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Q: Very confused with my girlfriend

Hi my name is Gary, for a year and a half, I ve been going out with my girlfriend, who has 3 teenage children, ages 17 and 18, never knew her father, was married, that failed, stayed alone for 5 years, then met another guy, who she thought she was so in love, and wanted to get married again, that failed, and 3 months later we, starting going out, didn't really want too, cause she was not finish with the other, and still had the house with him, and she wanted me to move in, I told her no, too fast, and he still had his belongings in the house, so around xmas of 2008 she wanted to change jobs, and then told me she was taking antidepressants, and told me that she was depressed before, cause of her brothers suicide, was surprized.  So, she changed jobs, didn t like her knew job, and because she changed departments she didn t get paid for a month, having problems with her children, don t help much, and plus she takes medication for her depression, and 2 rupture hernial disc, before she was very active, so gradually she was getting more and more depressed through the winter, and gaining weight, and with her back job, no money, so we didn t see anyone or do much all winter, but she blames in on me, and sexually not often, then she decided to try to get her old job back but already taken, but manage to go to another department, I moved in with her in June, so now new job, again hasn t had a pay and now we are soon in September, then told me that her ex husband, hasn t paid alimony since January, owes the other job 4000$ in overpayment, and having a big problem with one of her daughters, and we argue about our relationship, and often with her depression, saying I will commit suicide, want to go join my brother, she can t afford her house anymore, up for sale, has no money left, but keeps on spending, for things she doesn t need, and then she started to read a book about low self esteem, stop all of her medication cold turkey, andas soon as she finish the book, she did a 360, saying she is only going to think about her and no one else, and whats best for her, to go out and have fun in life, so I caught her kissing another man, at a restaurand bar on the patio, went up to her and said why are you doing this, she says I known him for along time and when I see him he makes me feel like a princess, he makes me feel good, and I always tell her that I love her, and that she is beautiful, and when we make love it is always good.  So, with that situation I text her and told her that she hurt me deeply, and ask her if she wanted too sleep with him, she said no, I am not that type of person, and she said I am sorry I hurt you, it was not my intention, Ijust wanted to thank him for making me feel good, I said that is not away to thank him, cause of your low self esteem and booze, made you do that.  Then  she wrote me a big letter saying that she doesn t love herself, and she needs time and space to find the real her, and that she hopes that once she does, I will be still there for her, but she doubts it, then often she told me, I am better off with out her, during our relationship, she drank more, and smoked pot for her back, mixing everything together, and in the letter said she still loves me, but if she can t love herself, she can t love me dearly, and that she hopes I understand.  So the past week, I kept emailing and text, her texting me also, and tried to give her advice, and the way I feel about her, and about our relationship, and we both ended up at a pub with the friends we knew, she was not happy that I was there, and started giving shit to her friend, saying you arranged this, but he didn t know we were separated, and then I left, and she started a big arguement with him, he told her too stop but she didn t, and throught the 2 weeks, she was very irritated at her children my son, myself, the bank teller, her gal friend, the friend I mention, and other people, and now she says she doesn t love me anymore, and doesn t want too see me anymore, and that she is over me, and telling everyone, I running after her like crazy, and sending emails texting, this was all in the first week I left, she didnt want me to leave, and that she would never throw me out, but left cause it was getting worse and I didn t want to crowd her space, with past experiences with other women, who I didn t give there space and time, so very confused of what she is doing and saying, and just on friday, the daughter she was having problems who is 17 got arrested for selling drugs, but her mother didn t go get her, and now doesn t want to pay for her, or put her in school.  Sorry if this letter is long, but I need some good advice on what to do.  Thanks Gary

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8/26/09 10:41am

Gary - wow! My first reaction, truthfully, was to say "Run like hell." This woman has a lot of problems, obviously, and she isn't taking care of them from the sounds of it.  I think you were wise to move out (I think that's what you said), she doesn't sound able to take on much responsibility.  You could suggest to her that she get help or if you've already done that and she's refused, you could give her an ultimatum if you're prepared for the worst outcome.  You could even offer to go with her to see a doctor or therapist, if that's what it would take.  You deserve better treatment than this, don't you think?  You obviously care about her, but if she doesn't want to help herself, you can't fix her alone.  You might even consider seeing a therapist yourself if you need help in dealing with her, get a professional opinion.

 

I wish you the best with this, don't know if this helped, but you are welcome to write again here.  Maybe others would have some different suggestions.

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8/26/09 11:26am

Hi Judy, thanks for answering, didn t think anyone would answer, yes for me it is very hard to deal with, and she told me she is on a waiting list, this way she doesn t have too pay, but before I left 2 weeks ago she went to see a shrink, and paid 150, but I don t know if that is true though, I just think with all of her past, its all coming out, and yes she does have alot on her plate, and it is amazing, what I went through the past year, that I am not depressed, I am very strong minded person, but my fault his, I have to help that person so much, to help themselves, enough to choke there space, so this time, I will try too just do my things and see what happens, I can t email, text or phone her and ask her if she goes, if I can come to a session, cause right now, I don t think she would want to talk to me.

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8/26/09 11:36am

Hi, Gary.  I think you are doing exactly the right thing - give her all that space she wants and see what happens.  I think you'll be able to tell if she does, indeed, get help.  Some people have a hard time getting too close, they want to, but then they don't and she sounds like there might be a little of that going on, based on what you've said about her.  Just take care of yourself right now, take a breath and hope she will follow through.  I wish you all the best.

