For years I have complained about the lack of accuracy of other meters. All the other meters also make it too difficult to tag our results to correspond with our meals, and most other meters still requ...
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This sounds wonderful
Bernard Farrell
Thursday, April 10, 2008 at 10:08 PMre: This sounds wonderful
David Mendosa
Thursday, April 10, 2008 at 10:14 PMDear Bernard,
I would love to see your review of the Jazz.
The strips are probably similar to those of the KeyNote. But because of the notch in the Jazz strips, they are a bit different.
Best regards,
David
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RE: The Ultimate Meter
Scott Strumello
Friday, April 11, 2008 at 07:58 AMYou indicate that the FDA approved the WaveSense Jazz in September, and that meter has one problem: it's not for sale yet. Actually, that's not really the main problem (if you can believe it) -- the biggest issue the company is facing is the archaic system that gets their test strips on the fomularies of insurance companies which pay for 85% of all testing supplies in the U.S. today; a mix of third-party PBMs (pharmacy benefits managers), insurers themselves who manage their own formularies, federal government agencies (like Medicare and Medicaid) and the state agencies who manage Medicaid, are all issues startups face before their products are widely adopted. The good news is that the company is working through these issues, but it slows acceptance considerably, which is tough for a company that hasn't made any money yet!
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AgaMatrix Meter
Phil
Friday, April 11, 2008 at 10:51 AMHi Daivd,
Is AgaMatrix taking orders? I'd like to get one of the first ones when they become available.
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David Mendosa
Monday, April 14, 2008 at 12:16 PMWhile AgaMatrix may not be taking orders for the WaveSense Jazz, Advanced Diabetes Supply is taking advanced orders, according to a message that President Tim Cady just sent me:
"f you get inquiries about the Jazz, we can take orders so that when it is available, we can help people ASAP.
"You can give them my e-mail [tbcady@earthlink.net], website (northcoastmed.com) or our phone # 1-800-730-9887.
"Maybe they’ll want another Wavesense product in the meantime and we can upgrade them when the Jazz becomes available."
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meter
Rob
Friday, April 11, 2008 at 01:51 PMIf you are interested I think I can make the case that even the cheapest commonly available meters are accurate enough, when used intellligently. And I also think that I can make the case that entering BGs along with salient information in a small notebook is inherently more useful than any of the programs now available. I realize that this is kind of a quirky way of looking at all of this. By the way, I eat between one and four meals a day and really like that flexibility. And I maintain between 80-100, with few deviations outside that.
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WaveSense Jazz meter
Alan R. Craig
Friday, April 11, 2008 at 11:17 PMDoes the company need people to test the prototype of the meter before it comes to market?
I would be willing to sign up to test one for them. I hope the test strips are not like the ones that
the Abbot (Freestyle Freedom etc.) I much prefer being able to tell when I have enough for a
sample.
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Accuracy--10% of what?
Tom
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 09:18 PMYou wrote: "When it's available, the Jazz will again raise the bar on accuracy. Until now, the WaveSense KeyNote was the most accurate meter with 85 percent of test results within 10 percent -- far and away better than any other meter. Now, for the Jazz, Stuart tells me that 91 percent of the results are within 10 percent." Within 10% of what? Within 10% of a medical lab measure? Within 10% of Jazz meter measurements of the same sample? Are you talking accuracy or precision? Also, who is testing these meters? Are these tests published someplace, or are we supposed to take these representations on faith? I have spent a few hundred dollars on simultaneous lab draws to estimate the accuracy of my meters. I now have a meter that I believe is pretty accurate I saw that the Freestyle Flash tested best a couple of years ago, but the article describing the test regime and results wasn't accessible online (abstract only). I have been comparing my own self-tested meter to a Flash and find that they are pretty close (n=13, Flash - my meter = +2.08 average). I would love it if proper scientific testing of these meters was done and published.
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David Mendosa
Thursday, May 01, 2008 at 09:21 PMTom,
Please see the article that I just posted. It might answer your questions. It's at:
http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/26726/blood-glucose-level
David
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Zero Click Software
Laurie
Monday, May 12, 2008 at 11:21 AMNow that I have the Jazz Meter, I can't fnd the software for the interface. Any suggestions? I e mailed the company and they said to go to their website, but all that did was refer me to stores that don't carry it.
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David Mendosa
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 05:15 PMDear Laurie,
I referred your question to the company, AgaMatrix, that makes the Jazz meter. Here is the reply that I just received from the senior manager for marketing:
Wondering who has a Jazz meter since it's not for sale yet? Our new version of Zero-Click will support Jazz, but won't be available until the fall.
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Laurie
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 08:25 PMSo sorry - mine is a wavesense keynote meter. Does Zero Click support that one? I apologize for the confusion.
Laurie
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David Mendosa
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:10 PMDear Laurie,
Yes. I have used that software with the Keynote as I wrote at http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/9189/accuracy/
David
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David
Thank you for the review of this meter. I already love the WaveSense KeyNote and was looking forward to using it full-time once I have the new Dexcom CGM.
Now I'll be eagerly waiting to get a Jazz.
It looks like the strips are the same as for the KeyNote. The MAGE feature sounds excellent and I like the USB interface. I wonder if AgaMatrix will publish the programming interface to their meters. Now that would also be a radical improvement.
I'll see if I can get one to check out from my AgaMatrix contact.
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