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Chia Seeds

by  David Mendosa
Thursday, December 13, 2007

You might think that everyone who has diabetes would know about a seed that is superior to other plant and marine sources of essential omega-3 oils. It is also high in antioxidants and fiber. Besides that, it is high in protein and lipids, is low in sodium, and has fewer net carbs than most other ...

  1. Untitled Comment
    Christopher Wheeler
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 09:12 AM

    David,

     

    Interesting, I came across a small mention of chia seeds somewhere just two days ago, and I've been thinking about trying it, but hadn't really decided on it. Now, after reading this, I think I probably will, as soon as I get some money! Thanks.


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    re: Untitled Comment
    David Mendosa
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 10:21 AM

    Dear Christopher,

     

    I understand. Are you still in college or graduate school? That's really tough with a wife and children. I wrote about such money problems at http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/13985/health-wealth 


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    re: re: Untitled Comment
    Christopher Wheeler
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 10:28 AM

    My wife is in grad school (Masters in Social Work) and I am undergrad. I'll actually be starting in a nursing program in the summer.

     

    I do remember that article you wrote about "Health and Wealth" and I am truly a firm believer in that. For those with very low incomes, what else can you afford other than rice, pasta, ramen, etc.


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    re: re: re: Untitled Comment
    David Mendosa
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 10:40 AM

    Dear Christopher,

     

    I have a strong feeling that you will be a great nurse -- knowledgeable and caring.  


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  2. Research
    Jedid
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 11:13 AM

    Hi David,

    Have you heard of the Salba (chia variety) research that was done in diabetes patients?

    They found that Salba lowered inflammation, blood pressure and blood clotting. Salba has so many health effects..


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    re: Research
    David Mendosa
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 11:36 AM

    Dear Jedid,

     

    Please read my article on chia seeds (above). I did write about Salba there. 


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    Untitled Comment
    Christopher Wheeler
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 01:19 PM
    Regarding the Salba, as far as I can see then, is there really isn't a difference between the white and black except price? The Salba is EXPENSIVE!
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    re: Untitled Comment
    David Mendosa
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 01:25 PM

    Dear Christopher,

     

    Right. That is just what Dr. Coates says. And it was already what I had concluded. 


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    re: re: Untitled Comment
    Christopher Wheeler
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 01:29 PM

    I just called my local health food organic co-op type place to see if they carried chia seeds. The girl said somebody asked a long time ago, and they don't carry it, but could special order it... for $40+ per pound!!! It must have been the Salba, instead of the generic black seeds.

     

    I was getting ready to order some seeds, I figured I could spare $9, but the shipping would be the expensive part I think. 


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    re: re: re: Untitled Comment
    David Mendosa
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 01:52 PM

    Dear Christopher,

     

    Maybe so. My last order (from chiaseedandoil.com) included $7.69 for shipping three pounds. They do have a flat rate of $10 for 2 to 6 bags of 1.5 pounds each. The next time I am going to get 6 bags.


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    re: re: re: re: Untitled Comment
    Anonymous
    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 02:03 AM

    Try www.getchia.com

    just got my order super fast free priority mail shipping and the best price and quality of seed=)


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    re: no difference chias and Salba?
    Jedid
    Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 10:44 AM
    How do you know there is no difference? What is the nutritional difference between all those chia varieties, and what impact does that have on our health?
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    re: re: no difference chias and Salba?
    David Mendosa
    Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 01:21 PM
    Actually, all the chia seeds commercially sold are one variety in two different colors. My article linked a table comparing them.
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  3. Great article David
    Scott Johnson
    Friday, December 14, 2007 at 10:05 PM
    Thanks for this great information.  I always very much appreciate all the info you share with us all!
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  4. Chia Seeds
    Luv-my-chia
    Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 01:14 AM

    Hi!

    Given that I'm a walking rave for these great little seeds I'm surprizingly slow at chiming in here. Busy!

     

    I'm so glad you've posted this David!

     

    As I indicated at your 'Dawn Phenomenon' post, I swear by chia seeds. I eat a lot more than you do and love them. I eat a TBSP before morning walk and breakfast, about another 4 TBSPs thru the day and 1 more at bedtime. Yes, a total of 6 TBSP but its worth it!

    They:

    - help stabilize my blood sugars all day and night, (details in my other post) and improved A1c of 5.8.

    - give me a tremendous energy boost.

