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Good Veggies
verdungal
Friday, February 08, 2008 at 09:26 AMre: Good Veggies
David Mendosa
Friday, February 08, 2008 at 10:18 AMDear Verdundal,
Thank you!
I considered including sweet potatoes in the list of the "Good Veggies." As you say, they are indeed low-glycemic and do rate high in micronutrients. The only reason why I left them out is because they are high in carbs. Certainly, if you are not following a low-carb diet, they are a great choice.
Best regards,
David
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nonegiven
Friday, February 08, 2008 at 06:14 PM
In survey of low carb dieters on an online support forum, among successful dieters (kept off 30lb for 1 year) 79% said they had greatly increased their consumption of low carb vegetables.
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/pdf/1475-2891-5-26.pdf
This is not a big shock to anyone who has low carbed for a while or even read one of the books all the way through.
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Lorraine
Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 05:51 PMHave you considered steaming your veggies rather than boiling them? They retain more nutrients and also taste much better. Also water that stays in the drip pan can be used as soup and sauce bases.re: Untitled Comment
Vicki M
Monday, February 11, 2008 at 10:25 AMHi Lorraine,
That sounds like a great idea, particularly being able to use the stock for broth, but how do you get stock from veggies that aren't particularly watery to begin with? Like carrots, peppers and cauliflower? I tend to have to add quite a bit of water to them to steam them and what is left over isn't enough for stock. I am using a pot on the stove with a basket inside. Should I get an actual steamer?
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Lorraine
Monday, February 11, 2008 at 02:08 PMHi, Vickie, I just bought a two tier electric steamer and haven't done carrots in it, but did an artichoke. It has a drip tray under the steamer basket where all the steam that rolls off the meat or veggies drains and quite a bit accumulates. Especially good with chicken. Have not tried a basket and pot, so can't comment there.re: yes you can get broth..
Joe Gallace
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 05:26 PMHi lorraine and David, I always read your columns and epecially
on diet. I been meaning to write you regarding those green-leaf
vegetables many times before (I been using then for years) but
never got around to it. Not only are they low carb and low-GI
but also full of fiber and almost all vitamins- especially if you
include a good variety- I use almost ALL in your list, when once
a month I make my "green" soup (you missed bitter melon and
boy choy).
First I boil those well in little water but KEEP the juice.
Then I run them through a blender to MASH up the cooked
veggies and then I sometimes put them though a jiuicer.
(you may have to add a little water- but some of then (eg cukes peppers) have lots juice).
Finally I re-boil the mashed pulp to end up with well-done
veggie-broth soup and freeze it. I make enough to last a month.
Finally I like to add that in THIS form (as broth), the Vitamins
and fiber are a LOT easier for the body to absorb.
You also missed one other important point- that ALL those
veggies a ALKALINE foods and will neutralize an acid-food
diet (which most of us eat). This "green" soup is excellent
if you have any problems with your digestion.
Joe from Ottawa
(will be following your columns)
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Veggie diet & exercise
Bob Nichols
Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 01:42 PMI too strive to keep my carbs low, however, I also exercise vigorously several times a week and I don' need to lose wt.
I need to maintain my wt, at 180 pounds (I'm 6'1" tall).
How do I go veggie and still maintain my phy exercise?
Thanks, Bob
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Bob
Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 07:12 PMI am getting my protein, so no problem there and maybe I can continue with my current diet.
I have been off medication for about 18 months and my last three A1c's have been; 6.1, 6.0 and 6.5, so all is well in that department.
However I am going to try more veggies and keep up my exercise routine.
I have learned to believe "it can be done"
Bob
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Veggies
father bill
Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 06:09 PMAm taking COUMADIN. Vegies contain vitamin "K" which works against Coumadin. Therefor I eat a minimum of vegies.re: Veggies
David Mendosa
Sunday, March 02, 2008 at 07:01 PMDear Father Bill,
It is certainly true that that SOME vegetables contain high amounts of Vitamin K that are difficult use use with coumadin. I know that well because my wife had to take it for several years before she died.
