If you suspect your 3 year old daughter has diabetes get her checked out as soon as possible, also make sure you keep an eye on her over the years for signs of diabetes. My parents didn't know I had diabetes until I was 9 years old. It never showed up until then. I hope this helped you out a little bit.
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Some diabetics have also mentioned feeling very irritable or impatient after eating (especially after dinner) and some have noticed black spots or a black ring in their toilet bowls (due to mold that thrives on the sugar in a diabetic's urine).
I just had my best friend move in and before that event our toilet had remained relatively clean (me and my brother didn't clean all that regularly either) but now, even with weekly cleaning it comes to be all black and moldy. i came online and googled it to see if there was a link between diabetes and dirty toilets, he is type 1 and his sugars are often high.
Good to know I'm not the only one.
Ahh I have found the answer out. Nobody in our family has diabetes and I had never seen this black mold in the toilet before. The only toilet it is in now is the one my daughter's boyfriend uses, and he has Type 1 diabetes that is uncontrolled, he can't bother to get his meds or eat right. I guessed it was the sugar attracting the mold. I hope this mold isn't dangerous in any way.
Hi
I'm experiencing this phenomenon also. My aunt was diagnosed with Type I very late in life. Her mother had Type 2 supposedly. I have a sweet tooth but mostly drink too much wine. Have fungal problems and a mold-challenged house. My fasting glucose has hovered around 90 for years.
This is very worrisome.
I also had to look up the info about the rats and found this link:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T1J-4B0P1WJ-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=3798c55eb72edc2a6ba7d2b7f109b85e
good luck to everyone.
I noticed this 7 years ago when my son was first diagnosed with type I. I couldn't find anything back then. I was just reading blogs again looking for what causes the black mold. No one seems to know. I read HVAC, low flow toilets, on and on. We have moved about every 3 years, remodeled, replaced toilets - all that and within days we always get the ring of black mold. My son is now 15 and doesn't ever want to test for keytones and even hates testing his blood sugar at times. I'm convinced their is a link. Probably a side effect of diabetes and not the cause.
I agree that the mold in the toilet is as a result of the diabetes and not the other way around. My son who is now 16 has type 1 diabetes. He was diagnosed 4 years ago. And up until shortly before he was diagnosed we never had a problem with mold at all, anywhere in our home. Now it consistently grows in his toilet. I scrub it with bleach about once a week. Nasty and disgusting but a fact I have come to live with. I was curios to see if anyone else had also experienced this so I googled it as well and ended up here. Im glad im not alone~ I suspected this was in fact the problem since there is no mold in any other toilet at all.
I was diagnosed a year ago with Type II and I bought a house a year before that. I had a much older brother with diabetes. My problem is that the only place I have black mold is in MY BEDROOM. It started last year now I am battling this situation. First, I used pure bleach and those spots have stopped it. I was reading an article at Home Depot and it says that bleach does not kill it. One product I found there has hydrogen peroxide as the active ingredient.
Any other suggestions.
We started having a lot of mold in our toilet. We're in LA, so we thought it was weird water or something. This phenomenon went on for several months.
Then, during a routine check-up, I found out I was diabetic.
Now that I got my blood glucose under control, no more mold in the toilet.
Seems like a pretty clear link to me!
--Tex
There was a pinkish-brown, spongy kind of mold showing up in my toilet for months. During that time, I was also very thirsty and losing a lot of weight, which I found out was indeed type II diabetes. Well, sugar feeds fungus, whether it's that mold or a yeast infection (which I also had).
My body was purging all of the sugar out since it was ultra-high, and I was peeing it out. Now that my blood sugar level is under control, no more mold in the toilet and no more yeast infection.
In order to get rid of the mold from the toilet, I would use Lysol Cling or Clorox toilet bowl cleaner with bleach in it. I'd squirt it in and let it sit for a while until the mold had disappeared, then scrubbed the bowl with a brush. It did return eventually before my diagnosis, but I haven't seen it since.
My wife has been bugging me for months to find the cause our ongoing "spotty black mold" problem, and she assumed it was something to do with perhaps an infection I could have - essentially assuming the worst! Well, I'm actually Type-II and my Doctors are telling me it's time to switch to an insulin pump instead of oral meds... funny, the mold definitely has become more and more a problem as my blood sugar levels have risen over the years. Guess I can add one more reason for switching to insulin and lowering my blood sugar: less need to clean the toilet due to the unsightly, nasty black stuff!
