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How to Know when You have a Bad Therapist

By Merely Me Saturday, August 01, 2009

I was visiting a friend the other day and telling her of my recent misadventures in therapy.  She suggested that I should have a new reality show called "Merely Me goes to Therapy" and every week I can showcase the bloopers and blunders of the helping profession.  Now don't go stealing my idea!  You can tell by my tone that this is going to be a slightly sardonic post.  It is true that I have become a bit jaded about therapy recently.  Know that I do believe in therapy.  When therapy is good it can literally save your life from despair.  But when it is bad I believe it can cause more harm than good.

 

I have personally experienced both sides of the coin.

 

When I was in my twenties I had the fortunate experience of finding one of the most skilled and effective therapists I have ever been to.  The thing was is that I found him through sheer luck.  I was going through a very bad depression which had me crying at work.  My best friend and co-worker at the time led me back into his office and made a call for me to set up an appointment with a psychologist.  I spent zero time searching.  My friend did all the work and it only took minutes to get me hooked up with someone.  The therapy I would end up receiving was life changing. 

 

I believe that therapy can be compared to dancing.  When you see dance partners who are connected then the dance appears seamless and easy.  But when you see two people dancing who have no connection you pay more attention to counting steps or technique.  You are made aware of how difficult dance can be if you have a bad partner.  It is no longer fun and is more of a chore to keep your toes from being stepped on.

 

It is my opinion that so much of therapy is based upon the connection you have with your therapist.  I don't care what kind of method they are using, if you aren't jiving with your therapist on a basic human level then the therapy is not going to be effective.

 

The traits which my first therapist had which I am finding to be rare included:  Having ethical standards and appropriate boundaries, allowing me to lead but never letting me wander too far from the topic at hand, able to validate my thoughts and feelings, showing a gentleness when the subject matter could cause great anxiety or distress, but also knowing when to challenge me to take the next steps and move forward with my goals.

 

This therapist helped me through the worst of my depressive episodes when I felt I could cope no longer. When I finally left his care I felt as though I had truly accomplished something.  I was given the tools to not only survive but to find some happiness.  For this I will always be grateful.

 

I have given you an example of how therapy can be good for you.  But when is  therapy "bad" and even harmful?  I am always giving the suggestion here to try therapy.  And I do believe that it is a good idea to try.  But also know that there are therapists out there who may not be helpful to you and it is helpful to be discerning about who you choose to be your therapist.  You will be spending a lot of time with this person.  You will tell them very intimate things.  You may be spending a lot of money out of pocket or through your insurance.  You deserve to find the best therapist for you, someone who can truly help you to reach your goals.

8/ 4/09 12:08pm

i had a therapist who broke confidentiality.this was years ago.i stayed with her but i think it still hurts a lot.we both lived in the same town & i got too much in her world so i guess i played with fire & got burned.she didn't seem very sorry either.i sure felt like tearing her to pieces but i never did anything worse than throw a kleenex box.when she told me i cried the whole hour.therapists are supposed to keep their mouths SHUT!!!! i'm too damn loyal i stayed years after that.i really am a doormat!

8/ 4/09 2:54pm

Hi Janet

 

Yeah...that is a big breach of trust to break confidentiality.  That is just simply not excusable for a therapist to do.  But you are not a doormat.  You probably just want to believe in people. 

 

I am really sorry that happened to you.  Do you have a better therapist now?

8/ 4/09 3:07pm

i've had several since including 1 who told me she was in over her head with me after a month & a 1/2 or 2.i was mad@ her & myself.i figured her education certificate came out of a cracker jack box.she wanted improvement in 2 months or forget about it.the therapist i now have i've had only a few months & i thank God for her.i also thank God for the clinic being affordable!i've paid more & gotten a lot less treatment. thanks merely me for being you.you're so nice to me.

8/ 4/09 3:22pm

I am so glad you have somebody good for you now.  That is so important to have someone you can talk to and to trust.

 

Awww well shuckaroo...of course I want to be nice to you.  You deserve no less.  You are very valued here in our community.

8/ 4/09 5:04pm

you are good for my ego. you make this turtle want to peek out of her shell.i'm more out of the shell than i used to be.

8/ 6/09 7:32pm

Yes Janet come on out here...we like to see you!

