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The Golden Age

by  Gretchen Becker
Monday, January 28, 2008
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Several weeks ago, I picked up one of those health magazines they give away free at a lot of food coops. Let's face it, I'll pick up any reading matter if it's free, and this stuff always is, because the driving force behind the magazines is to get you to buy more herbs and supplem...

 

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  1. Untitled Comment
    matingara
    Monday, January 28, 2008 at 07:56 PM

    Gretchen,  this is an interesting set of observations.  I grew up in Boston but i barely remember the 50's.  i do vividly remember the 60's though!

     

    our diet was probably unusual.  My mother was Australian and my Dad was from Boston.  I lived in Australia for two years as an infant.  And i travelled to Australia when i was 6 years old and when i was 14.  we migrated to Australia when i was 16 (1970).

     

    My memories of what we ate in the 60's is fairly intact.  Dinners were pretty eclectic.  My favorite Summer dinner was globe artichokes.  we would pull each of the leaves off and dip them in vinaigrette.  We kids would have gladly subsisted on the artichokes alone.  But our Mother insisted we eat our steak before we were allowed to start on the artichokes!  The same story for corn on the cob.

     

    Salads were served with almost every meal.  The main basis was iceberg lettuce, carrots and celery.  My mother gradually added in more exotic ingredients such as capsicum and cucumber.  Whenever we ate out I would frantically search for a "Chef's Salad" on the menu and I would have Thousand Island dressing always when eating out.  I gradually moved on to Caesar salad which was always made at the table with great fanfare.

     

    In the 60's we did have pasta in our house.  Every week.  Spaghetti with bolognaise sauce (and parmesan cheese and salad).  We also ate my mother's version of "Beef Curry" and other casseroles.

     

    Dessert was always ice cream, or Jell-o or Sara Lee chocolate cake.

     

    Breakfast was either a piece of fruit or if we were lucky Dunkin' Donuts or Sara Lee Coffee cake.

     

    Lunch was in the school cafeteria.  My favorite choices were hamburgers or spaghetti bolognaise.  my lunches always had a side salad.  I would almost always have an ice cream sandwich or an H-Bar.

     

    I didn't drink Coke because i didn't like it.  I would always have ginger ale or sprite.

     

    Anyway, that is what I remember of the 60's.

     

    So, I always thought I was lucky to have had a pretty good diet growing up.  We would ski every weekend and sail and swim all Summer long.  So i had tons of exercise.  and i was slim - but strong.

     

    As i got older i started to put on a bit of weight and i adopted a low fat, high carb diet and got slim again.  I followed that diet for 30 years! 

     

    So, the year is 2007 and i start getting thirsty and losing weight round about April.  And I get diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes!

     

    I believe that I have murdered my pancreas with a high carb diet!  Anyway, I have switched to a low carb diet now.  I take a small dose of gliclazide (extended release).  Exercise daily.  My A1C has gone down from 16.2% at diagnosis (June) to 5.9% (December).

     

    The thing that switched me to the low carb idea was YOUR BOOK (it is unknown in the Australian medical community - so I bought it on Amazon).  You see I have always had low cholesterol and horrible triglycerides.  I read your chapter when you had the extra strips and did one day low fat and the next day high fat.  Now even my triglycerides are normal.

     

    So, yeah, thanks for that.  I hope my diet information is of some use!

     

     -- Joel.

     


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    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 09:18 AM

    Joel, very interesting to read what other people ate 40 or 50 years ago. I think by the 1960s, diets were more eclectic than in the conservative 1950s.

     

    Don't blame yourself for getting diabetes. It's always possible that your genetic predisposition was such that you would have gotten it no matter what you ate, and you did have 30 years of slimness without diabetes.

     

     


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    a Blessing in Disguise!
    matingara
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 12:14 AM

    Gretchen, i am not blaming myself one bit!  in fact, i am happy that this has happened to me.  i have been slightly "off color" for the last couple of years.  thrice i have been attacked by pancreatitis.  i have had my gall bladder removed.  even with these things i was really never 100%.

     

    my Dad died pretty young (age 61).  he had heart problems and kidney problems.  i think he died of toxicity really.  since i was diagnosed and have read your book and Dr. Bernstein's book i have come to the conclusion that he might have been suffering from uncontrollable (and high) Blood Sugars.  i suspect that the medical community of the 70's never thought to look for this.

     

    anyway, i have found out how my body works now.  i have found out that carbohydrates are my particular enemy.  i am exercising almost every day.  i am feeling 110%!  i have even discovered that a couple of glasses of wine help my BGL's.  I had cut out alcohol completely - thinking it to be an antagonist.

     

    so, i am thankful for my GP who is open minded and i am glad that i have found the online community which led me to your book.  if i had followed only the advice of my CDE i reckon that i would be lucky to have gotten my A1C below 10.

