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Depression & Difficult Relatives on Holidays: Journal of Stress, Harsh Words

By Merely Me Monday, November 16, 2009

The holidays are coming!  Run for your lives!  What makes one wish to go to a deserted island for the holidays?  Could it be the pressure for perfection, the stress of getting everything done, and how do I put this gently...the relatives.  Thanksgiving is but one holiday where there is extra emphasis upon family harmony and togetherness but what happens when things aren't exactly so darn harmonious?   Getting along seems much easier when you are interacting with people one on one.   But for some reason something less than magical happens when you stick a large group of individuals together near a platter of turkey and mashed potatoes.  Chaos. 

 

Can anyone relate?

 

Once upon a time long ago, the Pollyanna in me decided to make Thanksgiving dinner for my then fiance's family and my own.  We would get them all together at one table and it would be lovely.  At that time I was in my twenties and still very wet behind the ears.  I had these visions of family laughing and talking into the evening hours with glasses raised in a communal toast.  The food would be picture perfect and new traditions would be started with our generation.  Uh huh.  And turkeys can fly. Actually I have heard they can fly a little but not much.  But I digress.

 

The first thing that I failed to understand at such a young age was that one member per family owns each holiday.  It is a simple fact but so true.  In asking family to come to MY Thanksgiving dinner I was violating this very important rule.  "But we always have Thanksgiving," was the instant reply. "Well this year we want to have you guys over so you won't have to do all that work," was my cheerful come back.  "But you have never done this before are you sure?"  Of course this triggered my defenses as in this person is telling me I can't pull this off!  "Yesssss I am sure," I seethed.  How hard could this be?

 

I found that the physical work to make this happen was nothing compared to the emotional stamina I would need to make it through this one dinner.

 

We didn't have much money back then and lived in a small apartment.  I quickly found that we also lacked many of the items necessary to create a big feast.  Like for example, a gravy boat.  Let's just say that gravy wasn't an important food staple to us in our day to day life thus we never had a reason to buy a vessel to contain it.  But on Thanksgiving gravy is pretty much second to the turkey.  Of course it was Thanksgiving Day when we discovered our lack of hidden gravy boats in our larder.  "WHAT WILL WE PUT THE GRAVY IN?" I groaned with the emphasis that only all caps can convey.  My fiance's solution was to use a milk glass bowl his grandmother gave him which had a little ladle to go with it.  I looked at this offering and knew that this was all wrong.  I didn't know much about gravy or gravy boats but I did have a gut feeling about how gravy should not be presented.  "It is either this or a cereal bowl," he reminded me.  I quietly acquiesced.

Kate, Editor
11/16/09 11:04am

I just love this piece. You sum it up so well in the first paragraph -- so much so that I read the whole thing aloud to my co-workers and they laughed and nodded their heads in agreement. We can all totally relate. Why do the holidays have to be so stressful?

11/18/09 5:49pm

Awww thanks Kate!

 

I know...why do they have to be so stressful indeed?  Maybe this is just a rite of passage that we all must survive. 

 

Can you believe it is already going to be Thanksgiving?  Where has the time gone?

11/16/09 11:24am

Hi

I dont celebrate Thanksgiving

I do appreciate that it is good to be thankful

My friend died yesterday

I am glad we got to spend as much time as we could together

I am angry at the world

Every time I go outside I am reminded

Of the hate the world has

And disunity too

I am thankful to be alive

dont know how many days I have left

JonUndecided

11/16/09 12:12pm

Dear Merely Me, and all...

We dont have Thanksgiving here, there's Halloween and then Christmas. Already theres the frenetic build-up.With the economy so bad, parents are under huge pressure to supply the 'goods' from Santa.  I hate anything where 'family' is the nub. Not having a 'real' family, I am invited out to Christmas by relations I dont see for 12months and we all play 'Happy Families'. I feel v excluded and feel I'm acting in a play. There's an exchange of expensive gifts as they're well off. The Car pulls up outside where I live and I invariably get the mobile phone call to say 'We're here to collect you'. I waddle out with bags of presents.  So,I guess, Christmas is my thanksgiving but it still fills me with angst and dread and loneliness.   I loved your story MM about the Gravy Boat.

