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Saturday, November, 22, 2008

"Just Snap Out of It!"

by  Merely Me
Sunday, August 24, 2008
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How many of us suffering from depression have heard those words or words to that effect from those trying to "help" us with our mood?  Other euphemisms may include, "Just pick yourself up by your boot straps,"  "Get over it already,"  or my personal favorite, "There are  people...

 

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  1. My magic wand. Where is it?
    Paulinyork
    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 05:36 PM

    I've always wondered  what it was like to never snap-in to it in the first place. I mean, I know, people can do that, but what do they use? Was there some wand or chant passed out at birth some of us didn't get?

     

    Getting out of the bed on the wrong side is not the same. People just generally stare at you blankly if you even try to tell them and walk away, shaking their head. You feel worse. Time to walk further down that path, get away. 

    The Snap-in is like the old Candid Camera show: "When you least expect it, you're elected, it's your lucky day..." The Snap-out is very elusive.

    I feel better reading this. Though I shouldn't, for your sake, it's apparent you know, or knew. You know what empathy is.


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    re: My magic wand. Where is it?
    Merely Me
    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 08:49 PM

    I will tell ya, I wish I had that magic wand too.  Maybe someone has hidden it from us!  Thank you so much for reading and sharing. 


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  2. do you really want to know?
    zenhead
    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 06:48 PM

    going along with making wise choices about who to talk to, is knowing how to answer people when they ask how you're doing. i've learned this with ms. most people ask, but don't really want to know. they are just being polite, "how ya doin'?" there are those who ask the same question, but really do want to know. it's actualy pretty easy to tell them apart, and i am always happy to find someone who really does want to know. my ms symptoms, or depression, or anything like that, are things that rarely come up in conversation, so we don't get many chances to talk about how we are really feeling. a lot of us have to pay someone to listen. so it is a blessing to find someone who asks, and does really want to know. and i have learned to ask how other people are doing, and let them know that i really do want to know. when i was in high school, i had a friend who's mother was severely depressed, and if you called the house, and she answered, and you said, "hi, mrs. whosie, how are you," she'd tell you - about how her shock therapy was going, how she'd been drinking less these days, etc. we very quickly learned not to ask. anyway, knowing who really does want to know, and who is just being polite is as important as taking the opportunity to talk when someone wants to listen.


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    re: do you really want to know?
    Merely Me
    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 08:51 PM

    Love your story.  Yes, true...you really have to figure out who is ready to hear the truth about our days and who just wants to hear a simple but insincere, "Fine thanks."

     

    Thank you so much for stopping by to read and to share. 


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  3. "but you have everything going for you....."
    Storm
    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 06:52 PM

    I hear these statements a lot. The "snap out of this" is my favorite *said sarcastically*. It's like I am chosing to feel this way. I am not. Like you said, I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy. I just hate how sometimes people think I am doing this for attention. Excuse me? I would love more than anything for the darkness in my mind to go away; to be "normal"; to finally live life instead of just existing. Ugh. I guess some will never understand.

     

    I say to some well meaning friends & family: "Spend one day inside my head. Then we'll talk.

     

    PS. I have been dealing with depression since I was 15 in varying degrees but still....

     

    I just joined last night & I can already tell, I am going to like this site.Smile


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    re: "but you have everything going for you....."
    Merely Me
    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 08:54 PM

    Yes from the outside looking in, sometimes others cannot understand how we can be feeling depressed.  And that lack of empathy helps to create further feelings of despair and isolation.  I can tell that you totally get what I have written here. 

     

    I am so glad that you like it here and I hope you keep reading and sharing.


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  4. WELL SAID
    daniel h gasker jr
    Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 04:27 PM

    When I was first diagnosed, My wife said that "Get over it".......I cried

    myself to sleep that night.

    people just don't know.

    Now, she can tell, just by the look on my face, that things are not going

    well. She's very supportive now. Thank God.

         Peace & Blessings        - Danny G. 

                                                       J.T.   Pa.

     


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    re: WELL SAID
    Merely Me
    Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 04:41 PM

    Hey Danny...

     

    Oh that must have been so painful.  Yeah it is hard for loved ones to understand but when they finally do it is wonderful.  I am so glad you have the support that you need now.  Thank you so very much for your comment.  It is so good to be around others who have gone through the same thing.  There is a healing power within such a community. 


