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My Mother is back !!!!

By rose martin Wednesday, September 01, 2010

Hi all, those who read my posts will know my mother dumped me at 6months on her mother to rear then high tailed it back to London, UK where already having a

daughter older than me, she went on to have a large brood of kids with a really nasty abusive Madman [my father]. ~ She was offered help to leave him but chose to stay. Those kids suffered.  I never heard a word, not a card, a phonecall and thought my Grandparents [ageing] were my Mother/Father.  When i was 10 I was told the truth. It devastated me. I was suffering dreadful anxiety/Depression. My mother would come to Ireland on holiday but never showed any expression of love for me.

Fast forward~ At 18 I went to London to stay with her. To say I was unwelcome was an understatement, It was so obvious she wanted me gone. She phoned my Grandmother to say 'I  hadnt offered to pay for my food'. Remember my Grandma

had paid for all my schooling/food etc on v little money.

2 Years ago I finally had enough of her phone calls as she's in her 80s. The 'lets me nice' scenario, I played along but it was pathethic, each time I was to come over to London, there would inevitably be an excuse 'the house needs painting'

I told her on the phone that I couldnt understand how she'd dumped me and that I was sick of the excuses, the conscience appeasement games she was playing, I told her she was a wash out of a mother and not to phone me again, that I had Depression issues too.   A couple of recordings of my sisters vitriol ensued.

The relief was great but I suffered a dreadful Depression.

Now, some months ago, I got a very contrived, sneaky phonecall from england from my older sister saying she felt my mother was dying and that she would love a call from me. She also said the 'family' wanted to get close to me.

I fell into the trapEmbarassed being needy - Phoned my mother. It was all about me going to live with her and my sister phoned me once but never again. I texted, emailed her but no answer. My mother asked me for a holiday but now says that it wouldnt be fair to ask her sons [both of my brothers are in their 50s] to give up their bedrooms so shes waiting to be able to afford a Sofa Bed !!!!  

It's  just pathethic and frankly, I make the calls. Its all about her. I'm finding it

unsettling, ive irritation, anger, and feel duped, conned by my sister.

I feel its too little, too late and I know in my heart She doesnt want to see me, its all talk .  Should I write a letter and say, Im not able for the game playing any more ? Its hard to write the full history and i realise this isnt an autobiography post so I try in vain to keep things short. Its just my mother equals pain. She is seeking to appease her own conscience and I dont believe anything has changed.

I'm not prepared to play games anymore - I can feel myself getting Depressed again.

9/ 1/10 7:37am

     I'm so sorry that this has happened to you Rose.  It is hard enought to heal wounds from childhood, but to have to revisit them and have the wounds ripped back open is awful.  I completely understand.  What you have to live with now is YOU.  Whatever you choose to do, you have to live with it forever.  You know that you are a better person than they are.  You can see beyond all the games and personal gain they are trying to achieve.  Guilt is a terrible think to have to live with.  Don't be sucked down into the muck too.  You are to good a person.  You being given the opportunity to not live with this woman was a good thing.  What would your life have been like had you not been raised by your Grandmother.  You are a very intelligent, witty, clever and funny person.  You have risen above the pain, rejection and hurt.  You are a strong woman.  Don't let them pull you down.

9/ 1/10 12:59pm

Hi Rena, Many tks for taking the time to write, and for your compliments.

I feel that she's an old woman, as my sister kept telling me when she said she

was 'Dying'. she wasnt Dying of course. I guess this is the hub of the problem.

Of hurting an elderly woman. Then, I think that she's still the very same person, hasnt mellowed and is totally self absorbed, self obsessed.  The kids reared themselves and, I reiterate, she chose him before them, even though he was an unbelievably violent and anti-social psycopath who was in and out of prison.

I have to make the decision. I have been very anxious since she's come back into my life.  She barely phones but I'm left with Depression/Anxiety and memories

that arent nice.  Thanks Again Rena.