Its great to improvise and you sure did that ! 

I wish you all a very happy thanksgiving over there !!

11/16/09 12:17pm

Hello Jon,

i'm sorry to hear your friend died, thats the 2nd friend that has died in a few months, right? thats hard.

When you are grieving, its hard to  be enthusiastic about anything, especially anything where you have to be 'happy and upbeat' . For the moment accept that you are sad, grieving. I keep, We keep saying this Jon but do you have a Counsellor/therapist to talk these feelings over with ?

Are you doing any exercises or getting outside this time of year to alleviate the awful feelings of emptiness Jon?

Be kind to yourself at the moment. No laws say you have to celebrate  a Holiday or Special Day. Write your feelings down and get talking to somebody professional.

11/16/09 1:11pm

Hi Jon,

So sorry to hear about your friend.  Death brings on so many emotions depending on the situation.

I used to enjoy Thanksgiving so much. More than Christmas even.  All the family around the table, mom cooking her little heart out.  Now the only time our family gets together is Christmas and when mom is in the hospital.  Sad but true.

 

Alot of different support groups I have been in tell you its best to keep a journal of how you are feelings.  Someone also said when they have trouble doing things because of depression they write those things down and cross them off the list when they do them.  I guess that holds yourself accountable. I think I will take their advice on writing down my blessings because I just don't feel happy about them.

 

Take care Jon, we are always here to listen and help you during your time or need or happiness.  Just keep sharing

11/16/09 2:49pm

Sorry Jon to hear about your friend. Thats so sad. I hope you have someone there to talk to.

11/16/09 6:26pm

Jon, I too am sorry about the loss of your dear friend, and I know the loss runs so deep.  I hear the sadness and anger in your post and you have every right to those feelings!  But I hope in time you will settle into the comfort of wonderful memories of your friendship.  My brother just died.  I felt so sad, but found memories of us, both good and bad, drifting into my consciousness.  Time will help the hurt, I believe.  Gina 

11/16/09 8:18pm
Jon, I am sorry for your loss. Your grief is probably coloring everything around you right now. Yes, there is a lot of hate in this world, but there are also many, many good people that we don't hear about who are helping to make it a better place. Most people are just trying to do the best they can; thinking that the world is just a bad place isn't helpful, it will keep you locked in pain. I hope you can find a way to escape from your misery for a little while, even if it's just to watch the birds. Let us know how you're doing.
11/16/09 10:45pm

Hi Jon,

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, though I think you've done very well at trying to focus on being grateful for the time you had together. It's not an easy thing to do when you're hurting so. I see your friends death has reminded you of your own mortality... I wonder if there is something that you can do to make yourself feel better about that. Is there anything that you want to do but keep putting off? Sort of like that movie the bucketlist. Do it in your friends memory and to celebrate the fact that you are still alive - maybe it'll help the world look less bleak if you are doing something you enjoy.

Sorry again about your friend. Lyra

11/18/09 5:51pm

I am really sorry to hear about your friend Jon.  You have had a lot of loss lately.  I had lost a good friend of mine some years ago on Thanksgiving so the holiday has a lot of sadness for me too.

 

 

11/19/09 8:31pm

Right on.

11/16/09 12:25pm

I too loved the piece you wrote.  I could envision your experience every step of the way.  When I was young we had Thanksgiving either at my grandmother's or our home.  Both were terrific cooks and we had a total of seven in our own family alone.  So out came the 25lb turkeys!  At our home everyone enjoyed the festivities except that all afternoon and into the evening everyone was getting drunk, including me! (I was a bit wilder then!).  No arguments at the table, except for my father's need to criticize somebody.  Now, I just wouldn't tolerate a meal there.  My parents are both deceased.  So then we switched over to my in-laws home.  Now that was stressful.  They didn't drink, which was good, but we all dreaded hearing my husband's mom dominate the conversation, and I always felt "on the ouside" of things.

