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Good Veggies

David Mendosa
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Medical Journalist Living with Diabetes and Author of Fitness and Photography for Fun, www.mendosa.com/fitnessblog

After earning a B.A. with honors from the University of California,...

David Mendosa

Thursday, February 07, 2008
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When I began to eat a very low-carb diet in December, I was in for several surprises. The biggie was how easy low-carb eating is for me. I had long thought -- and written -- that it was hard to be satisfied without a heavy load of carbs. Experience taught me otherwise.Another surprise was how many ve...
  1. Good Veggies
    verdungal
    Friday, February 08, 2008 at 09:26 AM

    Hi David:

     

    Great article! I just checked my WH Foods Book Total Nutrient Richness Chart and Crimini Mushrooms are listed as 47 and tomatoes are listed as 34.

     

    The Gl Index of Sweet Potatoes is 61 Medium and I have often read that they has been classified as an 'anti-diabetic' food because of some recent studies in which they were shown to help stabilize blood sugar levels and lowered insulin resistance. Some of its blood sugar regulatory properties may come from come from the fact that sweet potatoes are rich in carotenoids, which may be inversely associated with insulin resistance and high blood sugar levels. With all the Vitamin A it contains , don't you think they might be a good choice once in a while?

     

    verdungal

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    re: Good Veggies
    David Mendosa
    Friday, February 08, 2008 at 10:18 AM

    Dear Verdundal,

     

    Thank you!

     

    I considered including sweet potatoes in the list of the "Good Veggies." As you say, they are indeed low-glycemic and do rate high in micronutrients. The only reason why I left them out is because they are high in carbs. Certainly, if you are not following a low-carb diet, they are a great choice.

     

    Best regards,

     

    David 

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    nonegiven
    Friday, February 08, 2008 at 06:14 PM

    In survey of low carb dieters on an online support forum, among successful dieters (kept off 30lb for 1 year) 79% said they had greatly increased their consumption of low carb vegetables.
    http://www.nutritionj.com/content/pdf/1475-2891-5-26.pdf

    This is not a big shock to anyone who has low carbed for a while or even read one of the books all the way through.






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    Lorraine
    Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 05:51 PM
    Have you considered steaming your veggies rather than boiling them?  They retain more nutrients and also taste much better.  Also water that stays in the drip pan can be used as soup and sauce bases.
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    Vicki M
    Monday, February 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM

    Hi Lorraine,


    That sounds like a great idea, particularly being able to use the stock for broth, but how do you get stock from veggies that aren't particularly watery to begin with? Like carrots, peppers and cauliflower? I tend to have to add quite a bit of water to them to steam them and what is left over isn't enough for stock. I am using a pot on the stove with a basket inside. Should I get an actual steamer?

    Vicki M

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    Lorraine
    Monday, February 11, 2008 at 02:08 PM
    Hi, Vickie, I just bought a two tier electric steamer and haven't done carrots in it, but did an artichoke.  It has a drip tray under the steamer basket where all the steam that rolls off the meat or veggies drains and quite a bit accumulates.  Especially good with chicken.  Have not tried a basket and pot, so can't comment there.
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    re: yes you can get broth..
    Joe Gallace
    Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 05:26 PM

     

      Hi lorraine and David, I always read your columns and epecially

     on diet. I been meaning to write you regarding those green-leaf

     vegetables many times before (I been using then for years) but

     never got around to it. Not only are they low carb and low-GI

     but also full of fiber and almost all vitamins- especially if you

     include a good variety- I use almost ALL in your list, when once

     a month I make my "green" soup (you missed bitter melon and

     boy choy).

       First I boil those well in little water but KEEP the juice.

      Then I run them through a blender to MASH up the cooked

      veggies and then I sometimes put them though a jiuicer.

      (you may have to add a little water- but some of then (eg cukes peppers) have lots juice). 

       Finally I re-boil the mashed pulp to end up with well-done

       veggie-broth soup and freeze it. I make enough to last a month.

         Finally I like to add that in THIS form (as broth), the Vitamins

       and fiber are a LOT easier for the body to absorb.

        You also missed one other important point- that ALL those

         veggies a ALKALINE foods and will neutralize an acid-food

        diet (which most of us eat). This "green" soup is excellent

        if you have any problems with your digestion.

                               Joe from Ottawa

             (will be following your columns)

        

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    David Mendosa
    Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 07:31 PM

    Dear Joe,

     

    Thank you for providing all of your excellent suggestions!

     

    David 

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    David Mendosa
    Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 07:54 PM

    Dear Lorraine,

     

    Yes. In fact, I have steamed my veggies for years. I should have suggested steaming, rather than boiling, in my article. Thank you.

     

    David 

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  4. Veggie diet & exercise
    Bob Nichols
    Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 01:42 PM

    I too strive to keep my carbs low, however, I also exercise vigorously several times a week and I don' need to lose wt.

    I need to maintain my wt, at 180 pounds (I'm 6'1" tall).

    How do I go veggie and still maintain my phy exercise?

    Thanks, Bob

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    David Mendosa
    Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 12:54 PM

    Dear Bob,

     

    Good question. The question really has to be how do I get enough protein? That's why I focused on protein sources in my article, "The Low-Carb Vegetarian" at http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/20763/lowcarb-vegetarian/

     

    Please check it out.

