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Smomdukes
Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 09:50 PMre: Success
Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 09:51 AMWell Sherry...by your own definition then...you are a huge success because I know for a fact that you do help people...and I am one of them! I like crafts too...what kind do you do? Thing with me is...I rarely finish my projects...I have a huge box of unfinished projects in a closet.
Great to see you my dear...you have a wonderful saturday and beyond!
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I try to acknowledge 'smaller' successes...
LyraStorm
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 02:01 AMI'm often getting in trouble with my psychiatrist for this one - achieving things/feeling success. I feel I'm still striving towards it cause I want to be independent, acting, etc and he reckons I should feel successful/like I've achieved something because I've done some writing (I find it hard to agree with him because it's just little projects I've done myself, it's not like I believe any of it is really good enough to get published though from time to time I send stuff off to agents/publishers in the hopes that I'm wrong). I guess I'm still disappointed in myself because I used to be able to do so much and the last few years all I've managed is getting up in the morning, perhaps doing a few house chores, and maybe a bit of writing or solving a puzzle or two.
I do like helping people but I don't see it as anything to do with me: it's all about them. It's not a success on my part if I've managed to say or do something to make you feel better but due to yourself looking and working on the struggles... Having said that I do get a buzz when I've helped people, whether on here or elsewhere in my life (talks with my lil brother and helping him with assigments, talking my friends through tough times, sometimes helping friends out with assignments, etc).
Maybe I need to redefine success in my mind. I no longer need another to pat me on the back to feel I've accomplished something but perhaps I need to set the bar lower in my own mind... I think I've gotten a bit better at this but it depends on how bad a day I'm having. Sometimes the idea that I've completed a couple of novels does feel good, how many people have done that, regardless of whether they're good enough for others to read? Other times it annoys me that they're not good enough cause if they were I could earn a bit of money (I don't want to be rich, I just want enough to live on) and be independent... I crave my independence. I want my own place, earning my own way, that for me would be success...
Success for me means....
rose martin
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 09:01 AMHi Merely Me, everyone..If u asked me that 10yrs ago, I would have said, to be size 10 [your 6 I think] to get rid of my 'Belly' to get my legs back, to attract the right partner, to have a well paid job, nice clothes, lotsa friends,a good car,my 100pc health back. TODAY..SUCCESS to me is Doing the Very best with the Cards ive been dealt.
To have gone thru this life and made a difference, no matter how small. to keep on trying to make a difference, to be kind,thoughtful, human,not perfectionist anymore, to be able to love from the heart/live/write from the heart and most importantly to be able to allow myself to be loved ! To feel loveable. To be creative, To find out what God really wants of me here on Earth. To be Brave,courageous,unrelenting in striving for a better standard of living [healthwise physically and mentally] to help as many animals as possible. To be aperson that people can trust. To have a few good friends rather than a whole load of 'Fairweather friends'.To have the courage of my convictions. To be able to take critisism and learn from same. To learn more, to travel [entails feeling fear and doing it anyway] The Kernel for success for me will simply be my life hasnot been a waste. TO EXPERIENCE CONTENTMENT WITH MY LOT
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Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 10:01 AMBravo! Oh Rose...I love this! YES! These conclusions could only have been gained from much reflection and a wisdom of knowing yourself very well...to know what is important and what is not. Yes...to be happy despite the circumstances...that is the key to life's contentment.
Good stuff here...you should write a book!
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Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 09:59 AMHi Lyra!
Yes I would agree that we have to give ourself credit for the smaller sucesses. But sometimes what we view as a "small" success is really something big in the long run. Some days for me...survival is a success. Lots of stuff goes wrong but...hey...I am still here standing afterward and given another chance on a new day. Sometimes you have to wipe the slate clean of all the expectations and just begin again.
I do see you as someone successful as you are trying each and every day.
There are so many things which will hinder certain outcomes...so you have to let the outcomes go and just focus soley on the attempt...what you are doing to make things happen.
As far as your writing goes...just keep doing it. Don't let go of your dreams.
And independence? Well most of us are interdependent...we do need other people and there is nothing wrong with this. You will find your way. I have a lot of confidence in you!
Thank you as always for sharing your experiences and thoughts here. I admire you very much in how you are eager every day to get up and try. That is what it is all about.
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fifi
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 10:18 AMHi everyone. For me to feel like I am a success would be, to stop beating myself up about the things that I haven't achieved,and to be happy about all the things that I have achieved and to stop telling myself that I should be doing this and I should be doing that, to be a better person and to accept that people love me for the way that I am . for me. Thats a tough one. Also to get over my extreme shyness because it stops me from helping people and doing the things that I want to do.
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Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 10:05 AMHi Fifi!