8/ 7/09 12:09am

oh gee shuckseroo Embarassed

8/ 4/09 12:13pm

I can't say that I've ever had a bad therapist before, but there was a time when I was about fourteen that I was sent to the school therapist. The only problem that I had with it was that I knew him and his family personally, which made me uncomfortable. I was too shy at the time to speak up and say how I felt about it. I have problems doing things like that because I have a huge fear of hurting people's feelings. Luckily, I think he got the feeling that I was uncomfortable and they found another person to work with me.

On the other hand, I saw a school therapist this past year in high school who's daughter is a close friend of mine, but I felt very comfortable talking to him and I trust him. I think I became more comfortable with myself in the years in between these instances. I also think the fact that my parents didn't personally know the second therapist helped.

8/ 4/09 1:49pm

Hi Merely Me,everyone,   Ive only ever had 1 exceptionally good therapist who was also extremely expensive [worth it] but I couldnt attend for long ! Terrific.

I have this idea of a Play in my head, it involves a woman visiting both her Psychiatrist and a pretty awful Therapist.  I would classify my present Counsellor/therapist as ' Cosmetic and Antiseptic'  and Im being kind.     Shes full of fear and afraid to really 'connect' when she does, she blushes and fidgets.She has the emotional facial expressions range of a refridgerator Door, it doesnt move. Shes got perfect hair, perfect legs, perfect nails and she stifles yawns, shes not comfortable around certain subjects and will quickly move you on. Her body language is closed. Funnily enough i like her, Im not paying, if I were I wouldnt be there.  I go there because I cant afford anything else and she does set Goals for the week which is good for me.

8/ 4/09 2:56pm

Yeah...trust is so very important.  You have to feel comfortable to talk or it just isn't gonna happen.  It is sometimes a hard process to find someone compatible but well worth it.

8/ 4/09 2:58pm

Hi Rose

 

LOL...your therapist sounds like a character!  But hey if she is helpful in other ways then maybe it is working out for you.  How is the work on your goals coming along?

8/ 4/09 3:10pm

Hi Merely Me, Shes hilarious, like i was saying, a play; shed be the ideal of what a counsellor shouldnt be like, yet on a human level, I like her. Weve nothing in common but I find her well.. shes no bad in her and I do get to do the Goals which is Good Merely Me , things like meet someone for coffee which at certain times can be a huge thing for me. Its also somewhere to go, once a week. that in itself is therapeutic.

I feel if youre not happy with yours that you should change. Its an extra stressor in your life that you dont need. A Therapist is limited by their own psycology and by their own politics etc so she/he could be great for someone else. I can relate to the Bear Hugging  - I had a huge guy and he nearly smothered me, its abit much !! take care of yourself  x

y

8/ 4/09 3:14pm

Hi Rose!

 

My bad therapists...they are so outta here.  I will definitely not be going to those individuals again.  Perhaps this may seem nutty but instead of therapy that day...I am  going to be taking a belly dance class with a friend!  I am going to have some fun. 

 

Thanks for thinking of me...you are sweet.

8/ 4/09 3:26pm

Merely Me,  Therapy and therapists. A professor of Psychiatry once told me that once your over 40 your personality traits [whatever the cause] anxieties etc are formed and that no amount of churning them over will help ! Just letting you know !

Then in myDay you went back over things, I found after a while, that just didnt do it for me,quite the contrary, seemingly I now know the mind doesnt know the difference between the thought coming up and being spoken about and the actual situation so that would explain coming out of sessions wiped out and feeling dreadful , with no great results.

Now the New Therapy [as you know] is the here and now, Where do we go from here..

BUT for me BELLY DANCING is great therapy, I went before the Arthritis and I had a ball, it was just such an exotic and fun experience, it releases tension, makes you celebrate your womanhood, your Goddess within so go for it, cant think of anything more healing ! Jingle Jingle Jingle [its exausting !!] You HAVE to wear the costume !!

8/ 6/09 11:26am

school counselors are the worst!!

Thats where the abuse started!!!

Aghh!!!!