9/ 2/10 7:29am

     Take your time Rose.  Don't rush into anything.  It seems that your Mother is trying to make herself feel better, not you.  Mothers like this can inflict so much pain on you.  They can cause you to feel guilty and bad, when it is their guilt that they are trying to get rid of.  You were to much better off without a mother like this in your life.  And two brothers in their fifties still living with Mom!  What is up with that?  She obviously chooses men over everyone else.  The damage she has caused you is terrible.  It is a good thing that you were not subjected to this womans antics your whole life. 

     Don't let your families games drag you down.  You are to good for that.  I know this is easier said than done.  Keep us posted and we are here for you!!!

9/ 2/10 11:26am

Hi Rena, Thanks for your absolute truth and Wisdom. You are So right, It never dawned on me - but you're correct, she IS trying to make herself feel better, and is not thinking of me at all.  How right you are.  The comment about not asking the 'boys' [in their late 50s abit younger than me] to give up their bedrooms as it

'wouldnt be fair' really showed me how she reveres them above all else and how they , in the end are more important than seeing her daughter that she hasnt seem for years and years  20yrs approx. Wouldnt u imagine she'd be dying to see me but no, its about conscience and  trying to rectify the past without actually any emotional input on her part. It's sick actually and I'm too old for these games and my Depressions are too black to risk going down into one of them on account of her. Thanks so so much Rena. You have the Gift of Wisdom and insight.

Merely Me, Health Guide
9/ 1/10 2:54pm

Hi Rose

 

What a story!  It does seem that you are being used and victimized by this situation.  It is so amazing that you are so kind, good hearted, and persevering after all this family has put you through.

 

Okay so...let me get this straight...is your family trying to get you to take care of her now?  Or to see you to ease her guilt?  what is the motivation behind all this trying to get you to visit?

 

I don't know all of your history or what you have been through so...about the only advice I can offer is...whatever you do...or don't do...do it for you.  This isn't about them anymore...this is about what you want to do and what will give you a sense of peace.  Some people are very surprised by their reactions to when a "bad" parent dies.  There is anger...there is sadness over what could have been....and sometimes there is even love there miraculously...even when it is not deserved.  The emotions can be very confusing and chaotic. 

 

Trust your gut on this.  What will bring you peace or closure?  Even if you want to see her to tell her off...that is an option too.  Or if you choose to say...enough and close the door on this...nobody would blame you. 

 

I can totally see why this circumstance would cause you to feel depressed.  The one person in the world we want to be able to count on...our mother...and then when you do not get that your whole life...it has such horrible domino effects on every aspect of life.  Forgive me for saying this...but it may have been better if you thought she died or simply didn't exist...then you would not have all this heartache.  Your mother made a terrible mistake by not loving and cherishing you as you deserve.  Her inability to do right by you...is not your fault...I hope you know that. 

 

Hugs to you Rose...the little girl who did not get the love she needed...and hugs to you now...the woman who has to feel these open wounds being ripped open once again.  You are a very courageous woman. 

 

Thanks for sharing this....and let us know how things evolve.  Trust your gut and heart...no need for heavy thinking or analysis...your heart will lead you.

 

 

9/ 1/10 3:57pm

Hi Merely Me, Thanks so much for going to the trouble to write to me when youre going through a rough Depression  yourself. Very briefly, my mother lives in the U.K. For some years now she has said 'you must come over for a week or two'

This became a joke, each time I would attempt to, an excuse would come up, pathethic, 'the house needs painting' the latest being 'Theres no room as It wouldnt be fair to ask your brothers to give up their bedrooms !!! [50plus years of age].  The invitation is a sort of mind game she plays. It is why I washed my hands of her 2 years ago. I felt a deep depression but also a relief. I asked God to forgive me and felt God understood the pain her lack of love, real love has caused. Lately, since that  phone call to say she was dying, I have phoned her.

The calls are still the same as before. You must come over. 2 Days ago I was v.

Stressed and annoyed at myself for having being conned by my sister in london.

