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I'd like to discuss Suicide

By Kelly Wednesday, March 16, 2011

I've been wanting to talk about my silent companion for a long time. I just need to. I am astounded by the taboos that still surround suicide. Don't talk about it! Danger! You'll give someone the idea, they'll do it, it will be your fault! NOT TRUE. Trust me. I think about it almost all the time. Like I said, companion. More people think about suicide than we would suspect, yet may never act on it, no one may ever know. I know. Sometimes my thoughts edge towards plans, or some sort of spontaneous lethal act. I have frightened myself more than once. Other times it's a dull roar in the middle of my head, luring me like Sirens to dash myself against some rock. Other times it is mercifully quiet. 


When I ask someone if they have thought of or are thinking about suicide, I'm not giving them ideas. It's already there. I have noticed something different about them, some loss, some changes in behavior, sensing they've lost hope somehow, someway; something that sets off mywarning bells  - so I trust the bells - I pay attention. It may be that the person may not name it as such, so I name it. "I'm a worried about you, and I'm wondering if you are thinking about suicide?" It gives permission to talk about this terrifying secret a person carries around. Naming suicide can also elicit a huge releaseof tension and distress. It takes a great deal of focus and energy to NOT talk about it. It is a relief. We fear being judged, we fear inappropriate reactions, we may not want to be rescued, we just want to talk about it.  What led me here? Where/when did my despair raise its ugly head? How did I get so scared, so isolated? Indeed, it's been my experience that most people have a pretty good idea of what would be a healthy, non-lethal alternative to suicide. It's just that sometimes it gets scrambled up in our head with all the scary stuff, so we forget for awhile just how capable and resilient we can be. Sometimes our minds can seem like the junk drawer that most people have in their homes. You know the one; full of string, stamps, elastics, paper clips, thread, old keys, pens, etc... Most of it is very useful stuff to have around but if we don't clean it out/straighten it out once in a while it can get tangled to the point where it could be lifted out of the drawer with one hand. I think our minds can get like that. I think talking about our thoughts and feelings can ease the tension, loosen the knots, allow us to see the thoughts that are helping us and identify the ones we don't need anymore. Maybe some of the pens in our junk drawer have long since dried up. 

What is most important for me to say is that it's ok to ask if some is thinking of suicide. You might feel afraid, definitely the person feels afraid because it is so difficult to trust and then to find someone to trust to talk about such delicate issues. It is terrifying to askand to hear the person answer "Yes". But what I want to say is that by asking, yes the risk is you'll get a yes, but you will also be showing in a very concrete and courageous way that you care about this person. You are offering them a chance to voice the frightening things they've been thinking. And if you are like me, you know that when I get a chance to talk about what's hurting I get clearer, my thought can run circles around my brain ad they remain cloudy, unfocussed, when you give me permission to talk, I can focus, I can see through and past the despair, to another option. And I no longer feel alone, because someone like you had the compassion to reach out a hand to me, and now there's at least two of us working together to help me. Thank you to all the hands that keep reaching for me when I lose my way.

New Medication (to me)
3/17/11 9:39am

Hi, Kelly.  I think I understand what you're talking about; do you think that having thoughts of suicide always sitting in the back of your brain is maybe like thinking you have an "out" if all else fails?  I think, in some way, when people are feeling miserable, that they might entertain those thoughts just as a way of not feeling so trapped - I know I've done it.  I used to have a friend who would say that she just would not allow suicide to be on the table - there was no question in her mind that she would never resort to that.  I've thought about it many times, but doubt if I'd ever have the "guts" to actually do it.  There's too much that's unknown, in addition to the known facts of hurting family and friends.  Maybe I'd miss some really wonderful things, or maybe the pain doesn't end afterward - we have no way of knowing.  I know that reaching out for help has been a blessing to me and has taken me places I never would have gone otherwise.  I also have PTSD and sometimes wonder if it will ever really be totally gone, but I'm doing the best I can to make peace with it and to go on living in spite of it.  I hope you will have better days.

3/19/11 3:46pm

Hi Judy

 

thanks for responding. You are right, allowing the suicide thoughts does make me feel less trapped, although I do feel scared many times as a result, but I still want to be here. 

 

Speaking of "Guts", I think sometimes it takes so much courage to choose to live, because the pain can be so debilitating and it's invisible, there's no scar or wound or cast to point at and go "Ahh, that's why I am hurting". And the judgment we encounter, the doubts, the people who think, who say I'm just not trying hard enough, or I want to feel this way (yeessh) just feeds our own doubts, makes it harder, adds more pressure. I feel angry a lot, about my situation, about the fear and sadness I induce in others. These bring the thoughts closer, but still I live, it's ok.

