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Medical Journalist Living with Diabetes and Author of Fitness and Photography for Fun, www.mendosa.com/fitnessblog

After earning a B.A. with honors from the University of California,...

David Mendosa

Sunday, September 13, 2009
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Just changing when you eat can has a big effect on how much you weigh. At least if you are a mouse. A new study is the first causal evidence connecting meal timing and increased weight gain. The journal Obesity on September 3 published "Circadian Timing of Food Intake Contributes to Weight Gain" onl...
  1. eating late
    JG
    Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 06:42 PM

    Do you have any suggestions for people like me-

    who get hunger pangs at night and are not very

    strong willed to resist. What' s relatively safe to

    have, some  lettuce, anise, cheese, cucumber,

    watermelon?  It seems I need a bite of something

    but what?

                               thanks,

                                JG

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    re: eating late
    David Mendosa
    Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 10:55 PM

    Dear JG,

     

    Two suggestions. First, to eat a bigger dinner, so you won't get hungry later.

     

    Second, to eat a very low-carb diet. With you you won't have hunger pains even when you eat very little. I follow both strategies and know they work.

     

    Best regards,

     

    David

     

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  2. High IU Supplements?
    Jennifer
    Sunday, September 13, 2009 at 06:44 PM

    And then there's this study that says it doesn't matter when you eat.

     

    http://www.ohsu.edu/ohsuedu/landingpages/latenighteating.cfm

     

    "We've all been told at one point in our lives that we should avoid eating meals late at night as it will lead to weight gain. However, our research in rhesus monkeys, which are considered an excellent model for studying primate (man and monkey) obesity issues, showed that eating at night is no more likely to promote weight gain than eating during the day."

     

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    re: High IU Supplements?
    JG
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 01:49 PM

    Maybe it's true as far as weight gain goes......BUT

    eating late plays havoc with your blood glucose during

    the whole night and may even cause the "dawn" phenomenon.

    This is  important since your night BGs will have a

    big impact  on your A1C. Don't forget the hours involved

    here- about  1/3 of the 24 of the day.

                                                  JG 

     

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    Untitled Comment
    Jennifer
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 01:56 PM

    I don't understand how merely eating late inherently "plays havoc with your blood glucose levels".

     

    What if I eat low or no carb foods?  Do you have any studies to cite that confirms what you say?

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    re: Untitled Comment
    JG
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 06:25 PM

    My original request to David was for his suggestion on what

    we could possibly eat at night that would NOT affect our

    BGs for the whole night and still provide a "sense" of being

    satisfied and make those hunger pangs go away. Alas -he only

    suggested a bigger low-carb dinner!

    If you have such suggestion on that, I would like to hear eat(it)

    (provided it's not fish or meat).But it's been my experience that

    eating anything more than a single bite (ie. low carb AND light)

    will bring your middle-of-the-night BGs  up( yes I have measured those) . Remember, for 8 hours after eating those things you are

    getting absolutely NO exercise (except breathing), and in the

    morning you will not like your BG level.

                                 Thanks

                                  JG

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    re: re: High IU Supplements?
    Leaking Ink
    Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 06:53 PM

    I struggle with the dawn phenomenon in which my fasting blood sugars are always

    much higher in the morning.  I found that if I eat a can of Amy's Organic

    Lentil and Vegetable Soup for dinner, my fasting blood sugar will be under 100

    (or just very slightly over 100) the next morning.  Haven't the foggiest idea why

    or how.  I just know it to be true for me.  perhaps the fiber in the lentils?  Also

    lentils are less inflammatory than other beans/legumes.

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    re: High morning BGs
    JG
    Monday, October 05, 2009 at 07:35 PM

    Glad you found something that helps-

    Your problem might be WHAT you eat at dinner AND later, especially if you eat quite late.  You should compare your BG right before going to bed, with the morning one. You may find the two to be similar (not that far apart).

    If so, then you have to control what you eat and when you eat dinner so that those BGs dont get out of wack- good luck.

                                            JG

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    re: High IU Supplements?
    frankenduf
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 05:22 PM

    there are 3 issues here: 1- we aint monkeys

    2- we aint monkeys that have had our ovaries taken out

    3- we snack at nite- i presume this to be in addition to daytime feeding, whereas it's not clear that the monkeys were not eating a baseline amount regardless of time

    i think the common sense problem is that we tend to snack at nite, after we've already eaten our day meals, which leads to weight gain- the other problem is that we are more insulin resistant at nite (from circadian rhythm), so it's not an optimal time to snack- my opinion is that the largest meal of the day should be lunch, with not alot of CHO at nite

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  3. Untitled Comment
    nonegiven
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 at 07:54 PM

    Isn't it more likely you gain from eating at night because you aren't getting enough sleep?  Didn't they already show that improving sleep helps with weight loss?

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    re: Untitled Comment
    JG
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009 at 05:18 PM

    A good night sleep goes a long way to maintaining good health

    overall- maybe even maintaining a healthy weight. But I think

    when it comes to diabetes we have to study people's behavior,

    rather than "related" species. I have never seen an obese monkey- they tend to be a bit more active than most of us humans.

                                      JG

     

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  4. When to eat
    Anonymous
    Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 08:45 AM

    I work 12 hour shifts from 7 PM to 7 AM.  What might studies and the general body of knowledge suggest is the best time for me to eat and also to take my Lantus Insulin?

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  5. Changing when you eat?
    lovingcritters
    Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 07:04 PM

    I'm confused now for sure.I was taught by dietitians that you should always have a small snack before bedtime. Whom can you believe anymore? I'm finding that more and more I learned at those classes just simply aren't good for you. Whom do I believe anyway?

    CSP

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