Laurie, and other participants!
I read about your nausea. What I have (had) is insuling resistance-My blood sugar was too high - 121. Since taking Byetta and losing weight it is now 75. BUT, I started in June taking only 5mg in the morning. Later the Dr. said I should be taking 5mg before breakfast and before dinner. I had a lot of nausea, vomiting etc on that dose. Then it was time for 10 in the morning and at night. The nausea, vomiting was bad and I often had to sleep it off. Because my blood sugar went down the dr. wanted me to continue the same regime but I told him it made life difficult. So he said to take just 5 in the morning-I am still nauseaous a good bit of the day. I may try the altoids , ginger snaps, and more carbs as they were mentioned in other messages. Oh and I do love the weight loss. Do you take the shot in the stomach or leg or hip. I may change from the stomach as 1 person suggested it might help. Thanks all for your comment.
Thanks for your article. I think I can remember to eat and eat like a lizard if it means I'll lose weight. When I look at myself in the mirror I don't even recognise myself!
I'd like to try the Ginger route before I get into drugs. However I'm intimately aquainted with two of those durgs. Reglan and Promethazine RULE THE UNIVERSE. I get migraines and get instantly nauseated. These two drugs are the only things that work for me on that one. The alternative is barfing until you have the dry heaves, & sleeping in the bathroom floor. I have four dogs and one cat who follow me everywhere. Trust me it's not comfortable in the bathroom with them there too. I wake up with bruises all over that look just like paw prints. Seriously.
For anyone who wants to go on these I reccomend suppositories. Those are the greatest for the simple reason that they come on board almost instantly. So if it get's really bad you can rid yourself of that nausea really fast. The method of application is kind of a nightmare but eventually you become an expert and can do it before you can say caddalidic converter.
Thanks again I hope my nausea trick helps! Blythe
Dear Blythe,
I agree that using ginger to control your nausea before taking any more drugs is the way to go. Remember that you can get ginger in a lot of forms. Some of them, like, for example, most ginger ales, probably don't have enough ginger in them to do any good. Making your own ginger drink is probably the best way to go.
David
Hi David,
How do you make your own ginger drink? Is there a recipe? Also what about gingersnaps? Another thing to everyone, how many of you guys experienced bad nausea on Byetta? I'm taking my first shot tommorow. Also how about if you just ate, can you inject right after you're done?
Thanks you guys, it is great being a member of such a lovely group of people. I don't feel like such an alien anymore! Blythe
You can slice some ginger root as thin as a dime, about 6 or 8 pieces. boil that in water for about 10 minutes. Strain into a cup, and if you want, add a teabag for a minute. Then your Stevia, Agave, or Splenda and you're ready to rock with a delicious tea that makes you feel a whole lot better.
And carry those altoid ginger mints.
Dear Blythe,
No, I haven't heard that those drugs are counter-indicated for Byetta. You need to ask her, "Why?"
Still, I don't think that is generally the best idea to use a drug to counter the effects of another drug. I would also first prefer to use ginger. I don't know which form of ginger, but I would select a pretty concentrated form. In other words, I would avoid most of the ginger ales, which have very little ginger in them.
Best regards,
David
Dear Blythe,
I'm sorry, but I can't answer your question because I never got enough nausea myself to warrant drinking any ginger ale. All I can say is that I remember one brand of particularly strong ginger ale that I bought at
Whole Foods for my wife. But I can't recall the name now. You might do as I did for her and buy a bottle or two of all of the brands.
Best regards,
David
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at another site several people recommended giving the Byetta injection in the thigh instead of stomach. I tried it this morning and indeed my nausea was greatly reduced--really. The thigh! I also only ate an apple--about 45 minutes after the injection. I had coffee/cream about 40 minutes prior to the injection. I had 1 little cookie (ginger snap, of course) about an hour after that with coffee/cream. NO problem.
Had lite lunch (whole grain carb and cheddar cheese). Not much food--the point, right? and virtually no nausea. Hope it works tomorrow a.m.
cheers
p.s. I am only doing a.m. because the nausea was sooo awful. Tomorrow I will do p.m. Yah I know this is not the protocol.
