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Wow!
psychoward1
Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 10:16 AMre: Wow!
jpw2008
Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 12:00 PMHi pat thanks again for your input.You must be one of the senior members here.Such knowledge and insight is greatly appreciated on this site. I can't help you with your sleeping problem. I'm not qualified for that. Not a docor or therapist. Just a Mental Health Patient who cares and is still learning to battle my own demons.
Keep up the good work
Jon P Ward
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Full Plate
jpw2008
Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 11:56 AMhi janet
I feel for you. I don't imho know what to say. It's good to get it out of your system,Thank you for reminding me to do that. I hope you take good care of your daughter. Sounds like she really needs you. I know when I threated to commit suicide,my mother got real upset and almost cried. You see, We really don't know how we affect someone by are actions. It's important to keep a clear perspective in these troubled,very troubled times.
My sympathy for you and your daughter.
If I can help let me know
Sincerely,
Jon P Ward
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Tips from a long-termer getting better-er
ThereIsASolution
Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 01:32 PMI wrote this for another poster, but what the heck. You are definitely in a pile of mess - but I think the following will remind you of some tactics that will help you from feeling overwhelmed and "rubbery":
Here's the quick on my progress from depressed to reasonably content human being:
Talk therapy for 38 years (more on than off) -
AA since 1984Psychiatrist for meds since 1995 (last year finally found meds that really work - for me it's Wellbutrin & Buspar)
Here's the short 'n sweet of why I'm still alive and not in a rubber room:
Not allowed: Self-pity (OK, if it's a death or something horrible, you can "Why me"
for maybe 1 day - that's it)
"Your Ego Is Out To Get Your Ass" - for instance, you don't have a job,
but you feel it's "beneath you" to work at McDonald's because you have
a degree, blah blah blah - go work at McDonald's and shut up about it -
learn what you can, and keep sending out resumes etc. for a better job."I won't take meds because it's not natural" - bull. We are a pile of
chemicals. If you're depressed, your brain chemistry is messed up, and
waiting for it to "fix itself" is stupid. Get some meds, take them as directed
and talk to the doctor before you change anything. DO NOT STOP TAKING
THEM unless you tell the doctor why you don't want them (usually "it's
not working" after a week - wayyyyyy too soon usually). And then, if the
doctor agrees to stop or switch, do it as directed. And research it also on
the internet, because even shrinks don't know everything, and everyone's
body chemistry is different.Allowed: gratitude, being of service to others, 12-step meetings (emotions anonymous
for instance, or - gasp - a talk therapist!!!! And yes, if you're poor you can
still get help - here comes the ego again - go to the county health clinic and
keep trying. I'm sorry if you don't want to admit you're poor or screwed up -
do it anyway.So - If your ego is running the show, you're in trouble. No ego allowed.
Keep trying no matter what.
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Going Insane...
Marlene227
Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 03:31 PMJanet,
I really am not here to say this is what you can do. Oh, gosh, wouldn't that be great if everything we heard were true!!!
As mentioned you do have alot on your plate. It has been said to just do one thing at a time. I wish that came with an 100% guarantee.
To me I think a person needs to express just how they often feel. I know it doesn't always come that easy to express or even know how to put it all into words.
Life can be so frustrating and if we, that is anyone, can't handle it I see nothing wrong in that. I do always hope that the person going through this can come out of this dispare. It is not as easy for some as it is for other's.
I don't understand why other's do not understand. To me there are so many of us crying out for some kind of help. What became of the saying "Do unto other's as you would have them do unto you"? Now I am not a church going person. Went almost every Sunday until the age of 17. I am letting other's know my religious education so I can't be damned by theirs and their beliefs.
Life is good some days and not so for other days. And, there are days that are the worst. I am just so glad when I can come out of those days. That is what I wish for you.
I am not sure exactly how to explain it but someone or something needs to take place in your world so you can be a little more and feel a bit more good about yourself.
I don't post much but I do keep in contact by reading other's postings. I do hope to hear from you again sometime with a smile in your heart even if it is for that day.
Take care now!
Marlene
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yeah, I know....really
dflath2o
Friday, April 24, 2009 at 10:19 AMwithout going thru all the grisly details, Janet....Yes I've been there, & worse. I promise... no cliches, but....rummage around within your soul, & come up with a reason for You...listen, it's ok to get selfish once in a while, so, even for a moment, if you can be for you, & only you, it'll help a lot. Peace!
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Janet, Thats a whole lot on your plate. You should get with someone and figure out a support system. I know not having a job really stinks. I have been looking since sept08, and I've had 1 interview(hopefully hear good news this week). I took a claritin-d last night and havent slept a wink. Anyway keep holdin on..
Pat