I am on insulin but like yourself am having ttrouble loosing weight. I am 40 lbs over weight female. Go next week to see endro. doctor and am like you tired of being hungry all the time. I follow the carb diet etc. but loose two lbs gain then back. Question to you is where you on insulin before taking byetta? thanks for you help
debbie
Good question. The FDA approved Byetta only for people with type 2 diabetes. However, doctors are legally allowed to prescribe any drug approved for anything for any other purpose. So your doctor is free to prescribe Byetta to you. He or she may or may not do that at his or her discretion (of course you could always fire your doctor, like I did, and get one who is compliant with your needs).
Still, the probably of paying for it remains. Few if any health insurance company will reimburse you for it. And Byetta is costly -- about $200 per month.
When all is said and done, however, it may well be worth it.
Best regards,
David
Thanks for your reply David. I have gotten past the Byetta induced nausea with your helpful advice, but I am having a difficult time with low blood sugar within 30 minutes of completing dinner which causes a nasty headache. I am stubborn and don't want to give up on the 10mcg dosage even though my doctor has called in a prescription taking me back down to the 5mcg dosage. I'll take 2 tablets of glucose and my sugar keeps dropping. The frustration of treating a low after dinner is that the Byetta has slowed digestion which means the glucose doesn't work as effectively. Do you have any suggestions?
Well David, you have now met someone who experienced low blood sugar on Byetta alone. My doctor had me stop my Metformin for a week and track the results. I still had difficulty keeping my blood sugars above 65. I did break down and fill the 5mcg prescription today. It was interesting that my pharmacist congratulated me on the change; she saw it as not needing so much medicine. This evening has been pure joy...no headache, no nausea. Hopefully I will continue to lose weight, even if it will be slower. Thanks so much for your input. This and reading the other comments have been a great help to me.
Just an additional note...tonight my after dinner blood glucose was 92!!! It's wonderful being on the correct dosage for me. I will re-start the Metformin for overnight control, but that is a small concession for having my evenings back.
What I wish I could do is use the 10mcg in the mornings and the 5mcg in the evenings (evenings gave me more problems with low blood sugar), but I don't see my doctor agreeing with me.
I may be the exception (for now), but hopefully knowing about my experience will help others.
Dear Charis,
Yes, if I were in your shoes I would ask my doctor to put me back on the 5 mcg dose of Byetta. But there is a lot that I don't understand about your message, particularly where you write that your blood glucose drops too low. No one has reported that Byetta alone will make you go hypo. So what other diabetes medications are you taking? A couple of them will make you go too low. Maybe you need to talk to your doctor about stopping the other medication. Then, you will not need to eat so much, which is the reason that you feel sick to your stomach and are not losing weight.
Best regards,
David
Dear Charis,
Well, metformin is NOT one of the diabetes medications that can cause hypos. And it is rare that people who have been using Byetta for more than a couple of weeks will feel weak. It is, however, common in the first first week or so, as we get used to eating MUCH LESS food. I experienced that myself at first. Anyway, my guess is that your doctor will agree with us for you to cut back on your Byetta dose to 5 mcg at least for now. Good luck!
David
Sounds like my story exactly! I battled to go from the 350's and 14.2 to 130's and 6.2 on metformin, glipizide, and diet control. It's been hard but worth it.
I start the Byetta 5 this week and am hoping to get to a goal of 100's and 6.0 or below in a few months and dropping a few needed pounds in the process.
Best of luck and keep up the hard work!
Brian look up the ingredient in the pen, this is just one link I found. They say it is used in making explosives. I would be a little pissed at your doctors office, hopefully you are OK since this was in July, would be curious to know if you suffered any side effects or serious damage due to the negligence of the nurse practitioner that is something she should definitely checked before dispensing it to you.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w3u602654n705423/
I have been on Byetta for over a year now and I love it. I am one of those people who never lost an ounce on Byetta and I have suffered severe nausea at night in particular which lasts for hours. The doctor who prescribed the Byetta acted like there was something wrong with me for not losing any weight. "I have other patients who have lost 10-20 lbs already". I don't see that doctor anymore but I still take the Byetta and swear by it.
