bodies chemical reaction to certain things such as infection, bilirubin (gallbladder) proteins etc., I use them all the time to try and keep a track on whats happening with my situation, might just help shed a bit of light on whats happening, worth a try.

 

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deb, Community Member
1/ 9/12 5:17pm

Hi. Was reading all of this. I have been having right back pain under my scapula that goes to my right ribs for a year now. I think I am obsessed also about my pain. Have been to e.r., chiropractors, and dr.s. No answers. It hurts when I sit and lean on that side. I can push on my rib(s) and feel a thud sound and helps aleviate the pain some. It is really weird, cuz I woke up one morning with this pain in my side. My doctor says that it is arthritis. The pain hurts from under my right scapula down to my right ribs. I am scared. I am 55 yrs. old. I wonder if it is my lung. I have been having breathing issues also. My b-day is 2-16-56. I think I am worrying myself sick-literally. I have pretty much given up.

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deb, Community Member
1/ 9/12 6:12pm

I am a 55 yr. old female with problems with my right ribs and pain under right scapula in my back. Also, pain in the middle between my shoulder blades. I have been to the e.r., doctors and chiropractors to no avail. I think that I too am obsessed about this. I think about it every a.m. when I wake up. I just don't know what to do. I think that i must of given up. Have had this for over a year. I always wonder if it is lung cancer. My worst fear.

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feathers2069, Community Member
1/ 9/12 7:22pm

Undecided I went to a new doctor the other day for my health reason and told him about my sister he said the only thing is to be 75% on morphine from a pain clinic she would have to go to mayo clinic they do research. I said why is it you pratice to be a doctor and dont know answers. I guess they wait until there dead to get results.  I feel for everyone that can not find a answer. the other day she was a sleep and her foot feel asleep and in stand of turning in like a crap in the foot it turn the other way and it poped and took her to the hospital and said she pulled tendons in her foot. but she was a sleep when it happen now its black and blue and still hurting. seems like no one wants to help others out. lord help us all.

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deb, Community Member
1/10/12 9:56pm

How can you afford all of these doctors?  They are so expensive!!!  I wish you all the luck for your sister.  I don't know if this could help but, a few years ago, my daughter went in to the hospital for her gall bladder to be removed.  Well, they "nicked" her liver when they took out her gall bladder.  She was told that her gall bladder was severely infected and accidentally spilled some of the infected contents into her body.  She was VERY sick after that and this was 4 years ago. She still has many days of the year where she isn't feeling well.  She is not as healthy as she used to be.  Alot of days, she just lays on the couch.  I wish she would have sued that hospital and the doctor.  She has since move to another state but I sure do worry about her.

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jcas, Community Member
1/18/12 4:04pm

Hi, sorry to hear of the pain. I am not sure it is the same thing but i suffered pain under the right rib cage for 4 years now. Stabbing and dullache, and side pain and nausea and weakness, affecting my breathing and stopped my legs working at one point!  Had tests (MRI, Tube down throat, blood, urine, ultrasound, stool test) nothing was found. It got worse during menstruation and ovulation,though i didn't notice that at first, just stabbing and dull ache al lthe time that got worse. It got severe, where it affected my diaphragm and my breathing, pain on side and flank and electric type shocks through my arm, rigid abdomen and peritonitis AND ruptured appendix like symptoms - for months on end - horrific. I started to take the pill when i noticed the connection of it getting worse with ovulation and my pain has subsided greatly presently. It may be two different things, made worse by ovulation - (hurt when full bladder as well). so now i am due for a gynae exam.. but the pain has lessened greatly. i also got my appetite back, nausea not noticeable and though it hasn't resolved the issue, not suffering so much pain is a blessed relief.. Symptom or cause, i don't know.. but it might be worth a shot trying to stop menstruation etc.

 

Jac

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jcas, Community Member
4/16/12 12:13am

Hi - Update

 

ultrasound of ovaries (external and internal) did not find anything, but nurse commneted on my bladder being full wheni had just emptied it.( urinary retention?) -I think this may be caused due to taking the pill Cerazette for 8 months running. currently suffering r side last rib pain, Pain in kidney area and 'stomach' as well as pain beneath last right rib , since stopping the pill.  Soluble migraine tabs working quite well for pain below rib cage, but now have pain behind my eyes.. (had to give up work in Feb 2012 after 4-5 years of this pain as pain is difficult and symptoms got worse/better/ tiring! ).

