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Monday, January 12, 2009 dockside, Community Member, asks

Q: Laser Spine Surgery

I would really like to know, do any of the experts know of the Laser Spine Institute in TampaFlorida?

 

If so, do you know if their techniques are as successful as they advertise?  Are these techniques widely used in the US?

 

I have been disabled by pain due to combination of conditions in my lower back.  I had a 2 surgeries on my back (not fusions) when I was a teenager.  The scar tissue from these surgeries and other surgeries has become a contributing factor to my back pain, herniated discs (mild to moderate) and a foraminal narrowing. 

 

I injured my piriformis muscle on June 4, 2006 and have had sciatic pain, spasms and swelling in my lower back, hips and legs.  The right side is much more severe. I have disc degeneration in other areas too.

 

I sent my MRI's to the Laser Spine Institute and have gone through the physician's interview by phone.  They say that I am a good candidate for their procedure (a 5 day process) to remove scar tissue and trim the 3 hernias by laser and to remove the bone spur (this may not be the correct medical term) by endoscopic techniques.

 

I live in Canada. Laser spine surgery is not available here. 

 

The reason why this is a good idea for me is because of the minimal invasiveness of the laser and endoscope.  The cost for me would be approximately $30,000.00 plus.  With the currency exchange it would be about $40,000.00 Canadian.  I just can't afford it, yet it seems to be my only hope for improvement

 

I realize this will not stop further disc degeneration or osteoarthritis future events but if the success rate of this surgery is as good as they say and the doctors and clinic are reputable, isn't my quality of life worth more than my house?

 

All my doctors here do not want me to undergo back surgery because I create a lot of scar tissue which might worsen the situation.  They are supportive of the procedure at the laser spine institute.

 

What can I do?  I am very frustrated that there is something out there that might improve the pain yet I can't have the treatment do to cost.  I have lost a semblance of my prior active life.  Now my big goals are to be able to sit comfortably to watch TV, stay out of bed for 5 hours and not use my cane around the house.  The exhausting pain never goes, it may be reduced with medication but it is always there, invisible and devastating.

 

What can I do?  Does the Laser Spine Institute have a good reputation?

 

Thank you for reading my rather long question.

Sincerely,

Deborah

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Answers (32)
1/12/09 10:05pm

I am not personally familiar with center in Florida, but I can say that I have a patient who underwent laser spinal surgery (in Southern California) on the cervical, thoracic, and lumbar spine. His immediate results were miraculous. Unfortunately, he was in another accident; so his results were short lived.

 

Scientific research is still very inconclusive about laser surgery for the spine.

 

A $40,000 bill is very painful indeed especially when there is no guarantee. I might look to South America (Brazil) or Japan because other countries besides the U.S. (expensive U.S.) have well respected surgeons. And your money might go farther.

 

Dr. Christina Lasich, MD

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jstin466, Community Member
7/13/10 11:11pm

 

          I can tell you that I got hurt when I was thirty-four I am now fifty-eight just what has been spent on me in the first four years after I got hurt was over eighty grand. The L.S.U in West Palm is were I'm talking about I don't know about any other you send them your M.R.I.'s they look at it and will tell you if they can fix the problem. Sorry about the different writing but I've had all that can be done to my back I will be in a wheel chair by this time next year. My first two operation were done by a brain sergion and he mess my spine up so bad that by the time I got a good sports doctor all they could do is repair his mess. I would check them out anyway I have found that there is good and bad in anything that were faced with. I find that you asked the doctor call you talk with some of the people that they have helped and most of the time they will fix it to were you can call them or they call you I know enough about the back and spine that I can tell who I'm talking to thanks for your input but it's a little late for me.

                                                                      Sincerely,

                                                                     jstin  Burke

 

P.S. Please forgive my spelling.

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gary, Community Member
8/10/10 9:59pm

hi, my name is gary (L5 disc degeration) can you please tell the name of the docter who did the laser spine surgery. please hurry they are about to fuse me in a few weeks so i can cancel. please i really don't want to do this sugery, but  i can't live with this pain  it's ruined my life. help!! this sugery is last resort i just can take this pain any more. hope to hear like really really soon. sorry  to sound so demanding, i feel rude. thank you and take care.

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detox77, Community Member
1/27/11 10:22am

Gary,

 

I had my surgery with Gary Craig Wolff in Tampa Fl. Where is your surgery scheduled. Please let me know.

 

Thanks

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guy, Community Member
2/27/12 5:16pm

double and triple check your options i thought the pain couldnt be any worse either,but trust me it can,i had my lumbar l5 and cervical done by laser spine institute,tampa florida it was like a chop shop!they reel you in and feed on your pain issues and have the nerve to express how its going to be alot better,what they dont tell you is HOW WORSE IT COULD BE!!!! please watch yourself i had insurance that was billed over 60,000 ive lost employment due to the pain being worse and now unbearible headaches 24/7 and now it seems im at their mercy,now they want to do a nerve block on c3 to see if thats what is the problem why wouldnt they do that proir to surguery than  just guessing the first time is beyond me,they sound so concerned and helpful but in the end they have their money and your left alone to deal with the issues,god bless and goodluck,

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jackie, Community Member
4/ 3/12 11:55pm

My husband is scheduled for surgery at the Tampa Laser Institute on 4/25/12. I have been researching online and have read a lot of negative feedback on this facility. he is very skeptical now on wether he should go thru with the procedure/surgery. could you please email me back at jscur44@aol.com

thanks

 

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guy, Community Member
2/27/12 7:15pm

gary please watch out for yourself if laser spine institute any location is one of your options,ive recently had my cervical and lumbar done and im going through hell,the thing your led to beleive and dont really second guess is they say it could possibly not help,NOT MAKE THINGS THREE TIMES WORSE!!!! and trust me it got worse would love to give u all the info i can and how to protect yourself as im a victom after the fact and was in your very same spot,dont rush as sounds of a pain free life try to work on our weeknesses,god bless and try to keep your hesd up!

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guy, Community Member
2/27/12 7:18pm

double and triple check your options i thought the pain couldnt be any worse either,but trust me it can,i had my lumbar l5 and cervical done by laser spine institute,tampa florida it was like a chop shop!they reel you in and feed on your pain issues and have the nerve to express how its going to be alot better,what they dont tell you is HOW WORSE IT COULD BE!!!! please watch yourself i had insurance that was billed over 60,000 ive lost employment due to the pain being worse and now unbearible headaches 24/7 and now it seems im at their mercy,now they want to do a nerve block on c3 to see if thats what is the problem why wouldnt they do that proir to surguery than  just guessing the first time is beyond me,they sound so concerned and helpful but in the end they have their money and your left alone to deal with the issues,god bless and goodluck,

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OTTO, Community Member
1/22/13 7:59am

i got to see a surgent in shands hospital first it was yes & now no for surgery.I am 72 years old and tired of pain. I have a herniated disc and nerve pain in to my legs. the nice doctor never  called me back,nice doctor he told me to go  for rehab.what a joke i have more pain now. i will go back to my house doctor and live on vicodin.