    - curb my appetite and cravings.

    - are a great digestive aid and keep me from having acid stomach.

    - keep things 'moving along' more enjoyably than metamucil and such. 

     

    They are helping friends and family in those and other ways including better sleep pattern, helping with mood, make smoking less desirable.  

     

    I love their 'tapioca like' texture in liquids or puddings but they can be used in tons of ways. I also get them 6 bags at a time from www.ArizonaChia.com .

     


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    re: Chia Seeds
    Earlene
    Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 06:23 PM
    I bought chia seeds and have used them in drinks and as a topping but would like to have your pudding recipe. My internet search turned up mostly raw food recipes based on bananas mixed with other fruit. I am thinking of a tapioca type with soy milk or tofu and a pumpkin pie flavor but wonder how much chia to add to get the right texture.
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    re: re: Chia Seeds
    luv-my-chia
    Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 05:48 AM

    I don't have a specific pudding recipe. I just mix 2-4 TBSP into the pudding depending on how many servings I'm making. I use diet pudding mix if I'm feeling lazy. If I feel like cooking I mix soy milk or milk, tofu, eggs, stevia, vanilla or cocoa, and of course chia. I've had to experiment with quantities and don't have it perfect yet as I don't do it often.

     

    I also add them to diet jell-o - works best if I can remember to re-stir when it is just beginning to gel. 

    And I add them to stir fry, soups and drink them warm in soup broth - yummy! My sis has added them to multi-grain breads she bakes and I've added a generous quantity to a flax meal muffin recipe of my own concoction.

     

    A friend mixes them into cereal - hot or cold. Another mixes them into peanut butter or jelly to make her kids sandwiches.

    They can also be added to yogurt, casseroles, meat loaf, salads, cole slaw or just about anything. I like to experiment.

     

    Here are some websites that have recipes:

     http://www.arizonachia.com/recipes/free.pdf  this is an 11 page pdf of recipes

    http://www.sourcesalba.com/view-recipes.php?category_id=18

    Salba is an expensive brand name for chia

    http://ladiehlcrr.abmp.com/products/hpdi/proddtls/recipeschia.htm


    http://www.natures-emporium.com/chianrecipes.html

     


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  5. Joy of Chia
    LMB
    Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 04:07 PM

    I am one of the grateful recipients of the immediately preceding poster's evangelizing! I eat approx. 1 TBS at breakfast, 1-2 TBS at lunch, and maybe 1TBS for an afternoon or evening snack.  I find the chia nonpalatable when in gel form, so always eat unsoaked, uncooked.

     

    I can attest to the smoking-suppression effects of chia.  For approx. 1 hr. immediately after ingestion I have no desire for a cigarette.  When I am finally ready to quit for good I plan to incorporate chia into my planned accupuncture and herb quitting regime.  I also notice digestive and appetite suppressant benefits of chia.

     

    What else is there to say?  Chia Rocks!  So, BTW, does Arizona Chia, for their great product at reasonable price and prompt professional service!

     

    Thanks for the great article, David! 


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  6. Cosmic Synergy, lol
    Dee Sperling
    Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 03:59 PM

    I read about chia seeds on a Yahoo list I belong to that discusses kombucha tea, kefir, and other probiotic producing foods, and decided to give them a try.

    The best price I found is at http://www.getchia.com/  AND they have free shipping.

    After ordering, I realized I should have researched what you thought first, luckily, you like them!  Whew!

    Thanks for all you do for me and others with diabetes.

    Best regards,

    Dee


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    re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    David Mendosa
    Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 06:38 PM

    Dee,

     

    Thank you! We will check out your source.

     

    David 


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    re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    luv-my-chia
    Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 12:30 AM

    Cosmic,

    I'm always on the lookout for the best deal, but this is not really it. Though shipping may be free for 10 lb you still pay $7.50 per lb.
    With www.ArizonaChia.com you pay $6 per lb and $10 priority mail shipping for 9 lbs of seeds for a total $64 or $7.11 per lb. Also you have to use PayPal and I won't due negative past experiences.

    Another place someone told me about, www.purenatures.com does seem a bit competative while their chia is on sale.
    My efriend reports $61.73 for 10 lbs. which is $6.12 per lb
    but
    their chia is on sale at 10 lbs for $44.95 so that is 16.74 for S&H. I've emailed them pointing out that a flat rate priority box could be done for much less like Arizona Chia does - but I suspect they try to keep prices looking low by adding the handling to the postage.
    At their regular price of 10 lbs for $69.99 plus the same shipping it is $86.73 or $8.67 per lb.