Pre-Byetta my counts were never under 120. After starting the drug my counts dropped to 90 and 110 range. I then decided to drop my glucophage(it never agreed with me). Now my levels are ranging between 100 and 120. So the Byetta has allowed me to get rid of one medication! I am now on Actos and Byetta only. I too have higher levels in the morning but on average it's around 126 now.
I did start a new weight loss program in February and have lost almost 20 lbs. I believe the Byetta has helped with that by curbing my appetite but I can't get all the food in that the diet requires which seems to be a big point of contention with my weight loss counselors. I have requested they check into byetta and modify my diet plan accordingly. I haven't been nauseous in a couple months now. The new diet is low to no fat and it seems the fat is what used to trigger my severe nausea binges. I have become nauseous on low fat food but only when I try to get in all the food they require.
Dear Mr. Mendosa,
I could not agree with you more. Byetta has been a miracle drug for me. I have been a type II diabetic for 30 years. I am obese (275) and beginning to have complications. My family physician has had me on metformin, glyburide and 65 units of Novolog. I (finally) went to see an Endocrinologist (don't know what took me so long). He put me on 5mcg of Byetta, reduced my Novolog insulin to 40 units a day and discontinued the glyburide.
I have lost 14 pounds in 3 1/2 weeks! I used to have a terrible time controlling my appetite - especially in the evening. I have not had a SINGLE SNACK since starting this medication. I eat 3 small meals and that's that. I have been experiencing the nausea that some people seem to get and in truth, sometimes, I get VERY nauseous, but I will suffer gladly to get the results I have been getting. My blood sugars are better than they have been in YEARS! I've even had to cut down further on my insulin.
It's like having a stomach staple without the dangerous surgery!
I LOVE BYETTA!!!
Jeannie
Hi:
I just started byetta 5 2 x a day but I also take novalog 70/30 40 units daily and 1000 mg glucophage 2 x day. Because of the insulin, does this mean I have no chance of losing weight. Seems from reading comments, I haven't found anyone on insulin & byetta.
Dear Mr. Mendosa: Thank you for your reply, it was nice of you. I love this web site. I was about to have gastric bypass surgery, but I was hesitant because of the side effects. My diabetes began when I stopped smoking 6 years ago. I gain an unwanted 85 pounds that I couldn't get rid of, regardless of how hard I tried. I tried so hard to take those darn pounds off, but nothing worked until I tried Byetta. So I'm really looking forward to loosing the weight. Does anyone have a good diet they recommend?
Thanks,
Eve
Hi:
Thanks for your reply about my questions re: byetta and insulin. Sine then I am almost completely off insulin and have lost 4 pounds. I am still taking glucophage 1000 mg 2 x a day but that might have to be lowered too as I am getting some low readings for me 80-90 before supper and before bed. A few times it went lower before bedtime. I am supposed to start a 10 pen instead of 5 after my 30 days are up but I am concerned because of these low blood sugars. I have to contact my endo next week to let her know what is going on. Maybe she will stay with the 5 pen or decrease the glucophage. It is amazing how my blood sugars dropped to not requiring insulin. Just wish the weight loss was more.
Thanks again
I begain Byetta on Sept 1, 2007 and have been losing 2-2.5 pounds per week since that time. Also on metformin and glyburide (reduced does on glyburide when starting Byetta).A1C is currently 5.2 (was 5.8 before Byetta).
Three interesting observations:
(1) Tracking calories consumed per day, I am losing weight at the correct rate (based on energetics), now that I am on Byetta.
(2) If looking at the difference in calories consumed daily before and after Byetta, I am losing weight at about 2-3 times what would be expected from the daily change in calories. It looks like Byetta has changed my metabolic rate, as well as reduced calorie consumption.
I exercise 1 hour, 3 days per week (mix of cardio and weight lifting). Have been doing so for about 4 years. Since beginning Byetta, the amount of weight that I can lift (bench press) has increased at about 3 times the rate as before. It appears that Byetta is promoting muscle mass increase.
Thank you for your observations. I do indeed find them very interesting, particularly as you seem to have been tracking your changes very closely.
I would suggest that you soon talk with your doctor about the possibility of stopping glyburide. Since it is a sulfonylurea, it can make you go hypo now that your A1C is so good. Eventually you will be able to go off metformin too. When I started on Byetta in February 2006, I was on both drugs, but stopped the sulf immediately (with my doctor's approval) and my metformin when I ran out of the prescription I had on hand.