     

     -- Joel.

     


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    re: a Blessing in Disguise!
    Gretchen Becker
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 09:55 AM

    I feel the same way -- most of the time.

     

    Is there any way you can get your father's medical records? Explain that you want to get a family medical history to help your other relatives.

     

    I have a friend who discovered after her father's death at 103 that he had cholesterol levels in the 300s. Knowing this meant she's not worried about her own high levels as her father wasn't exactly cut down in the prime of life.

     

    If you knew for sure that your father had high BG levels, then there's a good chance that with your good control you'll reduce the risks you inherited from him. 


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  2. 50 year ago food?
    Sande
    Monday, January 28, 2008 at 08:20 PM
    Oh Plauseeeeee! Fifty years ago we ate exactly what you described and the author of the book you purchased seems to have indeed got his decades mixed up! He must of been referring to his ancestors who ground their own wheat and made their own whole grain breads because, 50 years ago I grew up on Wonder Bread and Little Miss Sunbeam was on the other bread~~both of them white breads. Good job on the article!!!~Sande
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    re: 50 year ago food?
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 09:20 AM
    Thanks, Sande.
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    Vicki abbott
    Monday, January 28, 2008 at 11:30 PM

    Well...in the home I grew up in,  in the '50s, the bread was always rye. But I desperately WISHED for white bread. Little did I know! 

     

    My mother wasn't the greatest cook and didn't really like to cook...she had a repetoire of about 6 recipes. We always had roast chicken on Friday nights...I remember brisket. I don't remember much else, but it definitely didn't include any pasta -- that was just too, too exotic.  I don't remember veggies either, but I do remember the iceberg lettuce salad with thousand island dressing (Best Foods mayo mixed with chili sauce). And always a dessert, usually from the bakery.


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    re: Untitled Comment
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 09:23 AM

    Hi Vicki,

     

    Sorry you missed all that delicious white bread <G>. I took a year off from college and spent it studying German at the University of Freiburg. I took supper with my landlady's family. She had a repertoire of 4 different dishes. Two were canned ravioli and boiled eggs with whole-grain (Vollkorn) bread. I don't recall the other two. So your mother was one step ahead of her <G>.


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  4. The Golden Age
    BeardedOne
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM

    Yes Gretchen, I too can remember well 50 years ago & then some.  I also was raised as you were with the same foods without worry or care for what that deranged author was alluding to.  What a joke.  We were thankful for whole milk, butter, potatoes, peanut butter, etc.

     

    In fact there were times when bread & butter was our staple which Mom made because money was hard to come by.  I can even remember one time she made potato chips just to give us something besides the daily staples of meat, vegetable & bread.  What a treat!

     

    Regards to ya,


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    re: The Golden Age
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 04:00 PM
    I guess we have to remember that for some people, eating meat once a day would be a big luxury. I think it was Don Quixote who said his neighbor was a "rich man" because he ate meat once a week.
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  5. 50 years ago--HUH?
    carole Photopoulos Paulis
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM
    The 50's was also the time of the "test kitchen" recipes using pkgd/processed products to create some bland conglomerations. My mum was not a good cook & used these abominations regularly. We had lost of fatty (ie cheap) meat & potatoes & a few canned veggies with butter plopped on top. One thing tho is that no one cared for sweets so we rarely had desserts altho my mum sometimes served pudding,custard or ice cream on Sundays. We also did have fruit in the house most of the time & I was allowed to stop at the fruit stand & get whatever I wanted & put it on the bill. I loved plums & once ate so many I got hives. Unlike our neighbors we also had pasta sometimes & also stew & goulash. I hated them all. cappie
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    re: 50 years ago--HUH?
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 04:04 PM
    The good thing about having a mother who is a terrible cook is that it inspires one to learn to do better.
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  6. Oh what you missed being a child of the 60's!
    Vicki M
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM

    I am a tad bit younger than some folks online here, but at least you all got red meat and other stuff. I am a product of the "If Betty Crocker didn't make a mix for it, it's not happening here" generation! I didn't know what the hamburger looked like BEFORE it was swimming in powdered cheese, butter and milk. Never had real macaroni and cheese only the box stuff. My mom was not a cook. She managed a restaurant so our big meals were done at the store she worked at. I knew what industrial food was LONG before I went to school lol. One of the few things my mother made, which you couldn't pay me to eat, was a macaroni salad that had cooked elbow macaroni, tomatoe juice and sugar. I couldn't stand the stuff. She also made cole slaw dressing that was mixed with so much sugar it was not disolved when we ate it. A cook my mother was not. My dad on the other hand, made a heck of a spaghetti sauce!


    My grandmother was a wonderful cook and I spent summers with her.  She was old West Virginia country where a meal wasn't a meal unless the table was full of  food. Her homemade apple  butter was at EVERY meal and she made THE BEST bread pudding (from the heels of the wonder bread bag)  So I guess I had the best (worst) from both worlds!