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  5. Just Snap Out of It!
    Jen
    Friday, August 29, 2008 at 08:47 AM

    I love my mom, my dad, and my husband, but when I was going through a major meltdown during an MS attack 3 years ago----- crying all day, yelling at people, feeling like I was down a dark hole, and a complete insomniac (steroids!)----- they kept telling me to cheer up.  Especially my mom.  Her phrase was "buck up", and it makes me seeth to this day.  Finally my mom took me to the ER because I was getting loopy from lack of sleep.  I think that finally put the kibosh on the "buck up" nonsense. And I began treatment with Lexapro, which has helped my depression/anxiety and insomnia immensely.  I don't think people fully understand the helplessness serious depression causes until they experience it for themselves. I know I didn't. Yet I've never told anyone seriously depressed to cheer up, either.

     

    Off topic:  Merely Me---- do you have a widget for this site?  Still wanna add this to my site, and a pretty widget would help tremendously.Tongue out


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    re: Just Snap Out of It!
    Merely Me
    Friday, August 29, 2008 at 09:56 PM

    wow...you have been through a lot!  Sometimes it takes a crisis to get through to people. 

     

    Umm...the widget...yes I just got it today and it is on my blog. 


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  6. Need for Education
    Anonymous
    Saturday, August 30, 2008 at 10:36 AM

    Your article serves to educate on what it is like to be depressed in a world that doesn't understand depresssion.  It also points out the real need for basic education for people who do haven't dealt with depression on a day to day basis. 

     

    It is easy for people to say and think, there is nothing visibly or physically wrong with you, so "Jut Snap out of it".  They can not be more wrong!!!

     

    People need to be aware that depression is a serious affliction that deeply effects every aspect of a person's life and is both a physical and a serious heath problem.

     

    Your article and regular column will go a long way to teach people to take depression seriously and to help them to realize how they should help and react to people who are currently afflicted.

     

    Keep up your good work!!!


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    re: Need for Education
    Merely Me
    Saturday, August 30, 2008 at 10:43 AM

    Thanks so much.  Yes it is true, as one reader wrote to me, there is such an undeniable stigma attached to depression simply because so many people do not understand that this is a biological disease.  It is not some weakness of character nor a matter of choice.  I am hoping that my words do help to educate.  Please do keep coming by to read and share.  It helps so much.


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  7. Untitled Comment
    bun
    Saturday, August 30, 2008 at 01:39 PM

    I moved away from home, following a girl I did not love, trying to get jobs that were too hard to get because there was too much competition. I stooped to a very high LOW and became depressed. I know what it is like to be unmotivated, hate life, and not be able to see any light of day.

     

    I am naturally better. However my  new girlfriend has depression, and even though I experienced it myself, I still have a hard time keeping a straight head about it. I still give her a hard time and tell her to look at the positive side to things, and it comes off annoying.

     

    My point being, if you are helping someone you love, the greatest thing you can do is be patient and do not take it personally. It is true, if us depressed people had a choice, we would like the drive to move forward.


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    re: Untitled Comment
    Merely Me
    Saturday, August 30, 2008 at 01:44 PM

    I know.  Depression is hard on everybody, especially those trying to help.  I find myself doing the same thing to others.  I want to fix things for them and you can't.  You do have to have much patience to just sit back and listen.  You can't solve the other person's problems for them but you can be a support to enable them to find the strength themselves to get back on their feet.

     

    Thank you so much for your comment.  I am going to try to get around to exploring more and reading any shareposts that are written.  So please do not hesistate to share your story. 


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  8. Insecure and lonely...
    Insecure Girl
    Saturday, August 30, 2008 at 06:29 PM

