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Saturday, October 18, 2008 thedomesticgoddess, Community Member, asks

Q: can you take painkillers for years?

After 4 months of intense pain, my doctor finally clues in enough to order a cat scan, which I had to wait for 4 months to get, all the while I am on painkillers.  After being told by the specialist surgeon that he is reluctant to do surgery on me as it involves a specific nerve, which could very well leave me paralyzed if touched or moved the wrong way = I find myself literally living according to my pain medication.  How do people live with painkillers for a long time?

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cindi, Community Member
2/16/09 10:49am

hi, i have been taking pain meds for over 3 years, some i din't like because i felt like a zombie..or maybe it was the dosage 150mg. fentanyl ppatch and 180mg oxycontin 2x daily, i didn't like my way of life, i have 4 kiddos and all i did was lay in bed, i took myself off the oxycontin< DON"T EVER DO THIS, i thought i was going to die, now they have me taking 50mg.fentanyl and 1 yes 1 vicodin a day, this does absolutely nothing,  keep to your prescription, even tho it may feel you need more, talk to your doc, i know this probably didn't help you at all, but your answers did (thank you) because after taking pian meds for 3 years , i have this feeling i will probably be taking them for the rest of my life, but if it helps with your quality of life..take them! cindi

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greenie, Community Member
10/18/08 11:00pm

Hi.. so sorry about ur constant pain..i think people just meidcate around life and pain. Especially if your a mom. A dad also, but moms,ya know ;)  .. Im sorry i wanst alot of help. It was really just my opinion. Yes, people do actually take painkileers for years too..and they get stronger ones every year...its a lose-lose situation really =(

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cfhmom, Community Member
1/18/10 1:44pm

H,

I have had chronic pain for approx 5-6yrs. No one can find the reason why and no one wants to write out the requisition for a MRI. Slowly over 2yrs they changed my meds, unfortuately I have what they call a "sensitive brain," which means I cannot take alot of medications. For instance the only one that helped with my pain was Amitryptaline, at a high dose it took my pain away but then the reaction came. My eyes swelled up and got sores all around them, it is one  of the 2% reactions. Then the pain clinic came into my life; a load of narcotics and a discussion of proper use and addiction problems. I have been taking oxycontin and perks for 5 yrs. It took one year to adjust my meds but I have not gone up. I did try the patch to alernate but it turned me into a zombie. I live now as a normal high functioning person. I wish I could get off them but youhave to choose between pain and meds. I am going to try to ween off just to see(which is how I found this site). But if the pain comes back...Just keep checking your liver and Kidneys. Once you have been on it for awhile you should not feel stoned, if you do you are taking too much.

Good luck and forgive me my spelling mistakes(:

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schoolgirl, Community Member
4/ 2/12 12:50am

my husband and i both have been on pain killers for fifteen years. It started from a car wreak. but once we got over this some you know we went to physcial therpay and i felt like i had the flu everyday for about three months i hurt so bad all over my body. i knew it was not the flu. it was summer time and also you could just tell it was not flu so i went to my doctor and he touched me in about eighteen places and then said you have fibromylagia. and there is nothing i can do for you we dont know what causes it or how to treat it. So i went home and did my homework and found a doctor who specialized in fibromylagia and he put me on pain killers, muscle relaxers. thur the years they have gotton stronger so as to kill the pain. well three years ago i was walking at work from one buildfing to a nother and a car hit me. more pain. i worrie that all these medications are hurting my kidneys and liver. thanks for reading i wish i could help all of  you that are in pain . I best thing we all can do is pray for each other. thank you

 

 

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Bebe718, Community Member
7/28/12 12:31pm
Why would none of these dr.s actually order an MRI? This is the only test that discovered the extent of my injuries. Do you not have insurance? Because I was told each MRI cost about $10,000 maybe that is the reason? Seems to me if that is not the case you need to find a dr who will order the right tests/scans and whom will look into all possibilities of treatment and what's wrong with you. If phd's or MD's are not doing all they can I would suggest fining a DO a dr who is more holistic they tend to care more, be more interested in you, and do not like to immediately jump to prescriptions as a remedy. I wish you luck and patience to go through the warped medical system to actually find someone who can help. I've been through it, drs telling me they were just "tension headaches" or being treated like a drug seeker, or that we all have back pain, turns out MRI found bulging disc that was conpressing spinal cord and nerves. Try for a full diagnosis! Good luck. Reply
RockOnTed, Community Member
12/31/12 6:54am

Sounds like you may have "The Cotreversal Condition of Chronic Lyme Disease (CLD), ex Stage 3, also known as Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb).", A CD-57 will confirm this via Lab Corps of America? Web = https://www.labcorp.com/wps/portal/  and FYI http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=552&Itemid=27   For I had the Bullsye Rash on my RT Rib Cage, under the arm in 2003, my Primary Doctor dissmissed it off as a spider bite and told me to not worry, and boy did I get sick, yes, I was Diagnosed with CLD, Stage 3, it had already invaded my Brain via the blood flow in through the Brain Stem, and I am now Dissabled and fighting Doctors all the time, as to try and rid myself of this paresite, and constant battle to obtain pain medication? It is very painfull, but its all about the new USA anti-Narcotic motion anitiated by the large Medical Facilities, ex: Mayo Foundation? Good Luck, Sincerely Annonomis

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toneo, Community Member
12/31/13 9:36am

i have been on pain pills for 20 years and i am not hooked!Greenie your spew is spoken like one who never had to deal with dibilitating pain i wish you could feel my pain for a day you would be gulping every pill you could get mista know it all.

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Roberoo, Community Member
10/19/08 2:17am

 In that chronic intractable pain has no cure by definition and doesn't go away but often is progressive and degenerative, it needs to be treated.

Pain kills, and the fact that untreated pain can quickly ruin a marriage, cause loss of job, self-esteem, involve a doubting partner, and kids who deserve a healthy, vibrant, and interested parent, pressure from all directions is directed at the chronic intractable

pain patient.

 

 Pain medication can be part of a multi-faceted treatment plan and there are many people who have taken pain meds for years with-out complications and have for the last

4000 years. I have taken the same pain med and the same amount for 9 years.

One way to minimize tolerance is to rotate opioids but you will need a MD who is familiar with conversions and willing to work with you as it may take a little while to find the correct dosage of another opioid.

Those who self-medicate, and live by the code that if one is good two is better will not do well on opioids. Most of the people I know who have been on opioids for over 3 years have acclimated to a drug/dose that works for them and are also in PT, exercise,

bio-feedback, counseling, groups or group therapy for support, in other words an active pursuit of all things that help reduce pain. Opioids alone are not the answer

but with a program designed to keep the patients active, involved, and learning about their pain opioids have their place.

Use is taking pain meds by prescription from an MD, following the directions, and getting proactive about your pain.

Addiction is self-medication, no program or use via directions,  just keeping the drug coming and increasing at any cost.

 

Use can give you your life back

Abuse WILL tear your life apart

 

Roberoo

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TBA111, Community Member
8/16/09 1:36pm

I relate 100% to what you say about the disappointed children, family doubting and everything else; but how can you rotate from a drug like oxycontin 20 mg 3x / day.  Morphine isn't strong enough, and I cannot think of any other alternatives to avoid the onset of tolerance you spoke of that is stronger than oxycontin?  Do you have any advice?

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Paramagic, Community Member
4/ 7/11 11:06pm

Have you read that when you take pain meds, your body STOPS producing it's own morphine like substances. So, when you taper off these strong meds, you will hurt more, but then your body awakes it's own pain relief system....then you feel better. Your body has stopped working properly to combat the pain cycles. Ask your doctor if you can have a trial period of 10mg 3x a day with 5mg for breakthrough periods. After a few months, you may be surprised to find that you may be able to taper down to 10mg 2x a day (one every 12 hours) with 5 mg for mid day break throughs. then 5mg 3x's a day. Then hopefully only 5mg 2 x's a day.....see this is the easiest way to taper down and not suffer the effects of rapid withdrawl. I know this....because I am doing it. These drugs help you be active, but not without cost. It changes who you are. We have to come to an "acceptance" of our new limitations. Simplify your life. Surround yourself with kind people and let go of the old you. You don't think you can....I assure you, it won't be easy. But anything worth while, always takes effort and perseverance.

Good Luck!

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Paramagic, Community Member
4/ 7/11 11:39pm

PS: I've taken these heavy drugs for years. The more you increase the dose....the more you will need. In the mean time, you are possibly causing long term permanent nerve damage because you can't "feel" the damage being done.

 

Dr. Wayne Dyer says; "Simplify....simplify.....simplify your life."  I agree.

 

Don't push yourself. Be kind to yourself. meditate. pray.

Type A personalities- Let go of who you "used" to be. You are not wonder-woman or superman anymore.