I phoned and said to my mother 'What about this holiday when am I coming over ? She immediately went into defense mechanism. Excuses. 

She didnt know M.M. that I found out that my brother is going to Poland in 2 weeks and that there would be a bed free.   ~ Where there's love, there's room.

Again I feel she's appeasing her conscience. I feel so sad, having 7 other brothers and sisters that have shown No Interest in meeting me , indeed my mother has never said 'I cant wait to see you' the invite, the being a mother to me, even in these latter days, is just a PR stunt and its just like you say, opening a sore again. Thanks so much for your input.  I feel myself that I need to pull away and will make a decision re same when I am a little stronger.  Look after yourself Merely Me and thanks for those hugs, I needed them .

9/ 2/10 9:53am

Rose, I must have missed this post earlier, but it infuriates me to read this about your family.  If they don't want you around, why don't they just leave you the ___ alone?  You have nothing to ask God to forgive you for in this regard, it's they who should be asking.

 

You need to do what you feel is right, but honestly, I think you should have nothing to do with any of them - just wash your hands of them, take a deep breath and move on.  I cut off contact with my parents some years ago for a year and they weren't nearly as hurtful as your family has been.  The guilt was bad.  But I needed to do it to get some perspective.  I understand the conflicting feelings when our parents get old, but getting old doesn't mean they suddenly turn into nice people - some of them just get meaner and more manipulative.  My parents have mellowed out and I get so torn between anger at what they did (but never once acknowledged) and empathy for them as they age.  It gets so confusing.  With your family a little further away from you, it might be a little easier to cut off contact.  My siblings were mad at me, but I still saw them occasionally.

 

No matter what our parents have done to us, there's that child inside that is still looking for their love and approval, no matter what our adult self thinks.  I'm hoping there will be some relief for me when they're gone, but I wonder if that will really be true.  I'm tired of using energy to avoid them, if you know what I mean.  It sounds like you use a lot of energy in dealing with them, as well.  We're not getting any younger, either, and sometimes I wonder when it will be MY turn to fly.

 

Whatever you do, you know you've got our support here. Like MM said, ask yourself what it is YOU want and then go for it.

 

 

9/ 2/10 1:10pm

Thanks Judy, As you know I dont normally do my own Posts but this has me low and confused.  I'm full of guilt, and yet, on some psychological level, the Adult

in me knows that this woman has just become an older version of her younger

self. There doesnt seem to be  any Wisdom or insight into herself at all.

The entire World evolves around HER.  ~  The absense of any REAL feeling of love is so transparently obvious that its embarrassing, and yet the child in me

feels in some way [or did]  that perhaps, in her old age, she had realised what

she had missed in not having  me/rearing me.   

I now see it for what it is, a Cosmetic Exercise to appease her guilt,, or whatever

sort of uncomfortable feeling my existence gives her. Sometimes , I dont think

she's capable of Guilt. She blames everyone for her predicament, gives out about

relations here in Ireland and how THEY should be looking after me, visiting me

and in ping pong - ing the ball back into her sisters/brothers court, she abdicates

responsibility.     Unfortunately, she has a family who I would call 'enablers' and who adore her, theyve all done remarkably well  and seem blind to the life she gave them. My 2 brothers are, to my way of thinking, disgusting parasites.

Neither works. nor did they during the Boom.

Ive been doing the phoning in the last few months and last week was the straw that broke the camels back ~  I phoned and she was watching a TV Soap and

couldnt come to the phone. This is horrific !!  Sorry about all the capitals and exclamation marks, im just so emotional about it. Ive taken in your advise and

thanks Judy, I know you have your own stuff going on. Take care.

Anonymous
-Michel-
9/ 2/10 11:45am

Hello Rose

I just drop by and have no intention of staying on the site, to tell you the truth I wonder why I did drop by whatever the case I know that this as been a life long issue and one more time for reasons nowed only by you you fell for it again....maybe out of love that you didnt have.

 

wouldnt it be better for you to put a cross on familly relations that obviously made you suffer all of your life in order to achieve some peace for the years that you have left ?