Side-note: have any of you found better mold control results if you put a tablet in your toilet? Like 10,000 flushes or a Lysol bleach tablet?
I have just been dx with type 2 diabetes. I always wondered why black mold would grow in my upstairs toilet and not in the one downstairs. Well, now I know why. I never use the on downstairs, I just clean it. I was told the sugar in my urine, (result of too much blood sugar) helped the mold to grow. The sugar acts like food for the mold. Also it effect algae the same way.
I have a similar issue but am not diabetic (tested), although my father is (not residing with me).
I moved last year from my new condo to a 5 year old house. The day I moved in I noticed black mold in the master bathroom toilet. My previous condo never had it and I had never used this toilet before.
Now one year later .. it won't go away. I clean it and within a day or two its back in the bowl. The heaviest concentration is at the water edge and under the top edge (water inlet ring). If it was diabetes related I would think that the water inlet would not be affected. The tank is clean.
My experience is the black rings are related to a person that may visit your home that has elevated sugar levels or has been diagnosed with diabetes. I was living alone and used both of my toilets with no presence of any toilet rings. I started dating a guy two years ago. When he would visit my home he would consistently use the toilet in the second bathroom simply out of convenience. I noticed the black rings and just brushed it off, thinking I was not cleaning the toilet often enough. However the black rings were only in the toilet in the bathroom that he used. This went on for over a year. Well, I recently relocated to another state; as such we did not see each other for over a month. My new home has three toilets and I used all of them and for over a month and none of the toilets had the black rings. Well my boyfriend came to visit for a week. Within two days of his arrival the toilet in the bathroom he used had the black ring at the water line. The other two toilets that he did not use did not have a black ring. He left, I cleaned the toilet and no black ring for two months. When he came for his second visit, within days the black ring was back. Again the black ring was only in the toliet he used, but not in the other two toilets. Several weeks ago he was diagnosed with diabetes. To keep the black ring to a minimum, I treat the toilet with bleach. I keep a small bottle of bleach under the sink in his bathroom and pour a small bit in the toilet daily when he comes to visit. This pretty much keeps the black ring away. Hope this helps!
I thank God I found this site. I had moved at least 3 times in the past 4 years and was thinking something was wrong with the air! I know how serious diabetes is now, and will start back taking my meds. I also noticed that my bath towels (face and drying) were turning black (moldy looking) after short usage. My wifes towels will sit right next to mine on the rack, but would never get black. I guess I got sugar coming out of my pores too, huh? - lol, but serious now.
my wife has what would be considered as uncontrolled diabetes, lost 2 toes, constantly high blood sugar with insulin even and the bathroom toilet off of our bedroom, which she only uses, is constantly turning black with mold. I have recently gotten diabetes, and not on insulin cause my sugars don't run as high, have recently started seeing the black peppery mold showing in other bathroom toilet, which i always use. so yes, i'd say that the mold has something to do with the glucose amounts that accumulate in the toilet thus feeding the mold. my toilet doesn not get as bad as hers and my blood sugars aren't as bad either. Before my getting diabetes, my toilet never had this problem. I was wondering if it was the water or old toilets or what, lol. now i know.
My partner with diabetes works away one week and is one week home. Only when he is home the toilet gets rapid growth of black mold. So I think it is definetly diabetes related.
I just read interesting information on Apple cider vinegar being helpful to diabetes and raw food is supposed to cure it. We have not tried this but will hopefully if I can get him to eat raw.
About 6 weeks ago I began to have an unquenchable thirst, was peeing all the time, started losing weight and I was exhausted. It was about this time that I noticed a strange mold growing in my toilet. Also, since I pee so much at a time, some of the urine would hit underneath the front of the seat causing "crystals" to form.
I went to the doctor 2 weeks ago and the lab tests showed that I had Type 2 Diabetes. I also had a huge amount of sugar in my urine. I immediately put 2 and 2 together.
The mold starts growing back within 24 hours of cleaning. My guest bathroom toilet, which I never use, is spotless. I have been taking Glipizide for a week now. My symptoms have not subsided yet and the mold in the toilet keeps coming back.