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    re: Oh what you missed being a child of the 60's!
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 04:07 PM
    I don't think I would have eaten that red macaroni either <G>.
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  7. Fifties food
    farm girl
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 03:29 PM

    I grew up on small New England farm for our own use in the fifties in a community of the same. Our family and those who I knew mostly ate food raised/grown at home. Primarily beef, chicken, veggies, berries, plus milk, eggs and butter.

     

    For dinner, we ate meat or chicken, potatoes and lots of veggies - fresh in summer and frozen or canned in winter. And always a huge stack of bread (usually the fluffy store bought kind) on the table or sometimes hot biscuits. Everything, including steak, was slathered in loads of butter. Pasta - yes, made from scratch mac'n'cheese, spagh & meatballs or am chopsuey covered in melted cheese. Casseroles now and then. Soups/stews often were a meal - not a prelude - eaten with tons of bread/biscuits and butter or sometimes with dumplings. Saturday was always - like ALWAYS - baked beans, hotdogs and brown bread.

     

    Lunch was one or more sandwiches of slices of last night's meat and mustard, chicken & mayo, or PB&J. Homemade cookies and/or a piece of cake or maybe an apple or orange.

     

    Breakfast was cereal - cold in summer hot in winter - swimming in whole milk and heaps of sugar - and buttered toast. And milk from our own cows to drink. Lots of eggs (floating in butter) from our own hens.

    And always a multi-vitamin plus a fish oil capsule in winter.  

     

    Just about every meal had dessert. Ice cream for Sunday evening, otherwise, cookies, cake, pudding or pie - all homemade. Or shortcake with berries we picked, in summer. Stewed berries that had been frozen in the summer, on hot biscuits was a common winter fare. Even breakfast has its share of sweets in muffins or donuts.

    Snacks could include any dessert food or bread and butter with honey (wild), molasses or sugar.

     

    Besides the berries growing wild on our land, fruit was an apple or orange because they were the cheapest. Bananas when Dad could negotiate a boxful or over ripe ones. I'm not sure I knew they should be yellow and firm until I left home!

     

    Almost everything was homemade. I remember the derision and dire predictions that cake mixes met with when they were first becoming popular.

    Quantities were huge, except on store bought items which (except for bread) were rationed.

    PS - fish or game graced our table when Dad, and later my brothers, had any luck hunting or fishing. Even Mom brought in her share of venison during deer hunting season. But that was all pragmatic not sport.  

     

     

     


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    re: Fifties food
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 04:07 PM
    With those huge portions were people overweight? Or did all the exercise you got growing and hunting your food help to keep the weight down?
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    re: re: Fifties food
    farm girl
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 05:08 PM

    some were overweight but for the most part all the work of raising, canning freezing, cooking (not to mention hanging out, bringing in and ironing the laundry for a big family) meant we all had chores and lots of physical activity. As I recall, women tended to put on the weight more than the men. Maybe all the sampling - and the tendency to eat any left-over smidgen that was not quite enough to save for another meal.

     

    BTW: All that cooking, canning, freezing was done on a wood stove for which wood had to be chopped. (That and the parlor stove were how the house was heated in winter.) We had a hand cranked seperator and butter maker for getting cream, cottage cheese and butter out of milk. The washing machine was a wringer type and the rinsing done by hand in a big tin washtub. Real dirty stuff was scrubbed on a washboard - I think those are considered antique now. Irons were heated on the back of the stove and had a wood handle that went from one to the other as they cooled. Water was heated in quantitiy in a reservoir built into the back of the stove beyond the oven and on stove top in a teakettle. I guess even those stoves are antique today.

    Plowing the acre of garden was done with a horse until I was HS age.

    I often say I grew up about 200 years ago! You really got me going down mempry lane!


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    re: re: re: Fifties food
    Gretchen Becker
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 05:20 PM

    That's the way the former owners of my house lived. No bathroom: outhouse in barn. Two woodstoves. The kitchen stove had a water reservoir. No other hot water. Gravity-flow water from a spring that ran all the time so it wouldn't freeze. They shoveled the long hilly driveway by hand, using snow scoops.

     

    I still have the stoves (kept in case of long power outages; I put in a wood boiler in the basement) and the gravity-flow water, but I did treat myself to a bathroom and a gas hot water heater <G>. And a truck plows the drive.

     

    The husband and wife in that family were thin, but the daughter, who worked very hard on her own dairy farm, raised 4 kids, and had a huge garden from which she canned and froze, is overweight.

     

    So I think hard work alone won't keep overweight away. Maybe it's something in the environment. Some have suggested toxins from plastics. 