 

Fair winds & Calm Waters

Michel

9/ 2/10 1:22pm

Bonsoir Michel et Merci pour le reply.  It's good to hear from you again Michel and I was thinking of you the other day. Wondering if you were enjoying the beauty that is upon you up there  with all the Golden orange Red leaves as Autumn comes in all her Glory.  What a beautiful place you have up there !

Thanks so much for chipping in and offering your advise. I am very grateful.

Its best described as a life - long wound that I healed 2 years ago by offloading all i thought of her on the phone. I said I couldn't understand how she could have dumped a beautiful little 6month old baby with her ageing mother and then go back to London, with no emotion and have a large brood of kids and never bother with me. She replied 'I dont have to take this ' . Anyway, I went into a black Depression but, it was as if a huge Black mass had left my stomach, I felt weak and relieved after I said what I had been feeling all these years.

Then my sister phones [she never phones] and I am conned into phoning my Mother -   Fast forward, Now I have to take her phone calls and I agree with you Michel, I want Peace for the remainder of my life.

Michel, peace of mind is such a hard thing to get isnt it ?  For me anyway.

There's always somebody there to hurt, to kick, to insult , to put down.

I am going to try and build up my Self Esteem and self worth and my Survival skills because, if I go down, and end up in hospital, back on the Drink, in a low Depression, she's the last person [her and my brothers/sisters who arent in contact] who will be there for me. 

Again Michel thanks for taking trouble to write. I hope your son is doing ok.

hugs from Ireland

9/ 2/10 2:54pm

hi Rose

I have too uncles that take(took) care of there grandkids

I would be very upset if my mom did that

I wouldnt be here

who knows where I would be

My father didnt want to be in my life for ther longest

I still dont know what to think

Thanks for the email

Jon from NY

 

9/ 2/10 3:17pm

Hi Jon from N.York, Lucky you to be in New York for the Autumn, I hear its beautiful in Central Park and there are beautiful walks?

Thanks so much Jon for your reply. ~ When your Mom rejects you, and doesnt with the others, [This is not self pity its the truth] you begin to say, 'why me?'

I have never felt I am loveable Jon.     Never felt worthy of Happiness.

That is changing now Jon. I want some happiness and Joy in my life.

Dont you ?    Reading the replies Ive got from helpful people on DC like

yourself, Ive come to the conclusion that it's time to stop looking for

my Mothers Approval and Love.   

I need to draw a Line under that and start afresh.  Thats not easy.

I dont want to be a whinger but Ive been upset alot by this. Her coming back

causing wounds to open.

So, we are responsible for our own happiness dont you agree ?

That means getting away from Toxic people.

Sometimes , that means people who are blood relatives, like My Mother.

I wish her no harm, I have a love for her, but she is Toxic to my Mental health.

Thanks again Jon. email me anytime ok. Wink

9/ 3/10 12:51am

     This comment alone, "I wish her no harm, I have a love for her"...just shows what a wonderful, remarkable and loving person you really are Rose.  You have love for a mother who discarded you at 6 months old.  You have accepted, healed and overcome such pain.  You are a remarkable person full of love.

     I think that I can say from everyone here,...We all love you Rose!!!Laughing

9/ 3/10 5:26am

Good Morning Rena [its 10am here in Ireland] so just opened Laptop. Your

message has helped me enormously.   I woke up with, what's the beginnings of

a Depression, dont you know yourself ? churning stomach, apathy, self loathing

etc., and then got your message.  Thank you so much. Many people dont

understand.. Especially that, as you get older, it seems to get worse.

Thanks again.Wink

9/ 3/10 9:16pm

     It really does get worse as age creeps in.  Hate that.  I do now exactly how you feel.  Depression can suck you right down from the minute your eyes pop opened in the morning.  Sometimes I get up and just want to go back to bed and get myself unconscious again so I don't have to endure the inner darkness.

     Upward and onward!  Take care of YOU!