My daughter was started on Byetta about 2 weeks ago, 5 twice a day.
She became so nauseous that she was unable to take the morning dose and go to work.
She eliminated the morning shot and takes the 'before dinner' shot.
Within a hour she becomes very nauseous and will throw up her dinner.
She has to retire very early to sleep through the nausea.
She's very motivated to stay with the Byetta.
Lantus,Humilin N & R gives her every side effect there is. Oral Meds the same side effects.
She is trying to tolerate the evening shot so that she can once again work at taking the morning shot.
Her Doctor has prescribed Phenegran to help with the nausea, but she's not having too much success with that either.
Does anyone have any answers to this problem?
Dear Cochrane,
It probably would indeed help you to lose weight. But first you would have to find a doctor who would prescribe it. Doctors can prescribe it to you, although it is an off-label use. Still, that's not the main problem, which is that your insurance would likely not reimburse you for it. And without insurance, Byetta can be expensive, more than $200 per month. If you can afford it, it would be well worth it!
David
Byetta doesn't cause deaths. It will, in fact, make you live longer. Some people have been scared by reports that two people taking Byetta died from pancreatitis. But about a million people take Byetta and a higher percentage of people with diabetes who are NOT taking Byetta have died from pancreatitis in the meantime. Please hear Dr. Joe Prendergast's post about this. It's the best explanation that I know:
http://enews.endocrinemetabolic.com/2008/09/byetta-does-not-cause-pancreatitis.html
David
are you still available to talk about byetta these days? I just sstarted taking it for weight loss since all my other drugs make me gian and or not lose. I work out weights at least 3 times sometimes four a week and have at least 5 days of cardio i eat fish, kale and a ton of other good food and can hardly keep from gaining weight have done every test known to man and found out in feb,. i had fibromyalgia nad chronic fatigure. I take cymbalta, vynase, zyrtec D and now byetta (th my e previous drugs i have only been on a month since others such as prozac an lamictaql made me gian 40 pounds in two hyears which of course didn't help the depressionO) I have been on byetta since yesterday last night i took an ambien to sleep and this morning when i woke up was extremely exhaustedx even though 5mg of ambien has never done that to me and i slept a full eight hours. perhapds the ambien to get into my system wquickly enough because of hte slowed oral medicine? my doctor gave it ot me just for weight loss and your right the worst side effec tis price.
Dear Liz,
It's great that you are now using Byetta to help you bring down your weight. And it is common that when we start taking it, our energy level is lower. That's probably because you are eating much less. This is also something that people who start on a very low-carbohydrate diet also experience. When I started taking Byetta, for the first week or two I also felt very low energy. I was concerned enough about it that I asked my doctor about it, and he assured me that this was a temporary side effect. Sure enough, after a week or two on Byetta, I started to have much MORE energy than I had ever before had. Byetta, of course, doesn't MAKE us lose weight. It just makes it so much easier because we feel full on much less food. Please read my new book, "Losing Weight on Your Diabetes Medication. Amazon links it at http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Weight-Your-Diabetes-Medication/dp/1600940455/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210262852&sr=8-1
David Mendosa
I've struggled with weight for the last 15 years, and, now, after slipping (more like slamming) into menopause, it's only gotten worse. I'm finally getting my hormones in check with Bio-identicals (which are a God send), but I still struggle with hypothyroidism. I told the doctor that I had been working out for 40-60 min per day, 6 days a week for the last 4 weeks. I also included 15 minutes of weight training 4 days a week. I was on a 1500 caloried a day diet....I only lost 1 lb! And I was always hungrey!! When my labs came back indicatin 'pre-diabetes', my doctor immediately prescribed Byetta and Metformin. I pick up the medication today. But I have to say, I was terrified about taking these drugs. I do everything possible to NOT take drugs and work so hard going the natural way. But, having gained 27 pounds in a year while eating healthy AND exercising, I'm at the end of my rope. I found many articles and websites that explained what it does as well as defined all the possible side effects. It still scared the 'cr_p' out of me..until this blog! THANK YOU ALL for being so willing to share your concerns and progress. I feel so much better about the treatment. I'll be sure to write back and let everyone know how its working for me....and hopefully, this process will continue to help others, like myself, who are contemplating it's use. Thanks David. I'm ordering your book now!