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    re: re: re: re: Fifties food
    farm girl
    Tuesday, January 29, 2008 at 05:45 PM

    Yup! Actually the house I was thinking of in the earlier posts did have electricity and plumbing with an indoor flush toilet. An earlier one had a pump in the kitchen and an outhouse just beyond the huge woodshed. A loooong cold trip (and sit) in winter though sheltered - to keep the snow off the wood. For night time in winter we had a 'guzunder' ('goes under' the bed or a chair to avoid tripping on it).  

     

    Shoveling of the long hilly drive and paths to out buildings was done by hand but mostly by Dad and brothers - though I saw my share.

    For our more modern house there were frames built all around it and filled with leaves or sawdust evey fall to keep pipes from freezing (only partially successful) along with leaving the tap furthest from the well running on the coldest nights. Even so there were many hairdryer along the pipes mornings.

     

    Interesting theory about environment. Both grandmothers developed diabetes. One was very heavy and the other thin.


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    re: re: re: re: re: Fifties food
    Gretchen Becker
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM

    So here are two women presumably with a similar lifestyle. One is thin and one is fat. They both get diabetes.

     

    This is a good illustration that the simplistic idea that it's just lifestyle that causes diabetes is just that: simplistic. 

     

    Farmgirl, your descriptions of old New England farm living are interesting to me, but I think they're getting off topic for this blog. Why don't you write to me personally:gretchen@sover.net. 


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  8. the golden age
    hat776
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 01:07 AM

    To be honest I don`t think I had even heard of wholegrains in the fifties.  We would regularly buy pies and dessert was practically never fruit but `pudding`.

    The only thing is that most people didn`t have a car so we walked much more than today.  Also TV was very limited so children spent their free time playing in the garden or in the road. 


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    re: the golden age
    deedee
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 12:06 PM

    I was a child in the early 60's, and I can tell you we never heard of wholegrains either!  We almost never had vegetables or fruit, or even meat.  We did however, have a glass of milk at each meal.  Otherwise, we ate:

     

    Breakfast was either Wonder bread toast, or Froot Loops type cereal.

     

    Lunch was Wonder Bread peanut butter sandwich, or sometimes even just a marshmallow-fluff sandwich.

     

    Dinner (which we called supper back then) was sometimes frozen waffles, Mrs. Grass Noodle soup, Spaghettios's, Kraft mac and cheese, or hot dogs.

     

    Desserts were frequent, being mostly jello or Sara Lee cake, and Tastykake(like Hostess snacks.).

     

    Always candy around, so we ate quite a bit of that every day.

     

    My mom didn't like to cook, so when she went to work, there was no difference in the meals.

     

    At the beginning of the 70's we had our first salad, of iceberg lettuce.  It was like an adventure!

     

    Anyhow, it's probably no surprise that we all had some pretty serious health problems, and I spent my whole childhood with severe constipation.

     

    It would have been great to eat like that article said--but the reality is, it just wasn't so!


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    re: the golden age
    Gretchen Becker
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 02:21 PM
    I'd never heard of the term "wholegrains" either, but of course rice is a whole grain. Yes, people did exercise more. We walked to school, walked home for lunch. After school we might have gone bike riding or roller skating.
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  9. THE GOLDEN AGE
    rosie bermudez
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 02:08 PM

    I am from that Golden age (age 51) and was diagnosed with diabetes at age 13. Thinking back, my doctor was a quack and it's also true, foods were not healthy then.  I have to add, I believe the STRESS in the lives of everyone today is MUCH greater than 50 years ago......

    what do you think Gretchen ...maybe added stress has increased the damage to our organs ?

    -rosie


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    re: THE GOLDEN AGE
    Gretchen Becker
    Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 02:25 PM

    Yes, stress can be important. I'm not sure that there's more stress today. Think of the Depression, when people weren't sure they'd be able to feed their children next week.

     

    And perhaps the 1950s meals of meat, potatoes, and vegetables were healthier than today's typical meals. 

     

    All we really know for sure is that there's more diabetes now than there was then. 


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    re: re: THE GOLDEN AGE
    Vicki M
    Wednesday, February 06, 2008 at 12:01 AM

    Hi Gretchen,

     

    I had the same thought as Whimsy2 below. Is it that there is definitely more of an instance of diabetes in the modern world as we know it? Or is it just that communications are faster and wider spread now than they ever were? Did people long ago die from complications of diabetes but they weren't considered casualties of diabetes because of a tired or incompedent physician who diagnosed to the best of his ability, albeit incorrect?

     

    Vicki M


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    whimsy2
    Monday, February 04, 2008 at 12:03 AM
    I wonder if there's just not more REPORTING of diabetes than before. 
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    re: Untitled Comment
    Gretchen Becker
    Monday, February 04, 2008 at 09:46 AM
    Unfortunately, there's more to it than that.
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