    I just got off a chat with my boyfriend of 8 years. We are currently having a long distance relationship cause I just moved here. I'm not sure whether I'm depressed but I certainly feel alone and insecure whenever he talks about his meets with friends that are mostly girls. I know he's not the type to have an affair behind my back but there's this voice inside of me that keeps whispering ideas into my head making me feel insecure. The one thing that got to me while we were chatting was the meet he had with a close friend of ours. Secretly, I envy her because she recently lost weight, looks great and she has big breasts. Enough said. My boyfriend likes to talk about her breasts, always in a joking manner and I would laugh along but I still feel envious. During the conversation that he had with her, she told him to tell me how to lose weight and he said that if he passed on the advise, I would feel frustrated at how I can't seem to lose weight like her. I asked him whether he actually said that to her and he said yes. He thought that I was open about this with her. Him telling her that made me feel worse and I felt depressed for some reason. I told him that next time they were talking about it to let her know that I am losing weight whether it was true or not. He asked me why and I replied I just didn't like the fact that she knows that I'm trying and not succeeding. He didn't seem to agree with me and I felt even more worse because I know he was right but I couldn't help myself from saying it anyway. His suggestion was for me not to feel insecure and to do something about it to solve my problem (not his words but what I gathered from the conversation that followed).

     

    In short, he was trying to make me feel better but it turned out to make me feel worse. And because of that I feel depressed. How can I stop this?


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    re: Insecure and lonely...
    Merely Me
    Saturday, August 30, 2008 at 09:17 PM

    Hey there...

     

    Reading over your question, I feel a little at a loss for words.  I am just going to wing it here and say that if your boyfriend is talking about another woman's breasts to you, yes that would make any girlfriend feel insecure.  In the scenario you are giving me, it isn't you, it is him.  Your weight and breast size have nothing to do with having a good relationship in my opinion.  Depression is usually about turning anger inward.  If you are feeling angry with your boyfriend, then maybe letting him know that directly would be a better option than beating yourself up. 

     

    I wish I could give you better advice.  Thanks for commenting and stop back and tell us how things are going for you.


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    re: re: Insecure and lonely...
    Insecure Girl
    Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 04:27 AM

    Okay, so what you're saying is that I'm not having some form of depression, right? Insecurities isn't one of the symptoms? To give you a clearer picture, he doesn't talk about her breasts as if he likes it but that he is making fun of it. But I'm thinking if he's talking so much about it, he's got to like it or something to be getting his attention so much. Anyway, I know he's not going to break up with me all because of bigger breasts. It's just some of the things he says that makes me feel sad inside. But I will take up your advice on letting him know how I feel about it, eventhough I'm probably going to expect him telling me that I shouldn't feel that way, etc etc. And I'm sorry to have upload my worries onto the wrong support group. Got to start somewhere...will let you know how things go. Or if you know any good support group that I can talk to to share my problems, that would be a great help. Thanks for everything.


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    re: re: re: Insecure and lonely...
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 08:28 AM

    Hey again...

     

    Yes do tell us how things go.  I will tell you right up front that I am not in any way qualified to tell you if you have depression or not.  I am neither a pyschologist nor a psychiatrist.  I am merely a woman who suffers from depression and writes about my experiences.  But if you are truly worried about depression maybe reach out to one of your local professionals if things escalate to where you are feeling like you could use some outside help with things, a person to talk to.

     

    Thanks for sharing your story here. 


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  9. Thank you
    Zathyn Priest
    Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 10:09 AM

    Thank you for writing such an informative and enlightening post.  I doubt their would be one person suffering depression, or other mental illnesses that hasn't heard those 'get over it' type stabs. 

     

    When I was diagnosed with PTSD last year my mother was quite supportive in taking me to the ER and staying with me on sucide watch.  About two weeks later that drifted away and I began hearing 'It's been two weeks, aren't you over it yet?'  Over PTSD in two weeks...the ignorance of some people shouldn't still amaze me but it does.

     

    Blogs like this are important, I hope you keep writing such insightful posts.


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    re: Thank you
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 11:29 AM

    Oh I am so very glad that you stopped by.  I am quite amazed by your blog and your ability to get the word out about depression.  I think almost every depression site or blog I visit has your link.  I look at it as we are all one community with a common purpose, to help and serve those who are suffering from mood disorders. 

     

    Please do come again and share your experiences and knowledge with us.  I would be so honored.


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  10. Very well written article
    Mr. Toast
    Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 09:21 PM

    Thank you for sharing your deeply personal experiences with the community. I can't tell you how much it helps someone with depression to know they are not alone, that others have "been there, done that" and managed to survive. As someone who has suffered from clinical depression on and off for at least the last ten years (and undiagnosed but likely present long before that), this is a struggle I face every day.