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united93x, Community Member
2/21/12 12:37am

this could be gas build up...or Gerd i have heard of all that being the cause of pain under ribs...i have Gerd and the syptoms under my ribs the pain is sometimes unbareable..but it comes and goes..i hope this is helpful ask the doctor the next one you see to run tests for Gerd and see if she has gas build up or something like an ulcer..

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feathers2069, Community Member
2/21/12 6:11pm

Sister was ask to go to Mayo clinic so were working on that. we found out she may have  slipping rib syndrome, costochondritis and have other articles on it but no doctors work on that .. in atlanta for sure. 

 

lcochran1826@bellsouth.net

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feathers2069, Community Member
2/21/12 6:14pm

Sister was ask to go to Mayo clinic so were working on that. we found out she may have  slipping rib syndrome, costochondritis and have other articles on it but no doctors work on that .. in atlanta for sure. 

 

lcochran1826@bellsouth.net

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbS_RZteeac&context=C32c933cADOEgsToPDskLDwSWoAMPw7o4v2GNcHOMn

can anyone translate this to english?

 

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Yary, Community Member
2/24/12 4:23pm

I cannot believe she has been going through that for this long!!!

I've had the same pain for a about 6 months now and i thought it had to do with my scoliosis problem. I had a surgery at age 15 to correct scoliosis, they attached a rod on my spine from keeping it from bending and it was a success. Im now 31 and 3 kids later I feel like crap. For years my back would only hurt during bad weather but now as i get older summers feel like winters. Maybe i have been putting a lot of stress on my back.

 

I know this pain has nothing to do with my spine though, i cant touch that area without jumping up. I had to stop working out because of the pain, cant even bend down or sit for longer periods of time (im an accountant, what to do?). Had to quit my night time job (bartender) because i couldnt be standing for a long time either. I had a miscarrage last week and I dont know if I should blame the stupid pain. I will be going to the chiropractor tomorrow for the first time in years, hopefully he has some answers, by all the reviews here seems that Drs are good for nothing.

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Seeker, Community Member
3/17/12 9:39pm

feather... i am so sorry what your poor sister has been going thru- and for so long!  i found your thread in searching for answers to my own right side under-rib discomfort and read straight through to the end.

you are a saint to have given so much of yourself in continually seeking answers to ease your sister's suffering, i am sending up prayers to the Creator to bless you and your sister with the knowlege you seek and a real sense of His closeness and guidance as He journeys with you both through such a dark and impossible trial of suffering!

hugs and blessings, and i wish i could offer more than my sympathy but please know it is genuine. i hope you will continue to post your updates, as it is a story needing to be told. i will check back from time to time and you will remain in my prayers

please dont give up, your efforts to help are not in vain.

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christi, Community Member
4/ 2/12 9:02pm

Try looking at the possibility of "slipping rib syndrome". It's excruciatingly painful when its out of place usually being the floating ribs doing it

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feathers2069, Community Member
4/ 3/12 8:25pm

Just want to let everyone know were going to the mayo and please send prayers. Ill be back towards the end of the month and please send another messeage so i may get it around the 20th of april. I want to thank everyone that has been here for me and my sister. I pray to god that everything will be ok. We will get an answer and god above will make sure we will take care of it all. I will write a book on this after all of this and you all will be in it. om thank you with all of my heart and keep the prayers coming.

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feathers2069, Community Member
4/16/12 3:33pm

have been going to the doctor all this time and went into the mayo clinic 1 hour and they told us the problem. i will keep everyone up to date once we get evertyihg were going to talk to a thoraictic doctor tomorrow. keep us in your prayers. love every one and god bless.

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jcas, Community Member
4/17/12 3:24pm

Hi Feathers.

  

Fitz Hugh Curtis causes perihepatitis (inflammation of liver capsule?If i have understood this right.. + other symptoms...).  

If what i have read and understood is correct, can mimic Cholecystitis (inflamed gallbladder)... & affect abdomen with other symptoms. Not sure if that would make the liver react badly to sugary/fatty foods though.  

 

The diagnosis for this is laparoscopy. the remedy antibiotics and pain meds.. not sure about complications.

  

I am due for laparoscopy and gastro specialist in May (if i last that long!).. will let you know if i find out anything else..

 

Apologies if you think this is not the probl.

 

Please note i have suffered pain under right rib cage (last one) showing signs of gallbladder inflammation but no stones, and i did feel a pull of a string like thing in the early years when this happened to get worse.. i thought it was my appendix or some organ had 'stuck to another'.. however Fitz Hugh curtis has listed 'violin string' as a symptom.. i am still pending a gastro specialist appt.!!  