Though it makes sense, it still seems like a strange phenomenon and something you just don't hear about when reading up on diabetes.
I Googled diabetes + toilet and found this forum. I'm glad to see that I am not alone. 
I wondered about the connection, put diabetic and toilet together, and found this forum. I have a toilet with a wooden seat. When I flushed my toilet, I noticed a yellowish thick mold falling down when I flushed. I also noticed some black mold on the ceramic part of the toilet. I cleaned the mold off. I also noticed a fungus growing under my wooden seat. I cleaned it off. I then noticed a mold growing on the inside of the rim. It was a yellowish bubble. Of course, I felt sad. I know my sugar is out of control. I know it high. I've tried to allieviate sugar, but sugar is in everything. Also, I scrapred dried urine "crystals" off of the back of the seat. I rubbed the crystal mass together and smelled it. Of course it had a urine smell, but it smelled sweet. So the sugar spilling into the urine is feeding the mold. I've cleaned my toilet with bleach sprays. But it is clear the mold is most likely caused by the sugar.
My experience is the black rings are related to a person with diabetes. I started dating a guy with diabetes. When he would visit me he would consistently use the second bathroom toilet. The black rings were only in the toilet in the bathroom that he used. This went on for over a year. I recently relocated to another state so we did not see each other for over a month. My new place has three toilets and for over a month none of the toilets had the black rings. Well my boyfriend came to visit for a week. Within two days of his arrival the toilet in the bathroom he used had the black ring at the water line. The other two toilets that he did not use did not have a black ring. I treat the toilet with bleach. I keep a small bottle of bleach under the sink in his bathroom and pour a small bit in the toilet daily when he comes to visit. This pretty much keeps the black ring away. Hope this helps!
I am wondering if the black mold you are seeing is only a ring at water level? I have black lines coming down from the rim from the water inlet, at back of bowl. My husband and I have good blood sugar levels, cleared by doc. I believe my line problem to be from another cause.
I am a diabetic and an Engineer, and I find it funny how these things are attributed to diabetics. Here is a clip from the municipal water authorities in upstate Buffalo NY.
Why is there a black ring inside my toilet bowl?
This has nothing to do with water being delivered to your household. This is mildew caused by
room temperature, facility usage and lighting. We suggest a chlorine-based bowl cleaner, and
more ventilation during showers.
My situation is as follows;
This was the case in my home, the extractor vent for the bathroom was ineffective. You may have closed windows, poor ventilation etc. In my case, a little investigation found that this extractor vent fan, vented into the attic an not out to the atmosphere (poor construction). As a result we stop turning on this extractor fan to prevent mold and mildew buildup in the attic. So, during showers and toilet use we got this mildew build up from moisture in the toilet. See, there is a REASON for these ventilation systems in homes with windowless bathrooms. (town-homes, apartments, houses etc).
Improve you ventilation and you will eliminate this problem.
What these people are describing as common to their situations - and that they attribute it to diabetes - is not funny.
Even though you are an Engineer, I don't think that you understand the problem fully.
The peppery black mold spots that many of these people are talking about - are growing on the surface of the toilet bowl "under the water" - and no amount of ventilation is going to help that.
What I find odd is that I only have this problem in winter.
I live in the Northwest (in the middle of the Washington State desert) and since the water supply from our town is feed from a warm spring, the only difference here - is that in winter, the potable water coming into the house is much much colder.
My black peppery spots "under the water" in my toilet bowl come with the colder water of winter and I would like to know where the mold spores (that my sugars are feeding) come from in the first place.
My guess is that they are just in the air - but it frightens me that the originating spores might be in my water and that I am also drinking them.
Can they make you sick???
Especially a diabetic - with our compromised ability to heal
I have had this same question for months now; I am a nurse caring for my son who is diabetic; I have noticed that when he is very active, and a little cranky, that he has high sugar levels. Although he doesn't believe there is a connection, I can now see in the toilet when he has not been monitoring his blood sugars as he should be doing, and I call him on it; He will question me, 'how did you know?'. Of course, I remind him that I saw black fungus groing in our toilet. Only to be verbally corrected by him each time. He is sure they have no connection---I am sure that they do.