Take what meds you need to just stay on your feet, but learn to set limits with others demands on your energy. Go to a park, lake, ocean or forest and just breathe.....

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
4/16/12 7:39am

Thanks, Great post! Type A is what I am, or used to be! I worked myself half to death with 12 hour shifts and being a single Mom of two. Nothing I ever did was moderate and excercise for me was climbing a 4,000 ft mountain on my days off! You are so right about letting the past go. Sometimes I think God intervened and gave me chronic pain to save my life. It certainly slowed me down and made me become unable to do the things I once could. I can only work two hours a day now and then need a break and it feels weird to be this slow but it is exactly what I needed. The pain broke me down and made me re-evaluate what life is all about. I am not a machine and did not realize that until it was almost to late. To grab the ultimate high by running my body ragged hiking and working too many hours my joints are shot and I have Osteo Arthritis. I wanted to have it all and was not afraid to work hard for it but in the end life is not about money or things but in moments of peace and beauty. I can take a walk around the block and there is beauty enough to rival what I saw looking down from a 4000 ft. peak. I just need to relax and open my eyes. Life isn't a race!

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jcop, Community Member
5/22/12 3:31pm

God does not intend either one of us to be in pain. "Our father Lord in heaven" jumping to the point of this prayer. Our Father in heaven,             hallowed be your name.             Your   Kingdom come,             your will be done,             on earth as in heaven. This is literal. Isaiah 53 He (meaning Jesus Christ). He was bruised for our iniquities and by His stipes (the whipping He indured 39 of them) We are Healed.  And if you have prayed and believed for a miraculous healing and have not received yet. Remember blessed are those who wait up on the Lord. Isaiah 30 V18. We can not rush God. You keep believing and do not waiver back and forth as in believing and then what the Bible calls (Double mindedness) saying well maybe God doesnot  intend to heal me now. This must not happen ever when you pray. Faith comes by hearing and Hearing by the word of God.

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans ch. 10 VS 17. When you have true faith and you believe for God to answer you - you must ask and believe as if it has already occurred.

Mark 11:22-24

22 So Jesus answered and said to them, “Have faith in God. 23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ ( and does not doubt) in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. 24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.”  (me) Of course your prayer must have unselfish intentions. I try to live by these things the best I can. Keep believing induldge yourself in Gods amazing treasures of His Word.  I have much to learn still and forever learning Gods ways other than my own. Most of all; God never ever wants you sick or in bondage with anything that causes you harm.  Things that happen bad are not brought on by God but either by wrong choices including sin or by Satan because we open doors to him sometimes without even realizing we are.  You are not ever cursed because Jesus Christ died and bored any curse or sin we have committed by His precious blood But if you love Him trust Him believe Him and you profess that He  is Lord and Savior you are saved by Gods love and Grace. I truley hope this helps you. Believe this I need all the prayer and help I can get. God always comes through. I too must wait up on the Lord  for answers.

 

Love always in Christ Jesus,

Jim C.

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
5/23/12 7:30am

Thank you Jim! I forget sometimes who is large and in charge! God, Not me... No God does not want any of us to suffer like he did. I need to pray for the faith to believe I can be healed. In his time not mine. It seems that my faith has suffered from being in chronic pain. Sometimes the pain is all I can think about because it hurts and blocks everything else out. I have a friend who brought me to her church and had a man pray over me to cast out demons but it did not help. I go to my church when I can make it. Mostly I just pray to carry my cross with dignity like Jesus did. GodBless you!

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davelarry, Community Member
1/23/14 11:46pm

I can read sbout anything but I was rsised in church.I have listened to that CRAP my entire life.God or Jesus Christ is just an excuse.It makes more sense to say good luck.If your not happy about something then change it.Dont pray dont complain dont even talk about it just do it.When you change your circumstances change.Good for good bad for bad.I do take lortabs.Im not prescribed anything.I took them to relax in the beginning. Then to get moving.Then to deal with ppl.Sometimes they hit good and I like it.Sometime they dont.Sometimes I get tired of spending all this money on them and stop for a while.Even if you stop for a few days.You realize you CAN do it.You are in charge.Not the pill.Not "God".YOU .And if you decide you need a break after a day or 2 take a little peice.Itll hit like a ton of bricks.I mean its your life.It all comes down to just doing whatever it is that you know needs to be done.You dont need a bible or someone else to tell you right and wrong at this point.You know right from wrong.Do the the right thing and youll feel good about yourself.And luck will favor you.Its called law of attraction.Bad things will happen now and again.But if you do good you will recieve good in return.I hope the best for us all guys.I love you.BIG BEAR HUG.Sorry if Ive offended anybody.

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jcop, Community Member
5/22/12 3:31pm

God does not intend either one of us to be in pain. "Our father Lord in heaven" jumping to the point of this prayer. Our Father in heaven,             hallowed be your name.             Your   Kingdom come,             your will be done,             on earth as in heaven. This is literal. Isaiah 53 He (meaning Jesus Christ). He was bruised for our iniquities and by His stipes (the whipping He indured 39 of them) We are Healed.  And if you have prayed and believed for a miraculous healing and have not received yet. Remember blessed are those who wait up on the Lord. Isaiah 30 V18. We can not rush God. You keep believing and do not waiver back and forth as in believing and then what the Bible calls (Double mindedness) saying well maybe God doesnot  intend to heal me now. This must not happen ever when you pray. Faith comes by hearing and Hearing by the word of God.

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans ch. 10 VS 17. When you have true faith and you believe for God to answer you - you must ask and believe as if it has already occurred.

Mark 11:22-24

22 So Jesus answered and said to them, “Have faith in God. 23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ ( and does not doubt) in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. 24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.”  (me) Of course your prayer must have unselfish intentions. I try to live by these things the best I can. Keep believing induldge yourself in Gods amazing treasures of His Word.  I have much to learn still and forever learning Gods ways other than my own. Most of all; God never ever wants you sick or in bondage with anything that causes you harm.  Things that happen bad are not brought on by God but either by wrong choices including sin or by Satan because we open doors to him sometimes without even realizing we are.  You are not ever cursed because Jesus Christ died and bored any curse or sin we have committed by His precious blood But if you love Him trust Him believe Him and you profess that He  is Lord and Savior you are saved by Gods love and Grace. I truley hope this helps you. Believe this I need all the prayer and help I can get. God always comes through. I too must wait up on the Lord  for answers.

 

Love always in Christ Jesus,

Jim C.

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jcop, Community Member
5/22/12 3:31pm

God does not intend either one of us to be in pain. "Our father Lord in heaven" jumping to the point of this prayer. Our Father in heaven,             hallowed be your name.             Your   Kingdom come,             your will be done,             on earth as in heaven. This is literal. Isaiah 53 He (meaning Jesus Christ). He was bruised for our iniquities and by His stipes (the whipping He indured 39 of them) We are Healed.  And if you have prayed and believed for a miraculous healing and have not received yet. Remember blessed are those who wait up on the Lord. Isaiah 30 V18. We can not rush God. You keep believing and do not waiver back and forth as in believing and then what the Bible calls (Double mindedness) saying well maybe God doesnot  intend to heal me now. This must not happen ever when you pray. Faith comes by hearing and Hearing by the word of God.

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans ch. 10 VS 17. When you have true faith and you believe for God to answer you - you must ask and believe as if it has already occurred.

Mark 11:22-24

22 So Jesus answered and said to them, “Have faith in God. 23 For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ ( and does not doubt) in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. 24 Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.”  (me) Of course your prayer must have unselfish intentions. I try to live by these things the best I can. Keep believing induldge yourself in Gods amazing treasures of His Word.  I have much to learn still and forever learning Gods ways other than my own. Most of all; God never ever wants you sick or in bondage with anything that causes you harm.  Things that happen bad are not brought on by God but either by wrong choices including sin or by Satan because we open doors to him sometimes without even realizing we are.  You are not ever cursed because Jesus Christ died and bored any curse or sin we have committed by His precious blood But if you love Him trust Him believe Him and you profess that He  is Lord and Savior you are saved by Gods love and Grace. I truley hope this helps you. Believe this I need all the prayer and help I can get. God always comes through. I too must wait up on the Lord  for answers.

 

Love always in Christ Jesus,

Jim C.

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
4/16/12 7:39am

Thanks, Great post! Type A is what I am, or used to be! I worked myself half to death with 12 hour shifts and being a single Mom of two. Nothing I ever did was moderate and excercise for me was climbing a 4,000 ft mountain on my days off! You are so right about letting the past go. Sometimes I think God intervened and gave me chronic pain to save my life. It certainly slowed me down and made me become unable to do the things I once could. I can only work two hours a day now and then need a break and it feels weird to be this slow but it is exactly what I needed. The pain broke me down and made me re-evaluate what life is all about. I am not a machine and did not realize that until it was almost to late. To grab the ultimate high by running my body ragged hiking and working too many hours my joints are shot and I have Osteo Arthritis. I wanted to have it all and was not afraid to work hard for it but in the end life is not about money or things but in moments of peace and beauty. I can take a walk around the block and there is beauty enough to rival what I saw looking down from a 4000 ft. peak. I just need to relax and open my eyes. Life isn't a race!