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jstin Burke, Community Member
1/15/09 11:08pm

    I can tell you that i have been following this spine center i don't know if you have seen or how much you have read about this hospital center. The tech neat that they use is just unbievable i have had Six lower spine surgerys,three fusions,twenty grand worth of the best electronics you can buy so the say. Thirty nine hours under anasteuare if i knew that LSI was around i would have been the first one there. I'm sure that you have their web-site i was hurt twenty two years ago and the surgon that one or two people told me about carve me up he did three of the six operation. When i went to him his office was full all the time to make it short he was a brain doctor and did backs as a side line money maker. SPI wasn't around them i have watch their video and when they finish they put a band-aid over the hole. I have listen to people who have been there and had their backs

taken care of they threw their meds:away check them out. I highley believe in them.

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tervlover, Community Member
7/12/10 10:47pm

lsi was the worst mistake i ever made ... worse after surgery and broke!

referrals are all bogus ... you feel great for 2 weeks - they even get you off a walker - but it's from steroids they shot in the minimally-invasive tube-sized hole in your neck ... they're not even qualified ... one of my docs called and they were MDs, not neuro-surgeons ... building made out of marble .... people going back for third and fourth surgeries ...

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brandi b., Community Member
7/18/10 6:42pm

hi, i am very concerned about this place, my best friend is going there in 2 weeks for neck and back surg. and all i can find out about this place is awful. i am very sorry about your experience.

thank you for listening,

brandi b.

 

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detox77, Community Member
1/27/11 10:25am

Hello,

 

I would stay far from this place if I were you. I had a bad experience and would not recommend this to anyone.

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detox77, Community Member
1/27/11 10:19am

I totally agree with you about LSI. This place needs to be shut down. I would love to help you with doing what it takes to get the word out in regards to NOT going there. I had neck and back surgery in 2008 and been on Long Term Disability since the surgery. I had high medical cost and no pay right now. Stay away and be very aware that they will not do u good but harm you instead. Just contact Board of Health in FL and ask about any cases pending.

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durham, Community Member
1/27/09 5:46pm

Hey Dockside,

 

It sounds to me like I've got the same conditions as you have.  I'm in my mid-twenty's & have now been suffering for about 5 years, if not longer.  I was also curious about the laser procedure done in Tampa, FL as it was recommended to me by a doctor here in Canada where I reside.

 

I know it's offered in the U.S & not yet here in Canada if it ever will be.  It is very expensive as you outlined, but after reading many testimonials it sounds as if the success rate is overall the best for this type of procedure.

 

I still want to do a bit of research on it, but am seriously thinking of getting this done... cause if this can fix me, price doesn't matter... quality of life does!

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Les, Community Member
1/25/10 12:28pm

I am also very interested in LSI and have been searching the internet for feedback.  So far I have found no doctors here in NS who are familiar with the LSI clinic in Florida.  Could you tell me the name of your doctor who recommended it to you?

 

 

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Notsoblonde, Community Member
10/14/10 6:10pm

My Doc is Gregory Flynn at 2808 W. M.L.K. Blvd in Tampa Florida he is doing laser spine surgery on the lumbar area only; it is real successful on the lumbar.  He is on the web I am hoping that Work. Comp. Ins. will approve me for this surgery.  His web address is http://www.yourpaindoctor.com

 

Good luck and come to the Bay area the beaches are just fine.

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bob, Community Member
10/23/10 10:03am

hi--i am a family doc in halifax--itoo have severe back troubles and had a good friend extol micropspine in  de funiak springs, florida--since of course we are waiting interminably for anything here, adn I am in great pain, i am looking into going there in a couple weeks--i have also booked an appt with a neursurgeon in west palm beach for another opinion before i go to microspine--have you had any success?

bob fredrickson

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tervlover, Community Member
7/12/10 10:48pm

I'll be honest about LSI in Tampa ... it worsened my condition ... my neurosurgeon here did an MRI and the MRI tech. compared them and even annotated that my condition was WORSENED by my surgery at LSI in Tampa!

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Carolin, Community Member
2/ 5/09 1:44pm

Hi, 

I'm also doing some research for my grand-mother on this surgery.  I called the clinic in Tampa and it's very expensive.  I found a clinic in Calgary that i'm currently looking into.

 

Dr. Jacques A Bouchard

Work Phone: 403-944-8236

Foothills Medical Center

1403-29th street NW G33k

Calgary T2N 2T9 Canada

 

I hope this help....please keep me posted with your finding....and I will do the same.

 

Carolin

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BJ, Community Member
5/ 8/09 10:31am

Good morning,

 

I am too looking into this facility in Florida.  I am from Ontario, Canada and the doctor's here could not care less.  I have 3 lumbar disc bulges and neck problems due to a car accident.  I believe there has to be a better solution to the growing number of people requiring this surgery.  I am going to have to sell my home as well.  I have spoken to so many people who have had surgery at LSI and they highly recommend them.  Not one person had anything negative to say about them.  Keep me posted on any new findings or info. in Canada.

 

Sincerely,

BJ

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KO, Community Member
6/10/11 12:50pm

 

Hello. I saw your posting and wondered if you have had laser spinal surgery yet, and how it went and if there is a specific facility you recommend. I have severe cervical stenosos at C5/C6 and moderate stenosis at C7, plus a softening of the spinal cord.  I also live in Ontario.  I'm considereing laser spinal surgery.

Thanks

KO

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Vickie, Community Member
10/ 6/09 12:35am

Try Microspine, They are located in the Florida panhandle and have people from all over the world to have surgery's there. My roommate has used them for pain management for 4 yrs. And is fixing to have to go through her first laser surgery. To undo all 4 previous surgery damage.

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Muffet, Community Member
11/14/09 10:23pm

I am on the waiting list in Vancouver for a lumbar laminectomy, and have been reading about LSI.  There must be a reason we don't have laser back surgery in Canada, since it seems to be successful in the USA, although not for everyone.  I would be interested to know about your results with the clinic in Calgary. 

Thanks. 