JCas

 

 

 

 

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feathers2069, Community Member
4/18/12 8:17am

yahoo. we have got an answer and i cant wait until this is done. were at the mayo clinic and they looked back over the scan disk of my sister and all the other doctors missed it. i recomend the mayo to everyone they are the nices people in the world and they found out within 1 hr what it is. he made her get up and do some thing for him and she had to point out the place where it was hurting he said why has not anyone ever noticed this. he said this problem a lot of people no doctor can help them they have not done studies on this. but if you look up on you tube its called slippling rib syndrom and they are going to take a piece of cartleage out. xrays dont detect cartledge but it has seperated. have to run going to mayo again to do paper work. will write later. i am going to write a book on all of this for sure. 

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feathers2069, Community Member
4/21/12 7:32pm

the mayo clinic was really stud cause we new the answer and the doctors in atlanta did not do anything about it or figure it out. it was a piece of the cartelge that was seperating from the bone. he said that he is starting to get paitients because no one know what to do any of the doctors. but i am so happy. i recommend mayo. alot of people have this and no doctor can exsplain what it is but they mayo...if i can help write me god bless everyone. lcochran1826@bellsouth.net

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jcas, Community Member
4/22/12 11:53am

Hi All - update April 22 2012 - UK pending laparoscopy 11 may 2012

 

attended A&E yesterday - to cut a long story short, it appears i  have a lump/hard mass in my transverse colon (just to the right of the bellybutton and up a bit) the doc touched that area and i yelped out in pain. (i had been thinking kidneys/bladder etc - but my colon is higher than i had thought!).. if they had told me back in Feb that they thought it was a tumour, i would have perhaps gone private.. they didn't tell me.. i have 19 days to wait.... it may of course 'be nothing' or it may be endometriosis' but it feels like  a hard lump and i have symptoms attributable to something else..

 

Cause or symptom - not yet sure..

 

If you are suffering presently and not getting answers, where possible pls do take out private medical insurance and get your colon checked  (my doc had said i had IBS adn that was still what was being suggsted by a new doc who hadn't seen my records only 2 weeks ago! ).

 

It has taken a good 3 years to get to a laparoscopy being scheduled to check my colon.(endoscopy wans't successful as i woke up) the lower MRI scan (about a year ago) doesn't appear to have picked up cell changes - not that i have seen it or been informed but am assuming that they would have told me otherwise! i have been in a great deal of pain for the last 3 years - getting worse to the point of not being able to eat without suffering incredible pain beyond normal 'outpatient' suffering'.. could only get to the GPs when i felt well. i had worked for as long as i could wit the pain, but it has gotten worse and worse.

 i have been suffering for 4 to 5 years from the initial onset of stabbing stinging pains under last right rib right side rib cage.

 

Will let you know God willing after 11th May - unless they change the date or keep me 'in'  ... it is important to keep  a sense of humour during lifes challenges.. however i now want a new one of those too!!! Kiss

 

Jcas..

 

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JeffryB, Community Member
6/30/12 7:10pm

Hi. Don't be offended by this question but is your sister overweight? As I myself am overweight and I have a pain under my bottom ribs, especialy when i sit forward or lean over.
I thought it was something serious but in fact, it's just my rib cage digging into the inside of my waist. As the stomach will protrude in overweight people, but the ribcage stay the same size, things inside will inevitably get squished inside and it can sometimes cause pain.
I don't want to take anything away from these other diagnosis but if that's at least a possibility, I would look into that simple thing first, before getting worried over more serious conditions.
It could be one more thing to tick off your list at least. Hope you get to the bottom of it soon!

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feathers2069, Community Member
7/ 1/12 8:05pm

If you remember we took my sister to Mayo clinic and they found it was called slipping rib sydrome and they took a piece of her cartledge out. she was on 99 percent of morphine and she has had no pain in that area since and down to 45 percent of the morphine. god loves us all and helps us in many way. i just pay that she can come off of the morphine in a easy way. to answer the last question no shes not big at all maybe 110 pounds 57 years old. very good health just this happen.