Deb
Dear Deb,
I am so glad that I can help and that you want to lose weight -- and thereby go a long way toward controlling your diabetes. Byetta helped me lose a lot of weight, and it can work for you too. It will help you. It won't do it for you. It will help because you will feel full on less food -- if you listen to your body. Strangely, that's the problem for most of us!
Please keep in touch and let me know how you are doing!
David
I have type 2 diabetes, am a 69 year old female and have been on byetta for 18 months. I call it The Miracle Drug as does my endocrinologist. I take 10 mcg's twice a day. I have lost 30 pounds (down to 120) and my last A1C was 5.7. I got a gold star from my doctor. I was sooo excited. I look and feel better than I have in years. I was diagnosed about 10 years ago. A wonderful drug...go you little lizards!!
Just started Byetta 5 two days ago and have lost 5 lbs. I am not really having any nausea, but am dealing with heartburn. I notice I am slightly dizzy right after injection, but it doesn't last long. I have been on oral medications for many years (diagnosed in 1999 - started meds a year or so after) and added Lantus to the mix in 2004. This week was the first time I had ever seen an endocrinologist. After a change in health insurance plans I had been without the Lantus for about 2 months and my A1C was 12.5 (my highest ever - it as 10.4 in April). I also am unsure what my sugars were running on a regular basis because I was without testing supplies during that time. My numbers are not great (still most of them in the 200s) but I feel better. My vision seems to be less blurry, so I'm sure that my current levels are lower. I go back to see the endo in 3 weeks and he'll decide if I can continue on the Byetta or if we have to try something different (hopefully things will be enough improved that he keeps me on it, even if we have to go up to 10). I also take Gipizide 5 mg and Metformin 100 mg twice a day. I have noticed a decrease in my appetite - now I just have to stay focused on that and not continue to eat (so far so good) as I am an emotional eater. I wanted to try Byetta a long time ago but my family physician didn't think I was a good candidate. I'm glad I now get the chance to see if it will work for me.
hi, I've been on byetta for around a year and have lost a lot of weight really fast, but that has stopped, and my blood sugar hasn't gone down much the whole time. But now I am getting alerts on it that it has been linked to causing deaths and illnesses. One being pancreaitis. One symtem is having pains right below the ribs, and I had that about 2 months ago. I don't think I want to take it anymore. I've been searching in ask.com and google to find out and have found a lot of reference on it.
See your doctor about your pain in your rib.
However, Byetta doesn't cause pancreatitis. It will, in fact, make you live longer. Some people have been scared by reports that two people taking Byetta died from pancreatitis. But about a million people take Byetta and a higher percentage of people with diabetes who are NOT taking Byetta have died from pancreatitis in the meantime. Please hear Dr. Joe Prendergast's post about this. It's the best explanation that I know:
http://enews.endocrinemetabolic.com/2008/09/byetta-does-not-cause-pancreatitis.html
David
I also live in Bouder Colorado and my Doctor (Dr Rees-Jones ) has put me on Byetta. I am on my second week. Its the nausea and headaches that are bothering me right now. The BG is down and thats fine but what can i do to get over the nausea and headaches. Would like some advice some people that are on this.
Thanks Rose
Dear Rose,
Welcome neighbor! If you want to talk about Byetta (or anything concerning diabetes) please feel free to call me at (303) 499-5544. Meanwhile please read my tips on controlling nausea at http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/2085/nausea-byetta
I don't know about headaches. They are probably from something else, because they aren't a common side effect of Byetta. I certainly have never had any headaches on Byetta.