Muffet

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notmobile60, Community Member
6/11/10 9:03pm

i just found this web site-did you ever find out anything about this

alberta clinic? please sent info along thanks

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Zoe, Community Member
7/ 2/10 6:50pm

Hi - I've been looking into LSI in Scottsdale, AZ - I live in Edmonton.  I just tried calling Bouchard's office but they are now closed until August - did you contact them and does he perform laser surgery?

 

Cyndie Lack

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Carolyn, Community Member
4/22/09 2:02pm

Hi

If you ever find out about the clinic in Calgary, please let me know as well at likestoclean@hotmail.com

I went to the laser seminar from Tampa in Toronto last night and would LOVE to be able to go there but it is totally out of my reach :-(

Best of luck!

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Frank, Community Member
5/10/09 5:26am

I recently had surgery at LSI and it was a nightmare.  I wish that I had asked myself some basic questions.  Here are some answers.  LSI has to advertise because it is unlikely that your family doctor would ever refer you to them if they had ever visited LSI.  LSI's doctors claim to be board certified, but they won't tell you which board.  LSI's doctors brag about the work they do to relive nerve pain, but they do nothave any neurosurgeons.  LSI's doctors do not carry enough malpractice insurance because Florida law lets them practice this way since they have no hospital privileges.  LSI makes you feel better temporarily because they do nerve ablations and shoot you up with a cocktail of steroid injections.  I was able to negotiate their $30,000 down to $5000 only because ANYTHING  they get is too much, and I could have gone to any reputable hospital and had a better surgery for less.  Their laser is not widely accepted as the standard by real surgeons because the laser can cause a lot of unintended damage to surrounding bone and tissue.  I walked out of my son's graduation yesterday and went home because I could not stand the pain.  If only I would have walked out of LSI, I would have a picture of me with my son in his gown.  I threw away my money and my life in Tampa.

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soudi, Community Member
10/ 9/09 12:52am

Hi Please let me know how are you feeling now. This is realy very very important to me.I have no choice to beg you to answer me frankly.did the money worth it. Are you OK now. Hope you are.

Thank you and bless

 

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alan, Community Member
5/ 7/10 6:31pm

MY   wife   Susan   Berkov had   3 surgeries   at  LSI.

 

WE   are  no  having  to   have FUsions    surgery   At   Tampa   General

 

Thanks

 

 

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ALAN, Community Member
11/22/10 1:15pm

MY  WIFE   has   3 unsuccessful    back    surgeries   at  LSI in  2008.

 

HAS   anyone  in   the   process   of   suiiing LSI/   ??

 

Alan   Berkov

 

PS  MY   WIFE   HAD   VERY  SUCCESSFUL   back    surgery   this   summmer    at   tampa   general   Hospital.  NEW  kind   Of   SURGERY

 

Moderator's Note: For your safety and privacy, please do not post personal information such as email addresses and telephone numbers.

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Marlene, Community Member
5/16/09 12:15pm

Dear Deborah,

 

I also live in Ontario, Canada, my neurologist says he wants me to have an operation for cervical myelopathy.  I have no strength in my lower limbs, I fall all the time, have been in hospital for a month where every test under the sun was done.  The doctor's once said to me that after allt he tests results came back and they were all negative.  But after my stay in the hospital they decided that I should have surgery to release the compression on the spinal cord.

 

I have done my research, and to me the best way for this is through laser spine surgery. 

 

Like you, I cannot afford it, so what are we to do.

 

I do not want to take the change which is only by the way 50/50 on being paralized.

 

There must be some hospitals in Canada that have laser spine surgery, and if there are I wish they would help us.

 

Stay strong, you are not alone.

 

Marlene

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dockside, Community Member
5/21/09 4:44pm

Hi Marlene and everyone,

I did follow up with LSI until the end.  It turns out that when I asked them for a letter from one of their doctors, signed, on their letterhead, specific to me, so that I could at least apply for medicare reimbursement, they refused.  Eventually, they asked to see all my MRI studies on CD.  Then I got a 3 line response from the intake person that I required more invasive surgery than LSI could provide and my CD's would be returned to me.  I tried to ask them for a more comprehensive evaluation of what their doctor's thought I did need but they would not ever answer anymore emails from me. 

 

This took 6 months of my life working to find money supply informationtion to my doctor, ask for letters from my doctors for medicare, writing to LSI often.

 

Looking back at the process, I beilieve that the application MRI reports never reach a doctor.  If the report says you have a hernia, then I believe they write to you and say you are a candidate.  Then you spend an hour on the phone with a physician's assistant or so they say, answering questions about your symptoms.  They seem knowledgeable so you get hopeful.  Then they send you the "standard" letter of acceptance and you begin the financial part and still no one has reviewed your MRI's or you.  They encourage you to come for an evaluation but it isn't required.  And all the while say you will be playing golf again in a few weeks.

 

I do believe this proceedure could help many people if caught at the right time.  I never thought that it would be a permenent solution and therefore the cost is really high.  Perhaps if proper aftercare is done by the patient and realistic goals are set, maybe it could be good for some.

 

For myself, on June 4th, it will be 3 years of dibilitating pain.  I just had a new MRI a few weeks ago which shows a lot more deterioration of my lumbar spine at 3 levels with more hernias, tears, foraminal narrowing etc than a year ago.  Now the doctors seem more interested in helping me find a more permenant solution but it is like I it just happened with new doctors etc.

 

Best of luck to all of you,

Dockside Deb

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seeking facts, Community Member
12/10/09 2:12pm

^Thanks for sharing your Truths about LSI they now charge 18500 plus whatever your insurance covers. They claim this as a facility fee not covered by any insurance. Be afraid very Afraid when seeking help from these folks . I did my own recent investigation and went to a seminar ,followed the process which was  almost as bad as a Time share pitch then later spoke with several other docs( Board Certified Neurosurgeons) with real credentials at real hospitals . It seems these folks are skirting the truth at best while also boasting they havent had one malpractice  lawsuit. This is because florida doesnt require you to have malpractice insurance at all But ya do have to inform the patients that ya dont carry it. If ya dont have malpractice insurance then ya wont likely get sued because no lawyers will take your case unless they have $$$$ or Malpractice Insurer to collect from. I asked for similar cost estimates CPT codes and diclosure of fees as well as narrative specific to the specific surgical procedures and costs that they intended for my treatment(s) . The "patient advocate" simply re-instated the same generic and ambigious 60-80 k plus 18,500 "facility Fee" not covered by insurance. I believeThis is a rip off and as overpriced as dangerous. I have multiple cervical and lumbar injuries and qualify for a number of interventions but wouldnt advize roll the dice at LSI table . By the way they seem to want to bill for thier own MRI, Epidurals, Nerve Conduction tests and other modalities thus bleeding either you or insurance Day 1 and 2 of thier" 5 day bendover and just trust me" vacation . Dont do it ! Its a racket youll one day likely see on 20/20 A local Doc ( florida) also told me one thier top docs had lost his license to practice which doest mean he cant still work for or loan his name/credentials while working at or for the practice thus explaining some of thier marketing statements. Thanks for warning others you confirmed my fears when comparing my real life experience during and after a seminar here in florida. Try calling the Lylery Group in Jacksonville Fl . No I dont work for them I simply have learned to trust them after seeing many others and after alot of B.S from others. I have yet to have surgery but am scheduled and believe me I too ran from these folks , There are many others that can offer the same and even better service. Y=You like myself have likely found it difficult to get docs to explain all the options ,risks as well all the facts /truth . Thanx your post insired me also to help others by pointing out some of the so called doctors whom are more like parasites feeding on our pain while bleeding us of every last dime . First do no harm often isnt even in thier plan of care ,and First make a buck is a more suitable description of thier focus