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pette, Community Member
7/25/12 1:04pm

have been having this pain all over for 2yrs plus........ under my right side rib cage,it feels hard discomfort. when ever i press it i can feel it moving and hard. av done several test hidda,scan,endoscopy and all kind of blood work and everything came back normal.no appetite,chest pain,shoulder and neck pain that doesnt go away.lost weight and musscle tone,tiredness,waist pain, dizziness,nausea, depression, dark eye circle and change on my skin tone with black spot all over my back.cant even sleep i av discomfort sitting straight or picking something on the floor. i dont knw what else to do,any help?

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feathers2069, Community Member
7/25/12 9:47pm

please look up  rib slipping sysdrome.    go see the mayo clinic they fine everything  we have been through this before read above.

 

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pette, Community Member
7/27/12 3:36pm

thanks for the mail, would like to know how far you have gone is there is any progress with mayo pls let me know asap.

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feathers2069, Community Member
7/27/12 8:12pm

We live in NE Ga and we went to Jacksonville Fla cause there is only 2 or 3 of them and I want to tell you they are the best place i have ever seen and what they did for my sister. O my Lord. thank God for them. I will recommend until then until I die. they are the best. my mom has been having problems with her back and if these shots are not going to work in the next 3 months she going to make appointment down there.  My sister now is only on 45% of morphine and has not had a pain since they took a piece of her cartlege out. when we were down there they found it and the 2 specialist looked over it and never found anything.

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pette, Community Member
7/29/12 9:08pm

thanks and which of the location did you vist? and do i make appt to see their gi or how do i go about it,

Thanks

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feathers2069, Community Member
7/31/12 6:25pm

we had 2 ways of doing this.  1- we ask the doctor for a referal but you dont have to have one.  2-we called down at the mayo clinic and told them the problem and they gave us a doctor and we set it up that way.

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Dee, Community Member
3/ 5/13 7:54am
I believe all of these issues are caused by Liver Flukes. If you would like to test this theory, do a coffee enema and check out what comes out. Im from CA and haven't traveled to any foreign country. Been to endless Dr.'s and the SAD thing is, they refuse to deal with this even if you have proof. I believe the Liver Fluke is at the heart of Sooo many ailments. So many different symtoms listed on different web pages. I have almost all of the ones you have all listed. Beware even the lab test (If you are lucky to be given one) can show up nothing. But when You do the coffee enema it's pretty profound. Google pictures of liver flukes (A few different types) and compare. If you woul like immediate relief do the liver cleanse (Goggle Olive oil lemon or grapefruit juice juice cleanse) but be forewarned, you need to do a parasite cleanse before this (will not irraticate Liver Flukes) this will help with the amount of toxicity your liver will dump, that you dump into your system. I have to stress, even if you take pictures and try to explain this to your Dr. It's hopeless. Goggle "Liver Fluke Cure" and go from there.. Had to be my own Dr. Reply
keith, Community Member
3/27/14 8:22am

I have suffered for 10 yrs. So many doctors, some told me to live with it. Latest doctor, gastroenterology, gave me a ct scan. Found fatty liver. Symptoms don't show until it gets bad enough.  It explains pain under right rib,  fatigue, headaches,  muscle pain,  diarrhea,  occasional blood in stool, sharp painful attacks. All my symptoms. Thankful that I found a doctor who cares. Mad that so many dismissed me. Look up fatty liver disease. Good luck

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feathers2069, Community Member
3/28/14 5:43pm

Your story is much like mine. It was 10 years of pain. 10 diff doctors and noon would listen to me. I had a popping in my rib area . I did my own digging and I read slipped rib syndrome. I went to the Mayo Clinic in Fla. There is another Mayo Clinic location. And they agreed with me, they asked me what the doctor said when I told them what I thought I had" they said I don’t know what you are talking about" . Pain clinics care nothing about finding a cure. All they want to do is keep you on drugs. I went to the Mayo and they removed 3mil of my rib which had come disconnected from the cartridge and was rubbing on a nerve. Please , The cost of the Mayo is the same as going to a special list, or a regular doctor. The only cost you have to worry about is the hotel where you stay. And the Hotels around the Mayo give special rates to people that go there. I could tell you the 10 years of pain and my gall balder being taken out. and all the shots in my back. Please, go to the Mayo , they will find your problem and fix you . Now don't get wrong they also found out that I have deteriorating    disc in my back T7 T8 area. I take meds, but it isn't even a third of what I was taking. To start with I was on 90mil of morphine. Along with other drugs. I'm telling you doctors don't care, and for sure pain clinics are the worst. Please go to the Mayo. Then you will be able to write others in pain and let them know what the Mayo did for you. Going any distance is better than being in pain and living a life of hell.

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