Jon

12/27/10 5:47pm

boy was I sick back then

the imaginary

8/ 4/09 4:10pm

Well, my story is I stuck with this therapist for six years because I was afraid of not being able to find somebody better, even though I had insurance.  She used to shame me by telling me I was too dependent.  One day she said "I think you're just looking for a friend and I can't be that friend."  No kidding?  Another time, she said, "We should talk about your diagnosis, which is personality disorder.  That means you will walk around for the rest of your life with a hole in you that can never be filled."  Now, this was after having worked with her for some time and it was news to me.  I went to the library and did some reading about personality disorders and then I wanted to kill myself!  She also used to take personal phone calls while I was there and was always 15 - 30 minutes late.  I always felt like she just had no time to deal with my depression.  We were in family therapy for a while and she decided that I couldn't come for individual therapy at the same time.  I finally blew up about that.  Toward the end, she said one day that I had a spiritual vacuum and that I might as well end therapy right then.  She called me later and said my spiritual vacuum wasn't my fault.  I ended up calling her later and saying how angry I was, so she had me come back and she apologized for how she had handled things and then made another appointment!  I thought, "Huh?"  I'm not saying she was of no benefit at all, but I know I put up with way too much and didn't realize how bad she made me feel until I got away from there.  I think I shocked her when I went in one day and said it would be my last session. 

I have a great therapist now, thank God, she's not perfect but she'd be the first to say that.  If I tell her she doesn't understand something, she takes the time to learn more or to consult with others.  I really do believe that saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher appears."  It's true what you say, Merely Me, about the relationship being the defining factor - if that's not there, you can't build enough trust to do the work you need to do.

8/ 4/09 4:27pm

Oh my goodness Judy!  That therapist showed OUTRAGEOUS behavior!  Ugh!  I am sorry you had to put up with that.  I know...it is so hard...I always felt like if I leave I am a quitter or...I will hurt their feelings.  But now...I am more assertive.  If you aren't getting what you need...it is time to go.  Of course compromises should be made...nobody is perfect and there are no perfect therapists but...there are definite boundaries and expectations. 

 

Yeah...when I asked one of my bad therapists about "Is there hope?" he said he was quoting Neitsche as he told me...."Hope is the opium of the masses."  Isn' that great?  LOL  I was like...gee thanks doc. 

 

Where do they find these people?  Sheesh.

 

I am glad you shared here...I feel less alone.  I keep suggesting to others...see a therapist but I should add...see a GOOD therapist.  They are out there.  Just hard to find sometimes.

8/ 5/09 3:01pm

Hi Judy, Your therapist sounds the pits ! Did she make that Diagnosis herself? She wouldnt have had the medical knowledge to surely? it sounds like it was nearly a death sentence, well, an emotional Death Sentence, you ll walk around your whole life with this vacuum ! much like a Doghnut!!    She sounds like one unhappy woman. Yes, there are many bad therapists out there, here in Ireland, unless you can afford to pay for a good one, the Health services tend to have ones like I just described. I guess beggars  cant be choosers.   I'd love to say 'Youre absolutely awful' 'your body language is all wrong, the way you sit closes you off emotionally, youre not supposed to yawn and fidget !' but shes all I have, and something is better than nothing ! Laughing

Anonymous
nurse
8/31/09 1:39am

Karl Marx said,"Religion is the Opium of the masses."

Anonymous
nurse
8/31/09 1:39am

Karl Marx said,"Religion is the Opium of the masses."

Anonymous
Kylan
8/ 4/09 9:30pm

Hello,

 

I want some help and advice... I've been loving someone (a long distance relationship) for almost 2 years now. I really love him and I want to have a relationship with him, but he keeps putting me off and telling me that he can't have a relationship because he was going through a divorce and didn't want to fail at a relationship again (he's been divorced twice). I've been honest and straightforward with him and told him the truth about how I feel about him, and he's still reluctant, even though he has feelings for me.

 

What do you think? I really want to be with him? Do you think he can do it?

 

Thanks

8/ 5/09 10:33am

Hi, Kylan.  I don't think anything is impossible, but it's not surprising that he is being cautious since he's already gone through two divorces.  Plus, maintaining a long-distance relationship can be difficult and can make it easier, too, to put off making a commitment.  It sounds like he might not be ready to make one yet.  It took my husband a couple of years to finally want a permanent relationship and ours wasn't even long distance, he just had some other issues he needed to work out that I didn't know about at the time.  I think the less pressure you put on him, the more comfortable he might feel in coming to a decision for himself; I know it's hard, I felt like I went crazy trying to convince my husband that we were good for each other, but by the time I had decided I was going to move on by a certain date unless he committed, he asked me to marry him!  That's always made me think that anything is possible and dreams can come true!  I hope yours does and if it is supposed to happen, it will.  If it starts feeling like too much work, that might be a sign to move on - you will know.

 

Hope this helped a little.  Good luck.

8/ 5/09 3:10pm

Hello Kylan, Im back on the Dating Scene again, and know what? nothings changed !