 

This year was so different.  My husband is walking the very difficult road through cancer treatment of his throat, so by Thanksgiving he won't be able to swallow.  So I got this idea to celebrate Thanksgiving before treatment started.  It was just the two of us, and a big turkey with all the fixings.  I even had a gravy boat!  Under the circumstances it was so personal.  We are alone down here in Georgia, so no traveling and no stress.  It was lovely!  Family members do miss us and I no longer feel on the outside after 24 years of marriage.  But they do understand our circumstances!

 

I'm sure by next year we will be back to the family gatherings.  By the way I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!

11/16/09 1:15pm

Stardust,

OMG it sounds like you were in my family.  Thanksgiving used to be my favorite holiday but no more.  The family goes every which way and now my husband and me are eating at home  by ourselves.  Both of our families get together on Christmas .

11/16/09 6:08pm

MACEYMOM,

 

I think that is a great compromise!  Too much of family too soon can get old fast, with Thanksgiving back to back with Christmas.  We're going to have a doubleheader this year on private holidays, as my husband's treatments don't finish until a few days after Christmas.  I will miss some family company by then, for sure!  It all sounds so good until it happens, as MM noted. Have a happy one!   Gina

11/17/09 7:35am

I hope your husband is doing ok with the cancer. He is in my prayers.  It is better for your both without the stress of the holidays to just sit back and relax.  God bless you both and have a happy holiday season. 

11/17/09 1:29pm

Thanks MACEYMOM, and we appreciate the prayers.  Happy holidays to you too!

11/18/09 5:57pm

Oh stardust...I am so moved by your story.  That is really special...such a thanksgiving...I can totally picture you and your husband sitting there and enjoying such a meal.  I wish the very best for you and your husband...I am so sorry he has to go through such a thing as cancer.  How are you holding up? 

 

Please do keep writing here...I want to know how things are going for you.

11/20/09 4:42am

Dear Stardust - I am glad that you managed to have some romantic, lovely intimate quality time with your Husband. I am sorry to hear about his throat treatment and  hope that the treatments will mean he has a better quality of life. It was a lovely idea, just being alone on Thanksgiving Day.

11/16/09 12:34pm

Great story, Merely Me - and I can really relate with the relative who was late because she was drinking wine to make it through!!  It's true - you have to think of it as one day to get through.  It does help if you have a spouse or someone else you can roll your eyes with in the kitchen where no one can see you.  And again, there's wine!

 

The worst Thanksgiving I can remember was almost 20 years ago, at my parents' house.  This was the first time I'd seen them all year because, due to memories and flashbacks I was having,  I had decided to take a "break" which made me the black sheep, anyway. When I hadn't been in contact with them, I'd get periodic letters about how terrible they felt that I wouldn't talk to them, my siblings would tell me that they'd start crying if my name came up - it was horrible for me to hear all that.  So, I had told them I'd be with them for Thanksgiving, ending the estrangement.  I got a letter from my mother afterward saying she'd been praying for this day, but now wasn't sure if she really wanted me there.

 

My siblings and I were sitting at one end of the table, laughing about Thanksgivings in our childhood when we had the "kids' table" and our cousins would make us laugh with their gross antics like flinging mashed potatoes at each other, etc.  Right in the middle of it, my mother said, "Who says you had a terrible childhood?"  It was like you could hear a pin drop.  I wanted to get up and leave, but just ignored her and changed the subject.

 

I hadn't expected it to be wonderful, but it was so hurtful and I realized that my mother is incapable of empathy for anyone else.  That's probably when I stopped expecting anything from her but it was probably long before that, this just made me realize the depth of her narcissism.

 

So I don't end on this depressing note, I just want to say that later, I would like to talk about all the things I'm thankful for.  Thanks for listening!

11/18/09 6:06pm

Oh God Judy...that is horrible!

 

Why would she do that to you?  So what happened after that?  Did you ever go back?  Just curious...did your other siblings understand that this was not right for her to do or was her issues just taken as...normal?  This happens so often in families...that there is an elephant in the living room with a family member being very dysfunctional and...the others in the family just go along with this and pick on another family member who has just said the truth.  Am I making any sense? 