I do these things too. And I am also shy and to boot...socially awkward. It is all the more diffcult for us to do things and especially in the social realm...it is that fear thing. Oh yes...and abandonment...this is such a common fear for so many of us who have suffered loss and trauma as children. One thing which may help is the thought that you can always trust in yourself and your abilities to get through...anything.
I love our discussion here as they are so real...and get to the heart of the matter. It is so nice to be able to talk in this way. Thank you.
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Judy
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 03:56 PMI've had to think about this one. Success, for me, would be to first figure out what my greatest passion is and then do it which is basically discovering what my gifts are and what use to make of them. I still feel like I don't know what I want to be when I "grow up" and here I am, retired already! I also think it would mean to stop believing the negative voices and accept who and what I am and not have this constant anxiety about what needs improving. I'd also like to know that I've somehow made a difference to people, particularly my loved ones, but also to those who are less fortunate than I am. And, this is certainly not the end-all list, but another would be the satisfaction of helping/enabling my kids to achieve whatever it is they want in life - having given them that freedom to decide for themselves and not base it on what they think their parents want them to do, or passing judgment on them for their choices. I want for them to hear their own voices telling them where to go, not mine - one of the big things I would have wanted for myself, I guess. Well, I'll stop here, I'm sure the list is longer! Hope everyone has a good week-end.
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Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 10:08 AMOh this is a great list Judy! I am still figuring out what I want to do when I grow up too! I have thought about so many things but there is only so much time and energy. I think this could be an exciting time to write these passions down.
Today success for me would be to have a clean house. Ha! Not gonna happen but I can dream.
Very glad to see you and I hope you are enjoying the day!
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Anonymous
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 05:29 PMDear Merely,
you sure now how to pick interesting topics. I understand that you are a special humanitarian person. What you say describes much of my intentions and my particular understanding of success. But is it relevant for the younger people? Look at the dictionary and it gives you two distinct answers: Success 1) The favorable outcome of something attempted; 2) The attainment of wealth, fame, or position. Younger people usually understand success to mean the second definition. And can we blame them? Look at the movie stars, rock stars and CEOs raking the millions. If it was up to me I would limit the amount of money that an actor or rock star, for example, can earn. Is an actor so much better of a teacher or of a plumber or of a doctor or of an artist? No. And this is why wages should reflect the fact that all professions are needed. If it was up to me an actor would be able to get a limited wage not millions. What sort of message does this send to young people? And look at the stars often drunk, on drugs or ending up in rehabilitation centres. They are not a model for our young people. Yet they do become a raw model. Like sport people also making millions. I think that a society based more on socialism (of the kind that we have never achieved) may bring the world to some sort of order. At present we are putting on a pedestal the wrong people who have the wrong morals. Therefore we cannot blame our young people if they fail to understand the first terminology of the word success. And this is what I mean when I say that our ideology is all wrong.
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LyraStorm
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 10:22 PMYeah young people dream of being rich and famous but that's because the world circulates around money - ever been without enough? It sucks. And actors get millions of dollars because they are getting their share of the earnings made from the movies they make - if they didn't get that pay packet it would all go to the producers, etc why is that fair? Also that's only the actors that get real success, lower actors barely get enough to live on, plus no retirement plan. If you're earning money in the acting industry your boss doesn't put a few dollars into a retirement package everytime you get a pay check, so you hope you get successful so you can save up for when you can no longer work... just a thought. It's not all roses and candy you know, it's hard work and I believe they deserve it when they get success - after all there are a lot of drawbacks like people invading your personal life all the time (everyone else gets to go home after their jobs) and the possibility of losing your income just around the corner all the time (who knows when the last paycheck you get is literally the last in a fickle world like a TV/movie one?). There are pros and cons to every job.
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Anonymous
Friday, July 24, 2009 at 11:37 PMDear Lyra Storm,
I do not agree with you. Not all actors make big money but those who do make millions for one movie? I don't care who gets the money actors or producers or whomeve. It is not right. Look at the wealth of the world in the hands of 5% of the population and the rest goes with little money. How is this fair? The world belongs to all the people not to the rich at the expenses of the poor. I do not agree with you.
Ciao
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Anonymous
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 01:43 AMYes Lyra,
some actors and rich people try to give back by donations or charity work but what they pocket is still too much even considering donations. In a just world there would be enough for everyone (and there is). What we are talking about, like it or not, is called greed and it does not work. It does exist and we know why people like to get more and more money but it is pure greed. In a good society once taken care of our immediate needs (like an adequate house to live in, enough food and enough possessions like a computer, a car and all the needed things) all the extra money should go back to the people. We live in a greedy and unfair world and this is coming to an end fortunately.
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Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 10:18 AMAlfredo...you always have an interesting take on things!
Yeah it does seem that there are only three or four "stars" in the world judging by the magazines and tabloids. But there are a good many actors and actresses who do contribute so much to our lives...imagine not having the respite of a good movie? I do love TV and movies...this is part of my life...to let go and forget my troubles for awhile.