Men still  like to be the 'Hunter' and if a woman seems 'needy' or 'clingy' that used to be me but Im determined not to be ! it turns them off, they feel overwhelmed. This guy probably has feelings for you but theres so much on his mind and his emotions are probably all over the place. Id try to fill your life with other things. That way you ll be more attractive to him, not waiting for his phone calls, or worse still not making the phone calls ! Give him space and let him see youve other things in your life, that way you ll be the princess, not the doormat,. Im not suggesting you are ! Just, have you ever noticed how the guys you dont fancy ending up being so into you? why? coz youre not needy or clingy with them, youre fun and yourself ! Maybe dont wear your heart on your sleeve for the moment. You look after yourself. I sure hope this works out. Long distant relationships are difficult... thats from expererience. I hope Ive been of some help. Sometimes you have to pull every bone in your body and try not to make that person the centre of your life. Its hard to pull back, but it can re ignite the spark, and if it doesnt there wasnt anything there in the first place. Besta luck.

8/ 6/09 7:36pm

Hi Kylan

 

Well...I remember something from the Oprah show where she said something like..."People tell us who they are from the beginning...we just don't want to listen."  So do listen to what he is saying.  It may be awhile before he is ready to commit.  What are your expectations?  What happens if he cannot or will not meet those expectations?  Would you be able to move on? 

 

It is a hard thing what you are going through...I wish you the best of luck.  Please come back to let us know how things are going for you.

8/ 6/09 1:05pm

I had a doctor who spent most of the hour talking.  His favorite topic was how my husband needed to quit smoking and how I needed to tell him so.  I was seeing this doctor for treatment of bipolar not as a spouce of a smoker.  He was also critical and/or make jokes of some of my behaviors that were inappropriate during a manic phase.  The worst part was that he seemed to think that the best way to treat me was to keep me drugged up so that I could hardly function.  He was always sending sample medicines to me to adjust my behavior, many of which just made me physically sick.  For several years I was too afraid to change doctors.  Now I have a doctor who listens, is not critical, doesn't just change my meds every other appointment, and talks less than I do.  I would urge anyone who is uncomfortable or displeased with their doctor or therapist to make the necessary changes as soon a s possible as finances allow. 

8/ 8/09 12:02pm

Hi there

 

I am so glad you switched doctors.  I am so sorry you had to put up with a bad doc.  What made you finally decide to drop him? 

 

Thank you so much for sharing your experience here.  You are helping others in doing so.

8/ 9/09 5:16am

I am embarrassed to admit I was afraid of changing doctors because I was afraid of what a new doctor might do or say.  I was forced into change because of insurance changes.  I suppose better late than never applies here? 

8/ 9/09 5:16am

I am embarrassed to admit I was afraid of changing doctors because I was afraid of what a new doctor might do or say.  I was forced into change because of insurance changes.  I suppose better late than never applies here? 

Anonymous
Still Searching
8/ 6/09 1:22pm

My first experience with a therapist/psychiatrist was wonderful. I was refered by my ObGyn after a experience with a miscarriage and subsequent health issues following.  He actually refered me to a therapist in a group and sent my medical history (with his clinic, with my consent) and she looked it over and suggested I see a psychiatrist that also did therapy.  He was very good at diagnosing and she thougt it would be more beneficial to me to see him. Which it was.  Until he retired.  I started to go to a new psychiatrist who refered me to a therapist in the clinic.  He was nice, I made progress for a while.  He had me in a group for anxiety and did wonders. I saw him one on one, and I felt he did the "too much information" of his own experience.  So, I stopped seeing him.  I was hospitalized for depression and was picked up by another pshychiatrist in the same clinic, but different building. He suggested I see a therapist, and I did, but I think both of us knew it was not a good fit in the first meeting. She suggested I go into a group for Bi-polar's.  The therapist who did the group was wonderful. I asked to see her one on one and she took me on.  I was with her for about 3 years. Until she retired.  So, I tried someone in private practice, she was good at first, until she found out I was adopted and wanted to work on my "abandonment issues".  I have always known I was adopted. I didn't/don't have a problem with being adopted. So I dumped her.  After no therapy for a while, I went back to the big clinic practice, and found someone I thought would be good, until she found out I get migraines. Then it was all about that, how I should attend the headache school her and a neuologist ran. So I dumped her.  I have been seeing a psychiatrist in private practice now, and she suggests therapy, and she has given me names of therapists to try out, but I just haven't had the motivation to do it.  My husband has been after me to make an appointment, but he has seen me go through therapists and kind of understands how difficult it is to find one that fits.  I feel like finding a therapist is trying to find "Mr./Mrs. Right".  I know what I want and need, and what I don't want or need.  Seems like I keep finding the wrong people.  Ugh! I know that therapist is out there, but finding him/her is frustrating!  I feel like it takes a few sessions to get comfortable, and then that is when I start to realize, this person cannot help me.  So, find a new one, go to a few sessions, and hope that this time, I find the right fit.