9/ 4/10 7:06am

Hi Rena, The part I find hard to understand is, sometimes you can feel a Depression build up, the symptoms, but sometimes you literally wake early one morning, and its there 'Hello Im here Its your old Pal Depression'  -  Ive found

that I use strategies for this now. Yesterday i got out of the house [as live alone]

I also rested. Made lovely Soup and  had Brown Bread and Salmon [smoked] its not expensive here and its a treat. So ive learnt to use certainthings to try and

stave off the Depressin as it comes.

Thanks again for your straight talking and wonderful support Rena, I hope I can be there for you.

9/ 4/10 8:09am

     You are so right.  Some times I can feel the depression creeping in and other times it is a "sucker punch" from behind that I never saw coming.  I need to try to do better at being kind and treating myself to help pull myself out of the gloom.  Good idea.

     As for helping me,...Rose, you already have!  Smile

9/ 3/10 9:12am

Hi Rose,

It must be hard every time this is brought up - all the complications from your life building together with whatever fresh stuff your family throws at you... I guess the answer to what you should do is best answered with another question: what benefits you the most? Do you have any desire to be a part of that family, and thus are willing to take the risk, or is it better for you to walk away and just look after yourself? You're a kind, caring person and I understand the pull of responsibility - but you are responsible to your own health first and foremost, which I think you know and is why you're questioning what you will do.

 

I'm not helping much am I? Sorry. Just wanted to say I'm sorry you're going through such a tough dilemma at the moment and I hope whatever you choose to do it works out best for your health.

9/ 3/10 9:31am

Hi Lyra,  Thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate all the support ive gotten form DC. people.  I'm OK at other peoples problems but we seem to lose

insight into our own sometimes. Too much emotions pulling up one way and the

other.               

i guess, my mother being in her 80s is the biggie for me. However, she is still as selfish and manipulative as ever, thats sad but true.  She rejected me and never really did anything, to try and make up to me for that. A few phone calls over the

past 10years, they always left me sad and lonely, for the family I could have been part of.  She spends her time on the phone telling me how 'lucky' I was !!!

She doesnt know I had a dreadfully lonely existence with 2 ageing grandparents [her parents] whom she never even said 'thank you' to.

Nope Lyra, My mother is suffering from some type of guilt as she reaches the end of her years. She isnt thinking about my feelings here. She asks me over with no intention of honouring that invitation. London from Dublin is only an hour in a plane !! no excuse.

I'm going to have to do what I did 2 years ago. That it, to tell her that Isimple cant go on with this charade any longer, this game playing to make her feel better. I'm going to say how her excuse 'Its not fair asking the boys [50 plus] to give up their bedrooms etc is pathethic !! and that you cant play around with

peoples hearts.   Thanks Lyra for the support, its much appreciated as 'i know u have your own stuff x

9/ 3/10 9:41am

Hi Rose,

I just wanted to say that I think it is very brave of you to come to that decision to say those things you need to say. To manage to do such a thing once in a lifetime is difficult, but to do it a second time too - amazing! Smile For what it's worth it sounds to me like you are doing the right thing.

9/ 3/10 2:46pm

Thanks lyra for your support and your honesty, it means a great deal to me.

I will have to just wait, and pick me time. Am moving into another Rented

Govt. Subsidised Cottage 2 doors down in a few weeks and changing Electricity bills etc and moving stuff etc getting Washing machine plumbed in - I find this v stressful but it will be a new lease of life - I hope ! I intend to try and socialise more and whats left of my life, i want to enjoy. Peace, harmony, Contentment.

Thats what I aim for. You cant run away from everyone in life who annoys or hurts you, but sometimes, there's a time to appraise the situation [ongoing] and

go for a compromise or a  move/shift that will help keep us Sane and Well.

I'm tired playing games and I believe it's behind alot of Depression . Being what

we think others want us to be. Not being real. Afraid to ask for what we deserve.

Taking crumbs from the table. We all deserve better than that ! Thanks again Lyra. Youve been v helpful.

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