As a tangent...I am watching a series called "Rome" right now...I bought the entire thing on DVD...it is absolutely magnificent.
But back to what you are saying...yes the world is an unfair place. People make kaboodles of money doing all sorts of things we might not deem as so terribly important. But this is human nature...to see "success" in terms of wealth, glamour, or power. But then we see how terribly unhappy so many "successful" people are...enough to drive them into an early grave. I would much rather be small and happy than...larger than life but empty inside.
And I don't think this is just a young person issue...plenty of us older folk fall prey to idol worship and seeking the superficial aspects of success. I think younger people have a lot more going on than we give them credit for. They are smart and savvy and do have outstanding values and the energy to pursue upholding those values.
Anyways...you certainly always get me to thinking and babbling. Thank you for your thoughts.
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ladygraycloud
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 08:41 AMA year ago I would have said to make sure family is happy and well taken care of to the best of my ability--butnow-Just making thru a day without pain or regrets, my family has become my care takers and don't mind it, am I surprised, yes, because they have always assumed I would always take cI never wanted to be a burden on my family-especially my kids-I have always said I would gladly go into a home so not to make them make a choice of taking care of old Mom!!-But my kids are 13,10,7 and they don't seem to mind at all that there are times we can't do something or go some where due to Mom not feeling so good-My son (10) tells he rather be home with me then me be in a hospital!--So to feel success I already have that. I have a family that loves me and friends that help and love me--I am SUCCESSFUL!!!
take care and hope the same success for all of you.
ladygraycloud/Suzanne
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Merely Me
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 10:23 AMHi Suzanne!
This is such a wonderful perspective. I think you are a success because your family loves you and you love them. Nobody asks to be ill. It happens and the love of family is so important. I am so very glad you are able to share this part of your life with us. You help others who are going through similar circumstances.
Good to see you my friend! You have a great day!
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CJinLV
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 12:53 PMI would definitely agree with the points you've mentioned. Personally, the one additional thing that makes me proud is knowing (privately) that I somehow made a positive difference in someone's life.
In reality I believe those 'little things' we do on a daily basis (holding the elevator, waving someone on even though you have the right-of-way, etc) make a real difference; small, but significant.
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Smomdukes
Saturday, July 25, 2009 at 06:04 PMAlso, are you making a difference, and if so what kind of difference. Personally I do not want to be famous, I do not want people to know what I have done. What ever I do I do my best to fly under under the radar. If I do something for someone I try to do it in secret, because I do not want anyone to know that I have done anything for them. For instance, in my church if someone is sick or it it their birthday, I will make a handmade basket or card or one of my crafts, and on the card I will put SHHHHHH! on it, the success comes in is when I see them smile, and I know that they have been made to feel better, "job complete. Most of the time, they cannot hold it in they have to telll it, I get embrassed! I just bought the "CRICKIT Machine" that you see advertised, I am going to use that thing to death look out folks! But that is how our contribute success to the outcome, I am a giver, I have no money, but I have always been taught that you never receive with a closed hand, and I have to job!
Go figure! But I consider myself a success! OK I am finished! sherry/smomdukes
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Ricovring
Monday, July 27, 2009 at 09:04 PMSuccess must be an attitude, is my first thought, because we all know that there is no arriving. I like your answers, Merely Me: doing thee best you can. It's like aiming at a target and getting as close as you can. Talking to your maker and letting Him comment
on your direction. Passing your last fears and moving forward, getting up after a fall, admitting your mistakes. I'm willing to be humble enough for stardom, not ever for the
money or fame. I think stars are people willing to stay in the heat. It must take discipline to burn in public. I don't see celebs as having an easy ride. that sounds like
a victim perspective. I've known a few stars, they were never undisciplined about using their gifts.
Why do I feel tingly after I write here?
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tmcd
Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 08:18 PMFor me success is being simple, being real, being honest. Now that I know what I'm up against and how to realistically deal with it, I have realistic goals for myself and I don't take on more than I can do no matter how much I would like to. I've come to a place in life that I've found my own peace in and that is surprizing and success. It's uniquely mine, I cherish it.
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Angela
Friday, July 31, 2009 at 09:58 AMSuccess for me is making it through another day with my senses and emotions intact. It is making it through another work day without having to leave early because of emotional breakdowns. It is being content with my own dreaded existence when I lay my head on my pillow at night. Success is making it through everyday situations without breaking out into a shaky panic. Success is most simply survival. Any day that I survive myself is a success for me.
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For me success, is when I have helped someone else. If I can make someone else feel better, then I feel better, for me it is a two way street. I also love doing crafts. People tell me all the time, that I should sell my crafts, my anwser is always NO. Whatever I make I give away, payment for me is the smile, the joy on the receivers face. Then I know, Job well Done! sherry/smomdukes