 

I...just feel so bad that you had to endure such a thing. 

 

I hope now that you can enjoy your holidays in peace and love.

11/18/09 11:19pm

I'm almost laughing about this now, Merely Me.  Not a thing was said about it after that, I don't even know what my siblings thought, although I think at least one of them was pretty disgusted.  Before I stopped contact with my parents that year, I met with all my sibs and told them why, while sitting in a therapist's office.  They hardly said anything.  When I tried to talk to one of my sisters about things that happened to me, she didn't want to hear about it.  I've always thought that if one of them told me this story, I would have a million questions, would want to figure it out if I had no idea what they were talking about.  No one asked, not one question.  Yes, my mother is the elephant in the living room and my dad is another one, with his violent temper (although age has mellowed him, somewhat).  I don't have much contact with my sibs except for the sister closest in age to me (I'm the oldest), it's like there's nothing there.  Luckily, my husband has always been "on my side" and that makes a big difference!  Thanks for asking.  I don't have to spend Thanksgiving with them any more because they go south for the winter!

11/19/09 2:59pm

That's almost my family.  I stopped contact (although he would say he did) with my alcoholic father about 4 years ago.  I had been dealing with a great feeling of loss over a childhood filled with violence and emotional sabotage for my entire life.  When I left home, I rarely returned as every time my father would emotionally abuse me and others around me.  My mother was the classic enabler and funny enough, it was hardest for me to come tp grips with the fact that she would *always* put my dad ahead of her kids, would always be covering for him and protecting that sick relationship.  I am over 50 now, but it wasn't until a few years ago that I finally realized my mom wasn't the person I wanted her to be.  It first came to me when she refused to come help take care of me after a major knee surgery, and many years later I was talking to my aunt (her sister) who told me no matter what the excuses were, she didn't come because she didn't want to.  That my mom was in her way just as selfish as my dad.  I love my aunt, she is so much more of a nuturing soul, that many times I wished she was my mom. 

 

My fondest memories of Thanksgiving meals is the ones with friends, not with family at all.  My friends are closer to me than family; they don't carry all the emotional baggage of the past into the room with them.  My best thanksgiving ever, was with about a dozen friends when we were living in a remote alaska village.  I had raised 3 turkeys that year, and saved the biggest one for that holiday to share with our close friends.  I had to buy a big dish pan to cook him in as he was too big for any conventional roaster.  The meal was wonderful, everyone was all smiles and distended bellies by the end of the evening.  That day, I felt closer to these friends than I had ever felt with family.

11/19/09 6:11pm

Thank goodness for your husband Judy!

 

yeah sometimes family is um...not the most healthy thing for you.  I am glad you are doing better about this.  I know it is hard.  Thank you for telling us your story...you are very brave. 

11/19/09 6:20pm

I like this story Jeanne

 

Yep...sometimes friends are our family...it is true.

 

I am glad you found some happy memories with your friends.  Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us.

11/16/09 2:46pm

I really enjoyed reading your sharepost Merely Me. You write so well.

 

Yes family get togethers can be really stressful. I remember having my hubbys parents and sisters over one time. I was only about twenty two and wanted everything to be perfect and to show my mother in Law I could cook just as well as her. I was so proud of myself when bringing in her Turkey dinner, til I caught my sleeve on the kitchen door and I threw it all over the floor.

 

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Hope you have a great one!

11/18/09 6:22pm

Oh no!

 

I am picturing this...you poor thing!  I hope they were understanding and nice.

 

Thanks so much for sharing....

11/16/09 11:07pm

Hi Merely Me, what a picture you paint! In Australia we don't have Thanksgiving but for me I doubt it would be that great anyway. Except for the few times in my childhood when my parents had saved up to go to England over Christmas (where the main majority of our family is - grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins etc) it was always just me and my immediate family celebrating the holidays so other than a tree, presents, and a fancier dinner (with crackers, hats and better cutlery, etc) it was the same old, same old from any other time of the year really.