8/ 8/09 12:07pm

Hi there

 

Wow...you have seen it all I think.  One experience I have not has is being in group therapy.  Perhaps I will explore that sometime.  I hear you in how frustrating this process can be.  Geez...it is like dating or something...finding the right match for you.  Nobody is perfect but in my opinion some of them should not be practicing as they cause harm. 

 

I am not seeing a therapist right now and I need some time just to regroup and think about what I do want. 

 

Thank you so much for sharing the details of trying to find a good therapist.  I wish you the best of luck.  And please do keep writing here. 

Anonymous
Anonymous
8/ 6/09 9:51pm

I definately can relate to what you are talking about in this article.  My therapist I have been  going to for awhile now, is alway trying to tell me what I am doing wrong and what I need to be doing. So I

 have been asking myself is it me or her.. alot lately?

8/ 8/09 12:11pm

Hi there

 

Yeah...it might be time to re-evaluate things.  I would discuss it with your therapist so you are on the up and up about your concerns.  Sometimes things can be remedied but...ultimately it is your decision.  Are you being helped?  If not...it can be time to look for someone who can help you.

 

Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us!

8/ 6/09 11:12pm

Hi guys,

I've had good therapists and better therapists. The therapist I have now is the best.

She uses EMDR (eye movement desensitization reprocessing), talks to me about anything under the  sun before we start, and is happy to chit chat any time in the middle. My recovery is moving into territory I would not have thought possible. I have rejoined the human race!

I like the sense of humor I'm finding here.

8/ 7/09 10:25am

Your therapist sounds a lot like mine - maybe she IS mine! Surprised  It is great when you find a person you can connect with so well.  We are some of the lucky ones.

8/ 8/09 12:13pm

EMDR?  I am not familiar with this type of treatment...would love to hear more about it.

 

I am so glad to hear you have someone good to work with...it is so very important!

8/ 7/09 8:02pm

My beloved and I were ordered to have counseling, our daughter accused us falsely.  Our blind counselor and us sat at opposite ends of a double room prim and proper!  She really got us upset and we were in tears, wouldn't hold each others hands which is unusual for us.  Anyway, immediately afterwards and the entire week we were our usual self.

It didn't take too long to figure out there was something wrong.  We stopped counseling immediately after 6 weeks! 

We had one counselor, we have had off and on for 15 years.  The 3 of grew to be friends.  Once we hadn't seen her for 5 years were in different cities, when my husband needed her assistance and no one else, we are still friends.  God chose her for us, obviously!  She brought us through our worst years with our daughter, though she never came home.

8/ 8/09 12:16pm

Hi there

 

I am sorry to hear about your daughter.  If you are able...we would like to hear more of your story.

 

I am glad you finally did get a good counselor...it makes all the difference in the world.

 

Thanks for stopping by and for contributing to our discussion!

Anonymous
nurse
8/31/09 1:09am

 

  I went to see a therapist because I feared I had cancer, in addition to this I was off work without pay for three months recovering from an injury.  I had to move from our Townhome of five years because my landlord didn't accept partial payments, I have an autistic daughter and the move had put stress on her.  I went into a huge depression during this time and in addition I was dealing with constant pain from the injury.

 

  I went to see my new therapist and at first he was very helpful, he said the basic "think positives" and told me to try to relax.  I thought,"Geeze I wonder why I hadn't thought of that?" Next he starts telling me that he also had medical problems and his bills were in collections, he kept saying how important it was to pay the bills.  I was upfront that I couldn't pay more than forty dollars for the next 3 months because I had lost everything, he agreed to see me anyway.  After that he said I was in danger of a "nervous breakdown" and had to see him every day for the first week and then once a week after that.  I said I worried about how I might pay him, he said don't worry about it, he could wait. I started seeing him around July 10th, I am writing this August 30.