But not all veggies. Per drugs.com, "Large amounts of vitamin K are found in foods such as liver, broccoli, brussels sprouts, spinach, Swiss chard, coriander, collards, cabbage, and other green leafy vegetables. Do not change the amount of these foods in your diet without first talking to your doctor."
That doesn't mean you can't eat them. What it means is that you have to keep your INR levels steady. That means you can actually have these vegetables every day. Which means further that you need to have your levels tested regularly. The best way, of course, is to get one of the new home tests. That way you can adjust your coumadin levels to your diet.
Best regards,
David
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Good Veggies
Anonymous
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 at 10:31 AMDavid,
Bravo on this article. Since I was diagnosed as diabetic (about 3 yrs ago), I have been following a basic low GI/GL diet (high in the veggies you mention) and have gotten my diabetes and weight under control (TSH: from >8 to 6.0, weight: from >250 lb to 175 lb).
However, a few words of caution. As you mentioned to Father Bill below, you need to be careful and understand your own bodies needs and requirements and adjust accordingly. What works for someone else may not work for you. What this means is we all need to be pro-active with our own care and determine what works for us as an individual (as you well know).
For example: along with my diabetes I am also hypo-thyroid and have problems w/ oxalate kidney stones so Kale is an absolute no-no for me (acts counter to the thyroid meds I take and is high in oxalates). Some other common foods that act in this same way (anti-thyroid and/or high oxalate) are most of the Cruciferous vegetables (Broccoli, Cauliflower, etc), most dark leafy greens (such as collard greens, spinach, etc), and strawberries (to name a few).
If you were to ask me if I avoid these veggies -- absolutely not --. But I do monitor the amount and combinations I eat (like avoiding eating three high oxalate foods in the same meal, or on the same day). I often joke that if I avoided all the foods that were problematic for me, then I would have to stop eatting and take a giant vitamin pill (oh my - shades of soylent green
).
Keep up the good work,
RichardLN2re: re: Good Veggies
Richard
Wednesday, March 05, 2008 at 12:19 PMDavid,
It's like when my father (who was diabetic as well) was talking with a neighbor and stated: "It's Hell getting old", to which the neighbor replied: "No, but it is **** inconvenient"
. In the process of making sure I had some facts correct for my original post I just discovered that some of the cholestorol meds i'm taking may act counter to my thyroid meds and shouldn't be taken within 5 hours of each other. Which may mean I need to shuffle (once again) which order I am taking my current pharmacy of drugs. One more item to add to my (LONG) list of items to discuss w/ my Endoc. at my next appt. Oh Well...
Peace,
RichardLN2
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carobsweet
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Esther Bartin
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 at 02:36 PM -
Green Vegetables are Great Tasting, Too.
Cynthia
Saturday, January 03, 2009 at 10:18 PMMost of my recipes now begin with ...."saute and onion in a bit of olive oil". It is amazing how much flavor a bit of onion can add to green vegetables. Try growing a bit of green where you live. Today was fresh kale from my garden...with the sauteed onion. It only takes a little bit of olive oil to add flavor. I also add just a pinch of salt to the onions as they cook. Here's to your success! Thanks for the great tips....
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You might want to try using a pressure cooker to cook them, with the meat, partially cooked going in.... Keeps the flavor in and maintains the fiberousity....







Hi David:
Great article! I just checked my WH Foods Book Total Nutrient Richness Chart and Crimini Mushrooms are listed as 47 and tomatoes are listed as 34.
The Gl Index of Sweet Potatoes is 61 Medium and I have often read that they has been classified as an 'anti-diabetic' food because of some recent studies in which they were shown to help stabilize blood sugar levels and lowered insulin resistance. Some of its blood sugar regulatory properties may come from come from the fact that sweet potatoes are rich in carotenoids, which may be inversely associated with insulin resistance and high blood sugar levels. With all the Vitamin A it contains , don't you think they might be a good choice once in a while?
verdungal