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tervlover, Community Member
7/18/10 11:10pm

u are so right ... i wish i had listened to myself ... so many little things didn't go right before I flew there for surgery ... LSI is full of bad MDs ... my neurosurgeon told me I was lucky they didn't do more harm than they did!  i hope everyone listens and does not visit an LSI ... you're right ... I called several FL attorneys (malpractice) and they said they wouldn't take the case ... laws in FL written for corporations like them ... good luck ... i'll say one for you

 

tervlover

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tervlover, Community Member
7/18/10 11:27pm

will pray for you and your pain ... so glad u didn't go to LSI ... and thank the Lord they did little harm (no help) to me ... my new neuro-surgeon said they did nothing but make my condition worse ... you were so smart ... you listened to yourself and your feelings ... I had a titanium fusion (almost no loss of mobility) and my Mother has had several vertebrae injected with cement ... she was in horrible pain ... her ortho said to lie in bed for three months in pain ... the neuro-surgeon sent us to the doctor that uses a special x-ray and MRI to see where your vertebrae are cracked or "empty" ... she's had it done 5 times and feels relief immediately after ... the pain associated before the procedure is horrific ...

 

i'll pray for u

 

tervlover

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herb, Community Member
8/12/09 6:58pm

I had a nightmare experience with Laser Spine Institute. Dr. Craig Wolff appeared impaired to me when he operated on my spine at LSI in February 2009. He tore my spinal cord (dura) causing spinal fluid to leak into my body cavity after operating on a level not indicated in the initial examination and surgery order. Sent me to a hotel room to recover. I am in unspeakable pain now. I wondered if Craig Wolff was under the influence when he practiced on me, so on a hunch, I looked up arrest records in Hillsborough County where he practices. Sure enough, he was arrested for driving under the influence about three weeks after my surgery. RUN - don't walk away.(while you still can) http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09012378

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dockside, Community Member
8/15/09 9:58am

WOW!  That is terrible.  I guess I am fortunate that "they" supposedly the doctors rejected me as a good candidate for their proceedures because "they" thought I needed more extensive surgery.

 

I have heard of other failures and even the sucesses seem to be short lived (a couple of years).  It sounded like such a good option. 

 

Are you going to report your suspisions to LSI or a medical board?

 

I am so sorry you are in so much pain.  This is a very supportive web site and there are pain forums you can join to vent some of your frustrations.

 

I wish you luck in finding some relief for your pain.

 

Dockside

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detox77, Community Member
3/31/10 8:49pm

Herb,

 

Hi, I am still trying to find a good malpractice lawyer against LSI. I received reports from the Board of Health of Florida in regards to Dr. Craig Wolff. I am very displease with him. If you know of an good attorney or a large firm. Please let me know.


Thanks!

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angel, Community Member
5/13/10 12:51am

wow that is aweful, and i was just researching LSI AND showed so many good test, on Dr Wollf. Now Im not so sure.

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detox77, Community Member
1/27/11 9:55am

I would contact the Board of Health in FL and ask about Dr. Wolff Medical Surgerical outcomes. THere are complaints and look at Consumer Affairs as well.

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Garps1, Community Member
6/11/10 10:27am

Hello There,

I'm so sorry to hear of the challenges you've endured with LSI. I also suffer from extensive back injuries and while I'm here in Texas from Ontario, where I live, thought I'd look into this 'obscure' laser surgery procedure. Thankyou so much for your kind honesty. It seems this is rare thing when dealing with a lot of folks on both sides of the border about Minimally Invasive Laser Back Surgery.

 

I may have an answer for your question about needing a good lawyer. Since your email is from some time ago, it's likely you've already moved on with this issue. If not, let me know and I can put you in contact with a very large quality lawfirm with specific teams dedicated to this kind of thing. In addition, I can get you a 25% discount from their fees. It's a program that I stumbled across ten years ago and has saved me thousands of dollars in legal costs and just like Oprah Winfrey or Donald Trump I am 'legally wealthy'. You should also know that I am on a VERY small disability income so cost is a HUGE factor. You can reach me directly at my email address: garps1@gmail.com

 

I'm from the Oakville/Burlington, Ontario area. Hope this finds you feeling better than when you sent your email.

Sincerely,

Gary

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alan, Community Member
10/10/11 9:47pm

THere  are   several   tampa  lawyers in   mal-practice   suits   against  LSI

 

Send  me  your  phone  # if  want  more  infromation   aberkov@tampabay.rr.com

 

my   wife   had   3  unsuccessfull   back   surgeries   at  lsi-tampa  in  2008

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soudi, Community Member
10/ 9/09 12:43am

Hi Debora i would like to know whether you have gone to LSI yet or still thinking.

I am in the same conditions as you are, have attended even their seminar here in Vancouver last week. I am to have either a surgery here sson or decide to go to them, or there is another laser clinic in texas. their fees are less & about 20.000US. My surgeon here was not supportive of laser one. I am quite sure of myself that even i had a little bit of doubt to go for surgery, now i just focus on laser one. May God help us and i wish you all the best. Please let me know if you had done anything since January2009.

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dockside, Community Member
10/13/09 6:43pm

Hi,

 

As I said above, at first LSI accepted me / my case, simply by my MRI faxed report and a brief conversation with a person calling themselves a doctor's assistant. 

 

I was not well enough to travel to Tampa or Arizona for a physical assessment.  After months and months of communications, I sent them all my MRI's and CT scans on CD.  "Apparently", their doctors reviewed my case and said I needed more extensive surgery than they could provide.   Eventually, I received a 3 line email from my coordinator denying my surgery for the above reason. 