 

  During my last session I waited two weeks before the next appointment, this upset him and I knew it was because he couldn't run up my bill.  I arrive to the appointment trying to explain that my memory was becoming severely impaired from sleep depravation after I returned to work, I work nights.  The medications I use to help me sleep were not solving the problem and maybe making my memory worse, I told him I felt my life was in a mess because basic things like finding keys and closing doors were becoming problems.

 

  Out of the blue he says,"your life IS a mess and you blame everyone else, you think there is a magic wand that will make life better.  Life is unfair and it will always be unfair and sometimes tragic, there is nothing you can do about it.  You think things are getting better when you are not making appointments and now you don't even pay your bills?  After all I've done for you I expect you to pay me something!"  I asked why he never billed me an invoice or why he never submitted an insurance claim and he says,"Well I don't know what kind of insurance you have, they probably won't pay me either and now my medical bills are going into collections because of it."  I totally freaked out and told him forget getting anymore appointments out of me, that he was a nut!

 

  Now I am seeing someone else and waiting to see what kind of charges this guy puts on me, he really hurt my feelings and if I was feeling depressed before, I left his office feeling really bad because I didn't have anyone to talk to anymore about my fears of cancer.  He never once asked me about my cancer, he only talked about himself.

 

  Buyer beware,

 

 Anonymous

8/31/09 4:12pm

Oh man!

 

What to say?  That is absolutely HORRIBLE!  ugh.

 

I am so sorry that this happened to you.  He didn't seem interested in helping you at all it seems.  And not to even help you with the fact that you have cancer...that is just inexcusable. I am glad you got away.  I do hope this next one is credible and helps you!

 

Wanted to say...I have a son who has autism.  If you ever need any support or information...I have a ton.  Listen...I am also writing for Friends of Quinn here on Health Central and I think you might really like this site.  Just follow this link.

 

I am really glad you reached out here today.  It is a good warning to people to beware...not every therapist is going to be a good one.  Makes me mad for you that you had to waste your time and money on bad therapy.

 

Thank you for your comment and I look forward to hearing more from you!

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/21/09 4:19pm

Against my better judgment but in great distress because of a recent breakup and depression I went to see a therapist at the recommendation of a woman that I worked with.  At my first meeting with this therapist I expressed my concern about her treating me as well as my coworker who technically reported to me.  We talked about it at length and her response was that professionally she could handle this without a problem and that in her experience what she typically found especially with women was that the women began competing for her attention and affection.  This response troubled me and I told her this - it sounded like she was turning the tables and trying to blame her patients - and asked for a referral.  She told me that she could refer me to her partner but she didn't know if her partner could help me but she was absolutely 100% positive that she could help me.  I should have run for the door and never gone back but I was desperate and vulnerable and I fell for it. 

 

Fast forward several months and my coworker raised a sexual harassment claim at work and I went to bat for her and was ultimately terminated for this reason.  This coworker proceeded to do some seriously crazy and scary things - she sought out my ex-boyfriend and tried to seduce him, stabbed me in the back (repeatedly) at work after I had risked my personal and professional reputation for her, began sleeping with another coworker who was in a long-term serious relationship and moved into the apartment above him and then immediately went for my job when I was let go.  After all of these things happened it made me wonder if she had made the original sexual harassment claim up or had been sleeping with the guy all along as well.  During this time my therapist would chide me and tell me that I should treat this womes as a rape victim and should be very forgiving and non-judgmental of her behavior because the original sexual harassment incident and traumatized her.  I asked my therapist What about me?  What about what happened to me?  I don't have a job and was betrayed and attacked by someone that I thought was a good friend - who I trusted and always stood up for... I asked her how someone could do something like that to a person that was there friend and she said to me well I hope you are never put in that position.  I left feeling worse then when I came in - I felt hopeless and I felt like I was complicit in my own demise.  I discontinued therapy because I didn't have a job - not once did this therapist express concern for what I was going through or offer me any kind of discount or alternative fee arrangement. To be fair therapy is a business and she was under no obligation to do any of those things once I stopped my treatment but I think as a patient you should never forget that.

 

After one month I went back to her to express my anger and try to get closure and lo and behold she had an earful about my former coworker - she spent the entire session telling me that this person was dangerously and psychotically jealous of me, had frayed personality disorder with severe narcisstic character traits and that I should be very, very careful.  I was so shocked and taken aback that I didn't have the wherewithal to confront her about her breach of confidentiality, her complete reversal in opinion about this person and most importantly what she meant by why I should be very, very careful. I also wondered what she was telling my former coworker about me?  I shudder to think.

