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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 gad asks

Q: Depressed Partner.. What to do.. What to do...

My partner of 8 basically great years is in a bout of heavy depression brought on by a number of things primarily work. (good money, benefits but otherwise a miserable environment). Back in May of this year he finally admitted how unhappy he is and we've been struggling day to day ever since. Approximately a month ago I was on the receiving end of what seems like a typical crisis where he announced he needed to leave because he had to see if it was our relationship making him so miserable. We talked it through, he agreed to stay and I'd try to help him. He refused any sort of medical treatment growing hysterical "I'm not crazy!" and so I've been trying with sporadic luck things like St. John's Wort. We also agreed we'd rearrange our come home schedules so that he could go to the gym every day after work (that lasted about two weeks).

 

Flash forward three months and he's still functioning going to work, playing in bands and even taking a class to wrap up his degree. Meanwhile he's still miserable, I'm growing more and more down myself: I started seeing a therapist but am feeling ambivalent about the whole process so far, getting acupuncture, trying to exercise every day and doing breathing techniques to control my own anxiety issues that this had brought on. Unfortunately I have no close friends or family here so I'm failing on the surrounding myself with caring people advice I always read about.

 

Now in his defense I recognize he's trying but you know it's been a tough year for the both us: health problems in our aging pets (aka the kids I'm not having), my dad was diagnosed and treated for prostate cancer, and now this depression. Thing is my way is generally I get sad for a day and then I fight back, I have no experience in dealing with this level of depression and I've tried everything from being cheerful to ignoring his out bursts to trying to help out however I can. However he's becoming a man I scarcely recognize much less like as a person. The amount of empathy I feel for this man who used to bring me such delight and was the person I wanted to grow old with, is being replaced much more quickly by anger and resentment. There is a job opening with an unknown timeline at his job which he's being recommended for and I believe would be a whiz at (which I think would do him a world of good). But it's not a sure thing and there's no definite start date and I think he's just holding on to this job possibility as his lifeline. I dread what will happen if he can't get this job and he's stuck in his current position.

 

Here's where I get so conflicted: I recognize his current behavior which is to treat me at best like a cordial roommate who he can complain to but will have his back is the condition and he does love me still. However this is increasingly making me into an unhappy person — my mother recently commented that this is changing my personality. So when a person refuses treatment, refuses to cut out drinking (history of alcoholism in his family) but is still struggling to be a functional guy where do you draw the line and say: get treatment or get out. Or do I just bide my time hope this job solves some of his issues and do my best to not sink into the mire of his issues. I am well aware this makes me sound terribly self centered but at the end of the day I have to protect myself so as to remain a reasonably happy and productive person or I do both him and myself a great disservice. Also to be honest, after his panic stricken " I need to leave" crisis I don't trust him very much, and now am left dreading him pulling that again and thinking perhaps maybe that would be for the best. I should add, he is terrible at emotional communication as in can't handle talking about it all. Honestly it's not my strongest suit (hence therapy) but to even discover how down he was we had to have one of our few and far between annual fights. So hard to believe this is the same man who the day after Easter snuck out after work to buy me a belated chocolate bunny, jellybeans, misc. treats and a bouquet of flowers....

 

Any advice from either partners of folks struggling with depression who've stayed, left or from the folks who've gotten themselves somewhat out of that dark hole?

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John Folk-Williams, Health Guide
9/19/10 1:46am

Hi, gad -

 

I think Judy is right on with her advice. I would just add a little more strongly how vitally important it is for you to get all the help you can. Living with someone in this condition will continue to wear you down, worsen the anxiety you've had and lead you into depression. In that sense, the condition is contagious. There is a lot to sympathize with in your husband's work situation - severe stress is without question a big factor in sustaining depression. I have no doubt that a less stressful job would help, but it's not going to eliminate the problem entirely. He has to be willing to get forms of treatment he's been afraid of. Going to a therapist or a psychiatrist has nothing to do with being crazy - it's like going to any other specialist to deal with a specific problem. A mood disorder serious enough to interfere with a decent quality of life is something millions of people face, and mood disorder does not equal "crazy" - whatever he means by that.

 

It's hard for a man to admit to being overwhelmed by emotions that he thinks he should be able to control - and it may be dangerous to his career to say anything about it at work. But things are not likely to get that much better until he can overcome his own resistance to treatment and go for it.