    So while theirs is on sale one could save nearly a dollar a lb but in the long run Arizona Chia still comes out the best.

     

    But I think we should each get it where we think best. I'm still delighted with all the great effects I get from chia seeds and am even giving some as a Christmas present.


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    re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    lul-my-chia
    Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 04:31 PM

    Whoops! that's not clear.

    I mean that with getchia.com you have to use PayPal.


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    re: re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    Anonymous
    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 01:58 AM

    You don't have to use PayPal with

    www.GetChia.com

    They use them to process the credit cards, but you don't have to be a member or signup etc.

    Also, PayPal does not contact or solicit you, they just make their cut on processing the payment - Thought you should know!


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    re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    Anonymous
    Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 08:20 PM

    Thanks for the input, luv-my-chia.

    I will definitely keep those websites in mind if I order more.

    I chose the getchia website for the free shipping, since I just wanted a little bit to try.

    Dee


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    re: re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    luv-my-chia
    Friday, December 21, 2007 at 06:29 AM

    Cosmic,

    Always happy to get or share new info - esp about chia seeds.

     


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    re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    Anonymous
    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 02:01 AM

    Hey, just checked the

    www.GetChia.com site and found out their 10 pounder is only $70 INCLUDING shipping!

    I bought it at that rate anyway and I have had lightning quick FREE priority mail delivery and perfect supreme grade A+ seed!

    thought you should know!


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    re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    healthnut
    Thursday, March 06, 2008 at 08:13 AM
    hey luv-my-chia!  i am a kinda health nut, and my go to place just starting selling chia seeds and i decided to google around to learn more about them.  (hence, i landed here).  guess what!  i found an even better deal.  my go to place, nutsonline.com, sells them starting at 4.99 a pound and goes as low as 3.70 a pound.  there is shipping, but you can order 10 pounds across the country and with shipping it only comes to 6.04 a pound.  check it out- chia seeds at NutsOnline.com.  You can also get all kinds of nuts there, and even quinoa, which is super healthy.  haha...sounds like an advertisement.  hehe.  i am so excited to get my chia!

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    re: re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    luv-my-chia
    Thursday, March 06, 2008 at 05:34 PM

    Hey healthnut!

    Thanks for the info.

    Alas, I have a US PO, I am not mainland USA and their shipping here is too much. I've emailed them about the advantages of using flat rate priority boxes and if they offer that option in the future I'll likely switch as it would make them very competitive. Will let you know here IF they reply. They look like a source for a couple of other things I get online - or would like to - again IF they can make a competitive shipping rate.  


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    re: re: re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    luv-my-chia
    Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 02:13 AM

    Update: http://www.nutsonline.com/ is willing to accomodate individual needs for flat rate priority postage, by accepting email or phone orders. So they do become compertitive in price even for those of us living in a far off territory vs the States themselves. Statesiders may not theed that accomodation as the FedEx and UPS lowest rates are in the same range. Since they have affordable ground cinnamon which I've also been seeking an online source for, as the stuff is rather expensive here, I will likely make the switch. I certainly will be watching for chia to come up on their weekly specials.


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    re: re: re: re: re: Cosmic Synergy, lol
    healthnut
    Monday, March 24, 2008 at 04:33 PM
    Yippee!  I am so happy luv-my-chia!  Yay chia!  Yay nutsonline.com Tongue
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  7. Chia seeds
    Bucky
    Thursday, January 03, 2008 at 09:57 PM

    Mr. Mendosa,

    I read on line, because of its high fiber content, don't take chia within 2 hours of any medication, as it can interfere with the  absorbtion.  Do you know anything about this?  I have just recently started taking chia.  So far, I like it much better than flax.


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    re: Chia seeds
    David Mendosa
    Thursday, January 03, 2008 at 10:27 PM

    Dear Bucky,

     

    Good question. I haven't heard of interactions between fiber and medication before. But that could be true. I suggest that you ask your doctor.

     

    Best regards,

     

    David 


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  8. Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia?
    Gary
    Friday, January 04, 2008 at 12:47 AM

    I just have to ask. Chia, as in "Chia Pets"? I have visions of bald diabetics sprouting green hair ;>


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    re: Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia?
    David Mendosa
    Friday, January 04, 2008 at 12:50 AM

    Dear Gary,

     

    Yes, there is a connection. Apparently Chia Pets are quite well known (but not to me). I ran across references to them several times in my research on chia seed.