     

    Best regards,

     

    David 

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    Bob
    Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 07:12 PM

    I am getting my protein, so no problem there and maybe I can continue with my current diet.

    I have been off medication for about 18 months and my last three A1c's have been; 6.1, 6.0 and 6.5, so all is well in that department.

    However I am going to try more veggies and keep up my exercise routine.

    I have learned to believe "it can be done"

    Bob

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  5. Veggies
    father bill
    Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 06:09 PM
    Am taking COUMADIN. Vegies contain vitamin "K" which works against Coumadin. Therefor I eat a minimum of vegies.
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    David Mendosa
    Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 07:01 PM

    Dear Father Bill,

     

    It is certainly true that that SOME vegetables contain high amounts of Vitamin K that are difficult use use with coumadin. I know that well because my wife had to take it for several years before she died.

     

    But not all veggies. Per drugs.com, "Large amounts of vitamin K are found in foods such as liver, broccoli, brussels sprouts, spinach, Swiss chard, coriander, collards, cabbage, and other green leafy vegetables. Do not change the amount of these foods in your diet without first talking to your doctor."

     

    That doesn't mean you can't eat them. What it means is that you have to keep your INR levels steady. That means you can actually have these vegetables every day. Which means further that you need to have your levels tested regularly. The best way, of course, is to get one of the new home tests. That way you can adjust your coumadin levels to your diet.  

     

    Best regards,

     

    David 

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    Bob
    Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 07:19 PM

    I am glad you informed me of this, as I take 7mg of coumadin daily, so I will ck with my doctor.  And, I may invest in the home testing kit.

    Bob

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  6. Good Veggies
    Anonymous
    Wednesday, March 05, 2008 at 10:31 AM
    David,
    Bravo on this article. Since I was diagnosed as diabetic (about 3 yrs ago), I have been following a basic low GI/GL diet (high in the veggies you mention) and have gotten my diabetes and weight under control (TSH: from >8 to 6.0, weight: from >250 lb to 175 lb).

    However, a few words of caution. As you mentioned to Father Bill below, you need to be careful and understand your own bodies needs and requirements and adjust accordingly. What works for someone else may not work for you. What this means is we all need to be pro-active with our own care and determine what works for us as an individual (as you well know).

    For example: along with my diabetes I am also hypo-thyroid and have problems w/ oxalate kidney stones so Kale is an absolute no-no for me (acts counter to the thyroid meds I take and is high in oxalates). Some other common foods that act in this same way (anti-thyroid and/or high oxalate) are most of the Cruciferous vegetables (Broccoli, Cauliflower, etc), most dark leafy greens (such as collard greens, spinach, etc), and strawberries (to name a few).

    If you were to ask me if I avoid these veggies -- absolutely not --. But I do monitor the amount and combinations I eat (like avoiding eating three high oxalate foods in the same meal, or on the same day). I often joke that if I avoided all the foods that were problematic for me, then I would have to stop eatting and take a giant vitamin pill (oh my - shades of soylent green Wacko ).

    Keep up the good work,

    RichardLN2
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    David Mendosa
    Wednesday, March 05, 2008 at 11:47 AM

    Dear Richard,

     

    You make some excellent points. I often forget that many of my readers have other problems besides diabetes that they have to consider. The multiplicity of co-morbidities sure can make life complex!

     

    Best regards,

     

    David 

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    Richard
    Wednesday, March 05, 2008 at 12:19 PM

    David,

    It's like when my father (who was diabetic as well)  was talking with a neighbor and stated: "It's Hell getting old", to which the neighbor replied: "No, but it is **** inconvenient" Big Grin

     

    In the process of making sure I had some facts correct for my original post I just discovered that some of the cholestorol meds i'm taking may act counter to my thyroid meds and shouldn't be taken within 5 hours of each other.  Which may mean I need to shuffle (once again) which order I am taking my current pharmacy of drugs. One more item to add to my (LONG) list of items to discuss w/ my Endoc. at my next appt.  Oh Well...

     

    Peace,

    RichardLN2 

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  7. THOSE COOL COLLARDS
    carobsweet
    Thursday, March 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM

       Glad to see collards getting their due.....Wink  You might want to try using a pressure cooker to cook them, with the meat, partially cooked going in.... Keeps the flavor in and maintains the fiberousity....

     

       I'll be over next time you are in the kitchen......lol!Tongue

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    Esther Bartin
    Tuesday, December 09, 2008 at 02:36 PM

    I like the way you you write & explain how you come to reasonings. I can follow you easily, & for me this is good news. You make it easy to understand & learn.

    Thank you

    Esther B. 

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  9. Green Vegetables are Great Tasting, Too.
    Cynthia
    Saturday, January 03, 2009 at 10:18 PM

    Most of my recipes now begin with ...."saute and onion in a bit of olive oil".  It is amazing how much flavor a bit of onion can add to green vegetables.  Try growing a bit of green where you live. Today was fresh kale from my garden...with the sauteed onion.  It only takes a little bit of olive oil to add flavor.  I also add just a pinch of salt to the onions as they cook. Here's to your success!  Thanks for the great tips....

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