 

You clearly love him a lot, but a person with a problem like this can't act or feel like the man you used to know - at least for very long. All your caring and sympathy for him are beautiful to hear about but get dangerous for you if it  diverts attention from your own needs and health. Trying therapy is good - though it takes time to see results - and there's always the urge to drop it before you get much benefit. If it does seem counterproductive - it could be the type of therapy and/or the therapist. You have to have a good and trusting relationship with the therapist, or no form of it will work. (Lots of evidence about that.) And there are literally dozens of types of therapy out there today. It's advisable to do some research and interview therapists (i.e. schedule consultations) to find one you can really work with.

 

I hope both of you can find relief soon from all this stress and tension. Please stay in touch here and let us know if you have any other questions - or just need to be heard.

 

John

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9/14/10 11:39pm

Hi, there.  I am so sorry that you are having to go through this.  Men seem to have a harder time asking for help than women do.  Nevertheless, you are doing the right thing by taking care of yourself, it's not selfish at all.  He's doing nothing to help himself and you may have to separate for a time, or give him an ultimatum to wake him up to what's happening.

 

Here is a sharepost written by John Folk-Williams for the partners of depressed men.  I hope you can find something helpful reading it, as well as the comments that were made in response to it.  Maybe your therapist could coach you as to what things might work.  You can't make him get help, though - that's the plain, ugly truth.  You don't have to put your life on hold, waiting to see if he will somehow get better.  Even if he does spontaneously get better, chances are good that there will be future episodes if he doesn't get any treatment.

 

I wish you all the best and hope you will keep writing here, if it helps.  We're here to listen.

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9/15/10 8:25am

Thank you for your response Judy. I feel I should add just to be fair, when I say he's trying to pull himself up he genuinely is. After seeing the impact going out every night til all hours of the night (he's always been a night owl) was having on me. He has curtailed this behavior into being more thoughtful about his time coming home and alerting me via text what's going on. He's also curtailed the number of evenings he actually does go out. The remaining issue is just how much he drinks on those nights out (he never drinks at home). That to me is the next big hurdle since to me at least it's obvious alcohol is a depressant, he currently is a depressant, but I guess logic rarely wins the day.

 

This past week though due to work stuff his mood has just slipped back down again. We both have feast or famine type jobs where some weeks we kill ourselves and then we got through downtimes waiting for the next project to come our way. Unfortunately for him he cannot admit to this or his is judged in a negative way by his peers and his manager. In a healthy work environment an employee who is in a lull and comes to you as their manager and says "What needs to be done, who needs help until my next assignment starts up?" should be greeted as the sign of a good employee with a strong work ethic. In his world it's met with irritation for not having enough initiative to make up work from locating problems in a business area you are sometimes less than 100% familiar with. Do this for five years trapped because of your benefits and salary and I can totally understand why it's just brutalized him. And in parallel my career took off and I have the most amazing job ever in a lot of ways, so I suspect there is some resentment about that and our significant salary discrepancies.

 

I understand his fear of going to a doctor and possibly be prescribed what around here was always jokingly called "crazy people meds". Especially for a man who gags at taking aspirin and always must consume food to swallow a simple Advil.

 

It's been eight pretty good years I think I owe it a bit more time but I certainly can't see living like this for years to come like some partners seem to.

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9/15/10 8:46am

About the job thing......I worked for a Fortune 500 company for 35 years and the last 12 were pure hell because of the person I worked for, so I can understand how that isn't helping any.  I didn't even realize how bad it was until I retired, which was sooner than I would have liked had the job conditions been the way they should have been.  Maybe it was my age, I don't know, but it was like being shunned.  I wasn't included in meetings, yet expected to carry out decisions they made which were never communicated to me.  I was also trapped there because of benefits and pension, too many years in to throw it away.  I don't know what age he is, but if he's young enough to change jobs, it's worth a try and if he's not, it would help him a lot if he could talk to someone about it.  The drinking is not good, but it's probably how he's coping with the job stress - he just can't see it.

 

Whatever you decide to do, I hope you can either work this out or move on - don't stay on a sinking ship if there's no hope of recovery.  Good luck.

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By gad— Last Modified: 12/26/10, First Published: 09/14/10