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Parfie, Community Member
4/15/12 5:37pm
I have been on pain Meds for over 13 years now. It's sad to say that, and I feel shame and embarrassment not because I abuse, which I do not abuse...in fact doc's are discovering that people who are in REAL PAIN are far less likely to abuse. It's the med Seeker that are doc shopping, that give those of us taking as scribed, putting us in a bad light, IMO. As far as your question goes, is there anything stronger than morphine? Well that depends on your body? Have you tried Methadone? People shy away from this particular drug, because of it's primary use as the "heron substitute". I am allergic to it, but before I was, it was great...felt like I could drive, no stoned feeling (usually when you try a new med, regardless of tolerance people tend to feel a little high for the first 3-7 days). It is a great drug, but many are allergic. I think that people need to understand a couple of things: morophine is an extended release tablet. OxyContin is extended release as well, however Oxycodone is IR which means immediate release. What dosage of Morophine are you on? Fentanyl is a med that is used in what hospitals call "conscious sedation" and is usually mixed with versette (don't think that spelling is correct), which is designed to make you forget anything you might wake up and see or hear. I know that approximately 1 in 200 can remember even when the "forget drug" is used. How do I know this? I'm the 1 in 200, and I remember everything if I wake up. So what I am saying is that if morophine isn't working for you, and you are on max dosages of oxy and Morophine, my suggestion is to either use fentanyl and maybe the highest dose of Norco (Vicodin), and I think that dosage is like 100-200mg per pill. By the way, if you have taken loritab, loricett ets.. Which are all Vicodin, but with huge amounts of Tylenol. Norco was created so that the Tylenol would be much lower per pill. Example: loritab 10/750 APAP is how it would read on your bottle. That means you are getting 10 mg of Vicodin, and 750 mgs of Tylenol. Norco looks like this on a script bottle: 10/325APAP again, still getting 10 mgs of the Vicodin, but only 325 mgs of Tylenol. Considering that the limit of Tylenol is 4000 mgs per day, the Loritab meant you could take only 5 a day. Norco you could take 12 per day. ******** PLEASE NOTE: TYLENOL IS VERY HARD ON YOUR LIVER, AND LET'S SAY YOU TAKE MEDS WITH TYLENOL EVERY DAY, BE CLEAR - YOU ARE *** MORE LIKELY TO DIE OF LIVER FAILURE IF YOU GO PAST AND/OR FLIRT WITH THAT LIMIT **** AS A REGULAR USER, THAN IF SOMEONE POPPED TOO MANY FOR THE MIGRAINE THEY ARE TRYING TO FIX GOING OVER THAT LIMIT! Long term Tylenol users can end up with cirrhosis of the liver, that can mimic the damage of a long term alcoholic. No one (I don't think) wants to willingly live their lives by watching the clock for our next dose, but if we can't function at all without them, quality of life is better to have, by taking them than not. I was trained as a medical assistant 25 years ago - medicine fascinates me, so I read all that I can to keep up. AnywY I hope this post helps you, and someone else if I'm lucky! Reply
Sarah, Community Member
11/ 9/09 3:36pm

Yes in fact I have taken pain killers for a year and a half.  I've also taken them as they prescribe on the bottle.  If you don't and you tend to over dose or take two when it only tells you to take 1 every six to eight hours then you will become addicted.  Of course if that certain pain med isn't relieving your pain then you might want to think about getting something different until your pain is tolerable.  Also exercise is a helpful way to get rid of pain believe it or not.  And for me other therapies such as nerve blocks has helped.  I've stopped my pain killers since then because the pain was managable without them.

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tami, Community Member
8/17/11 8:11pm

I'm having a hard time with my medication.  It put up a good fight to stay away from Opiates until depression set in, in which was worse on me.  I started taking ms contin 30mg 3 times a day with the liq. morphine for breakthrough.  After 6 yrs and working my way up to that I begin to feel so tired and in more pain.  I recently changed over to Oxycontin 40mg twice a day.  I couldn't believe the difference in my pain level and mood.  The sad thing is after 6 mon.  I started to notice it was only lasting 5 hrs.  He gave me a 30 mg for breakthrough along with the liq. morphine.  It's been 2 mon. and I'm dragging again with no energy at all.  Just lay around and no energy to even lift my hands to eat???I'm so puzzled.  Does it mean it's to much or not enough?? Maybe I should go back to the morphine?  It's hard living with chronic pain.  I have arachnoiditis from scared tissue and nerve damage for 2 failed back surgery.  There is a big difference taking pain meds for that and getting additcted.  It does give you some quality of live though because if it's not under control, depression will surley set in.  I wish you luck and symptize with you.

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Daniel, Community Member
1/ 8/13 12:26pm

I got hurt at my job in may and still out of work.  Im in so much pain i cant think right or try to do things on a daily basis.  I have asked for pain meds but it just seems that the docs wont help me.  Can anybody tell me how or what to tell the docs so they will help me with putting me on pain meds.  I just cant stand the pain anymore.

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cfol44, Community Member
10/23/08 4:34am

I have been on them for over 10 years straight. I have no problems at all taking them and they do the job they are made to do. But large WARNING!!!! yOUR BODY DOES BECOME ADDICTED TO THEM IN TH FIRST 6-8 WEEKS OF TAKING THEM!!!! DO NOT JUST STOP TAKING THEM COLD TURKEY IF YOU FIGURE YOU DONT NEED THE PILL BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HURT MUCH, IF YOU TAKE THEM AROUNF THE CLOCK FOR THE LAST 4 MONTHS, YOU ARE DEPENDENT ON THE OPIOD PILL. SO, YES I HAVE TAKEN ALL SORTS OFF PAIN KILLERS, AND IM ON A COMBO TODAY THAT I HAVE BEEN ON FOR OVER 3 YEARS, I HAVE HAD T MAKE VERY FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MEDICATIONS DURING THAT TIME, AND I LIVE AS GOOD AS I CAN. NO DRUGGEE FEELING, NO HIGH, IT JUST TAKES CARE OF THE PAIN LIKE THEY ARE MADE TO. BUT, LIKE I SAID DONT ABUSE THEM, TELL YUR DR EVERY TIME THEY ARE NOT DOING THE JOB SO THEY KNOW THE DOSES YOU ARE TAKING, AND JUST USE THEM THE WAY YOU ARE TOLD TO AND THINGS ARE GOING TO BE OK. IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO KICK THE PILLS, IF YOU DO GET OFF THEM OR DO NOT NEED THEM. AND ANTHER THING, THEY ARE MUCH BETTER HEALTH WISE THEN THE ANSAIDS THEY ALL TRY TO MAKE YOU TAKE AT FIRST. THOSE ARE GOING TO KILL YOU MUCH FAST THEM THE NARC PILL ARE. THAT IS A FACT. LOOK AT ALL THE SPORTS FIGURES THAT HAVE KIDNEY FAILURE BECAUSE OF TAKING THOSE NSAIDS,(MOTRIN,NAPESON) THSE KILL YOUR STOMACH AND SHUT YOUR LIVER AND KIDNEYS OFF QUICK. SO, HOPE I HELPED AND HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.

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Star Thrower (Nancy), Community Member
10/23/08 6:16am

Yes, you can take painkillers for years. I speak from experience. (Oh, and by the way, I can also speak to your experience of doctors getting a clue... I suffered agonizing pain from September to February, being treated for everything BUT the cause of the pain, which was found to be a tumor in my spine when he finally ordered a CT scan...) It's been 7 years since then. Thank God the tumor proved to be benign, but it left me with nerve damage which causes chronic pain from my back down to my toes.

 

I am not getting the same level of relief that I once did from MS-Contin and hydrocodone, despite steadily larger doses, so I am considering a switch to methadone, which I'm told will give me a better quality of life. It will certainly improve my wallet's quality of life! Methadone is MUCH cheaper.

 

So the bottom line is yes, you can stay on painkillers for years. It may take some juggling to get adequate relief, but it can be done, and new pain drugs are being tested every day.

 

Good luck!