     

    Hey, green hair is better than no hair!

     

    David 


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  9. GetChia
    Anonymous
    Thursday, January 10, 2008 at 02:13 AM

    Yep, THANKS!

    Just ordered from the GetChia.com site and can't wait to try!


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  10. Arizona Chia
    Robert K. Baker
    Wednesday, January 16, 2008 at 12:51 AM

    Beware of purchasing from Arizona Chia.  They have a practice of double billing your credit card and then not responding when you raise the issue.

     

    Robert K. Baker

    RKB@andso.com

     


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    Correction
    David Mendosa
    Wednesday, January 16, 2008 at 03:20 PM

    The owner of Arizona Chia, Dr. Wayne Coates, just informed me as follows:

     

    "What happened was a glitch in the authorize.net server which processes our cards.  Once we found the error which was just today, we credited immediately."

     

    David 

     

     

     

     


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    re: Correction
    Robert K. Baker
    Wednesday, January 16, 2008 at 03:44 PM

    Mr Mendosa,

     

    Is the explanation plausible? You decide!

     

    The double charge to my credit card was made on December 31, 2007. Arizona Chia was notified of the double charge and ask to make the necessary reversing enry on January 4, 2008.

     

    By January 15, 2008, no action had been taken. At one a.m. on Januar 16, 2008, Arizona Chia was sent another notice and an indication I would take appropriate action. More significantly the warning which gave rise to this exchange was posted on the Diabetes web site.

     

    Under these circumstances they were able to find the error in less than 18 hours. In fact it was only six hours into the business day.

     

    You decide whether it really took them ten days to "find the error" or whether they were merely responding to bad publicity.

     

    There is no evidence and it seems unlikely that Dr. Coates is the sort who would sanction such behavior, but perhaps he should take a look at the people working for him.

     

    If it happens again, it is his responsibility!

     

    Robert K. Baker

     


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  11. Untitled Comment
    Earlene
    Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 06:14 PM

    I have been buying GG bran crackers to have something crunchy. They come from Norway and are getting very expensive. I decided to try making some myself but used ground chia seeds instead of the small amount of rye flour on the ingredient list.

    My crackers turned out great! I used two cups of wheat bran and one cup of ground(by me) chia seeds. I mixed them well dry and added water till it looked like I could press it out. I had to put it back in the bowl because it was still too dry. I kept adding water untill it was softer and then pressed it out as thin as I could over a foil lined jelly roll pan(cookie sheet). I shaped it into a large rectangle,rolled it thinner and baked it for 15 min. before scoring it into squares. I baked it (350 degrees, sorry) for about 30 min. more. I then turned the oven off and let it sit overnight. I have a great oven that does pure convection, convection bake, and regular bake. I used convection bake which blows hot air and heats from the bottom so I did not have to turn anything over, it was toooo big. I will try ground flax seeds next, the ground chia tasted less wonderful than I expected, I thought a little fishy. I may also try it with a small measured ammount of rye flour which is on the GiGi package or just less chia. I did not figure the carbs but I cant eat more than two at a time because I think they swell to the size of baseballs!
    I had two for lunch covered with a mix of Trader Joe's canned red salmon, a spoon of TJ's Aoli mustard and some chopped green onions. Sardines are also good this way. I have plenty of salmon for another lunch and enough crackers for quite a while. I got about a dozen nicely shaped ones an quite a few edge bits which might make few servings of cereal if I break them up add some hot water to soften and then some cream. I have done that with two GiGi crackers.


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  12. soaking/sprouting
    Zane Baranowski
    Thursday, May 08, 2008 at 02:47 PM

    Hello,

    There IS a HUGE difference in soaking/sprouting chia.

    We have perfected a sprouting technique for chia, and see an ORAC rating with the sprouted chia as 2.5X higher than non-sprouted.

    To say there is NO difference in sprouting is simply not true.

    Thanks,

    Zane Baranowski, CN

    sprouts@frontier.net


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    re: soaking/sprouting
    David Mendosa
    Thursday, May 08, 2008 at 03:15 PM

    Dear Zane,

     

    Very interesting. Where can I see a publication of the ORAC rating you mention?

     

    David Mendosa


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