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Challenging Yourself
Judy
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 09:56 AMre: Challenging Yourself
Merely Me
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 10:57 PMThanks so much Judy! You are too kind.
You have a lot of courage to deliver a eulogy...wow...I have never done that before. I bet you felt proud of yourself for doing it.
When I was speaking I kept thinking about you guys and how safe and at home I feel here. Writing is my element. This is where I can be myself. But it was an honor to get up there...I was probably the worst speaker but hey...I did it and...it was a tremendous growing experience.
I am very glad to be back...I am still trying to catch up!
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fifi
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 11:45 AMYou are so brave, and it shows how much it meant to you to be able to do that. It must have taken a lot of courage and you did it. I missed you too when you were away it's not the same when your not on site and the others like Rose.
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fifi
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 11:45 AMYou are so brave, and it shows how much it meant to you to be able to do that. It must have taken a lot of courage and you did it. I missed you too when you were away it's not the same when your not on site and the others like Rose.
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Judy
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 11:10 PMJust wanted to let you know - Rose is doing okay but going through Effexor withdrawal and has been really tired and not feeling well, so I think she's eased up a bit on the time she spends on line. I hope she doesn't mind my saying this, but she's talked about going off Effexor, so it's nothing she hasn't said herself. I keep in touch with her, she's such a sweetie.
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no easy delivery
jpw2008
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 03:42 PMI'll tell you the truth
When I look at peoples comments on here
I'm surprised I can say anything
Thats why I never went out with anyone
I never communicate with mom
I try to avoid all conversation if possible
Jon
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LyraStorm
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 at 08:25 PMHi Merely Me, thanks for sharing your experience with us. Though you undoubtedly felt terrified before the event I bet you had a little bit of a rush after when it all went well and you didn't do any of those things you worried about (like freezing - I think you should be especially proud about that one because it's human nature to repeat our mistakes: once you freeze once it's easier a second time cause you're focused on the first time. You broke past that! You should be so proud!!!).
We all missed you here but I'm so glad you were able to face a fear like that. I guess I just find it so empowering when I pull off facing a fear I just want others to get past theirs too and feel the same thing.
Congratulations, and again thanks for sharing it with us (I could feel myself there, shaking along with you and then cheering you on when you succeeded).re: Untitled Comment
Merely Me
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 11:20 PMHey Lyra!
Thank you so much for your kind words.
You know...afterward I sat in the back of the ballroom with my bosses and...one asked me, "Do you feel proud of yourself?" and I said yes but...honestly all I felt was shock. I was so wired that I did not come down for days.
Now I am like...yes I really did that!
I will be thinking of you on your long plane ride and journey to LA. I hope you don't get too anxious and that you have fun once you are there.
Hurry back to us!
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Past fears
Ricovring
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 at 11:25 PMFirstly, congratulations MM, I'm proud that you made you conference talk. Though I have not had the privilege to speak at a conference, I have faced my similar fear of speaking and have come to know that speaking in public can actually be a fun and rewarding experience every time. My fear had a strong hold on me from practically high school to age 50. Only in the last few years have I put that behind, by starting small and moving on. Junior college speech class with a loving instructor, was my entry. Now at Toastmasters, I have learned to be confident in almost any forum. But I would caution you in one way, and that is not to make yourself frivolous, i.e. pick your battles when you can. My perspective since entering the speaking arena has been consistent with my over all outlook that gifts are given for service, and growth is for more service. Just because I can talk in public does not mean I can now blabber. Restraint and brevity are still admired.
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Merely Me
Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 08:35 AMThanks for the tips!
No...no blathering for me. I had all of five to seven minutes to tell my life story and why I do what I do on Health Central...I had to be very concise. Next time I hope to feel more relaxed. I was terrified. But I did not shake so this is good!
We will see if I get to speak again...if anyone lets me.
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Merely Me's Debut
Anne
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 11:50 AMGood for you. Your feelings of positivity about support and tranformation truely touch me.
Hope you give more speeches.
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You and Speaking in Public
Vicki
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 05:06 PMHi Merely Me,
It sounds as if you were great, as I knew you would be. Of course, I did not know about your experience with Sylvia Plath.
It is hard for me to imagine you with low confidence. You certainly are good at instilling good feelings in others.
Thanks for the story, and for the Mark Twain quote. I use his quotes, but that one needs to be used more often. Here, for people who are depressed and need to feel a little extra hope for saying the right thing, on the MS site where people need to feel a little extra hope for not deteriorating into total disability, on the . . . well everywhere, because we all need our own type of little extra extra hope to get through the day.
Next time you are called on to speak, think of this instead of your Sylvia Plath story. It may take awhile, but you can do it. After all, you spoke in Pennsylvania!
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Merely Me
Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 08:41 AMHey Vicki!
You always know the exact right things to say to me. It is funny...when my speech was done and then we had questions from the audience...I was absolutely relaxed when I was just answering questions. Why is that not fear inducing but giving a presentation...is?
Speaking of MS...I have an MRI on Tuesday. Wish me luck. I have gotten used to those and all the loud noises and being cooped up in there. I don't enjoy it but it doesn't produce the anxiety it once did. Just hope they don't mangle my veins getting the IV in.
Okay Miss Vicki...I hope you have a lovely weekend and I am so happy to see you come wandering over to this site. You are wonderful...hope you know that.