 

When I asked for further information about their assessment of my back and what they thought I did need, no one would answer any further emails from me.  At that time they were charging $30,000 US.  I guess the recession affected LSI too if the surgery is now $20,000 US.

 

Due to my interest in this surgery I have learned more from people who did not have success and the final outcome of my case, these are the things I would ask you to be aware of are.......

 

- Did they accept you as a patient without viewing your MRI or examining you?

 

- Be cautious of your activities following the surgery.  Their 5 day cure may be too good to believe.

 

- They would not give me a personalized letter from a doctor to apply to  Canadian Medicare for some financial reimbursement.

 

- Because many conditions are progressive in nature, the laser surgery may not last as long as you hope, therefore seriously consider your own doctor's option.

 

There are many LSI conferences across Canada at this time perhaps you could bring your MRI and speak to the doctor directly.  If this was a less expensive surgery, perhaps it would help more people earlier.  It seems to be controversial as to how effective laser surgery is long term for backs.

 

Hope this helps.

Please feel free to ask more questions.

Dockside

 

 

 

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Annie, Community Member
1/ 4/10 7:58pm

HI Dockside  (and Others)

  I live in Canada and I am scheduled to have surgery at LSI the end of this month, January/10. My Drs here want to do a Fusion and was hopeful for a less invasive surgery. I sent 2 MRI's + Xrays and written reports to LSI and they accepted my case. They said they could correct my issues with Spinal stenosis, bulging discs, bone spur, arthritis, and degenerative disc disease. I have asked for the name of the doc that will operate on me but they say they can't tell me until they assess me on "day 2".

  I was very excited to go and have this done for the discounted price for "Canadian patients" for "January only" of $22,500.00 as apposed to the original price of $30,000.00. I have been searching for more info on LSI and I just came accross this site. How do I know what is truth and what is bad publicity by competitors?

 I am so dissapointed...I have made arrangment to go there in 3 weeks but I am now skeptical and worried?? Please advise me if you can. Thanks. Annie

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fran, Community Member
1/28/10 11:22pm

Hi, I wish you all the best if you decide to have laser surgery. I to live in canada and eager to have laser surgery, but with all negative reponse from either competitors or real complaints it's a uncertain decission.

My doctors lead me to LSI. that is why I too am on line to see if it is worth going.

LSI have people you can contact (patience) I called someone who lived in Toronto,; he said the surgery went really well. So I asked to see him. I was shocked to see a 70yr old man walking without a cain. I like to see first hand.

I spoke to LSI they seem to be caring but forcefull to sell this procedure thats why.

It will allways be sells especially in the states.

 

I wish you lots of luck. pls reply if you had it done.thanks

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Still Searching, Community Member
2/ 5/10 4:05pm

Annie,

I have also been searching for something for my husband that had his 3r, 4th & 5th disc replaced and fusion.  He is still in pain.  We were looking for some more help.    When we went to our primary Dr. to get a referal for a CAT scan, he suggested that we check out the site by "googling" LSI and malpractice.  That is how I ran across the website below.  Please visit the website below.  We have changed our mind about LSI.  Good luck to you.

Pat

 

http://www.revolutionhealth.com/forums/bones-joints-muscles/back-pain/70645

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Still Searching, Community Member
2/ 9/10 10:54pm

Annie,

Did you go to LSI and if so, how did the operation go?  Thanks.

Still Searching

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tervlover, Community Member
7/18/10 11:52pm

if you cancel now, they won't charge you $1k for canceling ... awful ... spent all my money ... all fakes ... did nothing but laser two bone spurs a tiny bit (enough for the vertebrae to smash my nerves even more), a nerve ablation, and a big shot of steroids ... i felt good for 2-3 weeks ... then worse than ever!

 

I wanted to BELIEVE ... all the referral people would not return my calls AFTER my surgery ... they were so HAPPY and positive before my surgery ... finally, a husband called me back and said the surgery didn't work ... LSI told his wife she had to have another procedure, and she was bed-bound again ... wonder if LSI gives discounts to those who give good referrals (some of them on the list are employees!)

 

I found a good neurosurgeon (LSI has only MDs and bad ones) ... had another MRI ... and he said he would repair the damage they did and would relieve me of my nerve pain.

 

I called LSI and they said I should come back and pay them to work on C7/C8?  My MRI had only shown problems at C5/C6 where they did their work.  I called a few lawyers in FL and said LSI can't be touched ... not a hospital ... always changing phone #s ...

 

tervlover

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Mary, Community Member
9/25/10 8:40pm

Annie

 

Are you still reading this forum? I find it very hard to sort out the truth on these forums, but your story sounds closest to mine so I'm hoping yours is a true case. I also sent MRI report to LSI, they said they could correct the same issues you mentioned. They also told me that as a Cndn the cost would be $22,500 instead of the usual $30,000. Did you end up having your surgery? How did it go? Please email me at enenex@shaw.ca, I would love to hear from you.

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Betty, Community Member
12/25/10 10:59am

Annie: did you go ahead with the laser procedure. I went to a seminar here in Windsor, Ontario in Sept. 2010 & they said my husband was a excellent candiate

just by looking at his MRI. He has gotten a lttle better just on his own /but that won't last. I have been trying to research it and get so many opinions. PLEASE HELP ME.

 

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Honeypie 5, Community Member
1/27/11 9:40am

I live in Canada also, and have the same conditions you have. I called LSI about 6 months ago and the US price given to me was $20,000 dollars. There was no January special at that time. So far I have decided to take heed from all these posts and stay clear of that place. However, if you decide to go, please keep posting so that I can see firsthand if it was successful.

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Honeypie 5, Community Member
1/27/11 9:40am

I live in Canada also, and have the same conditions you have. I called LSI about 6 months ago and the US price given to me was $20,000 dollars. There was no January special at that time. So far I have decided to take heed from all these posts and stay clear of that place. However, if you decide to go, please keep posting so that I can see firsthand if it was successful.

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Dan, Community Member
3/22/12 6:59pm

Dear Annie: I was wondering if you had LSI work on your problem? I have been reading, and have cervical problems, and the more I read the more worried I get.

Let me know, if possible. My email is dsimsasp@yahoo,com Thank Dan

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Rita Sardana, Community Member
5/20/12 3:25am

Hi Annie,

 

Did you go to laser spine to have surgery?  What happened as I am also thinking of going there

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Fernand Pare', Community Member
2/11/10 9:35am

Hi there,  A neighbor of ours that live in Sask. just had laser surgery in Phoenic AZ and I could not believe the difference in him within 5 days....He was to the point that he could not even comfortably sit in a chair and in constant spasms....He came home and has been active ever since...It cost him  arounf $20,000 including hotels meals etc but he is extremely glad he had it done.....the scar is almost nil.....