     

    One point in your article intrigued me in particular, that of comparing one's own situation to those who are less fortunate in an attempt to somehow feel "better". You are very correct in that this doesn't work. Ironically, this is not something that others did to me, but rather I did to myself: at times of severe depression I would think, "Oh, but I could be paralyzed in a wheelchair, or things could be so much worse in this that or the other way..." and then wonder why I *still* felt terrible even though I was "so much better off". While at the time I rationalized it as "trying to look on the bright side" (which is not necessarily a bad thing), I came to realize that trying to cope with my own negative feelings by highlighting others in greater misery brings a hollow and ultimately only temporary satisfaction.


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    re: Very well written article
    Merely Me
    Sunday, August 31, 2008 at 09:37 PM

    I am so glad you came by to read and to share!  You make such excellent points.  Misery does not go away through comparisons.  Each one of us has our own personal demons to deal with.  There will always be someone "worse" off than we are but that does not do anything to change the fact that we must still cope with our own pain. 

     

    Your words will certainly ring true for anyone who suffers from depression. 

     

    Thank you for coming by.


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  11. Glad it's not just me
    Anonymous
    Monday, September 01, 2008 at 10:12 AM

    Thanks for your words of encouragement on my blog.

     

    Recently I've had the "Just get on with it" - "You should be so lucky you have....." etc.   Like you say the guilt that adds to the already troubled head of mine that wishes the crushing feelings would just go.

     

    As ever a little digging finds I'm not alone and that in itself is useful.

     

    Thanks


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    re: Glad it's not just me
    Merely Me
    Monday, September 01, 2008 at 12:15 PM

    Sure thing!

     

    This does seem to be a predominant theme for folks dealing with depression.  It would be great for those who are trying to help a loved one to come and listen to so many voices say what does and doesn't help. 

     

    You are absolutely not alone and I hope you come back to share, read, and gain support.


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  12. i wish i knew for sure...
    lost little girl
    Monday, September 01, 2008 at 04:51 PM

    if i only knew for sure what was wrong with me, but more than hearing it from anyone else, I'M the one who keeps telling MYSELF to pull it together, 'chin up', work harder, do more, be more, watch the secret again, read another self help book... alas the emptiness & pain always return...

     

    i had a very rough childhood surviving abuse, etc. when i was younger i was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder & depression. i did a couple of years of therapy & anti-depressants, but havent had either for over 7 years...

    i have months when i'm 'fine' but then months when i'm not...

     

    i'm getting married in about 10 days to the most amazing man in the most amazing place... on an island. i should be ecstatically happy - but you guessed it - i'm not... i'm grateful & in love & his wonderful & i really want this - thats not the problem... the problem is that i still hurt because i cant 'get over' the rejection of my parents... etc. etc. etc. same old stuff.

    i'm 31 already & i really thought i would get passed this by now...

     

    wot if i need meds & i dont know it? i get very very low when i'm tired, & even though i've come so far & achieved so much, i still find myself wondering if this is all life is about? & even tho i have love in my life i still find myself thinking (& never telling anyone) that it would just be easier to 'check out'.

     

    this week is worse - cause everyone has an expectation of me to be the blushing happy bride & to be honest this is such a difficult time for me... both my parents have passed away & my brother & sister (my only other family) dont get on with each other or with me... i still mourn the loss of my innocence, years after the crimes & i still love the ones who hurt me & i still wish i had what so many have... a family

     

    i know i'm starting my own now & that brings me joy, & i also know that many many children - especially where i live in south africa have a far far worse / sad story than mine, & i know i have so much to be grateful for... but still the tears fall... am I just weak & do i just pity myself?

     

    i apologize for the long comment... once i start writing it just flows... your article just opened the tap & my fingers poured the words like the tears down my cheeks...

     

     


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    re: i wish i knew for sure...
    Merely Me
    Monday, September 01, 2008 at 09:53 PM

    Hey now...no need to apologize.  And you are not weak, nor are you pitying yourself.  I see you as just needing to talk to someone is all. 

     

    The one part of your letter here that does concern me, however, is the part about thinking of "checking out."  If you are having such thoughts I do want you to tell someone, someone near to you, someone who can help. 