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Susan, Community Member
10/23/08 8:20am

Hello, I have been on hydrocodone/apap for going on four years now.  I take 750 mgs up to four times a day for fibromyalgia, arthritis, and the remnants of a knee injury from being hit by a car.  I recently asked my doc, who I love for finally giving me seious pain meds after years of me living on huge doses of ibuprophen, about upping my dosage.  She reminded me that, while she would if I needed it, that I was going to be on the stuff for a long time, ie. life, and that each time I up the dosage I will be coming closer to the range of too much.  I guess what I mean is that you can be on this stuff for years, but that you must really think about your usage.  I will never want to be without some type of opiate, not because of addiction, but because the quality of my life is so much better now.  I can face the day knowing that there will be times without the debilitating aches and I will be able to function as a mom and wife, and member of the human race.  I went for years, in pain, real pain, unable to function almost at all.  If I forced myself, I paid the price.  I now have a life, not as active as I'd like maybe, but a whole lot better than before the meds.  I hope this helps you with your question.  Peace, Susan

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Star Thrower (Nancy), Community Member
3/ 4/10 8:47am

Susan... You need to find a competent pain management physician or clinic. I can't believe your doctor would allow you to take that much hydrocodone/apap! Not because of the hydrocodone, (although there are BETTER pain drugs!) but because of the amount of "tylenol" you're getting along with it!

 

Actually, I'm a little unclear on the dose of hydrocodone you're taking. The 750 mg you stated is the amount of acetominophen, and 750 X 4 = 3000 mg, which is a hefty dose. There should be another number before it, either a 5 or a 10. That's the amount of opiate in the dose. And if it's only a 5, you should ask your doctor to switch it to a 10/325, because you'd be getting less acetominophen that way.

 

Acetominophen has some SERIOUS side effects in high doses. PLEASE do a little research yourself! You could be doing major damage to your liver in search of pain control. And there are far better drugs available today. Your doctor either doesn't know about them or is unwilling to buck federal and state authorities to prescribe them. I strongly urge you to seek out a pain management clinic. Start TODAY! It could take you some time to find one that's a good "fit". Good luck!

 

Joy, love & light... Nancy

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garyarmy (Gary), Community Member
9/23/13 2:03pm

Nancy, I too am taking hydrocodone daily,10-325 a half a pill 4 times daily, 200mg Celebrex 1 x daily, and 75mg Lyrica 2 pills 1 x daily. My doctor of 18 years said I am going to need them for the rest of my life. I am a disable Army veteran who has had 11 knee surgeries, 2 wrist surgeries, neck surgery, and currently have 2 bulging disk in my neck and 3 in my back. I have arthritis throughout my body in every joint. I should also mention I am only 49, so my concern is long term health, with that said without the meds I would be bed ridden and no life at all. I think after reading your post I will look elsewhere for some advice, meaning you opened my eyes, thank you. While I would never change my 20 years of service I can tell you this Freedom isn't Free, someone has to pay the price.

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grandmak, Community Member
10/23/08 8:44am

I have no answers

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Greta, Community Member
10/23/08 9:23am

My answer is YES since I have been taking them now for 3 + years.

Major back surgery was what they call "failed," leaving me with constant pain.  Nerves involved in the surgery have left me with chronic back pain. I have tried all other means of treating this pain through a pain clinic. 

My pain involves nerves other than those in my back. I had a colostomy 5 years ago and still have my rectum.  It is extrememly painful due to nerve damage. Together, all the nerves involved contribute to my daily pain, (it doesn't effect my sleep and is eventually relieved by lying down). Narcotics have been the only thing that help this pain

So - that is my story about taking pain killers for over 3 years. I started on them even before my back surgey in 2005

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hitechhobo, Community Member
10/23/08 9:29am

I have taken Vicodin for the last 15 years - due to chronic cluster headaches and other pain caused by Multiple Sclerosis - and aside from a period of a year or so back when I first started taking them and foolishly took more than prescribed, double at least - have never had any problem with "addiction" issues with the drug that so many have demonized.

 

There is a difference between addiction and dependence with painkillers however - find a good pain management specialist or doctor with an above average understanding of the workings of these meds, and they will agree that while your body may become "dependent" on the painkillers you do not become addicted to them unless you continue to take them when there is no real pain there for them to combat - in short, if the pain ceases to be a problem don't continue to take the pain meds simply because they make you "feel better".  Dependency on any narcotic is a normal result of extended use - but one that is resolved by simply slowly reducing your intake of whatever narcotic your physician has chosen to prescribe to you.

 

Best of luck to you - and may you one day find permanent relief without the meds - I know I keep hoping.

 

Ron

 

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pamela700, Community Member
10/23/08 9:29am

you absolutely can!

 

i started with 3 then 4 then 6 now almost my whole spine (certainly my whole cervical and thoracic spine) is moderately to severely herniated. this started when i was 33 (i'm 42 now). unfortunately, if you have more than 1-2 bad discs in a row, you're not a candidate for fusion surgery, which is the common procedure to fix this. i did manage to have a cool new procedure called percutaneous disc nucleoplasty, which fixed both the bulging of the worst 2 of my discs and repaired the tears in the disc covering as well - almost instant relief, right on the operating table! but i digress...

 

before finding that miraculous procedure, i was taking first vicodin, then percocet, then oxycontin 10 then 20 then 40 then 80mg plus extra percocets for breakthrough. every day. from 2001 until september of 2005. i had no problems at all, except for extreme sensitivity to heat/cold. no constipation. no liver complications. if you have problems with your liver, you might want to make sure you are given oxycontin sooner rather than later (it doesn't contain tylenol). if you take vicodin or percocet you can ask for the percodan (with motrin instead of tylenol) or the vicodin version with motrin instead of tylenol, i forget what that one is called. there's also roxycodone, which is the active ingredient of percocet and oxycontin, with no additional painkiller (tylenol or motrin) added. i also took flexeril 10mg 2-3 times a day for all of that time, a muscle relaxant, again with no ill effects (although a bit of effect when stopping it cold-turkey - no one told me it might have similar effects to stopping a SSRI type drug!).

 

but anyway, no ill effects! and i was able to sleep through the night, and live with far less pain than i had had.

 

i also know several other people for whom there are no surgical cures to their chronic pain who have taken painkillers for 10-15+ years (mostly migraine sufferers), and they have no other bad side effects from these drugs.

 

don't be afraid of the opioids. they're much safer than street drugs, and people take street drugs in highly unsafe manners, without controlled dosages, for years and years and years. these medecines are very safe if taken as prescribed! don't be afraid to use them.

 

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Paramagic, Community Member
4/ 7/11 11:19pm

you did not mention where you got the miraculous procedure done ?

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Beverly, Community Member
10/23/08 9:39am

I have a morphine pump inserted in my spine so I can't answer that question.

Beverly

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sharon Sampson, Community Member
9/24/11 10:23am

I have been  on pain killers for years for back fusion and fibromyalgia it's got to where it doesnt work and my pain management doctor wants to put a pain pump in do  theywork good all the pain meds keep me s tired I don't feel likke doing anything but I know very little about   pain pumps

 

 

 

                                                                                   Thanks

                                                                             Sharon

 

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Beverly, Community Member
9/24/11 11:30am

Oh yes Sharon, I don't know what i would do with out the pain pump..First it was filled with Morphine and now it is diladed it has really helped me. I also take hydros 750ml about 5 to 6 times a day..I would be in a wheelchair without the pump. It has given me a better quality of live with the pump.

Bev.

 

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Anniemetalgirl, Community Member
10/23/08 9:54am

You can safely take painkillers for years under the care of a doctor who understands how they work and will blood work to make sure your liver is not suffering.

 

Annie

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Alaska_lady, Community Member
10/23/08 11:25am

I have been on pain killers off and on for six years due to a chronic pain condition.I don't think it is the best solution but until they can come up with something else i will continue to be on them.

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totteryfawn9, Community Member
10/23/08 11:47am

I have had chronic pain in back now for seveal years. I have been on vicodin for 4 yrs and fentanyl for about a 1 1/2 years now. So far I seem to be okay.

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nwichlet, Community Member
10/23/08 12:53pm

I myself 52 years old, have been taking heavy duty pain med.'s since the age of 23.  I worry alot about the long term affects, but I have no life without pain med.'s.  I am reduced to a couch potatoe, that would rather sleep than endure pain.  With the pain med.'s I am able to play frisbee with my dog and have a normal life.

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Jo, Community Member
10/23/08 2:00pm

DEAR DOMESTIC GODDESS.I AM NOT SHOUTING BUT I HAVE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH MY EYES AND ALSO I HAVE BEEN  WRITING LIKE I HAVE DYSLEXIIAL.I CAN ONLY TELL YO MY EXPERIENCE.I HAVE BEEH ON PAIKILLERS FOR 10 YEARS.CHECK OUT ALL THE SIDE EFFECTS, FIRST,DOCTORS WILL WANT YOU TO TRY NSAIDS WHICH HAVE PUT ME IN THE HOPITAL E R 6 TIMES.FOLLOW ALL INSTRUCTIONS AND IF YOU GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE PROBLEMS YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL A PHARMACIST .ALSO PLEASE GET REGUALR LVFTS TEST TO MAKE SURE YOUR LIVER IS DOING OK.SORRY THIS IS SHORT BUT MY EYES ARE BAD TODAY....GLAD TO ME YOU.I AM JO

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sun2moon, Community Member
10/23/08 2:46pm

Yes you can take painkillers for years!  After a failed back surgery in January  '05, I

have been on oxycontin, neurontin, muscle relaxers, trazadone for sleep, anti~depressants and norco (for breakthru pain... ha!).  And to tell you the truth,

unless a surgery IS required, I strongly suggest you stick with them. Where a nerve is involved, you must first accept the possibility that the surgery may not go as planned.