 

Nowadays I'm seen as the Scrooge of the family. I hate holidays and refuse to join in. It happened slowly over time with me gradually speaking up more and more about my hate of socialising. One year my Mum used me as an excuse not to celebrate Christmas with some neighbours who I think invited us cause they knew we just spend Christmas lonesome (just the five of us). In truth she didn't want to go and didn't want to appear rude so she just used me because everyone knew by then how anti-social I was. Another year I was guilted into going to spend Christmas with some extended family that live about an hour or two away who suddenly wanted in our lives (I was in my late teens by then) - I said that they could all go (the rest of my immediate family) but I don't want to and they said we spend Christmas together as a family so if I don't go nobody does. What could I say about that? Deny everyone the chance to have a proper Christmas with other people instead of just us five? See - guilted into it. (How odd it is that this year my Mum, the real champion of 'we are a family we do things together' is going over to England to spend Christmas with the rest of our family leaving us, her immediate family, alone in Aus!!! I mean I don't celebrate Christmas but still, it hurts that in the past I was guilted into participating when now this happens!)

 

Still, like I said nowadays I don't have anything to do with it. I don't exchange gifts cause I hate the idea that someone looks at their watch/calender says 'its that time of the year again' and so buys people stuff that most of the time they don't even want anyway (though Mum and Dad still insist on buying something for me even though I hate it) and I refuse to join in any celebrations. I hate decorations and the songs drive me nuts... see why I'm seen as a Scrooge yet?

 

I just figure it's my life. Celebrations sound like they should be fun - isn't that the defenition of 'celebrate'? They aren't for me so I don't want anything to do with it... seriously a photo was taken of me when I wasn't paying attention at the last extended family gathering I was guilted into going to - because I had no idea it was being taken it was of me, alone, looking absolutely miserable (if I had known someone was paying attention to me I would have pretended I was having fun, smiled or whatever).

 

Wow I must sound so negative... I hope you all know that despite being a Scrooge I wish you all great fun on your holidays. I'm a champion of a different cause to my mother: I think everyone should do whatever makes them feel best - ie just cause I don't like something doesn't mean that I can't be happy for you when you enjoy it. So with that in mind I truly do wish you a great Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year.

11/18/09 6:32pm

Hi Lyra!

 

Well I don't think that you are the only one who feels this way.  There are a lot of people who could care less about holidays and all the pressure and shoulds.  It is like you are supposed to feel good on these holidays but what if you don't feel up to it?  And then the guilt if you don't fall into place.

 

So I understand where you are coming from.  But are there little things you might enjoy about holidays which don't have anything to do with socializing?  My youngest son loves every holiday so much that his passion is infectious.  Right now he is playing the chipmunk's christmas song.  The Christmas song I most hate is...grandma got run over by a reindeer.  ugh. 

 

Thanks for sharing Lyra...hope this week has been decent so far for you. 

Anonymous
missingMom
11/19/09 11:51am

Last year my mother was dying from cancer and I was her primary caregiver.  I wanted one last big Thanksgiving with all the family, me and 4 brothers, spouses, grandkids, etc.  28 people total.  Talk about stress!! I'm lucky to have a good supporting family!  We had the feast at my mother's house.  I went over early and started the turkey.  2 brothers came and help set up tables, chairs etc.  The rest of the family arrived, all bearing dishes they knew my mother loved to eat.  It wasn't the traditional feast except for the turkey, but everyone had plenty to eat and had visiting time with my mom.  She wore her fancy Christmas outfit and we took plenty of pictures.  She passed away 6 months later, but everyone still remembers our FUN Thanksgiving.  This year will be a little harder for me, but I'm able to cope by remembering the smiling face of my mom as she enjoyed her Thanksgiving with the whole family.

11/19/09 6:24pm

Oh my....

 

I need some tissues...wow.  I am so sorry but...I am so glad too...that you had this holiday together.  You are a very wonderful and courageous person...you should feel very proud of yourself.  I am very sorry you lost your mom.  This is just the sort of story that gives me a stab to the gut to tell me...what is important.  thank you.

11/19/09 11:53am

Hi M/M & all,

 

Boy, I can relate to this one! My Mom will be 90 on Valentine's Day (2010) & her one "indulgenece" is to have all of the family together at her place (upstate NY) for Thanksgiving; sort of a mix of TG & Christmas.