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8/26/09 11:50am

Hi again Judy, thanks but what all happen in these past week, I don t know if she still loves me or misses me, I keep reading the letter she wrote me everyday, telling myself that this is true and she meant it, but what happen at the pub last thursday, she told the guy friend and his girlfriend, she doesn t love me anymore, cause after the fight, and the police came to the pub, which I didn t know that went on, I said to them I am going to leave, I don t fill comfortable, and i am very tired, when she came to sit near us, and not with us, she said too me, that I don t have to leave, cause she is there, but didn t answer her, so when I was paying my beer, she started to yell at her guy friend, and he told her to stop, but she didn t,  so about an hour later, she text me saying yeah you really want me too commit suicide, you showed me tonite you really love me, and told other friends that he poured his whole pitcher of beer over her and threw the pitcher at her face, non of this was true, the thing that was true, yes the he had abit of beer left in his glass, and threw it at her face to wake up and stop giving him shit, but she didnt, so then he threw the plastic pitcher but beside her and not even touching her, so could her reaction and being irratated, be caused by stopping her antidepressants, cause I read up about that, and she has all of the symptoms, when I was still with her, she complained about dizziness, diareaha, and not sleeping good, and screaming and yelling at everyone, putting her son down, giving shit to her two twin daughters, and saying that she is afraid of my son cause he his a killer.

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8/26/09 11:16pm

Hi, Gary.  I don't know what antidepressants she's been taking, but I think there are a couple of them that could cause some bad side effects - one of them is Effexor.  Under the "Manage" section at the top of this page, there are some topics and one of them is "Effexor Withdrawal."  That one is notorious for having withdrawal symptoms.  Or, maybe she's not taking the right kind of medication, it's hard to say.  She sounds very angry and out of control.  I think you would be helping yourself to keep your distance, at least until you know that she's back in control of herself.  I'm sorry to hear that all this is going on, it must feel like a nightmare.  If you know who her doctor is, you could call him/her and give this information to them - it's not breaking confidentiality for them to receive information, only to give it to someone other than her.  Again, good luck and keep writing if this helps.

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8/27/09 7:51am

Thank Judy, it is nice that someone is there, to listen to you.  Yes it does me good, to get this all out, and it is a nightmare, because when I met her, I never ask for any of this, I went and phone the family, one sister who was also depressed and still his phone her, and said to me, she is alright, that she explained everything to her, but she  is not alright, saying to her mother, and her other sister s husband, but they said they can t do nothing, her mother talked too her, last weekend about the booze, and other things, but went in one ear, and out the other, says she never listens to anybody.   With all of this, I feel so helpless, feels like I have my hands tied behind my back, and can t get them loose, the only thing I can hope for, if she stumbles across a stranger, that will notice, and help her, and ask god to guide her, and at the moment, I am trying to help her daughter, and staying in contact. Well thank you again.  Gary

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8/27/09 10:14am

Gary, it is really kind of you to keep trying to help her daughter, I'm sure she needs somebody right now when her mother is incapacitated.  It's hard to watch somebody slip away and you can't do anything about it; some people have to reach rock bottom before they'll change and maybe she hasn't hit it yet.  My oldest son was in a bad way most of his teenage years and tried to kill himself twice (and this was while on medication and seeing a therapist) but he did finally grow up and now he makes me proud with the way he's such a good father to his little son.  I'm glad he saw the light earlier than later.  Hopefully, your girlfriend will get a jolt of reality soon and realize what she's throwing away.  Don't be afraid to get some help yourself to cope with all of this, okay?  Hang in there and keep me posted.

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8/27/09 10:44am

I don t know how to thank you so much, you are the only one answering me, and getting help for myself, is reading up on depression, and listening, what you have too tell me, I appreciated so much, there is always a good hearted person out there, may god bless your soul.

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8/27/09 10:55am

You are most welcome, Gary!  If you ever feel like creating a Share Post, you might get a few more people to respond as I think people here tend to read those more often than the general questions just because they're more "visible."  Everyone here is very compassionate and it's very safe here, so feel free if you think you might like to do that.  If you need help in how to do that, just let me know.  Otherwise, would like to keep hearing how you're doing - you sound like a very caring person yourself.

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8/27/09 11:14am

Hello again, don t know how to create a share post, also, my mind doesn t stop thinking of all went on for the past two weeks, and what she said in the texts and emails, I saved every email and text, since I left her house. This week very hard cause I just want to text, and email her, but I know it will upset her.  Thanks

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8/27/09 11:20am

Gary, at the top of this page there is a blue box that says "Connect" and one of the topics in there is "Create a Sharepost."  Just click on that and it will take you through what's necessary to create one.  If you're not already registered, you will need to do that, but it should take you through that procedure, too.  Everything is confidential, no one will know your actual email address, they just need it to be able to notify you when you receive responses.  You can also subscribe to other Shareposts, like Merely Me, is one of the site's experts.  Hope this works - let me know if you have any trouble.  I am leaving now for a little while, so won't be able to respond right away, but I will get back to you if you write again.

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By docvd— Last Modified: 12/22/10, First Published: 08/26/09