Monday, June 04, 2012

Old Ideas and the ADA

By Gretchen Becker, Health Guide Wednesday, January 02, 2008
"Just as important as having ideas is getting rid of them."   So said the late Francis Crick, who along with James Watson worked out the basic structure of DNA in the early 1950s. His remark was quoted in a 1978 New Yorker article on the history of DNA (sometimes I get a tad behind ...
Setting New Resolutions to Help Diabetes
Anonymous
Anonymous
1/ 2/08 3:45pm
Changing one's mind is probably the most useful asset we humans own. the Edge web site has 163 essays by people who... changed their mind. This is one of my favourites: http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_16.html#bharucha --buck
Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
1/ 5/08 11:17am
Thanks, Buck. Good essay.
Anonymous
Virginia Page
1/ 3/08 12:02pm
Gretchen's essay is excellent--about old thoughts continuing their grip on established institutions, especially the ADA. I have similar criticisms of the American Cancer Society. Oh well, I could add to the list the Pentagon, State Department, Dept. of Justice and...and...and... Either we revise our thinking about important issues with reality-based insights, or we stay curled up in squalid intellectual fetal positions.
Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
1/ 5/08 11:19am
I agree, Virginia. I'd add more but I've got to go and curl up in a fetal position <G>.
Anonymous
Nicky
1/ 3/08 5:53pm
And when the ADA do change their minds - or at least get all of their minds on the same page, the range of opinions on the ADA site is bewildering, once you get past the vox pop stuff - then we'll have a cascade of support for low carb from all the other diabetic associations across the globe - and I'll actually start paying subs to Diabetes UK Big Smile
Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
1/ 5/08 11:23am

I hope the other organizations do consider LC diets. BTW, I was interested that when the woman in the BBC sitcom "Waiting for God" got type 2 diabetes, she had to listen to a lecture from a dietician telling her not to eat bananas because they have too many carbs.

 

But of course, it's an old sitcom. 

1/ 4/08 11:42am
On the money article, Gretchen.  Whenever I see an endorsement of anything by the ADA or a recommendation by the ADA I run in the opposite direction.  I am sure there are many many like me.
Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
1/ 5/08 11:25am

Yes, Oh BeardedOne. It's very sad, because the ADA could help so many people but they seem to be doing the opposite.

 

I recently got a mailing from them in which they warned people not to try LC diets on their own because their BG levels might go down. 

Anonymous
BeardedOne
1/ 5/08 12:30pm

Yes, I'm afraid Big Pharma has a hold of them & will not let go.  Money speaks & the people suffer.  I am so very thankful for folks like you, Mendosa, Bernstein, et al.

Stand for the truth & run from the lies.

 

 

Anonymous
whimsy2
1/ 9/08 12:00am

You actually got a letter from the ADA warning people against a low carb diet because it might make peoples' BGs go down??? Unbelievable!  Isn't that supposed to be the goal of good diabetic control? 

 

Conversely, if you don't get your BGs down to non-diabetic levels you can get blind, need kidney transplants, get heart disease,  have amputations, etc. etc. 

 

And the ADA is supposed to be SUPPORTING diabetics?

 

Geez!

Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
1/ 9/08 10:12am

Whimsy, it wasn't a letter but an ad urging me to join the ADA. Then it had a list of "myths" about diabetes, like telling people it's OK to eat sugar because it's no worse than starch.

 

One of the myths was "It's easy to go on an Atkins-type diet." They said it's dangerous without medical supervision because your BGs might plummet and you'd go low. Of course if you're injecting tons of insulin on the theory that you're eating tons of carbs, this is true. 

 

But the impression one got was that LC diets are dangerous. 

Anonymous
Michael Hurney
4/21/08 11:06pm

I've been a diabetic for over 50 years and it hurts and angers me when the ADA pushes carbs and restricts fats. Almost all of the people I see in my practice think that fat makes them fat including most diabetes health educators. Most of the diabetics are always trying to cut back on fat and still drinking regular sodas, sport drinks, and orange juice. Also, no one seems to be looking at how diabetics usually metabilize B vitamins poorly and how high carbs soothe feelings of depression, loneliness, and anger. Mike Hurney, LCSW-C

Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
4/22/08 9:49am

It's sad, isn't it.

Anonymous
slo
8/16/09 9:18pm

Is there no way to hold them responsible for the human and monetary costs their guidelines have wrought?  Where are the lawyers who took on big tobacco?    If this doesn't scream "class action," I don't know what does.

Gretchen Becker, Health Guide
8/17/09 8:14am

First you would have to prove that the ADA guidelines have caused harm, and this would be very difficult. They've spent the past 50 or so years trying to prove that cholesterol causes heart disease, and there's still no agreement about that.

 

Diets are more difficult to quantify than tobacco use, unfortunately. And they could claim, with some justification, that they were following accepted guidelines for preventing heart disease.

Anonymous
T2inTN
12/ 8/09 7:09am

I was newly diagnosed Type2 4/08.  My Internal Med Dr. handed me a meter and said test twice a day and come back in a month.  No info on diabetes or on what to eat.  I had to go out and buy books and go on the ADA site.  Not good patient care when you are getting hit with such a diagnosis.  Oh, and he said my numbers have been borderline for a couple of years. He never told me.  So I went to an endocrinologist and said I read Berstein's book and wanted to do a low carb diet.  Both the endo and the dietitician said I needed more carbs, low carb was dangerous.  Eat oatmeal, but no orange juice; margarine, but no butter.  I have recently started a low carb diet and my bg has come down significantly.  A1c from 6.8 to 6.0 in three months.  Something should be able to be done so the patients are given the facts and information to try another approach.  Might save some lives. SR

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By Gretchen Becker, Health Guide— Last Modified: 06/03/12, First Published: 01/02/08