I am a femal who has had type I diabetes since age 3. My A1c is 6 to 6.2. I JUST started noticing the black mold like 3 months ago. Please email me with any information. sxgremlin@yahoo.com.
Wow, I never would of thought there was a connection between my diabeties and the black mold in my toliet. I was getting so frustrated with the mold returning that I finally turned to the internet to figure out what it was and how to get rid of it. I came across this and so amazed by the connection. The sad part for me is that I thought I was doing well with my sugars but the toliet tells no lies, if I am peeing out sugar that is not good. I am so glad I found this out because my husband who is also diabetic but uses the other bathroom has just started to see the black mold in his bathroom. This saved me so much money, I was ready to call a plumber and dig up sewer lines if needed to get this to stop.
Thanks everyone. So to get it to stop is to then control sugars, lower blood sugar levels and watch out for the black mold.
God Bless Everyone
I don't think that there is a complete link to this. As wouldn't all the toilets in the home that the diabetic uses have black mold? We have 3 toilets in our home, and only 1 has black mold in it, I am the only diabetic in the home, and yes I use all 3 toilets on a regular basis. Also, it had the mold upon our move in. I've tried everything from bleach, vinegar, baking soda, cleaners, in the tank and bowl, and every 3 day cleaning, and NOTHING has managed to get rid of it. So that is why I have to question your theory. Thanks.
For the past 2 months, I have noticed this black peppery mold in our toilets in our house. I use mainly 2 of them and not the 3rd. This is of great concern to me, as I know I must have high blood sugar and have lost 60lb from Jan 15 to March 27...(9 weeks) I keep cleaning the toilets and we were gone for 2 weeks on vacation and when we came home, the toilets were still clean. 2 weeks later the black mold has returned. I am certian I am a diabetic now, this was the last clue that I needed to make sure that I get checked out. I pee at least 8 times at night and am drinking about 6-7 gallons of water a day, eat all the time and find myself getting tired quickly and wanting to take naps. This comes as no suprize to me, as both my parrents are diabetic. I am going to have to make that appointment with a doc.
I recently had to have my right kidney removed. To keep it short, the thing had, basically, been rotting inside of me for at least 15 years and causing a slew of problems. In order to prepare my body for the nephrectomy, I had to have a stent put in to help me urinate. It was at this time that I began to notice this black, peppery, mildewy-looking build up around the toilet bowl. It then ceased for about one week after having the kidney taken out and has resumed and continued for the last five. It seems to be getting worse. I DO NOT have diabetes. I have been tested numerous times. Why is MY urine doing this to the toilet?
My roommate and I have lived together for six years. We have three bathrooms in our townhouse one in each of our rooms and one in the half bath downstairs. I noticed that both of the toilets I use regularly had the black mold all the time--his has no mold at all. So...with his permission, of course, I used his (the one in the upstairs hall) and the mold showed up within 24 hours. I have type 2 diabetes. I think our experiment with the bathrooms does show a connection.
How interesting to see this post - I've noticed black mold in my toilets - my friend has at his home too, he is a diabetic, recently diagnosed - previously we have never had this problem, for some reason I got to thinking it may be his urine, and thought I'd do a search to see if it was a fact or just a strange observatioin... what can I say, looks to be fact!
I found this while searching for the cause of the black ring around the toilet that behaves like a mold. Both toilets I have notice then in has crossed state lines. For the life of me I knew black mold was difficult to get rid of from working as a mechanic for a pool company for a number of years. I attempted to remove the mold with a pumice stone and a high dose of chlorine, to no avail. I moved and just recently starting seeing this black mold reappears again in another state. I am thinking there is no way this is possible and tackled the problem again as I had done so in the pass with higher doses, which has now prompted me to search for a cure when I stumbled here. The short of it is a couple of things. I became a type II diabetic later in life also known as, Adult Onset. So this is making perfect sense now...This particular black ring of black stuff is slippery, clings to the bowl, appears to clump with dots in the areas around the bowl, removes easily, but will return within a few weeks. Also for others this may be an excellent form of early detection. After having work in the health field for many years, I discovered many, many diabetics who did not know that they were. My thinking, the blood sugar should be a part of a yearly physical, or a new patient screening, any thing less is negligence. A blood sugar taken and it's elevated lets say over 130 mg/dl, you're a diabetic. There is not such thing as an almost diabetic. You either are or your not.......<---periods.
