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Depression

By WhatToDo Wednesday, August 19, 2009

I just realized my wife has been suffering from depression since the day I met her.

At the base of her depression is severe anger for an event in her childhood that was never acknowledged. The simplest disappointments in life are a catalyst for a severe anger outburst. She needs to deal with the disappointment by attacking the person closest to her. I do not participate or acknowledge the bad things that have happened so it will turn into personal insults against me and my family. Terrible things are stated. I have lost my tolerance for the attacks and now my words are used against me. I have asked that she see someone. She refuses stating she does not want to hurt anyone but this is tearing her apart as the years go by. She has stated lately that it is over between us. She speaks about everything bad happens to her. You cannot comfort her with hope. An example of a bad event is a new camera is delivered but it is defective. True, the vendor was not very helpful or cooperative in rectifying the situation but it is not the basis for "my life is horrible and no good things happen to me. Everything is difficult. I want do quit. You give me no sympathy". We fight that I cannot agree with her. The other problem is we have three young boys under the age of four. It is affecting them. She screams at the top of her lungs and they imitate her at times. She is a intelligent person with a lot of willpower but this is ripping her apart. It is like a tea kettle ready to explode at the slightest indication of a negative thing to occur. There have been some crappy things that have occurred but this is not a healthy way to deal with them. I am at my wits end especially since she considers me as part of the problem. I do not know what to do.

 

8/19/09 2:17pm

Hi there.  I am so sorry that this is going on, I totally understand both sides of the picture.  I was in her spot years ago and it finally got so painful that I realized I had to get help or end it all and we had two little boys at the time.  I also blamed my husband but it took therapy to see that it was largely displaced anger.  I eventually started taking antidepressants.  One thing you could do is go talk to a therapist yourself - you could use the support and might get some ideas of how to get your wife to either come with you or find a couples therapist, if she won't go individually.  I wasn't quite sure what you were saying about not acknowledging what happened to her - is that what she's telling you?  Since you know or believe you know where her anger is coming from, I would guess that you might have mentioned it to her, but just doing that won't make it go away.  Beneath that anger there is most likely a ton of pain and this is how she avoids feeling it.  If you see a therapist yourself, you could also voice your concerns about the effect this is having on your children.  I also grew up in a household where everything was taken out on the kids and I am still trying to heal from it today - it takes a horrible toll.  I think it is commendable that you want her to get help instead of just walking away, but right now she's looking at life through the dark glasses and doesn't see it as help, just another thing that's trying to ruin her life.

 

Some people would say you could give her an ultimatum - either get help or leave.  But you may not be able, emotionally, to do that, so you have to work with what you've got.  This site has information on getting help or if you have a family doctor, maybe you could get some referrals.  Don't try to weather this alone, it sounds too big and there are several lives being affected by it.  You can always write here again for support and I'd like to hear how you're doing.  Keep being as supportive as you can be - some day she will remember it, believe me.  Don't give up hope that this can be addressed, as long as you have hope you will keep searching until you get what you need for her and for yourself and family.  Please let me know how it goes, I really do empathize with you.

8/19/09 5:13pm

I have mention many times she needs to deal with the situation that happened to her as a child. She stated that no one in her family acknowledged her experience (her mother) though she felt like she was screaming within that it happened. She cannot deal with people who chew gum because she associates the time after the event with her mother chewing gum and she was not able to communicate to her what happened. Her father was an alcoholic who had limited visits with her as a child for which she has stated he was another failure because he was not around to protect her. She is very intelligent and has the will power of a bull but I believe this unresolved experience is killing her. She escaped to her grandmother's house as a child to the point her mother would tell her she had to come home. Her grandmother is no longer living so she has lost that comfort zone.  When I stated I now know she is depressed, I have always known there was a problem but now it seems to have moved to a new level. She has stated she has changed and she is not taking anyone's BS anymore.  She has told me during outbursts that our relationship is over. This is new. We have been together for 23 years, 19 of those married. We have had difficult time having children which is one of the negative experiences we had to encounter. She also now states she can no longer function, forgets things, wants to give up, states she is cursed, more negative things happen to her than everyone else (she gets upset with me if I point out the things we have or how worse it could be), everyone lets her down including God, no one sympathizes with her, and has a huge distrust that people will do the right thing. As an example, her birthday was this past Saturday. She is into photography so I got her an expensive camera bundled with accessories (she chose it) When she went to use the camera, it was not working. She immediately went into a tirade of how she is cursed and how difficult things are and how I do not sympathize that these things are true. We are actually not speaking right now. I tried to resolve the situation with the vendor but she always puts you into a corner where no matter what you do is not good enough. You are trapped with no options to make it good. She has stated the camera will represent one more failure in her life. 

 

I posted to this board because I am confused. I am questioning myself. Do I provide enough support and comfort? I know that I am not the most comforting person in the world but is what she is saying true? My general viewpoint is I am grateful for what I have and aware of what other people are dealing with. When I say those things to try to put perspective on the issue, it throws her into frenzy. Is the manner I am handling this wrong?

 

I really appreciate your advice and will let you know how things work out.