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re: presentation
jpw2008
Thursday, November 05, 2009 at 05:12 PMI have been depressed for a while now.
I have been in a discussion about emotional wants and needs.
It is much clearer to figure out physical needs and wants than with emotional ones
If you have any idea where I can get help
Let me know
Jon
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rose martin
Friday, November 06, 2009 at 06:32 AMHi Merely Me and all, Wow, its nice to know Ive been missed and also caref for.
In the midst of my withdrawals and pain with same, self loathing has been trying to nest in my hair and to read the enquiries for me was heartening, tks.
Merely Me, I think youre brilliant, it would take a few times to get you confident.
My boss was to give about a half hours talk to the Catholic 'Hierarcy' Bishops, Priests within an area where theres alot of poverty. Half an hour before I was to go, the priest from Church beside me came in and said 'rosemarie Charlie cant make it, youre going to have to address the 'Congregation' how many? about 200 Rosemarie. Rosemarie went straight to the loo and those words were a great Laxative. My BP rose, I went into a complete panic.Dizzy,Vertigo,....
I went up on the Podium and it was a large hall filled with men, [no women] you could hear a pin drop. Coughing, clearing throats began, my face was scarlet, I had vertigo. I can remember addressing them.. The 1st thing I said was 'Ive been thrown into this by my Boss and havent any speech prepared, Im panicking like hell, my hands are sweating and Im going to faint. Bear with me !
No laugh, just a room of black and white staring back. Hell !
So, I started about the poverty around where I was working, about the single mothers coming into me, many with multiple partners through lonelness and self esteem issues, how they lived in substandard conditions etc, the men and women on the streets, but I went on to say, that in 'Flatland' where I was working, not one of these people ever had a visit from any of them. Yet they had time to play Golf, I ticked them off and said how a visit, a kind word, some of Gods word would make their lives abit better, how i understood, homeless people dont always smell too good etc. somehow I got through. Feel the fear and practically faint. At the end, there were handshakes and I was treated like royalty, the Bishops spurned me but alot of the priests came over and said it had made them think, but my reward came when a homeless man billy, who was an unmedicated Schitzophenic had gained access at the back of the hall, he came over and hugged me tightly with3 coats on,smelling of ciggies and whathaveya and said 'Rosie you showed em' Merely Me I know how much courage it took, I applaude you.
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Merely Me
Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 08:48 AMOh my gosh Rose! What a story! You really should consider publishing some of your stories...they are that good. I hear ya about the laxitive part. LOL It is something my sister does speeches for a living and she throws up before each talk. She said she was in the bathroom throwing up for one conference and there was a famous children's book writer in the next stall throwing up too before her talk! So even pros get nervous. Proud to say...no vomiting for me! Then again I didn't eat anything the day I gave my talk. But after...I made up for lost time.
Glad to see you Rose...we need you here!
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rose martin
Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 09:00 AMHi MM thats so funny [sorry lol] but just thinking of a professional throwing up !
Id prefer to throw up , its quicker, neater and easier to wash away in the basin or toilet, the other is just awful... I was told that practice made it easier ?
Obviously thats wrong. I DO know a well known actor who still gets a massive Panic attack EACH time before he goes on Stage. He says the Adrenaline gives him the rush then to put his all into the acting.
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Merely Me
Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 08:44 AMHi Jon
Sorry to hear about your depression. Where do you find help? Where you can get it I suppose. I hope you are helped some by coming here and interacting with other members.
When in your life have you been at your best? What was going on in your life to produce those conditions?
Hope you have a good weekend...keep talking to us.
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rose martin
Saturday, November 07, 2009 at 08:53 AMDear Jon
Emotional needs - A sense of Safety, A sense of some type of financial security, A sense of belonging, a friend, be that online, 1 person to confide in,
something to take yourself away from yourself, ie a hobby, interest, not essential but helpful would be a good relationship and a good sexual life with lots of hugs. Hugs are emotionally and physically healing, Belonging to a group is a biggie in the emotional needs, that can be being American, being in a church, or support group, having people with the same beliefs, or problems or things in common. We need to be valued... this can come from sorting out clothes in a thrift shop /2nd hand clothes shop, helping out in a shelter for the homeless. I hope this has helped Jon. Sorry youre low I know just how you feel. Physically - if you could try get out today for a walk ? look at Nature. Ignore distractions that annoy you, let me knowhow u get on Jon.
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jpw2008
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Well, MM, you now have your own big answer that you asked us last week - how have we challenged ourselves lately. That ought to take care of a couple of weeks' worth! I could just imagine how you felt, being one of those who would rather be in the coffin than giving the eulogy! You're right, I think thinking about the reason you're there and what you want to tell people can help calm you down. I actually did speak, for the first time in my life, at the funeral of a good friend of mine about six years ago. I was a nervous wreck, because he was a friend from work in the management ranks (I wasn't) and his peers and upper management were all there. My legs were shaking, my voice was shaking and I just pretended those other folks weren't there and tried to focus on his family. But, I was asked if I would do it and I felt I owed it to my friend to let people see another side of him, one that was humble, courageous and blind to social standing. He did everything at work by the book and it cost him some promotions, but he could sleep at night.
Anyway, thanks for sharing this and you know the feeling is mutual. You are always so supportive of all of us and this site wouldn't be the same without you - I really felt your absence while you were gone! I'm glad you got to have this experience, it's something to really feel proud of. Now, I know of a group that's looking for a speaker....
Judy