I DIDN'T!!Cry

Upon awakening after that surgery I had excrutiating pain~~~ nerve root damage at

L4~5.  The burning was indescribable!!  All the way from my lower back, down my left leg to my ankle.

And the nazi rehab nurse didn't understand why I was so hesitant to walk down the hall and back. Me crying uncontrollably, she still demanded I drag my leg anyway, until my husband demanded she stop.  

Just ten months later I had a second surgery to stabilize my spine, this one being a 3~level fusion(with even more instrumentation) from L~3 thru S~1.  Yes, I finally have a stable back, but the damage suffered in the first surgery is permanent.  I have lost most all of my quad muscle and calf muscle and have to walk with an obvious gait where I must lock my knee to keep from colapsing with every other step. And the pain continues... spine, groin, leg and knee.

Surgery isn't always the answer to pain (especially where a nerve is concerned)!!  Just make sure you do your homework and know and accept the consequenses of a surgical procedure that "might" go amiss.

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Daley Aker, Community Member
10/23/08 4:27pm

Depends on the painkiller, your tolerance and the side effects.

Kidney and liver problems can result from some pain medications,

while narcotics may be safer in that respect, you will most likely build up a tolerance and have to increase the dosage. You will probably develop a dependency, so if you are taking narcotics, try to use the fast-acting type that will clear your system quicker. Do not try to mask a problem by using pain killers! Exhaust all possible reasons for the pain before going that route. I have been on narcotic pain relievers for several years and find that If I take a "drug holiday" for a week or two every once in a while, my tolerance level has stayed fairly stable. It has been shown that most people who have chronic pain do not become addicted. Find a good pain management specialist and follow their advice as closely as possible!

Good luck!

 

 

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jeri, Community Member
10/23/08 5:56pm

I have taken  painkillers for over 13 years.  I do watch the amount that I take and work with my doctor.  Sometimes you just don't have a choice.

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sunshineinthecountry2008, Community Member
10/24/08 1:39am

I would really like to answer that with yes and guess it is somewhat true.  I know after my ordeal of being in an MVA back in 2005 I have not had a day go by without having some kind of pain and taking pain meds since the ordeal.  Although, I have gotten many opinions from so many therapists, family doctors, FNPs, orthopedics, neurologists, pain doctors, spine doctors, etc., all have explained that I shall have to "learn to live with my pain" and either offered pain meds or some type of physical therapy or message therapy.  I have done them all and then some but still end result PAIN!!!  I have three sisters in the medical field, one sister who is a Director of Nursing, other Registered Nurse, and lastly one is a social worker for home health care.  I have also asked this same question to them and also to many of the specialists I have seen and continue to see and as you will learn get different results as to who you are asking.  As with the physical therapist and message therapist they will stand by with hololistic approaches i.e. yoga, lotions, etc., only and no meds and on and on and hey maybe it does work for some but certainly not long-term for myself.  Now back to the question "can you take pain killers for years?  Yes, you can as long as in moderation or by that I mean the least you can take and get by without severe disrupting pain as personally I feel after years of having a foreign substance (pain meds) consistently in your body it would take a toll.  Although the doctors and specialists will also same the same thing that many clients/patients have taken pain meds for years with no problems but each person is different just like one person may get by with smoking for 20 years and the next person may only get by with smoking for 10 years and become debilitated with severe lung illnesses, i.e. COPD, asthma, empysema, and the list goes on.  All in all, not to keep rambling nonstop, I personally have taken pain meds consistently since my MVA for my activities of daily living but have to say I dislike knowing I am dependent on them to get by and yes I do worry about the long-term effects as don't really think medically this question is yet to be honestly known and answered/proven on what pain meds can do long-term or if they do harm other organs on a regular basis of use?  Hope after all this rambling this helped answer your question somewhat.  Good luck in your future health and may you find the help you need.  God Bless. 

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jerry hesch, Community Member
10/24/08 4:18pm

You wrote: "After 4 months of intense pain, my doctor finally clues in enough to order a cat scan, which I had to wait for 4 months to get, all the while I am on painkillers.  After being told by the specialist surgeon that he is reluctant to do surgery on me as it involves a specific nerve, which could..."

 

Is there more to your post? this is all I was able to read. maybe a web glitch?

thank you

jerry

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Bob H, Community Member
10/24/08 4:24pm

I'm not sure what I am supposed to put in this space.  I had back surgery 4 years ago and am still bothered by a pinched nerve.  Fine when sitting or laying down.  Walking or standing for any great length of time is painful.

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jerry hesch, Community Member
10/24/08 4:32pm

OOPS! FOUND THE REST OF IT "very well leave me paralyzed if touched or moved the wrong way = I find myself literally living according to my pain medication.  How do people live with painkillers for a long time?"

I read all the replies. My words below do not address the question you pose directly, but do add something to the topic.

some respondents understand the difference between addiciton and dependency, many, many, many in our society do Not! worth spending time on the topic and some did address it. the very definitions changed in 2002 when a group of specialists from Pain Manaement and Addiciton Medicine got together and hammered out language. I do not have the energy or time to belabor this, except to point in that direction.

for those who must take long term medication it is very helpful to take LONG ACTING/EXTENDED RELEASE more so than SHORT ACTING/IMMEDIATE RELEASE. Much fewer ups and downs will occur as you achieve a steady state amount in your blood stream. I can't elaborate here, but worthy of reading up on and discussing with your doctor.

I hope this is helpful

jerry

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Star Thrower (Nancy), Community Member
3/ 4/10 9:13am

Jerry,

 

You make a very good point. Having pain starts a cycle of both physical and psychological actions that only increases over time, making the pain and its consequences worse and much harder to bring under control, i.e., more medicine is required to do so. Doctors knowledgeable in pain management will tell you it's far better if it never sets in in the first place, and that's what long-acting/continuous release medications do. It takes a few days to build up to a sufficient level, but after that, the chemical cycle that pain begins never gets started. Treating episodic pain, especially if the episodes are weeks or months apart, is different than managing long-term daily intractable pain, and requires a different approach. The goal is to allow the patient the best quality of life with the least pain possible.

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jerry hesch, Community Member
3/ 4/10 10:43am

Well stated! Agree completely.

jerry

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pakas, Community Member
10/26/08 9:58pm

I have Fibromyalgia, RSD, and Pagets Disease and have been taking Methadone for over 18 years for the pain, under my MD's care. Yes there are side effects that one must be aware of with any pain killer, and you're MD should keep you apprised of what they are and do blood tests at least every 6 months to check liver functions and in my case I take an EKG also due to the fact that methadone can have side effects that deal with the heart.

So as long as you remain under a MD'd care and I recommend a specialist in Chronic Pain who is trained in what to look for.

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
4/16/12 6:49am

Pakas, Thanks

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corina, Community Member
11/ 1/08 5:24am

i have been taking pain pills for too many years only to be tired of it. if it were not for my 6 year old sweet little girl i would have done my self in long ago. I AM SO FREAKEN TIRED OF LIVING IN DAILY PAIN AND POPPING PILLS ONLY FOR LITTLE COMFORT. IS THERE NO END TO THIS MADDNESS

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michael foley, Community Member
11/ 2/08 6:19pm

i have permanent nerve damage from a surgeons error in 1984.the only way that i can sleep at all,and function in daily life is to take a long-acting narcotic,methadone each day,and a short-acting breakthrough pain medicine,actiq for the specific times when my activity like sitting,standing,walking,or lifting causes a sharp increase in the debilitating,overwhelming pain that never goes away.i was thirty years old when my pain-free life was stolen by medical malpractice,and most doctors ive seen are quite content to see me suffer,as long as i dont ask them to prescribe painkillers.the simple truth is that im the patient these medicines are made for.it is criminally stupid and supremely insulting not to use medicines that effectively control the terrible pain that im stuck with through no fault of mine.i survived for about eight years without narcotics because i believed the myths about addiction dangers,and not one doctor helped me.it was only when i joined th american pain society and read about their research findings that chronic pain patients are greatly helped by narcotics that my life improved.i had to hand copies of aps reports to a neurologist and ask for prescriptions to get the help that i needed to overcome the damage from one incompetent surgeon and the scores of prejudiced,ignorant,gutless doctors who failed me for all those years.now im happily married and have raised two beautiful children thanks to the american pain society and the growing number of educated doctors who arent afraid to face greedy insurers,hysterical news reporters,and overzealous law enforcers to give patients like me the simple help that we need and deserve.drugs are not the enemy,pain is.pass the word,and good luck with your health care....