     

    It seems that you have been through a lot and are about to go through a lot!  Getting married can be a lot of pressure as well as a lot of joy.  I would say it is perfectly normal to feel scared, anxious, and excited all at once.  There is an expectation to be and feel a certain way for these huge life events.  But only you know what you feel.  Allow yourself to feel as you feel but try not to get too overwhelmed.  Easier said than done I know.

     

    Again I feel the need to re-state that I am not a psychologist or counselor.  I am just a writer lady who suffers from depression.  So I am reaching out to you as a peer in this.

     

    It does sound like maybe you are thinking about seeking out someone to talk to again, perhaps a therapist or counselor?  If you are feeling truly overwhelmed then maybe it might not hurt.  This type of decision is totally up to you.  You have the power and control to decide what is right for you. 

     

    I am so glad you came to share here.  It sounds like you got to say some things that are on your mind.  Please do come back and tell us how things go and particularly your wedding.

     

    You hang in there you hear?

     

    We will be here if you need to share some more.


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  13. How ironic that we both wrote about the same thing!
    Michelle (The Beartwinsmom)
    Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 10:40 AM

    Hey!!! I'm SO happy you rediscovered my blog! I find it quite interesting how we're on the same wavelength about our topics. It really shows how universal depression is with us. I've missed reading your blog very much.

     

    We will need to catch up... maybe via a chat?

     

    Again, I'm very happy you found me again. It's nice to know I'm not alone.

     

    Hugs, Michelle aka The Beartwinsmom

    http://beartwinsmom.wordpress.com


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    re: How ironic that we both wrote about the same thing!
    Merely Me
    Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 01:26 PM

    Oh I am so very glad that you stopped by!

     

    Yes indeed...we are writing about the same topics!  I hope people also stop by to your site to read you.  You absolutely nail it as far as what is helpful and what is not helpful to say to a person suffering from depression. 

     

    Yes let's catch up somehow and please do feel free to share your experiences here.  This is a very supportive and warm community and I am finding that I am being helped so much more than I can give here.

     

    Thanks again! 


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  14. On-line Support Group
    Merely Me
    Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 01:31 PM

    Just wanted to add...some folks have been asking about a depression support group.  Health Central has one right here on the site.  I will give you the link now.

     

    Health Central Depression Connection Support Group 

     

    It is a forum format and it seems like there are a lot of wonderful caring people there who are going through similar circumstances with their depression.  So give it a try!

     

     


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    re: On-line Support Group
    Paulinyork
    Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 02:44 PM

    Thanks, Merely Me. After your own coulmn on the subject, it looks worth a look a look.


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    re: On-line Support Group
    Paulinyork
    Tuesday, September 02, 2008 at 03:02 PM

    Sorry for all those, repeating words, eg., the word "look."

    I did graduate high school.

    Nevertheless, you'd be amazed how much I am being helped here.


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  15. Thank You!
    Kai
    Monday, September 08, 2008 at 02:13 AM

    I love your story. I can totally relate. For so long I have felt this pressure and guilt that I cannot "snap out of it." For me It's not something you can cure! I have managed to find ways to cope or manage my depression and mood. For me it has been really important to find others that I can relate to. Reading stories like this and joining the Tribe (www.DepressionTribe.com) has helped more than anything. I find if I proactively do things that deal with my mood, it can't sneak up on me when I'm weak..

     

    Check out the Tribe at: http://www.depressiontribe.com

     

    Thank you for your story.


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    re: Thank You!
    Merely Me
    Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 04:28 PM

    Thank you so much for your comment and I will definitely check out that link!


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  16. Untitled Comment
    Roseeuro
    Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM

    Thank you for this, it has uplifted me.  I have had depression following a break-up of a relationship and it has now gone into all areas of my life.  I don't like myself, I feel lonely and I feel I have made so many mistakes, overburdened myself with financial stuff and have little money to live and have a social life and who would I see anyway?

     

    Do you have similar feelings?


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    re: Untitled Comment
    Merely Me
    Thursday, September 11, 2008 at 04:46 PM

    I am so sorry you have all of this going on.  Depression can affect every aspect of our lives...from our jobs to our relationships to our health.  Have I had some of these same feelings in my life?  Sure.  I can relate to these feelings.  I think a lot of people who have depression can.  Depression can seem overwhelming and quite often is. 

     

    I am glad you are reaching out.  Please do come back to read and to share. 


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