 

Soooo, while the rest of my sibs (& their children that can make it) all drive to her place, I fly back (about 5 hrs) to be there before the real 'Winter weather' sets in.

 

Do I enjoy it all? *shrug* It's good to see & be with everyone, however I learned a LONG time ago that I enjoyed it SO much more when I 'made the rounds' & visited everyone seperately...MUCH less stressful & MUCH more relaxed all the way around! Add to the fact that I really don't like crowds & noise...quiet solitude is my 'thing'!

 

So, why do we do this? I blame it on the whole Norman Rockwell stereotypical family in particular; a big part of the reason I'm not a 'fan' of him or his work. Kiddingly I've always referred to him as "America's Propaganda Minister". Add to that the TV sitcoms, movies, etc that portray the 'perfect' homes, children & difficult situations that are all 'solved' in the course of 30 minutes to 1 hour. We watch this stuff & manage to set ourselves up for complete & utter failure by somehow expecting things to work out the same.

 

So much for my 'rant'. In any case, I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving (those of you that celebrate) & please keep a stiff upper lip!

 

11/19/09 6:28pm

Awww...that is great that your mom will be 90.  I have lived half of that now.  Trying to imagine what that must be like to make it to that age...I imagine family would be so very important.

 

Well...we all have these romantic visions of family get togethers I suppose.  But then the reality sets in and...there is the gentle acceptance that it may not be all that. 

 

Maybe the trick is to...just believe.  Just believe in the happy ever afters and the joy of turkey.  lol  I have no answers.

 

thank you for sharing!

Anonymous
Julie
11/19/09 11:57am

I used to enjoy all of the holidays as a child for the most part. They tended to be fairly one sided when it came to family. We almost always went to my mothers family.  My dads family was about 4 hours away so we didn't go there much. We'd sometimes go down a week before or after but sometimes not at all. I just thought it was because they lived "so far away".  And I always hated that because I really liked my dads family much better.

 

When I was 21, I had my daughter. Her father and I (now husband) were not married at the time and I lived at home with my parents. So, it became the new tradition that he came along to go to my grandma's house for all the holidays. When we got married, we continued the tradition until my great grandmother died, and Christmas was not the same anymore for me.   And, my husbands family was not included on any holiday at all.  My father in law died, and husbands brother got married the next year, we decided it was time to start spliting holidays up. This did not set well with my mom at all. She told me that his parents (mom) did not deserve holidays because they did not pay for anything when my daughter was a baby. (They were kind of poor, and had lost their home when our daughter was two. There was no money. My mom went over board with EVERYTHING). 

 

After that, I told her that she could pick her holidays.  She got mad that I made her choose between Christmas Eve and Christmas day. (We went to her house Christmas Eve, her mothers house for Chrismtas day).  After much arguing, she ended up with Christmas Eve. And Thanksgiving and Easter. We would leave Thanksgiving a bit early to visit with my husbands family. Until a fight broke out between his sister and a brother. (not the one that was married). After that, we no longer went to Thanksgiving at his moms, my brother and his wife now did Thanksgiving and Christmas day got moved to our house, and we decided to do Easter since for a few years, we had gone out to brunch instead of doing a cooked meal. We invited both of our families to Easter. (sound familiar?)  Everyone got along fine, (all know my mom is a piece of work). But my mom brought every traditional side dish from my childhood imagineable to that Easter dinner. I had told her to bring one side dish. We had so much food. She was passive agressive about not being in total control of the holiday. (picking which restaurant to go to).  So, it was set in that Easter was my husbands family at our house. My brother and parents did Easter on their own. This has been the norm for a few years now.

 

Finally! The holidays were established! Until my husbands brother who is married, his wife wanted to do Christmas last year. What? We do Christmas and Easter?  We are not close at all and I took this as a total blow. My husband pointed out that I come unraveled about my sister in law (I see her as perfect, another issue).  Why not let her do it, and if it a failure, we will "take it over" again.  As Christmas day came closer, I realized, wow. I am so glad I don't have to do this this year. We had a blast.