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mmttt, Community Member
2/27/10 11:05am

Why oh why would anyone go to Phoenix Arizona and visit LSI when the world renowned Barrows is there?  I had surgery for cervical myelopathy in Nov at Barrows and it went so well, so smoothly.  I called LSI just out of curiosity and they take no insurance (medicare) and the reason is they use a hotel for the hospital.

 

Trust me, I needed a hospital and lots of nursing care for the first 12 hours post op, not some stupid hotel.

 

If you go to LSI wherever you live, just do one thing.  Get a second opinion from an orthopedic spine surgeon or better yet a neurosurgeon in your area that practices at a large hospital and has a reputation.  The problem with LSI is you dont know who the dr is going to be, they depend on their nonstop heavy advertising and seminars, where any neurosurgeon is so busy they dont have time to do any of that nonsense.  They make you drop records off and if they can help they make appt.  They are too busy seeing patients who truly need surgery. 

 

Just get another opinion.  Ask the dr about LSI, ask the dr about "postop could I stay in a hotel" and see if its even something that you could do.  I'm sure LSI will give you another answer.

 

BACK SURGERY IS TRICKY ENOUGH WITH ENOUGH FAILURES, WHY NOT GO TO THE BEST?  ITS A VERY IFFY SURGERY THAT YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF OPTIONS.  DON'T GO SOMEWHERE THAT IS QUESTIONABLE TO DO A SURGERY THAT IS VERY RISKY AND 50/50 AT BEST FROM THE BEST. 

 

Just my $.02 worth (thats 2cents) but I think after having 2 spine surgeries most spine and most family dr's would agree with me.  Have your family dr get you a referral to LSI.  That will tell you.  (I dont think it can be done).  The PPO/HMO wont pay for it which speaks volumes.  I could be wrong but a friend told me he could not get a referral.  JUST DO YOUR HOMEWORK, DO NOT LISTEN TO THEIR ADVERTISEMENTS OR THEM AT THE SEMINARS.  GOOD LUCK!!!

 

PS: I am on lots of pain meds despite going to two of the finest neurosurgeons in the US.  One in 1992 and one in 09.  I dont even want to think of where I would be if something went wrong in the surgery.  It all went perfect and here I am. 

Scary stuff, not for someone who hasn't had lots and lots of training and is not the best of the best.   I'm sure LSI has had some training, but they are not the best, they are not world famous, they are not highly regarded, they have as many or more naysayers as they do positive talkers.

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mmttt, Community Member
2/27/10 11:29am

HI, you need a place like this:  http://www.sciatica.com/  I think they are in Arizona but there are other places like them.  LSI didn't invent this.  The guy in the site I gave you (the older one) was one of the pioneers.  He has his tools patented and marketed to other Dr's, and for all I know LSI might use them.   LSI did NOT invent this.  They use the "laser as a gimmick".  I read somewhere that the laser is really not good for surgery in that area of your body.  I wish I could find that-  Here is an article from mayo clinic, and there is an article (look for it) that says "the laser while good for lots of different surgeries, is not good for spinal surgery".  I think the reason was the risks of damaging something you dont want damaged.    I know there are tons of lawsuits against some of these places for damage to bowels, etc.  I dont know if its LSI or another competitor, but just because it says laser does not mean its better.  http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-edge-newspaper-2009/june-26a.html

 

More info.  you can do research--just get MANY REFERENCES.  LSI is not the answer until you've seen 2-3 other neurosurgeons/orthos and neurologists and had them tell you, that "I think LSI is a good idea for you".                              

 

http://www.gaia-health.com/articles/000045-LaserSpineInstitute-Psycho003.shtml

 

Just ask yourself this:  How many neurosurgeons do you know that do heavy advertising?  I know of none.  LSI are not even neurosurgeons so I guess thats not fair.   Just be so careful.  Dont rush into anything, if it takes a month or 2-3 to get in somewhere for a 2nd opinion, wait.  Dont rush into LSI.  They make it sooo convenien.

 

 

 

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mmttt, Community Member
2/27/10 11:36am

Read the last 2 sentences of that mayo article.  That sums it up.  Its from 2009 so its not old either. ---FROM ARTICLE:  Very few neurosurgeons regard laser spine surgery as a viable alternative to conventional spine surgery techniques. At Mayo Clinic, we don't use or recommend laser spine surgery.

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Ed, Community Member
3/ 2/10 6:38pm

I went to the Laser Spine Institute in Arizona, my laser surgery was 3 weeks ago and was very successful, I basically needed a cane when I went in and now have walked up to a mile with no limp, I still have 2-3 months rehab to gain muscle, the staff at Laser Spine was very professional and propperly diagnosed me.  In Canada I was mis diagnosed with A.L.S. and told that I couldn't be helped.

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Bruce, Community Member
3/ 8/10 1:30pm

Check out LSI on facebook and you can get many comments from peoplle that have had the surgery

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JBA, Community Member
3/27/10 2:46pm

I am a Canadian and had laser surgery at the Laser Spine Institute in Tampa a few years ago. I have suffered from chronic back pain for many years and was unable to get any medical help in Canada and alternative medicene was not helping me either. Altough it was expensive, I went to LSI out of desperation in hopes of lessening my constant pain and being able to do and enjoy simple things in life again. I attended a Seminar at LSI in Tampa. I met with the medical director afterwards, who looked at my MRI and expressed utmost confidence that they would be able to help me. My family doctor also said I should go ahead, as my chances of getting treated in Canada were slim to none. I was impressed with the technology and LSI's confidence, so I had the procedure done.  Unfortunately, it did not work out for me. I am little better than I was. I would definetly not recommend LSI to anyone based on my own experience. My attempt at communicating with LSI about the failure of my surgery has been unsuccessful. I completed their post surgery survey and asked to be contacted but have never received any response. I did call and spoke to a doctor over the phone who was quite rude and was the opposite of the gracious welcome that I received when I first went LSI. They seem to be only interested in positive feedback which they can use in their promotional advertising. I am certainly disappointed with LSI. Having said this, I still like everything about the technology itself, and would like to see it in Canada. Just remember, like any surgery, it is a gamble and there are absolutely no guarantees that you will have a successful result. You won't get a refund or any expression of regret from LSI.

I would research places other than LSI if you want to go ahead, including other countries where it is considerably cheaper and the medical standards are high.