 

This experience was so traumatic fo rme - I'm not articulating everything that I went through (especially during the course of the therapy which included no dating for six months and a recommendation to stop seeing my family) but this experience profoundly shattered my trust in the mental health profession as well and it pains me greatly to write this my trust in other women.  Therapists can be very dangerous people and they can cause an enormous amount of damage to people who are in crisis and lack the judgment they would ordinarily bring to bear on something this important. 

 

I'm still out of work suffering greatly from severe depression and anxiety and wondering what it all meant and what I could have done differently to protect myself.  If I knew what I know now when I first went into therapy I would never, ever have gone near this therapist or my coworker.  I couldn't imagine a depression worse than what I was going through when I started seeing this therapist but this experience has taken me to the blackest depths I have ever experienced and damaged my faith in God and people in immeasurable ways.  I pray daily for healing and restoration of all that I lost.

Anonymous
Amy
12/ 4/09 9:26am

I had a therapist as a marriage counselor, who was also seeing my husband as an individual.  He initially worked hard to gain my trust. However, as time went on he became abusive, screaming at me during sessions, refusing to listen to me, blaming me for all the problems in our marriage. My husband knew how to push his buttons, and I think would tell him things that just made him crazy.Since neither one of them would discuss what exactly I was supposed to have done to deserve this abusive behavior, I don't really know what was going on.

I finally walked out and refused to go back. We see a very good professional marriage counselor now, who refuses to take sides and is very fair. But, I still have a lot of anger towards this therapist, I wonder why I didn't walk out a lot sooner. And I am angry with my husband for manipulating this guy. But lately, I have started to developa sense of humor about it. And I think it's like the Aesop's tale "Any excuse will do for a bully".

What's amazing is the idea that someone who was as dominating and controlling as this guy has managed to stay working in therapy. And believes he is good at it- when he's a total incompetent.

 

 

Anonymous
disequilibrium
11/25/10 3:47pm

I had co-therapists, both bullies, who screamed and scolded. I was correct to fear leaving them--they became enraged and said everything possible to belittle me and intimidate me into staying.

 

It's taken me years to sort out what was mine and what was theirs, and most of it was theirs.   Things would have been easier had they not led me to believe they were so powerful in the first place.  There's very few books for people who've gone through this.  I even turned to professional books  and many of them blame problems, like my therapists did, on the client.   I wonder why so many therapists seem to avoid the subject of all the damage they can do.

5/ 4/11 10:44pm

About a month ago I was seeing a male therapist. He was terrible. The second session I said to him that I have tons of clothes all in great shape, neat and organized but I have no more room to buy, and I dont want to feel compelled to buy, I just want to enjoy what I have and own these clothes forever. So instead of him replying: "Ok lets work on why you feel the need to buy" he says "OH Buy one and get rid of a clothing item you have when you do buy" Well this infuriated me and I told him that session and the next session how angry I am at him. I told him he did not listen to what I want to do. And he retorts "OH I heard every word" I told him off via a letter and never went back. When I called my insurance company to tell them what happened and that I want a different therapist they could not believe what this idiot of a therapist told me.  They told me that it is very bizarre, that no therapist will tell a client/patient to get rid of their clothes, or anything they own, that is not a therapists job.   This therapist should have his degree and license taken away.

He knows how important all my clothes are to me, so I think he probably wanted me to get rid of a clothing item so I would feel anxious after getting rid of one and then I would be hooked in seeing him for life. I might report him.

Also during the session he would ask me what I did socially the days before I saw him and what I was going to do after the session was over.

5/ 5/11 5:14am

Aaaaarghhh!!!

 

I always knew that I had been blessed with good therapists, but I never realised that there were such hopeless charlatans out there!

 

To any of you who come from therapy wanting to thump your therapist - find a new one!  Please, find a new one!

 

I am going to stick my head above the parapet now and let you know that I now work in Mental Health here in the UK.  At least, having read that catalogue of errors, I will know what NOT to do (not that I would anyway).  So many of those things are not only deeply unhelpful, they are unprofessional to the level of this person needing disciplanary action.

 

As you guys would say - Geeeze!

 

Dith 

 

(When I finally qualify as a counsellor here in the UK, does anybody want an appointment?  My rates will be reasonable - honest Cool)

5/ 5/11 5:17am

Btw, if anyone thinks I was inappropriately touting for business at the end of my previous comment, please be aware that I was kidding.  Irony does not work well in the written word!

