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My fiance is backing out! I need advice

By chicamat Monday, March 15, 2010

Okay, so me and my fiance have been engaged for almost two years now and have been planing on getting married once I finish college, 2011.  We have had a great relationship and he is the best man I have ever met in my whole life.  Recently we went on a cruise in January to Mexico for 5 nights and then for Valentines Day he surprised me by taking me to the musical GREASE!  We are madly in love, or so I thought.   He has been working at his new job for about a month now, where he works from 1-9:30 Mon-Fri.  He is still in training so he has to do a lot of studying and test taking, but the great thing is, is that he is at the top of his class.  He is a genius!

The first week of March he started to sound like a ghost on the phone. He had a depression problem before we got together, and he actually took medicine for it.  But when we got together he stopped taking it because I made him so happy.  We had been talking about our wedding and having kids real soon and then when he called me on night he changed completely.  He said that he felt pushed away by me, and was getting cold feet, and wasn't happy anymore.  He said he didn't want to break up but he doesn't know what to do, he is afraid he will never be happy again and he is so scared.  I told him I would give him the time he needs to get happy again.  He told me he was depressed with the way his life has turned out.  He didn't make college soccer, he didn't get in to the army, and now he has tons of money to pay back on students loans for going to a private college for two years.  He wants so bad to finish college but he doesn't have the money too.  He freaks out about money all the time, but then goes and buys a motorcycle, and gets a huge tattoo and stuff like that.

We went a whole week without talking to each other and then he called me one night at 2 am.  And I asked where we stood and he still didn't know, and when I mentioned breaking up he started to cry.  He then told me he was drinking himself to sleep every night, he was drunk when we were talking.  And he told me he was going over 100 on his motorcycle and weaving in and out of traffic and even driving on the double yellow line with cars coming and going.  He has never ever done anything so stupid since we've been together.  I feel so left in the dark.  I want to help him so badly, but I'm afraid if I make contact I'll push him away more.  I told him he has a month to get his life together.  

Its just so weird, we went from talking about kids, and even telling me to stop taking my bc... to him not wanting to talk to me.  I try telling hiim to go back on his medicine but he refuses.  I don't want him to hurt himself cause his family and I would just die inside.

I can't imagine a life without him, I always thought we would be together, but now my dreams seem to be coming to an end.

 

3/15/10 6:07pm

Chicamat, I'm sorry this is happening to you.  It sounds like your fiance should definitely see his doctor about getting back on medication.  I think it might have been a little too much to tell him he has a month to get himself together because even with medication, it can very well take longer than that - depression doesn't run in the same timeline for everyone.  The deal breaker for me would be if he makes no effort at all to get help.  You might want to read this sharepost by Deborah Gray on What To Do When Your Partner Is Depressed.  And here is a sharepost by John Folk-Williams addressed to the partners of depressed men.  These might help you understand a little better what's going on with your fiance.

 

But you do need to take care of yourself and not put your life on hold.  Only you can know how long to wait.  Think about what would be happening if you had already been married and had a child - would you give him a month to snap out of it?  This is something that could happen several times during the course of his life, especially if he isn't planning on taking any medication or getting therapy at all.

 

I wish you all the best and please feel free to write here again any time.  We'll help you however we can.

3/15/10 6:34pm

Judy,

 

Thanks so much.  I know I told him he has a month, but honestly I know I will always be waiting around for him.  My heart just broke right away when we went on this "break" although I suggested it.  I lost 9 lbs in 6 days, and kept blaming myself for all of this.  My heart is in two right now, I worry about him so much and just want him to be back to the way he was, but if he doesn't what do I do.  We were suppose to get married, have kids, and grow old together.  

I have been thinking, what if we do get married and have kids and he has another break down.  The whole point of a relationship is to help each other when one is down.  And instead of me being able to help him out, he just cut me out.  The first night we went on our break, I said goodnight and not "I LOVE YOU' and he started crying his eyes out and asked if I still loved him.  And I assured him that even if I don't say "I love you" I do love him, with every beat of my heart.  

Its just so weird that this depression came out of nowhere.  I am still wearing my engagement and can't imagine taking it off.  When we spoke last I told him that if we get back together, we should go back to just being boyfriend and girlfriend, since he has cold feet.  I told him we are still young and still need to have fun, relax, and take our time.  That I don't care when we get married and have kids as long as we are happy and together.

 

Thanks! 