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Rena, Community Member
11/ 3/08 4:15am

Hey, I'm a chronic pain suffer due to 6 back surgeries, and 2 fusions with permant nerve damage done to my left leg.  I've been on chronic pain meds going on 9 years now.  But I'm a part of a Pain specialty clinic, and I have to see my doc every month.

We work together to get the most out of my life.

If you have chronic pain, you should be refered to a pain clinic and work with them.

Some people like me are able to get off meds with internal stimulators or pumps.  or other types of treatments.  I'm just locked under the limits of my Labor and industry rules of my state.  So there are  a lot of things we would have done, that would have probably gotten off most of my meds.

God luck.

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karen262299, Community Member
11/10/08 1:34am

Yes, you can.  However, it is not quite that simple.  Your body eventually will develop a need for a larger dose or even a different drug.  I have been on a fentynol patch plus percocet 3 x a day for about six months but befor then, I was on lortab (first 7.5mg then 10 mg for about a year and a half)  However, like most of the people on here, I have also tried non-narcotic remides such as physical therapy and a water aerobics class at the YMCA called "twinges in the hinges" that is geared toward seniors (and at 44 there are MANY days when I feel more like 94!) they both seem to help at least for an hour or two.

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RedNkBearOregon, Community Member
8/26/09 10:41pm

I want so very much to get off them.  But I am in constant pain without them. I am also taking too many at a time, becuase they help my mood.  I can not function properly if I don't.  No other anti-depressant has done a bit of good!!  Why can't they just prescribe them ofr depression?

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Parfie, Community Member
4/15/12 7:30pm
I can relate to your comment, very much. I would like to know what you take that you feel is an anti-depressant also? I'm live in the Bend, OR area so we are both Oregonians. I am not on Norco (Vicodin with a lower Tylenol count) and 2 of my girlfriends agreed with me about the fact that Vicodin has like a kick start effect on me. Once it was in my stomach for about 20 mins, I had a Getty up and go from that. I can't explain it, but we know it's there. My depression is bad... But Soma (carisiprodol) is a WONDERFUL muscle relaxant....you would be hard pressed to find one better.....however it is EXTREMELY depressing and most doc's will not scribe it. My pain doc told me that if I hadn't already been om it, he would have never scribed it. My Rheumy retired his practice 6 years ago and that is how I got hooked up with my current doc that I love! He is awesome! Anyway, I am very interested in which med you think is an antidepressant. Take it easy Reply
DAVID TROUPE, Community Member
12/24/08 10:01am

DEAR DOMESTICGODDESS,

 I AM SORRY FOR ALL YOUR PAIN TAHT YOU HAVE AND IWILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU, BUT A LITTLE INSIGHT TO YOUR QUESTION, I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT ME AND I KNOW THIS WILL HELP YOU, I STARTED ON PAIN KILLERS WHEN I WAS 29 AND I WAS TAKING LORTAB 10MG 4 TIMES A DAY AND WITHIN A YEAR I WAS TAKING 12 DAY AND ON SOME DAYS MORE THAN THAT JUST BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AND COOK FOR MY CHILDREN, AND I STARTED HAVING SURGERIES AND NOW TO DATE I HAVE HAD 13 SURGERIES AND FIXING TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE, BUT BACK TO THE STORY I HAD BEEN TAKING LORTABS FOR 3 YEARS AT HIGH DOESES AS PRESCRIPED BY MY DOCTOR, BUT I HAD MY BLOOD WORK TO COME BACK AND IT WAS SHOWING THAT I WAS HAVING DAMAGE TO MY LIVER SO I HAD SOME TEST RUN AND I HAD LOST 30% OF MY LIVER FUNCTION, SO MY DOCTOR SAID I HAD TO GET AWAY FROM PAIN KILLERS THAT HAD TYLENOL,MOTRIN, OR ASPIRIN IN THEM BECAUSE THIS WAS THE CAUSE OF MY LIVER DAMAGE MAINLY DUE TO THE TYLENOL, SO MY DOCTOR STARTED ME ON METHADONE 10MG, AND BEFORE YOU START THINKING THAT THAT IS A DRUG MAINLY FOR ADDICTS IT IS NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH DOCTORS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORLD IS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT UNTIL YOU SIT DOWN AND RESEARCH THE DRUG AS I DID ONLY THEN WILL YOU KNOW THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT THE DRUG, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE STARTED USING IN THE U.S. FOR CHRONIC PAIN AND FOR POST OP SURGERY NOT FOR DRUG ADDICTS, BUT NOW TODAY I HAVE BEEN TAKING METHADONE FOR 4 YEARS AND I HAVE TAKEN THE SAME DOSAGE WITH NO INCREASES IN THE AMOUNT, AND AS LONG AS YOU ARE TAKING THE MEDS. FOR PAIN I MEAN IF YOU REALLY HURT WITH PAIN THS WILL HELP YOU AND IT WILL GIVE YOUR LIFE BACK TO YOU, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY DRUG ADDICTS OUT THERE THAT GO TO DOCTORS AND SAY OH I AM HURTING HERE, I CANT LIVE WITH THIS PAIN, I CANT SLEEP, AND THE DOCTOR GIVES THEM A PAIN KILLER AND ALL THAT IS DOING IS SUPPLYING ONE OF TWO THINGS THERE DRUG HABIT, OR THE HABIT TO SELL THE DRUGS ON THE STREET TO OTHER ADDICTS, AND THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE LIKE US TO GET GOOD CARE FROM OUR DOCTORS BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO DONT NEED THE MEDS. AND ABUSE THEM SO IT MAKES DOCTORS NOT WHAT TO GIVE OUT ANY GOOD MEDS. FOR THE ONES OF US THAT REALLY DO HURT WE HAVE TO GO THRU ALOT OF CRAP BEFORE WE GET WHAT WE NEED OR WHAT WORKS, BUT AS FAR AS LIVING WITH TAKING PAIN KILLERS, ITS MY OPINION THAT AS LONG AS THE MED. THAT YOUR TAKING DOESNT HAVE TYLENOL OR MOTRIN IN IT THEN YOU WILL BE OK, IT WILL NOT HURT, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU TRY METHADONE 10MG TAKING 60 TO 80 MG A DAY AND TAKE IT FOR 2 WEEKS AND I PROMISE YOU ALL YOUR PAIN WILL BE GONE, IT TAKES METHADONE ABOUT 4 DAYS AFTER TAKING IT TO START TAKING CARE OF ALL YOUR PAIN, AS FAR AS ROXYCODONE I WOULD STAY AWAY FROM THAT UNLESS YOU WHAT TO GET ADDICTED TO THAT IN A WAY THAT YOU WILL HAVE A BIG PROBLEM GETTING OFF THEM IF YOU NEED TO, WITH METHADONE YES YOU WILL GET ADDICTED TO THEM AND YOU JUST CANT QUIT TAKING THEM ALL THE SUDDEN BUT YOU CAN COME DOWN OFF IT ALOT EASIER THAN YOU CAN ALL THE OTHER DRUGS OUT THERE, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH METHADONE IS THAT IT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1938 AND IT IS A OLD DRUG AND ALOT OF DOCTORS DONT WANT TO GIVE OUT A OLD DRUG THEY GET PAID TO GIVE OUT THE NEWER DRUGS AND THAT IS A SIMPLE FACT.YOU HAVE 2 CHOICES IN YOUR LIFE 1. LIVE WITH YOUR PAIN AND GET ADDICTED TO PAIN AND HURT EVERYDAY OF YOUR LIFE, OR 2. TAKE MEDS. FOR YOUR PAIN AND BE ADDICTTED TO THE PAIN KILLERS AND NOT HURT OR HAVE NO PAIN IN YOUR LIFE AND ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS TAKING YOUR MEDS. AND GETTING TO YOUR DOCTOR ONCE AMONTH TO GET YOUR MEDS. REFILLED, SO YOU CAN GET ADDICTED TO PAIN WHICH I DONT THINK YOU WISH TO DO THAT  OR TAKE THE PAIN KILLERS AND MAKE SURE THEY DONT HAVE TYLENOL OR MOTRIN IN THEM AND THEY WILL NOT HURT YOU AS FAR HURTING YOUR ORGANS IS CONCERNED, JUST TAKE YOUR MEDS AND YOU WILL BE OK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT THIS MORE I WOULD BE MORE THAN GLAD TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS ONE THING I DO, IS I AM A INTERVENOLIST AND ALL I DO IS HELP PEOPLE FIND THE RIGHT DRUGS FOR THERE NEEDS AND THE RIGHT ONE THAT WILL NOT HARM YOU IF YOU TAKE IT FOR MANY YEARS, I HOPE THIS HAS HELPED YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU AND MY GOD BE WITH YOU EVERYDAY.