Anonymous
FrustratedSpouse
5/19/11 5:25pm
Any advice or thoughts... What if the bad therapist is your husbands? He ignored his primary goals and is pursing his own agenda instead. The therapist self publishes books and has asked my husband if he could quote him in his next book. They are a mutual admiration society and my husband is getting markedly worse. I feel like all they do is sit around for 45 minutes stroking each others ego's. Well that and assassinating my character. It got so bad I threatened to divorce my husband because he has become verbally abusive towards me. I begged him to discuss his decline with his therapist and to his credit he did bring it up. The therapist completely ignored the concern, and suggested I am trying to undermine him. My husband seems to agree, which doesn't surprise me since he has agreed 100% with everything this guy has ever said to him, which includes diagnosing him with an anxiety disorder with zero testing. My husband never exhibited anxiety symptoms before this, now he does constantly. I've benefited from good therapy and I have been subjected to two really bad therapists. One was a marriage counselor that was seeing my husband individually as well. I should have known better. Actually I do know better, but she offered the marriage counseling at no extra charge so I figured it was worth a try. We only met five times, she kept trying to get me to take responsibility for my husbands problem. He was addicted to prescription pills and she thought we should deal with it by me keeping them away from him. I don't mind doing that but the problem all along was he was sneaking them from me behind my back. His breaking open a safe to get at them became my fault because I didn't buy a strong enough safe! When he said so in a session and she agreed with him I knew I had a problem. He quit seeing her on his own, but he has told me he likes his current guy so I have no hope of that. So how do you open someone's eyes to the fact that their therapist shouldn't be their buddy, ought to be able to state treatment goals three months in, and should have some answer when you tell them your spouse sees new harmful behaviors and a general decline in your day to day mental state? How do you tell someone that if they never question anything their therapist says, and their therapist never challenges anything they say, that is a problem? Or that the fact that you have not been open with them about your history suggests you don't trust them as much as you claim to... I'm looking for a good therapist for myself to help me decide if a lawyer is in my future. Maybe that is all I can do, but I would love any suggestions. Once upon a time we had a great marriage, I really miss it.
Anonymous
thekayminators
1/30/13 2:30am
Hi merely me, Thanks so much for your article it was really helpful. I would love anyone's input tho. Initially when I was a teenager I had a very bad therapist who spent the first few months putting me down, critisizing me, calling me a liar, calling my parents and apologising for who I was, constantly emailing me when I lived overseas, when I moved home- hitting on me, sitting next to me very close uninvited and taking me into a room down a long corridoor on an empty floor trying to convfeelings I had feelings for him!-that was the last time I was there!! (not so helpful for a now diagnosed bpd & c-PTSD sufferer and first experience in therapy).this is definatly unacceptable stuff! Since then am happily married and 9 years later got myself a pretty good phycotherapist referred to me by my phyciatrist whom is the only doc in the world I trust implicitly. So far so good, Iv nearly been there a year, I didn't want to have a man but he's been alright, he's professional and good at his job. But since returning from holidays hes been in the most foul mood ever. I can read him no matter how hard he tries to hide a bad day which is ok. But not when he's sarcastic, and has started to blame me for not being committed enough etc because I have been doing so great the last few months. Fair enough he wants to make sure my present shift in thinking and happiness is true. But I feel confused and upset when I leave. Is that normal? Do therapists 'test' their patients well-being? He hasn't been happy for me at all and feel like it could be a pride thing because Iv figured out a few things on my own and am reading and studying to get as well as I can. It's been 4 sessions like this and I'm starting to get worried.... Any insight on this would be soooooo helpful! Thank you
1/31/13 12:03am
I'm sorry you had a terrible first experience with a therapist. Good ones in my experience are hard to come by. Your current therapist should never ever be sarcastic with you or blame you. Their job is to help you. This behavior is most unacceptable. And his bad mood, yes we are all human, but in his profession his clients should not be able to tell of his bad mood. If he's in that bad of shape that you can tell something is wrong with him,then being a therapist you would think he needs to take time off to get his own life straightened out. His mood alone could be why he has started to behave unprofessionally. Regardless of his mood, his behavior is unacceptable and unprofessionally. You shouldn't leave the office feeling this way. If I were you, I would find a new therapist right away. You could ask your pdoc to recommend one for you since you trust her so much. Good Luck, Crystal

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By Merely Me— Last Modified: 05/16/13, First Published: 08/01/09