3/15/10 7:16pm

It sounds like you have a good eye on this, Chicamat.  Yes, that is what commitment is all about, being there in the good times and bad.  But, it can't be all one-sided.  My husband and I have been through this many times, I tend to get depressed more often than he does, but we're both willing to get help and we've been in couples therapy for years, which has been tremendously helpful.  You could benefit from that, too.  It just depends on how much he's willing to do to help himself.  Depression can be looked at like an illness similar to, say, diabetes, where you know you'll always have it, but you have to take your medicine and make lifestyle changes to keep it under control.  Hopefully, he will understand that.  If he had a therapist, that would help a lot, because it's more than just taking medicine that helps - it's your whole line of thinking that gets distorted with depression.

 

Good luck with this, hope you'll let us know how things go or if you just need to vent, don't hesitate to write again.  A lot of us have been there on one side of it or the other, or both.  Take care.

3/15/10 9:42pm

I see some things in your story that sound familiar -- except I am the one who has endured a lifetime of being in and out of depression.  And it always seemed to come on strongest when I was under stress:

 

puberty

late teens

college demands

marital abuse

extremely demanding job

divorce

 

The first two years of marriage, though (before the abuse), I was free of depression.  I relaxed because even though we had little and were both trying to get our degrees, we were high on love.  But as the years passed, the stresses piled up and weighed me down.  Twelve years into marriage, I was diagnosed with major depression and bipolar disorder and was put on medication and hospitalized several times.  My husband told me he didn't want to be married to a "mental case" so we divorced.

 

And I didn't recover fully for years because I kept doing the same old stressful things.  I began recovering when I realized I had to rethink my goals and the direction of my life and find a way of life that was not so stressful.  Avoiding stress meant living with my parents for a while and being approved for Social Security Disability Income and a small pension from my stressful job when I had to quit working.  Not exactlhy the life I had imagined for myself.  Now I have my own apartment and am doing well.

 

All this, Chicamat, to say your fiance sounds like he might have the kind of cyclical depression that is set off by stress, too.  I don't need a medical degree to guess his current depression may be from getting a new job/learning new material, pressure to "perform" at work and to prove himself there.  Plus he is talking about marriage and babies and a relationship to tend to.  And he can't take it all in, can't process it all, if he is anything like me.

 

The two of you need to talk about this.  If he wants a career, then maybe he could de-stress outside of work and make it okay.  If he wants a wife and babies, plus a high-stress job, it may not work.  The two of you need to discuss whether stress is the problem now and what the two of you can do to relieve his stress.  Maybe put off marriage, as you are speaking of, and taking measures to prevent pregnancy.  You don't want to end up a single parent.

 

Also, it is a very dangerous sign, and actually a cry for help when he reveals his wild motorcycle rides and taking chances that could take his life.  And making big financial decisions for himself without the two of you agreeing.  I think he needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist.  The important thing is not the diagnosis, it is the availablity of treatment options, and his commitment to doing whatever is necessary to recover.  Including long-term medications.

 

I wish you both the best.

3/16/10 10:13am

Is it possible that he can back to his old self without medicine.  I feel so helpless right now.  I wish I had the power to get rid of all his problems right now so we can go back to the way were. Yeah we had our little fights here and there like any couple does, but we never had anything serious.  We had a great relationship built on love and trust.  I don't know if I mentioned this, but he said that he said those things about marriage and kids, just to make me happy.  That he was lying when he said those things, he only said them because he knew how much they meant to me.  It has alway been my dream, to get married and have lovely beautiful babies.  I am hurt to know that he lied to me, that he felt he had to lie to make me happy.  It doesn't matter when he is ready for those things, and as long as we are together.  I am so just confused on how quickly he changed to a whole different person.  Why wont he let me help him, why wont he let me be there for him like I want to.  I honestly, would be find if we started our relationship all over again, went all the way back to just dating, then bf&gf, and stay there for a while.  I mean we are both still young, we are both 21.  I feel his parents are totally clueless on what is going on with him because he is very personal, doesn't talk much about his problems to them.  He lives at home but doesn't come home each night until 10, and he told me that all he does now is, after work he goes to a gas station and buys alcohol and drinks himself to sleep.  I mean yeah he is a drinker when we go out to parties and all, but he has never been one to lock himself in his room and drink by himself.  An old friend of mine who is a science teacher, said that he is making his own medicine, and that he can very well become and alcoholic and then that could lead to beating women (me).  If he loved me, wouldn't he swallow his pride and take medicine, not just for me, but for himself.  So he can be happy again.  How can I make him see that the medicine is the best choice?