Best regards,
David
HELLO, SO HAPPY TO READ YOUR ARTICLE ON BYETTA. I JUST STARTED BYETTA ONE WEEK AGO, AND LET ME TELL YOU ...WOW... I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER, MY GLUCOSE IS DOWN TO NORMAL RANGE, AND I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD ANY SIDE EFFECTS AS OF YET. I HAVE BEEN ON A FEW MEDICINES IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND ALWAYS FELT BASICALLY LOUSY. SO FOR ME THIS IS A GOD SEND. THE INJECTIONS ARE A PIECE OF CAKE (OH BOY, EXCUSE THE PUN !) AND I WORRIED SO MUCH ABOUT THAT PART OF IT FOR NOTHING. THANK YOU FOR THE ARTICLE, AND BYETTA HAS MY VOTE !! MARY
Hi David, I started on Byetta a week ago (at the 5 ml) and haven't had the all the bad side effects that most write about. The two side effects I am having are: 1. Inceased need for sleep (up to 12 hours of sleep at night), and then there are times I am just confused or jittery like I've had a jolt of caffeine, and I don't drink coffee. I assume these "side effects" will go away with time. Because I am a member of an HMO that does not cover Byetta, I have to pay for it. I am lobbying for the group to change it's policy. They cover Viagra but not Byetta? My Endo asked that I keep track of my glucose numbers and they have fallen and I do feel better already. What kept me from starting Byetta was that I was SUPER afraid of doing the injections. I have since learned that my leg is a great spot to administer the twice daily dose. I remember your advice about finding the place that is least sensitive about the "poke." Thanks so very much for your encouragement and research about diabetes. Best, Marilyn
I've been on it since 2005, 10mcq. I read all of todays threads because I've been having problems lately and 95% were all the same that I have read here. I have noticed if the pen is not refrigerated and nearing the end of the month I don't feel "right" after the dose. It took me 3 months to get used to stomach pain and nausea. The past year I notice headach and irritability at evening dose. Although I lost 45 lbs to start, for 3 yrs I've lost none, but I also know I'm not eating right. But lately I feel pretty bad, loss of energy which goes with diabetes but seems to be heightend after my dose. Btw, here is MD a pen cost $300 :( $68 for me with ins which is still hard. I have experienced some severe hypoglycemia when not eating enough. I am a little borderline with 50lbs more to loose so I know it is part me and part the medicine. I came here today for comfort and found it, validation that is. I do not take a pill. I started on metaforamin, but it did not help,but I was also eating wrong. The other pills were too strong and do make you gain weight. Metaforamin can too for some people. Latlely I feel too tired to do anything much less exercise and I know enough to know why and that there are others like me so I am not a "bad" person but hoping to get healthier. I need to connect with more diabetics, I've traveled this alone too long. And btw too, I am now 64, female, and been overweight all my life and embarassed to say, a nurse, but unable to work now. I want to be healthier. I made an urgent appt. with my doc to try to make a plan, I am thinking 5mcq and metaforamin for better control. I hope my sharing helps others.
Dear Fran,
I know that many people stop losing weight on Byetta after a while. That has been the experience of my best friend. But it certainly was not my experience as Byetta made it possible for me to lose more than 100 pounds in the two years that I used it. I only stopped because I wanted to see if I could control my diabetes and my weight on a very low-carb diet alone (I have done so). Maybe the difference was that from the time I first went on Byetta I adopted a low-carb diet. I really think that the first step is to cut out all sucrose and fructose from our diets. I say "first step" because it is so easy! We have so many alternatives today (my sweetener of choice is stevia). The second step is to gradually cut back on all grains, which includes wheat, rice, corn, barley, oats, and more, and all forms of potatoes. The third step is to cut them out completely. Except for barley, they are all high glycemic and all of the grains, including barley, have high levels of lectins, which are hard for our bodies to handle as we have had grains in our food for only a relatively short part of human existance, and we don't have the genetic capacity to handle them. If you let Byetta help you to overcome the hunger as you let go of these sugars and starches, it will.
But one more key point: when you go on a very low-carb diet you must increase the amount of the good fats that you eat, because you have to get your energy somewhere -- and fats are the ONLY alternative.
Best regards,
David
Dear David.....thank you so much for taking the time to respond.
I saw your website long ago and what you say is 100% right for me. I also need to stay in touch with other diabetics for support too. I have not done what I knew I should...I'm taking everything in my cabinets that should not be there, to the food pantry tomorrow. And I'm going put your note on my refrigerator to remind me and to regain courage. Another 40 lbs will make my body weight "normal" and I hope, act normal or at least feel better.
Thanks for the starting and keeping this website.