 

8/19/09 7:04pm

It does seem like you can't do anything right, doesn't it!  I would guess nobody could right now.  I was wondering if things got worse after you had children because postpartum depression could be a factor here, it can go on for a long time, especially if one is already struggling with it.  I hope you will seriously consider seeing a therapist for yourself; a good one should have some constructive ideas about how to handle this.  You have to have support so you don't go carrying around a lot of resentment toward her, which you are abound to have when she is shutting you out and blaming you for everything.  Not being a professional, I'm just making a guess, but she sounds like she is in a major depression - feeling like everyone is out to get you is one symptom.  She is lucky to have you because it seems like you really want to understand and to make things easier for her.  Just remember, it's an illness, it's really not about anything you've done or not done.  You're doing the best you can, so try to take care of yourself so you don't get dragged down into it.  Your kids need you now more than ever.  I don't know her job situation, of course, but they might provide for paid medical leaves, which would give her a break from work and would require that she see a doctor to get the diagnosis and documentation.  I was able to take a leave twice and it relieved a lot of pressure and let me spend more time getting help.

 

I hope things will soon get better and yes, please let us know what develops.

Merely Me, Health Guide
8/19/09 3:53pm

Hello

 

Oh boy...this is a tough situation indeed!

 

I think a lot of people here on this site can either see themselves in your or your wife or even both of you.  It seems this is a big theme here...of trying to help someone who does not want to be helped. 

 

Of course the priority is the welfare of your children.  They are going to need help to understand this and that mom's mood is not their fault.  Kids are especially prone to taking on guilt because they want to make sense of things. 

 

Does your wife know of her impact on you...the kids? 

 

It takes different circumstances or strategies for every person suffering from depression to get help.  In my case...I was at work...crying...unable to stop...and my co-worker and best friend at the time dialed the phone for me...got me in touch with a therapist and handed the phone to me.  That is what it took for me.  For your wife...I don't know.

 

Judy had some really good ideas. 

 

Was there a time when your wife was doing well?  You say she was depressed from day one of meeting her.  Were there times when she was functioning at a higher level?  If so...what do you think worked then?

 

Do you have any supports? Any friends or family who can help or even talk to her?

 

I am going to refer you to NAMI...the National Alliance on Mental Illness.  Here is their phone number:  1 (800) 950-NAMI (6264)

 

Why don't you give them a call and explain your situation.  They may have other resources that we do not know about.

 

I certainly wish you the best of luck with this.  Write back and tell us how things are going and if you need further information.

 

Thank you for reaching out here.

 

 

8/19/09 5:27pm
The oldest (four) covers his face when she screams at the top of her lungs at him. He does take her things and breaks them but it is not an appropriate manner to deal with the children. Our arguments occur in front of them which she does not seem to be concerned of how it affects them. I do and she may come back with a comment "that I should leave since there are no arguments when I am not around". We were young professionals having fun. We did not have children until recently. Even during these "fun times" the anger was an issue. It would not take much to spark an anger outburst. We both love our children tremendously and have stated that it was the best thing that has happened to us but this cloud seems to be getting darker. I am concerned about where this is leading. Thanks for your advice as well. I will keep everyone posted.
Anonymous
Cazz1979
8/20/09 7:57pm

I am sorry to hear all that you are going through. My poor husband is going through the same. I have to admit I sound nearly identical to your wife. I have suffered for many years off & on, but it never really lasted long. Until I moved & gave up everything for my husbands new job. I dont remember the last time I felt happy or content, or even positive. I have gotten so bad that I have been wanting to dissapear, never to see anyone again. But I know that is unfair on our kids. I have tried so many things, different anti depressents, counselling, etc. My final straw, I have decided to have a seperationg from my husband, although this hurts us both. I need to find myself, better my self, cos Im hurting him & the kids with this disgusting sickness I have. I dont if I am doing the right thing or not, but I find it hard to love anyone, when I hate my self so much.

I at my wits end, & feel I have no where or no one to turn to. I am trying to turn myself around, & feel I cant do it while I am struggling with my feelings for my husband, so that is why i came to the descision to have a break from each other.

 

I hope your marriage works out better. Take care

8/22/09 10:05am

unfortunatly for me, I can relate to this situation and can give you lessons learned from my experiences. Years ago, more than I care to admit :) I went through a tramatic childhood event (rapped/child porn), So I would have to say that I have a perception more like your wife's. *Note* we are who we are today becaus of our yesterdays. Life events, struggles, and experiences mold our thinking ( and for you scientific types out there our inheriated traits (DNA makeup) ).

From my experiences, those events which occurred in my childhood not only affected my trust in others but my ability to experience unguarded love for years.

 

I know that this is a difficult season for you right now but if you can, try a different perspective...the anger, "cannot do anything right", etc are not the real problems (in my opinion) they are just the symtoms. the problem is that your wife is more than likely hurting and struggling inside. Words hurt, expecially from those that you love.

 

After a couple of years in marriage, (back in the early 90's hehe) I finally tried to open up to my ex spouse about my childhood and all I heard was that I needed to let the past go but in reality, what I needed was a listening ear and a loving heart.

 

may I suggest that you find what your spouse in needing at this time...

 

just my 2 cents ..

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