 

In February, my husbands mother received a partial payment on some land her and her siblings inherited from her parents. It is quite valuable, and the developer they signed in with has withheld payment. After years of court, lawyers fee's, she finally received the first payment of three.  It is a complicated situation with the re-investment of the money, but she lives on some interest. She spent so many years living megerly, she still does.  For some reason, my mom decided to make holidays a issue again. This time, she said, "I guess you will be spending Christmas day and Easter with his family. Now that his mom has all the money".  ???

 

I am still not close to my sister in law, and was worried this year that they may not want to do Christmas. So, I sent her a email and mentioned that we had fun last year and since our husbands' family loves lamb at Easter and she doesn't like it, we will do Easter and if she would like to take over Christmas from now on. She finally sent me a message back and said she would love to. 

 

I don't think my mom will ever get that it isn't all about her. But, at least I am able to deal with her bad behavior during the holiday's a little better.

11/19/09 6:33pm

Oh my...you poor thing.  You have been through a lot with the holidays haven't you?  It does seem that some relatives own the holidays. 

 

I hope you are happier today.  Will it be possible for you to have a peaceful and happy Thanksgiving?  Or Christmas?  Easter?

 

Thank you so much for sharing your story here.

11/19/09 4:32pm

I can totally relate to you. I have a very hard time with my family and the holidays. I have relatives who are loud and obnoxious and want to make fun and say things that they should not. Sometimes I decide not to go. I totally understand where you are coming from. Leigh

11/19/09 6:35pm

Hiyah Leigh!

 

Thanks for your commiserating...are you able to have a good holiday this year? 

 

We are going to walt disney world for Thanksgiving so I am very happy!

 

Thank you for your comment.

 

 

11/19/09 11:25pm

Dear Merely Me, I have been invited to my sister's house for Thanksgiving. We are not close at all. We do not see each other that often even though we live in the same town. My sister's oldest son is bipolar he is a know it all refuses treatment and meds. I will probably go but I will not stay the whole day. As far as Christmas I have not made up my mind what I will do. Normally I stay all night at my parent's home Christmas Eve but this year I will not. I will go over Christmas morning and stay through the afternoon. Holidays are hard for me. Leigh

11/19/09 6:06pm

I've written two articles on the holidays and they are posted on my website. www.BeyondBipolar.com. Navigate to e-Newsletters and scroll down to "Sailing through the Holidays." Enjoy!

11/19/09 6:36pm

Hi Doctor Jane!

 

So good to hear from you!  Yes absolutely I will read your articles.  Thank you so much for reading and commenting!

11/19/09 8:07pm

Good to hear from you as well. Hope you like the articles. Feel free to post them on your site with appropriate attribution.

 

DrJane

11/19/09 9:20pm

You have hit someones nerve today; I've not seen such a huge response before. I usually don't get tangled up here, because I've been working on my game awhile. The story by missingMom about a last hoorah for mom, though, hit pretty close to home. My own mom

was lucid on Thanksgiving and Christmas though racked with cancer, by February she was gone. That hurts. Being an old army trooper, though, "we just keep marching." Remember the happy days, too, and don't get stuck, because each day has infinite potential. I am looking for a lot of men who have an infinite capacity to not know what can’t be done. - Henry Ford

11/21/09 9:46am

I am so very sorry that you lost your mom.  I know that the holidays can be especially rough for anyone who has lost someone. 

 

Wish I had some words to say to console all of our members who have experienced such loss and near the holidays. 

 

Thank you for sharing your story here.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/20/09 10:06am

sounds just like my family....so i ask, why do we do it? why subject ourselves to our families' insults, it's practically abuse.  i stopped, i spend some holidays alone with my 2 dogs and i'm perfectly happy, Thanksgiving is just another day, i am thankful for what i have all year long.

11/21/09 9:51am

I hear ya!

 

If a family is toxic then you are just protecting your mental health.  I know a lot of people would disagree with me but that is how I feel as well.

 

I hope you have a wonderful and peaceful Thanksgiving with your doggies!

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