Fran
My doctor took me off of Glyburide because she says it causes weight gain. I still take Metformin, though. Ask your doctor about Glyburide.
Thanks!
My doctor took me off of Glyburide because she says it causes weight gain. I still take Metformin, though. Ask your doctor about Glyburide.
Thanks!
Hi, I have been on the Byetta 10 pen for at least 4 years. It is a good medication if used correctly. Give yourself a shot in the morning an hour before breakfast and then eat. Make sure you don't eat fruit at breakfast. I was told I could have 1 piece of whole wheat bread with sugar free jelly if I wanted to and sometimes I do and don't. I usually eat one egg with the yolk and one or 2 -3 egg whites with 2 pieces of bacon that is turkey bacon very lean. I drink hot tea with 2 packets of splenda. Water too. If I don't do this I have oatmeal with the other things mentioned. For lunch have something that is the size of the palm of your hand if eating meat and have vegetables like greens of some sort and a good starch with low glycemic numbers. Eat fruit at this time too and a salad with the correct dressing. Dip the salad don't put it on it. Before dinner take the other shot an hour before eating and do the same as you did for lunch. Do not eat anything that comes from white things such as flour, sugar, bread, rice. If it is white or made with anything white don't eat it. Buy the Glycemic books in the bookstore and pick the one that suits you the best and try to pick foods that you like that would be a balanced meal and try to use the low to med in the index. You can mix the 2 or just stay one or the other. Lower is best. There are things that will help you by learning the PORTION sizes of what you should be eating. With that and exercising everyday or nearly everyday for 45 minutes to an hour (check you blood as you do this to make sure you are not going too low in you sugar--Do it until you know yourself really well.) If you eat the right portions and balance your meals, don't eat bread much at all and watch what you put on it like butter, ( I use a little Smart Balance if I need the butter taste. It is good!) then you will start to see inches come off first if not the pounds. It will work but you cannot exceed the portion sizes and stay on a calorie count if you can that your doctor recommends. Talk to him or her about how much you should use for a vege portion or whatever it is to make sure. Walking at least for an hour or 45 minutes will help if you do nothing else. Weight might come off slowly just doing that but figure out things that would be good choices for you for exercise. I do dvd's with Leslie Sansone/power walking/very easy. Slowly work your stamina up and soon you will be surprised how fast you can work out. I lost 50 pounds in 4 months this way. I stopped exercising and couldn't afford my Byetta anymore so I have gained 30 back over 8 months. I am trying very hard to get back on it. Oh, you may get nausiated for a while but you will get better as time goes on. you may only feel that way once in a while and it passes fast with me as I get my mind on something else. It is worth it. It isn't bad for me. If this does not help I am sorry. It worked for me and I wish this for you. Just remember what is good to eat from the glycemic index books, portions , all that I already mentioned. Good luck and have patients because iffff you do this you may loose inches a lot first /more than pounds. It will drop off. Remember the exercising. That was a key thing I have to say. That is also one reason I gained back outside of I couldn't afford it. Good wishes for you! Ps the 5 pen on most people do not lose until they have gotten on the 10 pen for a little bit.
Forgot to mention that my A1C numbers were 5.2, 5.3, 5.4 while doing it as I descscribed to you and now because I eat larger portions and do not exercise, am not on Byetta I am a 6.2. So you can see the difference.
Much luck ( I am the one that wrote a really long note to you.
Dott. Soffro di diabete di tipo 2 a da tanto tempo che prendo N° 2 Compresse Avandamet 4/1000 mg mattina e sera + 1 compressa a mezzogiorno metaform 1000 mg sono ingrassato parecchio. Ora sono andato a visita dove mi ha cambiato la cura,e mi ha levato di prendere le compresse di Avandamet 4/1000mg e mi ha detto di fare così: la mattina prendere N° 1 compressa di Metafotm da 1000mg, un'ora prima di pranzo e cena fare una puntura di BYETTE da 5 mg e la sera prendere pure N° 1 compressa di metaform da 1000 mg. Così dovrei pure dimagrire, dice proviamo così per un mese circa se va bene passiamo alla BYETTE da 10 mg. Dott. pensa che riesco a dimagrire.
Please write in English so most readers can understand.
David