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JohnnyJokeMaker, Community Member
4/13/10 1:34am

I have a herniated disk and made an appointment with LSI for possible surgery. I was quoted $22,500. I understand that the Mayoclinic does not endorse nor say that this procedure is bad. This does not mean that the procedure does not work. They post this because they are covering their asses. There are a lot of procedures that work that carry this statement for various reasons. One of them is that for a procedure to be endorsed, it must go through YEARS of clinical testing, along with other requirements. I was really gung ho about this operation as I can no longer stand my pain in my lower back. I have to work out daily for about 3 hours minimum to feel relief. I'm not too sure after reading this website. Now, I'm stuck in the middle. My orthodoc recommended me having a laminectomy, but I figure that that surgery is worse than this one. Can someone who has had this surgery please tell me how it went. I've research the methods of this surgery and it makes sense, considering everything goes well. Please post advice, I don't wanna make my condition worse.

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alan, Community Member
5/ 7/10 6:22pm

DO  NOT  GO  THERE

 

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ron, Community Member
5/11/10 1:08am

Hello:i have researched laser endoscopic surgery out extensively since i was in an auto accident ans have severe herniated discs.In most cases open back surgery can make things worse with side effects.The best laser spine surgery places i have found to date are.(1) bonati institute florida.over 90% success rate.They helped pioneer this surgery.(2) micro spine In florida,their fees start just over 8000.(3)dayton laser spine in dayton ohio.(4) dr rezaian in beverly hills.(5) san diego spine institute in san diego.Study these over and compare to laser spine institute. Check dr john mcdougalls website,and weimer institites website on lifestyle which may help you long term

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kris, Community Member
5/25/10 11:59pm

I've been a patient at Microspine for over 3 years.  They quit accepting any type of BCBS other than BCBS of Florida. 

I had laser surgery on T11-12 11/2007.  It did help but did not cure my pain.  I am checking into Laser Institute.  The two facilities use different methods of laser surgery.

Microspine can't seem to help with my newly developed L5 nerve pain or I would have them do it.  I am only 1 1/2 from Microspine and 7 hours from LSI.  I am going to contact my doctors at Microspine and see what they think.

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kris, Community Member
5/25/10 11:54pm

I am researching LSI.  If they are horrible doctors and a bad institute, why are there almost 1,400 people on facebook singing their praises?  They are from all over the US and world.  People tend to post their bad experiences, very few post their positive results.  I know, I have posted bad reviews on doctors and I know I am not the only one.  I'm looking for solid info, I've only found 4 patients complaining about them

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detox77, Community Member
6/ 9/10 12:09am

Hello,

 

I am not an expert though I did experience the Laser Spine Surgery in Tampa, FL. The Techniques are not successful as they state per the website and testimonals. I am on Long Term Disability. And would never go back to the facility. If you interested on going there, I would highly caution you. I would check the Board of Health in FL and check the physician who will do the surgery on you prior to going there. The Physician who did surgery on me has two disipline actions against him. Also, I would contact any legal attorneys down in Tampa who may know of the facility prior to heading down there. They will tell you first hand about the place and the problems and the mess that has lead to several others injuries due to medical malpractice. I only wish I did that prior to actually going to the facility. Also, Contact the Attorney General of FL and they will tell you more about this place. Bests wishes. And, I can relate to your pain bc I am in worst pain after the surgery and still on prescription drugs. Good luck! Hope this was helpful.

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ostepathy helps, Community Member
6/14/10 1:10pm

Seems as though LSI is completely out of reach for most people, and were now hearing it isn't what they say it is. I have two herniated discs and the doctors are saying my only option is to be on pain killers for the rest of my life...which is not an option in my eyes. I started seeing an osteopath after having a friend recommend someone..I can honestly say I have never been so relieved from the pain in a LONG time. I go every 6 weeks at about $60 a session. Lots of health plans cover osteopathy aswell...so it's a free fix in the end for most people. Friends and family can't belive the difference in me..Im standing taller and just look healthy for once. The pain level goes down to about a 1 out of 10 on most days...it is amazing!

 

Hope this helps someone.

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tervlover, Community Member
7/12/10 10:35pm

please, please, please don't go there ... i called multiple referrals and they all said "yes - it's incredible!"  .... I spent my life savings (they don't accept insurance ... they submit it for you for $64K - insurance co. laughs - and you get nickels back) ... my spine surgeon here in VA did MRI and he said they actually made it worse!  I think where they get you is this:  they do it minimally invasive through tubes and shoot steroids in there ... i felt better just long enough to make it home - and then WORSE than before!  I tried to call the referral people again and no one will return calls ... I think LSI gives them credits for their NEXT surgeries (some say they need THREE surgeries) ... I got an old-fashioned fusion done with cadaver bones and titanium ... great mobility (C4-C7) ... ugly scar but what the hay ... my friend just had the same surgery done ... she was in horrific pain ... he said the "screws" dissolved ... metal doesn't usually dissolve!  he told her that he had to go back in with bigger screws and a fusion (never telling her what was happening) ... I begged her not to go back to him ... once burnt, twice shy ...

 

Oh - I called BBB about LSI and warned the rep. not to send her friend there ... she said BBB only does searches on phone #s ... and LSI changes theres ...

 

no wonder the building in Tampa is marble!

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tervlover, Community Member
7/12/10 10:38pm

my doctor spoke to a few of theirs and was surprised they were only MDs - not neuro-surgeons!  the doctor that signed me out said NOT to call with any problems ... go to ER and get injections!

 

my doctor in VA would be truthful with you ... he took my insurance and I did not pay a cent ...

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tervlover, Community Member
7/12/10 10:43pm

also - they told me that they would finance my surgery if need be ... called to confirm before I left and the credit guy asked me if I had contacted several companies that give you "medical" credit cards ... such a terrible experience ...

use only a local (not a hospital - they can't use anesthesia) ... i blacked our 5 times from the pain ... they had me duct-taped upside down on the table and wouldn't let me meet Dr. St. Louis (boy, was I gullible) before surgery .... I should have known ... it took hours for them to get the IV in and blood was everywhere ... don't meant to burst your bubble ... but if ONE of the 4 referrals I had spoken to had been honest with me ... I'd be in better shape ... I know your health is worth your house ... but not when it's all for naught ...