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dontbenieve, Community Member
12/30/09 3:36pm

Methadone is a long acting drug that goes to your bones!! it does help Chronic pain sufferers, but dont be fooled. Methadone is ONE of the hardest drugs to get off of. MS-Contin and Roxycodone are far easier to kick. Addiction is not an easy thing period, however being one that took 80 mg of Methadone a day, when I got tired of taking them because I was falling asleep and getting messed up it became a problem I had the WORST withdrawls and it took 2 weeks to get out of my system. Now on the flip side, if you only take 20-40 mg a day, and then taper off it is alot easier on you. so there are dangers to any Narcotic that you subject to your body, regardless.  from the sounds of your post, you too may have been addicted. either way, I wish everyone the best and hope that your pain subsides, with whatever treatment you may.

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SpiritedTruthSeeker, Community Member
2/27/09 5:33pm

I find it odd that most people really don't research the things they put in their body, especially man made things such as painkillers.  If one researches, then one can understand easily what to do and what not to do.  I have been on pain meds now for 14 years and will probably take them the rest of my life.  I have 8 herniated discs (four in lower back and 4 in my neck) which at this point, more than one specialist has told me that surgery is not an option.  I also have a broken left clavicle which has been broken since the June of 1996.  I have necrosis of the right talus (ankle bone) as a result of a really bad break from my last car accident in 1995.  This means that the ankle bone is dying because of lack of oxygen to the bone and in the future, the bone could 'just collapse' on me.  There are also various other maladies but those are my major ones.

 

First off, most everyone that I talk to or hear of, is under the extreme misconception that if they take painkillers, that they are going to be 'high'.  Well this is ONLY true if the painkiller you are taking is too strong for the pain that you have OR if you have NO pain and take painkillers.  As long as your dosage is right for the amount and type of pain that you have, the only result of the painkiller will be the absence or reduction of your pain. 

 

How does one take pain medication for a long time you ask.  Well, you just do it, get regular tests to be done on your liver to be sure that it remains the way that it should, watch what other medications (whether prescribed or over the counter) that you take, and take them as directed so that the pain does not have a chance to overpower you before you can get relief.  If you wait too long after the arrival or elevation of pain to take your meds, then the more likely it is that they won't do their job or at the very least not as good of a job.

 

As I stated, I have been taking painkillers regularly now for 14 years and during long periods of other medicals problems/surgeries before the last 14 years.   Painkillers enable me to 'have a life', for without them, I could not do much of anything because of the amount of pain that I experience every day of my life now.  I would not be able to take care of myself, my home or my family without the benefit that I get from painkillers. 

 

There is no question that I am dependant on them but I am not addicted and there is a very big difference as a lot of people in this post have already described very well.  What the 'dependency' means is that if at some point if one want to try and live without painkillers, then they should follow a withdrawals procedure, which basically with pain meds means cutting your dosage in half progressively until you are hardly taking them at all and then stop taking them.  One of the most dangerous aspects of painkillers is not the active opiod ingredient in the meds but rather the acetaminophen which is the main ingredient of tylenol products.  Too much acetaminophen can shut down your liver and kill you.  Basically when monitoring that type of painkiller that is the biggest thing that you have to watch out for is liver damage.

 

I think part of what you are asking is how can someone 'function' if they take painkillers for a long time and without going around 'high' all the time.  The answer to this is to be sure that your meds are aimed correctly to the type and amount of pain that you have.  Then you can take them with a comfortable conscience and enjoy your life as you should be able to.  I know that the quality of my life would be practically nonexistant without relief from at least some of my pain, which is what I achieve by the program that I am using.

 

I hoped this helped and good luck in the future.

 

 

SpiritedTruthSeeker aka janet

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body, Community Member
3/28/10 2:44am

Sorry Janet, but what you say is mis-information.

 

Having to withdrawl slowly is physical addiction.

 

Addiction is when if you stop taking something, you become violently ill.

 

Like what would happen to anyone who regularly takes narcotics or opiates.

 

A physical dependency, is addiction.

 

I have no problem accepting the fact that my body is physically addicted to

 

opiates. That doesn't make me a "bad person" does it?

 

No-it makes me a patient in need of certain type of treatment.

 

I worry when I see efforts to play games with medical information because of

 

moral judgemental reasons.

 

You can take pks for years in answer to the OP, and if you stop, you will be

 

dopesick due to changes in the brain and opiate receptors. I don't know about

 

any other permanent damage.

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Tellene, Community Member
3/ 2/09 4:39pm

I was prescribed 5 mg oxycodone twice daily in 1999 and was up to 5 mg four times daily in 2005 through March 2008. I have built up a tolerance to the oxycodone over the years and was weaned off in March 2008 and put on a medication for Fibromyalgia and I use Medical Marijuana which I prefer to chemicals, Instant relief... Cody

 

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zib, Community Member
3/ 1/10 2:30pm

I've been taking Painkillers since 1996, shortly after I got out of the Navy, and was given First Tylenol 3, Then Darvocet, then some crappy anit inflam, not motrin, then finally Vicodin for chronic left knee pain x 5 surgeries. I also had very bad lower back pain that went mis diagnosed for almost 6 years. The last 6 months I've been on Oxycontion 20mg ER and Dilaudid 4mg for breakthrough. I also had Vicodin 10mg...Prior to the surgery and recently, I started having heart palpatations, Heat Flashes, bloating and elevated blood pressure. It's so wierd and no one can diagnose it. I know I must have a build up of Narcs in my system. The theory is, when I take my meds, they build up to a high level in my system and get releasted together...I only space my Oxy 5 1/2 hours apart. I was doing fine, until these episodes. Now, I'm weaning myself off all painkillers.

When I was in the Hospital, Post Surgercially, they gave Injectable Dilaudid. Since I have such a tolerance, They gave me 3 shots back to back. My BP spiked at 178/128, and my pulse was about 100 or so, if I remember correctly.

Why would someone who's opiod tolerant develop a sensitivity to narcs?

 

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zib, Community Member
3/ 1/10 2:35pm

By the way, It wasn't until I went to Mayo Clinic, that they found the cause of my lower back pain, and fixed it. Never give up. Keep seeing Doctor's until you find the right one. I wake up pain free now and weaning off painkillers. I kind of glad in a way, that I can no longer take them. It makes quitting that much easier....I've been checked out my numerous cardioligists who gave my heart a clean bill of healt, So, if it's not my heart, it has to be the drugs doing it...regardless of what the Doc's say....

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
5/21/11 10:07pm

I think it may be a sensitivity to Vicodin. I also had the same reaction to Hydrocodone after years of taking it. The heart palpitations, feeling anxious and full of anxiety. My doctor switched me off of Hydrocodone to Methadone because my pain is chronic from Fibromyalgia and CFS. My liver scores were not looking good, too much Tylenol I think? He said Methadone is a good pain killer that is long acting and has no Tylenol and is not proceessed through the liver. It does work for my pain and no more anxiety and heart pounding episodes. With Methadone I don't feel anything and no pain, once my body got used to it and I got on Senna and stool softeners. One side effect it has is constipation. Lately I have been having break through pain at the end of my doses and right before the next one. At night I go 8 hours and the pain is bad when I get up. I may ask my doctor about Aqitic or something for breakthrough because as someone else said when the pain gets ahead of us it takes a while to get it working on the pain again.

 

Good Luck with trying to wean off the narcs. I am not looking forward to being on them the rest of my life but until they find a cure for Fibro I'm going to need help.

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Paul, Community Member
12/13/10 3:14am

yes i think you can

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Summer, Community Member
3/16/11 12:49am

Yes you can take pain killers for years. Since I can remember after sitting for long periods of time even when i was little, I had some degree of pain in my lower back. I never thought to much of this because I was a little kid. But after I had my son who is now 5 yrs old I noticed my back pain had increased significantly. I am 25 yrs old and the 2 MRI'S I had showed that I had Degenerative Joint Disease..and that there were  congenital findings..meaning that I was born this way to some degree but it wasnt detected for 20 yrs. I have been taking pain pills for about 4 years. Not because I want to but because if I dont I am in the worse pain of my life. I first started taking Darvocet which did work for awhile because back then my pain wasnt nearly as bad as it is now. Then Oxycodone 5mg which worked too until the doctors around my area counldnt treat me anymore because my pain was considered "chronic". Now I go to a managed pain clinic and I take Avina 45mg one time daily. Avinza is an extended release morphine that has immediate release beads in it that dissolve right away and it has beads in it that dissolve over time which are extended release. I started out taking the 30mg and just was increased to 45. They prescribed me Oxycodone/apap 10/325 and I was taking that for about a year until just recently I had them just prescribe me straight oxycodone because I fear taking the tylenol for long periods of time. My doctors have assured me that the Tylenol i take isnt nearly enough to ruin my liver because the liver can handle nearly a little over 4000 mg/day but I didnt care what they said I didnt want to take it anymore. So taking the oxycodone 10mg by itself and the avinza 45mg daily I feel a lot better knowing that I am not taking tylenol anymore. On average I take between 3-4 oxycodone/day and only one avinza and I seem to do okay. Right now I am in pain but with chronic pain you will have good days and bad days..thats how it is and I know it can always be worse, as there are people that go to the managed pain clinic i go to that are in far worse shape then myself. So the answer is YES you can take pain pills for an extended period of time and be fine...I am in perfect health besides my spine..but that is something I cant help because apparently it was a birth defect and of course I am only 25..but now I feel I can keep up with my son most of the time without pain.