I have a problem that has never been addressed. I do not get nausea when I take a shot before breakfast. If I eat dinner (like last night) around 5:30pm take a shot before and then go to bed around 9 - six hours later dfepending on what I eat I wake up having to vomit and have loose bowel movements. I went off Byetta due to this problem, it is not all the time, could it be because I have eaten a fatty food or bread? What is the answer to combat this problem?
Yes, indeed the problem could be in what you eat. One solution would be to stop taking the evening shot for a few months until your body adjusts better to the Byetta. Other solutions are the anti-nausea ideas in this article. You might want to discuss both strategies with your doctor before deciding.
Best regards,
David
Has anyone tried or been prescribed medical marijuana for the nausea? I'm finding that I am having nausea on a regular basis no matter if I eat one minute or one hour after the injection. I only eat small amounts of food, usually half of what I would consider a normal portion and still feel the nausea. My friend has medical marijuana for her chemo treatments that caused her nausea, but I know that also increases appetite which is not what most of us want. I guess it's a balancing act. For now, I've been taking pepto bismal and I've been keeping them in business lately!
Dear Deb,
That is an excellent idea! Medical marijuana is indeed very successful in controlling the nausea that people on chemo have as well as from othter causes.
I don't know how to get legal marijuana. But I used a lot of it in the 70s and 80s not for nausea but recreationally.
Pot does have a well-deserved reputation of causing the muchies, because it hightens sensations. My experience, however, was that it was the first drug that helped me to lose a lot of weight (which I regained when I stopped using it and failed to get it all off until I used Byetta).
It was one of the first times that I was high that I came to the realization that I did not want to be fat and that I didn't have to be fat. From then on I got down to a normal weight.
I think that it was the pot that also got me to exercise more and longer. I still remember swimming for hours along the coast of the Pacific Ocean, something that I never have been able to do for nearly as long before or since using marijuana.
My experience is not typical, I don't think, because I have never heard of anyone else saying how much that using marijuana helped them. But it came at a great cost in lack of clarity, and I am glad now to be off of all drugs, whether recreational or prescription.
I share my experience because of your fears that using medical pot, assuming that you are able to get a prescription for it, will necessarily lead to weight gain. It may actually help you to lose weight particularly in concert with Byetta.
Best regards,
David
I have beent aking Byetta Since Nov. 2008 and had no side effects until the end of March, when the nausea and vomiting began. This was also about the time I started keeping my pens refridgerated. Once they were opened, I had been carrying them in my purse before that. A friend told me that when she quit refridgerating her meds, the nausea ended. Has anyone else had this result?
I started out fine with Byetta, but over the months the nausea has increased. I think I know what the problem may be: I started working out at about the same time. The workouts aren't the probem, per se, but I don't have time to get to the gym until 8 pm. I take my Byetta shot at around 7 pm, when I get home from work, then work out, then eat very late at night. I suspect my dinner from the night before is still lingering in my stomach when I take my morning Byetta shot.
However, my night-time Byetta shot makes me nauseated too. There have been evenings when I'm on the treadmill and my mouth starts to water like it does just before I vomit. It's never extreme, just annoying.
More than anything else, I worry what Byetta is doing to my liver, along with the other drugs I take. I would just like to exercise my way out of diabetes, if possible.
One of the benefits is that byetta controls appetite that is lost before diabetes even arrives, back in the stages of "metabolic disorder", the common precursor disease to type II diabetes.
Most people had to eat until stuffed to sense fullness. Now, with byetta, the signals are back, and the sensation of fullness returns.
It's not magic. People treat most diabetics as though they are so bad, and would choose to be fat. Well, got news for you, if you never could figure it out on your own, you don't know jack about what it is to be diabetic or fat, and I could care less if you have an MD behind your name with all those extra years of specialization. Most of you know the books, but get to out of sorts when you prescribe those sulfyonyureas too soon, begin to burn out your patients pancreas, and could ease off so much of their pain, suffering, disease and their compliance if you would just put them on byetta. I had to put my foot down and insist. The endo at the Cleveland Clinic tried every which way to squeeze out of it and I wouldn't let go until I ended up with it.
Doctors, you should have to take a course from me, because I would show you just how little you know and how damn much you take for granted.
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