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Edward, Community Member
8/16/10 6:50pm

I implore you to NOT HAVE ENDOSCOPIC LASER SURGERY.  I have been crippled for life, and cannot ever recover as a result of this barbaric uncontrolled treatment.  Use common sense.  They thread a laser up through a myriad of nerves and tissues which has the capacity to obliterate anything in its path by the simple touch of a button.  If the laser is not precisely positioned it will obliterate totally and completely including extremely delicate nerves, as in my case.  Despite their FALSE REPORTS of safe, fast, simple,  noninvasive, etc. etc.  This procedure is "extremely dangerous".  How is the laser positioned?  By a extremely small camera on the end of a tether, which has a very limited field of view, and what tissue can be seen is very easily be mistaken for highly sensitive tissues of the nerves. Complicating this virtual "shot in the dark" is the fact that it is very common for individuals to have nerve roots that are anatomically not where they are supposed to be, and then there is the conjoined nerve root which puts two nerve roots at the same spot. Easily not identifiable, and far too easy to confuse as harmless obstructions.  THIS IS A MAJOR MONEY MAKER FOR THESE DOCTORS.  BEWARE BEWARE LEAST YOU PAY A PRICE MUCH MORE TERRIBLE THAN YOUR CURRENT CONDITION. They also strap you into a device that is suppose to tell them when the laser is close to a nerve by sending a electrical signal to warn the surgeon, which simply does not work.  ASK YOURSELF, IF IT IS SO SAFE AND VISABLE, THEN WHY IS SUCH AN APPARATUS NECESSARY.  STAY AWAY. In addition the procedure is so fast, and so profitable these doctors try to do far too many procedures in a single day, and find themselves tired and careless. Find a good Chinese doctor, trained in China.  They know far more about the bodies nervous system than any member of the AMA.  There are many pain management doctors performing this surgery, who are unqualified, with very limited training in the technique.  I commend you for seeking advice from the community at large.  There is help, keep looking, but this procedure is far too dangerous, and far too lucrative.  They are preying on your pain. Its too late for me, and all I can do is write and pray for people like yourself.  You will find a way back to health.  God Bless You, and all our brother and sister Canadians.      

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alan, Community Member
8/24/10 8:22pm

MY  WIFE   HAS  SUCCESSFUl   BACK   SURGERIES at   Tampa   General  Hospital

NEW   PROCEDURE    X-LIF

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Betty, Community Member
12/25/10 10:23am

It is now near the end of 2010 and i was just wondering if you went with the laser procedure. I was researching this for my husband and there is a place in TO now and was wondering what it was like. We are considering going to the one in Pittsburg PA. 

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kevin markowski, Community Member
4/10/11 9:56am

hi  i went to the bonati institute in hudson fl 40mi from tampa its the founder

of this surgery

ph #  is 727086809563

the best place to go .

 

kevin @ 306 883 3040 spiritwood sask. canada

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alan, Community Member
4/15/11 12:22pm

i   can    share  a  lot  of  information   with  you   about  LSI_tampa

 

send  me   e-mail  with  your  phone  #  &  i   will   call

 

aberkov@tampabay.rr.com

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Marijean, Community Member
6/26/11 11:59pm

Hi....I want to tell you that I live in FL.  I heard abou Lazer spine Institute in Tampa.  My husband had 4 back surgeries previously.  They were all invasive and he has rods from L4, L5 and S1.  now l3 is going and he is in terrific pain.  So bad that we were  up every night every 2 hours with hot packs.  We heard of Lazer Spine in Tampa and got an appt and went up.  Verry very professional and they accepted my hubby after seeing the mri's he had.  They said that medicare would pay for the surgery and dr but not the surgical suite and it would cost him $17,000 out of pocket.  He was so desperate he was willing to do this.  however a week later they called and cancelled because after reviewing his records found out he has MRSA from a surgery on his back two years ago.  We were so overwhelmed since down here they wanted to go into the former back surgery open him up again and remove old rods and redo the entire thing which could cause him to have an open wound.  Anyway we heard about Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan, NY.  To make a long story short, went up for evaluation and they had no problem with MRSA and they did accept insurance...no out of pocket expense except flight and hotel.  Dr Russel Whang....let me tell you they did minimally invasive surgery and he was there 5 days and home....my husband is a new man and planning on marching in the 4th of July parads for the Marine group and we are going to dance at our christmas paty at our club this year.  What a blessing we received...a new  man and a new life.  Get onto Hospita For Special Surgery in NYC....check it out....we have our life back...God bless you

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MGR, Community Member
2/21/12 12:53pm

Just wondering what your outcome was? Did you have the laser & why you would not have gone with "Minimially Invasive" which is offered here in Canada.  My father will travel to New Brunswick shortly to do the endoscopic surgery and I was curious why you didn't take that route.  Please contact me direct @ mrowsell@nl.rogers.com

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guy, Community Member
2/27/12 5:26pm

please look over all your options as i thought i ran out to,i had insurance and had l5 and c5 two surgeries done at lsi and have insurance that was billed over 60,000 god only knows what would be of me if i had payed any potion out of my pocket,my problem in my neck was no problem compared to the problems i was give,pain is 3 times worse and headaches that wont stop,and days after the procedure they recommended an epidural for the unbarible pain i was in,not to mention to flights back to florida and a loss of a job,god help you with your pain as i know how it feels first hand and if i can be of any help in what they did to me and how to protect yourself i am more than willing,wish i would have done what your doing now,

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musicloverhoney, Community Member
1/26/14 12:38pm

My mother made the mistake of having two fusions in her lower back by a surgeon that treats her like a file folder.  The skin and tissues of her back are grossly mishapen now from his obvious lack of care and she has just as much pain as before the surgeries.  To top that off, they don't tell you that having rods implanted into your back alters the shape of your spine and that, as a result, you will likely need further surgeries eventually.  In some extreme cases, I'm sure this is beneficial, but I can't see that being the case for someone with mild degenerative deformities. 

This is why I am interested in the laser surgeries for myself.  However, I have found through my own personal experience that there are at least as many doctors, if not more, who are "in it" for the cash as those who genuinely want to help their fellow man.  You can pretty much be assured that a facility which spends massive amounts of money on advertising directly to the public won't give a rat's behind about your quality of life or your future.


Read the article at this link for a heaping helping of proof that LSI is just in it for profit.

People today seem to be (as a whole) a different breed than those who were in our place about 75-100 years ago.  The chances of finding doctors whose primary purpose in life is to help their fellow man are evidently slim and the evidence lies in places like LSI.  This is also further demonstrated in the fact that the number of Pediatricians and Primary Care Physicians is dwindling (in the US) to the point that we're about to experience a shortage of both.  You now can have much (if not all) of your student loans taken care of by the federal government if you agree to study and work in either field.  Going into medicine without a "specialty" apparently just doesn't line the pockets deeply enough.  Money mouth Frown

**I'm not implying that all medial specialists are shallow @$$holes.**

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