I'm so glad to read the comments above. My husband has Type 2 diabetes and the black ring has been a constant problem in "his" toilet. Now that his symptoms seem to be getting worse (he is complaining, for the first time, of poor circulation in his feet), the toilet problem is getting worse too. Years ago, when he was first diagnosed, I mentioned the problem to a doctor, who looked at me as if I was nuts. I wish there were more information about this problem so that people could find it easily.
I have been reading about how the unchecked sugar levels in a diabetic can cause the mold in toilets. My father moved in with us over a year ago and we gave him the master bedroom so he could have his own bathroom. Before he moved in we had no problems keeping the toilet clean. Within about 8months his toilet stopped working because it was always getting so moldy. Now he has been using our toilet and even with me cleaning it 3times a week it is getting to the point that the toilet will barely flush. Does anyone know if I'm going to have to replace my toilets or if there is a way to declog the mold from inside the toilet where I can't reach?
I'm a diabetic, type II, and also thank * for this thread. It appears that cleaning will be the answer to the mold problem which is a natural consequence of sugary urine splashing in the bowl! If your toilet is really clogged, you could try using a brush that has bristles mounted in reverse, to keep the water vents around the bowl clear. If that doesn't work and they won't clear, a handyman can replace a toilet; get someone who's done it before a few times...of course a plumber can usually do it for a service charge plus the cost of the new commode. Good new ones are cheap these days, with lots of choices. I go for Home Depot's Commander...
Wow, this thread is great, bless Google and Health Central!
The black ring is probably coming from a deteriorating flap or washer in the tank.
If you've used those urinal or johnny cakes in your tank (which is a no-no), you've exposed the rubber like material of the flap and washer to bleach and other toxic crap from those cakes into your tank causing the flap and washers to deteriorate.
Drain your tank, by turning off the water inlet line at the wall. once the water has drain ( it's not going to drain completely) run your finger along the flap and/or washer, if you see black in the water and on your finger that's the problem. To save yourself from going through these steps, if you take the lid off the tank and see sediments in your tank, it's likely from the deteriorating flap or washer, but to be sure the finger test is more accurate.
Replace teh flap and washers (usually all three) two conecting the tank to the bowl and one on the inlet line/Refill Tube - Float Rod & Chain.. A complete kit is about ten bucks, to ease your peace of mind.
well i came to this site to ask about black mold in toilet and found a similar question i have diabetes type two and the toilet in my house that i use has a black mold ring every other day and if i stay a someones house theres s a black mold ring forming in a few days in that toilet too,im constantly cleaning it thought about swiping a test of it and having it analyzed , i was wondering if I have that black mold coating my bladder. most likely its in my body som,ewhere, how do i get rid of it ? any answers?
I've got the same problem as everyone else but here's the thing that differs. Quite often when I go to the bathroom to urinate I'll sit down to read a magazine. I've noticed that where my urine stream hits the bowl above the water line mold grows from there down into the water line.
Now I want to experiment and get a specimen jar of agar agar (used for medical testing) and set it out and see if it gets the mold at the same rate as the toilet does.
Would be interesting to see if the mold is airborne or if it's internal. I mean if like the one poster stated that to give rats diabetes they inject them with mold. Also I wonder what kind of mold it actually is, since there are many different types. I think some testing needs to be done on this if there are any medical types lurking within the thread.
I noticed black mold very sticky urin all around my toilet for months. I was cleaning my toilets daily and somtimes twice a day, as I could not get control of it. My husband was slowly looking sick and loosing weight. He would not go to the doctor, but I did not associate it with his now diagnosed diabetes. Now that he has it under control the black mold has gone away and there is no more sticky urine around the toilets.
I have noticed black in the WC's my husband uses, and sticky urine on the floor. He WILL NOT see a doctor, he tells me his health is no concern of mine! I suppose this means he is probably diabetic? I have suspected this for some time as he will drink a liter of coca cola, liters of beer, telling me he is thirsty! He will not drink water, he buys the coca and beer himself, I wouldn't buy it for him!