 

I wonder too about whether my PTSD will ever be gone. Then I also wrestle with whether I actually have PTSD, which as it turns out is a very common thing amongst people living with PTSD. I wrestle with the idea that I am just fundamentally flawed and that's why I couldn't "handle" my job. then I counter angrily with,"Oh yeah? You try it! See how you do!", what a sine wave.

 

Then I would like to think that our brains are so powerful and adaptable and versatile that they can self-heal. Then would it be like the broken bone that is stronger when it heals? I'd like to think so. I know my meds have taken the "edge" off, so to speak, but I wonder if they interfere with my brain's natural healing ability. It's so complex. It's so draining and yes it sometimes is a relief, a pressure release that there will always be a way to stop all of the pain, for me anyways, but you're right, not for my family. They love me, I wish I felt deserving ot their love, but there it is. 

I wish for better days for all of us.

Take care Judy

Kelly

3/18/11 7:56pm

My therapist said to me one day," I am not afraid to talk about suicide if you want to talk about it". I thought he must have been reading my mind.

 

It is a companion of mine also, if I may borrow your word. It has been for quite some time. It is always with me in varying degrees. I can now talk with him about it when it feels stronger than other times. I can talk to him about having control over my behavior despite those feelings. I can tell him if I need more help with them. All of this because of his statement to me. He feels it is important for him to know, even when I am confident that I am in complete control because it tells him how badly I am feeling. His specialty is in trauma, and he realizes that different triggers can hit me harded than others  and feels it is important to pace some of our work in a certain way. It gives me the freedom of sharing with him without having to worry that if I say that S word, he will put me in a hospital. The one thing I have promised him is that I will be honest with him about my control. I think that was fair enough. I did need to be hospitalized at one point and there is a decent program around here that I have been to and he is connected to so I feel I can be honest with him.

When you live with this everyday and can't talk about it, I think it takes on a life of it's own. Most people not in the mental health field panic when it is mentioned(even some in the mental health field) I think.I am glad that I can be open with him about it. It sure does reduce the stress of trying to tell him when it is becoming a problem.

Thanks for bring this up. I am sure there are many more of us who have a similar companion.

3/19/11 3:28pm

Hi Nanypat

 

Thank you so much for commenting. It makes me feel less alone. You are so right, when I am able to talk about suicide freely it has so much less power over me. I don't know why more caregivers don't realize this. It's akin to talking about death or loss, only more scary because it's my own death I ponder. It's that universal fear of not knowing what to say in response to someone's distress. But people in the position of caregiving forget, in their fear I guess, that someone who is thinking about suicide, no matter to what extent, is the one who has the things to say, we need someone to really listen, to really hear what it is like for us. Most people are not so good at listening, really listening, most people are too busy worrying about what to say or do next that their ability to just be present for the person in distress, is compromised. I am so glad for you that you have found such an incredible person to talk to. I like the idea of negotiating with my therapist too.

 

I wish you well, it sounds to me like you are a fighter and I appreciate you honesty and willingness to talk about suicide too. Ironically, I think this makes us stronger. take care.

Kelly

3/19/11 4:27pm

Thanks Kelly. I feel pretty lucky that he has such insight also.

I want to thank you for creating the original share post about suicide.I have to admit I expected that there would be a lot more responses because I know there are many more people that live with these feelings everyday, but I guess maybe it can be scary to even write about it for some.

I have 2 wonderful sons, a daughter-in-law that I love like my own and three grandchildren that are the lights of my life. I struggle with the guilt of feeling suicidal when the feelings get overwhelming because I have been blessed with them. Sometimes though, nothing can break through that that darkness that just wants me to give in. You know, when it it is a struggle to just bother to breathe. It is a good thing it is an involuntary muscle movement because sometime I wouldn't bother to do it. Do you struggle with feeling guilty about it? You don't have to answer of course. I was just wondering.   Thanks again. pat

3/19/11 6:05pm

Hi Pat

 

Absolutely I feel guilty, selfish, unappreciative, I also have so much in my life to be thankful for, I am mostly, but yes the darkness gets impenetrable sometimes, and I just try and ride it out as best I can.

 

Thank you  for your kind words. I was thinking there would be more responses, but it's enough that it's out there. I was surprised that suicide was not listed as a topic on the homepage here, I think it needs to be. It would bring a great deal more people to this site I believe and give people another support venue.

 

Blogging about suicide with people who truly get it helps so much!

 

Thank you for your encouragement too.

 

Take care

Kel

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By Kelly— Last Modified: 03/19/11, First Published: 03/16/11