 

Thanks

3/16/10 10:03pm

Chicamat, this is something he's got to decide he's going to do for himself.  There's no way you can "make" him see anything unless he's ready to see it.  And this isn't about a test of his love for you - he's ill and there is no room for anyone but himself in his world right now.  Yes, you are helpless to some degree.  You will have to decide just how much you will put up with and for how long.  You might think about seeing a therapist yourself to help you deal with this.  I'm sorry your fiance is medicating himself with alcohol, which is a depressant, but this is the road he's choosing right now.  Hopefully, he will get the picture sooner than later, that this isn't the way to help himself.  Keep writing here, let us know how it's going.

3/17/10 3:10pm

Today while I was at work, I was speaking with one of my coworkers and was talking to her about my problem with my fiance, and she sounded like he was more bipolar then depressed, because she takes medicine for depression.  

 

Background:  My fiance has always been a worry wart about money, but then he goes and buys expensive things.  He will complain and complain about all his bill, and then he buys us a cruise trip to mexico, complains and then buys a motorcycle. He seems to always be getting new credit cards so he can buy the latest things but then complains about his student loans, all the money he owes and all.  He talks to me about wanting to get married and have kids now, and then the next day its, "I don't want to talk about it" or "I don't think I'm ready yet".  He is always so back and forth.  He also has problems sleeping.  He has always had problems sleeping, but he wont go get medicine for it.  He just takes PM medicine, which helps him some.  He also goes on these crazy workout phases.  Like he went and bought P90X, and did that for a few weeks and then stopped, and then bought Insanity and did that for a while and then stopped, and now he is doing Nutra System for the second time, which he did finish.

 

So looking back on all of this, it seems to me he is bipolar.  He has symptoms and signs of bipolar depression: "feeling hopeless", "sleep problems", "inability to experience pleasure", "feeling worthless", and "thoughts of death".  He also show signs and symptoms of mixed episode: depression combined with agitation, irritability, anxiety, insomnia, and racing thoughts.  Bipolar II Disorder (hypomania and depression): the person doesn't experience full-blown manic episodes.  Instead, the illness involves episodes of hypomania and severe depression.  

 

 Is this bad that I am researching all this?

3/25/10 10:12pm

I can totally understand your pain.  It's tough when you love someone and you can't read into them. Truth is I feel like your fiance.  I have major issues with insecurity and abandonment from my childhood-many factors led to this.   I have really never been by myself.  I have always had women by my side to help me ease my insecurity. Whether it was one night or 13 years.

 

I proposed to my now ex-fiance in December and it was a great event.  We had talked about being together forever and a lifetime.  Little did i know she really wasn't ready to settle.  In February she started pulling back and would not wear her ring out on occassions and other times would.  Then she started spending more time with her girlfriends and less with me.

 

In a past marraige my ex would go out with the girlfriends and her now live in boyfriend was always at these event.  Hence my insecurity and her klack of time with me.  I have been really doubting the relationship.

 

Last week a good friend of passed and she made other plans for St Patty's day - so I made plans as well.  i went out with friends and I ended up enjoying myself with a woman at the bar a little too much and failed to call my girlfriend that night.  we didn't have sex but I was guilt ridden and she ask me about the night.  I was honest. I don't know if I thought our relationship was done. I don't know if it was just lust.  What I do know is I broke her heart because everyone she has loved has cheated.

 

So now I have the ring back and I am in the deepest depression ever.  I hate being alone and want to see and talk to her so bad. I would have tried to end my life from the mental anquishbut I have kids and I need to be around as long as I can. 

 

I am a mess and I miss her so much.  I don't know why I act out and ruin everything.  I wish I had a filter to cut out the vices I have and how I use women to keep me emotionally stable.

 

Every night is tough and all I do is beat myself up.  I also have had those drive into a road sign at 85 mph thoughts.  I know I can beat this but it's not easy. i feel lik it's all my fault and both her son and my kids had a blast together for the 1 1/2 we wear together.    So now I am swearign of women and dating for at least 90 days.  I need to get in touch with me and maybe just maybe that's what your fiance is doing too.

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By chicamat— Last Modified: 12/19/10, First Published: 03/15/10