He eats a lot of unhealthy snacks which he also buys for himself, and he thinks he doesn't eat much nowadays, as he leaves part of his healthy meals I prepare for him!
My husband (62 yrs old) just died of complications of uncontrolled diabetes. I had the black mold blob and sticky urine problem in the toilets he used. I used to think it was something with the tolilets (old) or my cleaning. BUt I would scrub them twice per week and the black blobs started forming the next day. I knew my husband was going downhill because of the uncrontrolled diabetes and I know he was in dire shape, but he would not do anything about it. It wasn't until this week (5 weeks after his death) that I noticed that since he died there has been absolutely no black mold blobs in the toilets. The toilets are pristene, even 2 weeks after being cleaned. I suspect all the sugar in his urine as the culprit and now I think I KNOW that what it was. How sad!
hello Diabetes Widow,
Thank you for your reply. What other symptoms did your husband have? Why did uncontrolled diabetes kill him? What actually happened, did he finally just go into a coma?
Sorry about it, shame that quite a few men will not consult doctors!
Take care
hello Diabetes Widow,
Thank you for your reply. What other symptoms did your husband have? Why did uncontrolled diabetes kill him? What actually happened, did he finally just go into a coma?
Sorry about it, shame that quite a few men will not consult doctors!
Take care
He had been controlling his Diabetes with oral meds for many years (10 or more). THen it stopped working and the Dr. referred him to the insulin clinic to do insulin shots. He tried those for a short time and just decided he couldn't do shots. He then stopped going to the Dr completely - including the eye Dr - because he knew that they would all tell him the same thing - we can't help you if you don't help yourself. I wasn't aware how serious his Diabetes was. He stopped treating approximately 2008 or 2009. At first he was checking his blood sugar regularaly, but that probably got to him too (high readings, no ability to control) - so he stopped that too. He got very heavy at first. Then around 2009 he started deteriorating. He was drinking literally gallons of liquid: Diet Coke, Juice, chocolate milk, and some carbonated waters. He started urinating very frequently (which I tossed up to potential protrate). He started eating a lot of sugar for the hypoglycemia that was the roller coaster ride of his sugar. He became very grumpy and then very very nasty (hypo probably). By May 2012 he had lost 100 lbs, lost all his hair, was half blind, gone gray suddenly, and had neuropathy and bluish feet/legs. I tried to convince him to do something about it, but he wouldn't. He knew he was dying. At the end (Aug - Dec 2012) he was sleeping all day (he had retired in May), was overly sensitive to any touch and was in rough shape. The black mold in the toilets started about 2009 and progressed to a huge amount after he retired (he used our bathrooms at home fulltime at that point). I noticed towards the end that he was holding his chest every once in a while. The ER said he died of a coronary related to uncontrolled diabetes. Uncontrolled diabetes affects all your organs, most signiicantly the heart and kidneys. He also had high cholesteral and high blood pressure which he couldn't control because he wouldn't go to the Dr for the diabetes. Very sad situation. We had lost both our adult daughters to car crashes in 2000 and 2007. I lost both my mother and father and so did he. His father was diabetic (controlled!), and he died in his late 80s, but he had deteriorated and became grumpy, and all the same things as my husband, but at a muh later age. I think my husband didn't want to go down that path and had become depressed. The grief counselor I went to said it sounded like "passive suicide"...........and everything I've found points to the fact that he knew he was dying soon. You can't make people do things they don't want to do. I''m just devastated over this. But life goes on, like it or not. Hope things are good for you and yours.
Hello, Thank you very much for writing back to me. It give me clues as to the state of his health, things to look out for, maybe eventually I can persuade him to do something about it, see a doctor. He is retiring in 2 months. He is already a very grumpy person. I know if he saw a doctor and was given medication, he'd never take it more than a couple of days, he was given blood pressure tablets in 1997, he didn't even finish the packet and never went to a doctor again! He had only gone then because he had to have a medical as we were moving, for the mortgage on a house.
Seems to me that there a lot of men who won't take care of their health, bury their heads in the sand!
I'm so sorry to hear about your losses, that of course contributed to your husband's depression.
As you say, life goes on, I hope that you have some happy times now and in the future, you have to make the best of the life you have whatever has happened.
Take care, good luck
xxx