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
8/17/11 11:49pm

Yes you can be on painkillers for life as long as they are not full of Tylenol, motrin or aspirin. My doctor put me on methadone because he said I will need it for my chronic pain for the rest of my life. The other one I was on stopped working and he didn't want me taking that much Tylenol. methadone works for my pain at a low dose. It has less side effects then Vicodin did. It is free with my medicare plan. I am wondering about something. How do you get high off of these drugs? I am in pain and have been on many but mainly they all made me nauseous. I never nodded off or drooled like addicts do. Could it be that the amount that I take to kill my pain is not enough to get me high because I don't act or feel high? I think methadone is a Godsend because my pain was so bad I was thinking of ending it. Now I can manage it and can do things again. I am going to be on it the rest of my life unless they find a cure so I don't care that I'm addicted to it because I don't feel high. If you are feeling high you may want to lower your dose until you stop drooling and nodding. I can't see taking more then what works for my pain and I have not needed an increase. If they find a cure I will wean off of it and any pain from coming off methadone will be a cakewalk compared to how I have suffered over the years. Just take what works for your pain and if you have to take medicine the rest of your life to have some quality of life it's not the worst thing in the world.

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binqx, Community Member
10/27/11 8:10pm

I have a herniated disc and a bad sciatica in my lower leftside so I know how it feels for you to have intense pain and nobody takes you seriously. I am currently taking 6 10/325 mg percocets a day for pain. Ive been on them for about a year now and I can tell you that your tolerance will go up and you will most likely need to increase you dosage after about a year or so. Living with pain sucks very much I know. My Doctor told me today that I will be on pain meds for the rest of my life so I understand your frustration. People will most likely ask you for one or two every now and then but if you take it to much or give any away you will run out early and have to go through withdrawl and believe me that is not fun. I wish you luck and will pray for you. Just remember that Jesus loves you and with his help you WILL get through this... I promise. God bless.

                                                                                            Binqx

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
10/27/11 9:21pm

Thanks Binqx,

 

It seems that eventually they all stop working and need ot be increased. The vicodin helped for a couple of years but it couldn't be increased because of the tylenol in it. Just as well because the Methadone works better and is long acting so the coverage is better. Right now I am having pills left over when I call it in so I must be skipping a dose here and there when I'm busy.

 

What is it with people asking for your pills? I'm in a 12th step program for booze with many years of sobriety and people will still ask  me for pills! I always say no because I'm not their doctor and if something happened to them I would feel terrible. Besides with Methadone you have to get to the right level before the pain goes away so it would not give the desired results. Just side effects.

 

Jesus is kind and merciful! Thanks for the prayers. I wouldn't be able to handle that pain much longer and this medicine has given me back some quality of life.

I can work a couple hours a day helping the elderly. I feel so much better when I can contribute something back.

 

Take Care, Kell

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razzbear25, Community Member
3/12/13 4:25pm

HI IM 29 AND HAVE BEEN ON VICODIN SCENTS 2008 I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CROHNS MY PAIN FEELS LIKE I HAVE SWALLOED BROKEN GLASS. WITH OUT MY PAIN MEDS I COULD NOT LIVE MY LIFE. HOW EVER I WOULD LIKE SOME IN PUT SCENTS I HAVE BEEN ON IT FOR A LONG TIME IS THIER ANY OTHER PAIN MEDS I COULD TAKE SO I DONT GET HOOKED ON THE OR MY BODY GET USED TO THEM LARRISON2266@GMAIL FOR ANY HELP TO THIS QUESTION THANKS. 

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Uberarchangel, Community Member
1/ 8/14 9:31am

I have been on pain killers for 10 years now. I have chronic Kidney Stones and I do mean chronic. It is genetic and there is no fix. Now what you have to realize is if you are in chronic pain you are going to hurt and it is going to suck. Taking out the emotions the pain brings on anyone is not fair. If you let it also the pain will take over your life whether through pills numbing your mind, your emotions, and your body.

 

If you want to LIVE your life follow this:

 

(Always Consult a Doctor First)

 

Pain is only an electrical input to your brain know that. With anything in life it can be ignored to a point. Setting that point is exactly what I am describing in this.

 

Pain meds arn't going to fix your problem they only treat a symptom.  You need to take a weekend and extend the period between the meds so you feel the pain agian. Wear your most comfortable clothes, sit in your favorite chair in your home, put it in a corner facing the corner. Then put a note in front of you that says feel the pain. Get another piece of paper and look up ways to descrie pain etc and put down all the options and a picture of the body front and back so that all you have to do is circle the things. Now have your pain meds ready and get ready this is going to suck. Now do exactly that feel the pain concentrate on it where it comes from and how it feels as the pain meds start to wear off. Remember you are extending the length inbetween doses by like 10-30 mins. It will feel like the longest moment in your life. Then take your meds after that 10-30 min interval. Keep concentrating on the pain feel how the pain meds work how they take  over where it starts at where it relieves it and I mean really concentrate on this. This is going to help your body relieve the right spot and concentrate it in specific location. It will also make you aware of anything else going on extended use of pain meds especially strong ones you will have other pains and other things wrong you never knew because it was being covered up by the meds. Normally its your teeth but.... Then make sure the location etc and the types of pain etc match your diagnosis doctors do make mistakes they are human.

 

Go online and look up the foods that help production of natural pain killers. Cheese and Steak help with this along with a lot of different vegetables.

 

 

What you need to do and I recommend talking with your docotor on how to step down off your pain meds. Slowly changing doses over 1-4weeks between each step down. Your goal is to get down to nothing. Use over the counter pain meds to help in this process. Your goal is to get to nothing. Why step down? I quit cold turkey shook for 3 weeks had mini seizures and it is a fuck ton harder. I couldnt leave my bed and had to watch movies that were violent and bloody to keep my mind off the pain. The other reason is it will allow your body to bump up your pain tolerance. It will take 6months-3yrs before your bodies pain management system to fix the pain. If you have a sudden sharp attack remember you need to have pain meds ready. Or when you have a ridiculously bad day you at work or something is emotionally straining you are going to need those meds but, not in the quantity.

 

Try this if i doesn't work and you tried your hardest I mean your absolute hardest don't give up. Lie to yourself tell yourself it will work. Once you have done that and tried for 3+yrs. Then and only then if it doesn't work you need to do something else. That is cycle the pain killers. Go up to your doctor and tell him you need alternatives. It will keep you from building up a tolerance to the meds. It will keep you from pounding your body into submission. If you can try to cycle between ones that are metabolized by different organs. So kidneys then liver etc. You don't want to pound one organ for tooo long. When switching you need to slowly step down one dose of one and up the dose of the other consult your doctor on this. Talk to your doctor about using alcohol as one of them and if you can in your state weed. Those 2 have been pain killers for your but, make sure you monitor yourself and have someone do it with you a friend a love one etc. Different meds whether natural or pharmicutical will cause you to act differently and you need to be constantly aware of this. If you become depressed or violet etc you need to talk to your doctor asap and get the fuck off of whatever it is and don't stop pressing till they let you in that day.

 

I hope to god that this helps you. Yes, I said God and I live in exscruciating pain every day. I believe there is a reason for everything and sometimes we just don't understand why till we are old and gray or dead.

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NoPainNoGain, Community Member
1/26/14 8:54am

I'm sorry you have chronic pain and sound like you need better coverage with medication. You should not feel like you are waiting in pain for the next dose. I am on a long acting pain medication which keeps me pretty pain free. I am not a zombie either and after 4 years on the same dose it was a good fit for my pain from Fibromyalgia. I don't like the aspect of taking painkillers for life but what is my alternative? No life because of needless suffering... I went through that already and I feel much better now and volunteer a couple hours a day. Try and find pain meds that don't contain Tylenol and have your bloodwork checked twice a year to make sure your liver enzymes are good. Take your medication as prescribed and you won't need more if you are on a long acting painkiller at the correct dosage. If you have children lock up your meds in a safe at all times and Good Luck.

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